Do you believe in ghosts?
Yes
14.7% (61)
14.7% (61)
No
69.6% (288)
69.6% (288)
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Poll: Do you believe in ghosts?

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MaxiP62:
I want to believe in ghosts, sure. The thought of some supernatural presence excites me to be honest, it's something out of the ordinary and something that you just wouldn't expect to happen.

But yes, I do believe in them. Not the Scooby Doo style ghosts, but something that could communicate after death. Not sure what though.

Also; this might get mixed results but, are Ouiji boards serious or what?

Apparently. My secondary school had a policy against 'black magic'.

I shit you not.

But no, no I don't. I've always lived in old houses, I once sat on a highwayman's unmarked grave and nothing supernatural has ever happened to me. Combined with the scientific explanations for most of the things that are apparently ghosts, I'm more sceptical of it than I am of religion or deities.

BENZOOKA:
Hahaha. Hell fucking no. Even contemplating on the matter is ridiculous.

That is my stance.

Yep. But then... I believe in a lot of things that people delight in telling me don't exist. It doesn't bother me that people don't believe what I do, in fact, I couldn't care less, it just bothers me when people say I can't believe in these things or try and shoot them down with the 'because they just can't exist' argument. No backup. No nothing.

For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure I've seen one, but as much as that would have been pretty awesome, it could have been any number of things at the time.

Hazy992:

DoPo:
Just pointing stuff out. The ghosts exist in an indeterminate state - nothing really points toward their existence or non-existence. I think we can draw a conclusion from that, though - Schrodinger is not having a really fun time after his death.

Now you're getting into 'you can't prove a negative' territory. The logical stance is to not assume existence until there's evidence otherwise.

Hazy, your skills with the keyboard are only matched by your logical mind (and saiyan powers)

I believe it's possible. There's no concrete evidence either way. Everything I've ever seen saying they are real is shot to hell, usually due to the quality of the audio and video used as proof. All the evidence they don't exist doesn't make much sense either, usually the holes show up in the explanations used not really making much sense when applied to the phenomenon they try to explain.

So yeah. They're possible, and I love a good ghost story. If they are real and concete, irrefutable proof shows up, then I'll believe they exist. If concrete proof in the other direction shows up then I'll have no choice but to believe they do not.

I don't believe in ghosts, and I certainly HOPE my non-belief is correct, because ghosts are fuckin' SCARY.

Bang Kaboom Ferrell:

xshadowscreamx:
i want to believe, i dont want nothingness in death..its unfair and cruel

Reality is Unfair and cruel To me death is like a long sleep that you will never awakan from

Dont be so sure...when we decompose we become other forms of life so...yeah

Hazy992:

DoPo:
Just pointing stuff out. The ghosts exist in an indeterminate state - nothing really points toward their existence or non-existence. I think we can draw a conclusion from that, though - Schrodinger is not having a really fun time after his death.

Now you're getting into 'you can't prove a negative' territory. The logical stance is to not assume existence until there's evidence otherwise.

Ninja-tastic.

I do believe in them, but i don't believe everything spooky i see is paranormal. Usually there are logical explanations...however sometimes there is something i see and im like "wtf...how?!?!"

For example this...

Some people say the fence wasn't attached properly at the bottom, so when someone hits the fence, the fence would swing up allowing the car to go under it, and when he goes through, the fence goes back down. I don't believe that because the fence isn't shaking afterwards, and there is no guarantee the fence, after coming back down, will land in the same position as it was before, like it's not slanted or anything. there are other explanations, but non of them really make sense.

Like apparently there is a hole to the left, which there isn't, it's just the light from the car headlights don't light that area up, if there was a hole the cop car would go through it.

Even if you don't believe in paranormal stuff, i can guarantee something unexplainable has happened in everyone's lives.

I do believe in them, but I have yet to see one..

The question whether ghosts exist is pretty much comparable to the mind-shatteringly important question of whether that guy in that border village in Kenya is a jerk or not. It might be, it might be not, but I'm pretty sure it's never had any noticeable impact on my life.

Simple answer: No.

Longer answer: No, because there's no evidence of anything supernatural. That, plus, as someone already pointed out, sound at certain frequencies can both cause discomfort in humans and can also hit the resonance frequency of a human's eyeball, causing them to see things out of the corner of their eyes that aren't actually there.

Yeah, but I'm not sure why. I guess I've seen some weird stuff before and there's lots of video footage, and whilst they could all be explained some other way - by hallucinations, mistaken identity etc - it's highly probable we still don't know enough about the world to have discovered some weird phenomenon that causes stuff like that. Don't really believe that they're conscious spirits deliberately haunting the living though.

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Taking the supernatural explanations as even plausible without copious amounts of proof is frankly stupid.

It's weird, I felt like I had one pass right through me once yet I still don't believe.

Nope. There are freaky things that happen that not even experts can explain, but they are nothing supernatural, let alone souls of the dead. Further investigation will explain it I'm sure. That said almost all of the reports of ghosts already have a logical natural explanation.

No, but it still creeps me out when a door slams or pipes rattle when I am the only one in the house, usually because I forgot I had a window open.

MaxiP62:

Also; this might get mixed results but, are Ouiji boards serious or what?

Probably not, it was just a board game, the contacting the dead stuff just got added later.

Same goes for Tarot cards, originally were just playing cards until the eighteenth century when people stated to attach the occult to them.

DoPo:

Hazy992:

DoPo:
But think about it - there is nothing to disprove ghosts. What if hallucinations are actually caused by ghosts and all that?

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Is that a joke or...?

Just pointing stuff out. The ghosts exist in an indeterminate state - nothing really points toward their existence or non-existence. I think we can draw a conclusion from that, though - Schrodinger is not having a really fun time after his death.

There is also nothing to disprove that I have a pet unicorn with a jetpack, but it doesn't mean I do have one. You can't prove a negative, it would be wise to remember that.

Hazy992:

Eclpsedragon:
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Did you say Weegee board? O_o

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Damn Hazy, you beat me to it!

Da Orky Man:

DoPo:

Hazy992:

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Is that a joke or...?

Just pointing stuff out. The ghosts exist in an indeterminate state - nothing really points toward their existence or non-existence. I think we can draw a conclusion from that, though - Schrodinger is not having a really fun time after his death.

There is also nothing to disprove that I have a pet unicorn with a jetpack, but it doesn't mean I do have one. You can't prove a negative, it would be wise to remember that.

Seriously, what the hell people? When I say you haven't disproved them, I mean just that, you haven't disproved them. You know what's wise - not everything is a binary issue. So stop trying to make me think stuff I don't want to. Ghosts are not disproved =/= they exist.

For the record, I'll just state again something I've said before: I believe in things that can be proven, directly or indