Has Pixar lost its touch?

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While I still haven't seen Brave, I was disappointed by its bad reviews. Wow, two movies below the quality we expect from Pixar in a row. While the average ratio of quality productions is still amazing I'm starting to get afraid that they may be catering to much to the lowest denominator and in a few years we may only get run of the mill commercial movies from them and not the pieces of art we were used since Toy Story.

What's your opinion? Did you like Brave? Have they lost their touch? Will the next movie be better?

I heard brave was freaking awesome. Besides, they're smart people, they'll know what to do.

3/4 of the reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are positive.

I don't see how this qualifies as "bad reviews." Okay, so it's not 90% or higher, but 74%[1] is still pretty good. 1% away from being "Certified Fresh," if that means anything to you.

[1] As of this post

Nah, their just in a small bad rut. Still, Brave is not as Bad as Cars 2; just as bad as Cars (Seriously, they both have 74% of Rotten Tomatoes.), and Cars isn't that terrible.

They've gone for a bit of a gamble with this one, and it's kinda paid off, kinda back fired.

All they wanted to do was move out of their comfort zone, to evolve as a creative entity. They probably had a dozen scripts that would have scored better on RT, but this allows them to learn and grow.

That's what me and my good friend decided anyway :)

Brave wasnt bad

and theye already made thier cars...putting out somthing that isnt 100% now and again is not cause for "OMG WHAT HAPPNED!?"

its just the curse of being that good

pilouuuu:
While I still haven't seen Brave, ?

bad reveiws? exagerating much?

I havent really liked them for awhile.
I didnt like up really and now theyre just dealing out sequels.
I didnt cry at toy story 3 like others apparently because everything in that movie was proposed in the first two.
Last greats were ratatouille and incredibles.

They have been sliding every since Disney bought them from Mr Apple.

Still, I'll probably watch it.

Brave was not bad. Brave was... underwhelming. I was expecting a bit more, I guess I'm saying. But I would never call Brave "bad".

I don't think that Pixar has lost it's touch, or anything to that effect. Two "not amazing, but still okay" movies in a row does not mean an entire studio has suddenly lost it's talent. Lest we forget, the two movies they put out BEFORE Cars 2 and Brave were Up and Toy Story 3, arguably two of their best movies to date.

Pixar's doing fine.

Most of the negative reviews I saw were along the lines of 'made by anyone else, I would consider this a good/pretty good movie, but under the pixar title I have to say I was wholly disappointed'
Or in other words 'I refuse to consider acceptable any pixar movie that doesn't pluck every one of my heartstrings like a magical bard of legend'

I liked it, and I don't think pixar is struggling or lost their touch.

Well, I think our expectations with Pixar are usually that every movie surpasses the previous one and is a masterpiece. While I don't think this means the studio lost its magic I am afraid that it may actually happen due to all the sequels and recent underwhelming movies.

The worst thing that could happen to Pixar is they becoming another animation studio which makes movies for kids which can't follow a plot with some pop culture references as a way of catering to adult audiences. i.e.: Dreamworks. I don't hate them btw, How to Train your Dragon showed they can do good movies, but Pixar always had the upper hand and I want them to keep it that way.

Movies like Up and Wall-E are even better than most non-animated movies! That's the Pixar I think we all love.

I always kept hearing 'an original story' on commercials when all I saw from it was the whole princess wanted to break societal norms like every Disney princess

Expectations are set high for Pixar. Of their 13 movies, 10 are considered great. Only 1 is considered bad. The remaining 2 are good. That's a 92 percent success rate. No other company can boast numbers like that.

I think Brave as a good cute Disney movie, but an average if a tad mediocre Pixar movie.

Does that make sense?

edit

I liked the movie.

Sure, it wasn't the fucking Lion King or anything, but it was still an entertaining work in its own right.

Then again, we do live in a day and age where instead of media being graded on a 1-10 scale, it's graded on a 7-10 scale.

hulksmashley:
Part of the problem is the Pixar is just too good. From anyone else this would be considered exceptional. And it was really good. But I think the problem was (By the way, this is a spoiler. A real one, for a major plot point in the movie. DO NOT click this unless you don't mind having the plot spoiled.)

I can agree with this.

I really liked it, and I'll call it a great film, but

Haven't seen it, so maybe it's just not that good - wouldn't know, but I do wonder: how many of those bad reviews come from, ummm... sources of a conservative inclination?

I saw brave and the only real problem it has is it's pacing is a a little off. it has a lot of build up to a major plot point but the build-up makes the point a little dull (pardon the pun). I'm not sure how they would've fixed this, but pixar isn't slipping. to echo others they're victims of their own success.

I plan to go see it next week. I have heard nothing but good things except that its abit predictable.

No they haven't. But this comes from someone that never really liked Pixar in the first place thus thinks that they never had the touch to begin with. I just never understood the near universal infatuation with animated movies with boring character design, obvious slap stick-comedy and on-the-nose writing with obnoxious moral lessons.

Just feel I need to add, I dont have a problem with the theme of Brave per se, I know almost nothing of the movie since I haven't enjoyed any other pixar-movie and thus don't plan on seeing it just as I dont plan on seeing any future pixar-movies. They are just not for me.

I heard Brave was good, just not epic level like Toy Story. They took a step back with Cars 2 and a step forward again with Brave. I'm not worried at all.

i'm going to see brave soon, I hope it good.

p.s We don't talk about cars 2, there was only one cars movie in book. That never happen.

I think part of the problem is how good their competitors have been in comparison. Pixar has always been the top of computer animated movies, but I can name 5 movies off the top of my head that are computer animated and I found to be just as enjoyable as any other Pixar movie.

Kekkonen1:
No they haven't. But this comes from someone that never really liked Pixar in the first place thus thinks that they never had the touch to begin with. I just never understood the near universal infatuation with animated movies with boring character design, obvious slap stick-comedy and on-the-nose writing with obnoxious moral lessons.

Just feel I need to add, I dont have a problem with the theme of Brave per se, I know almost nothing of the movie since I haven't enjoyed any other pixar-movie and thus don't plan on seeing it just as I dont plan on seeing any future pixar-movies. They are just not for me.

what happen to your childhood. what do you love

I dunno, I liked it. I thought the second half felt kind of rushed, like it should have been about a half an hour longer than it was. Other than the semi-rushed feeling it was still a good movie though. It had a clever sense of humour that kept it from feeling like a waste and the animation style and music particularly amazing. The characters were easily some of the best I've seen in awhile and I actually hope they make a Brave 2 just so I can see more of Merida's adventures which I can't remember feeling for many other characters in movie's lately.

Vault101:
Brave wasnt bad

Yeah, not bad... But honestly I thought it was pretty forgettable.

hulksmashley:

It was adequate. The characters were good and the humor was solid, but the conflict was rushed and undeveloped.

Not Pixar's finest hour, but miles from me losing faith from them. It's Monsters Inc Level, not Wall-E level, definitely not Cars 2 level.

They certainly still had that touch with Toy Story 3. Didn't watch Brave yet, if ever.

I haven't seen it yet, but I say if they want to spread out an experiment with conventional stories and try something different for a while let them.

Also look at their upcoming films after Monsters University:

The Good Dinosaur: A film about a world where dinosaurs never went extinct
"The Untitled Pixar Movie that Takes You Inside the Mind"
"The Untitled Pixar Movie About Día de los Muertos"

Not to mention that considering how long it takes to make these movies we're probably just now seeing to effects of something that happened a few years ago. Executive meddling? Lack of ideas? I have no idea!

Based on attendance numbers and revenue, I wouldn't say Pixar has lost their touch at all. I work at a movie theater and close to 2/3 of our total attendance this weekend has been for Brave. I think I read that it did $66 million this weekend (it may have been one of my coworkers that told me that so I won't hold it up as concrete fact) so that tells me at least the general public is enjoying it. We've had several families that I've talked to say they've already seen it twice.

It's on my "to see" list, but for now I've got Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter, Prometheus, and possibly Avengers again on that list as well.

well I didn't hate cars 1/2 but I would call them dreamworks quality (if that makes sense) I have heard that the first half of brave is great and the second half just turns into a "dreamworks" quality film.

Dryk:
I haven't seen it yet, but I say if they want to spread out an experiment with conventional stories and try something different for a while let them.

Also look at their upcoming films after Monsters University:

The Good Dinosaur: A film about a world where dinosaurs never went extinct
"The Untitled Pixar Movie that Takes You Inside the Mind"
"The Untitled Pixar Movie About Día de los Muertos"

Not to mention that considering how long it takes to make these movies we're probably just now seeing to effects of something that happened a few years ago. Executive meddling? Lack of ideas? I have no idea!

Those ideas seem brilliant indeed! But have you seen Monster's University trailer?

It's very meh for me... Maybe they didn't lose its touch. They just showed that they're not perfect and that it won't always be an amazingly epic movie.

Eh, they have a lot of lee way from me, since at the moment it's like 2:1 in favour of great to merely average.

Last time I've check it was mostly good and while Moviebob had some complain about it in his Intermission article he still say it's a good film.
I mean Car 2 was bad as it was more as a money pull franchise instead of being unquie setting/ theme with a lesson/ moral to it while still being funny and fun for both kid and adult to watch.

Dryk:
I haven't seen it yet, but I say if they want to spread out an experiment with conventional stories and try something different for a while let them.

Also look at their upcoming films after Monsters University:

The Good Dinosaur: A film about a world where dinosaurs never went extinct
"The Untitled Pixar Movie that Takes You Inside the Mind"
"The Untitled Pixar Movie About Día de los Muertos"

Not to mention that considering how long it takes to make these movies we're probably just now seeing to effects of something that happened a few years ago. Executive meddling? Lack of ideas? I have no idea!

Interesting last time I read about these future films, one of them was about a rare Newt who meet another female newt in order to mate to save their species (I think it was something to do with geniue loved or just to force to be in loved to save their species). Maybe the had scrap it since it sound abit similar to that film Rio.
Yeah I'm not too keen with Monster University as I feel it could had the same effect as Car 2. (Did they really intend to make it in the first place or give into fan demand for more Monster Inc?)

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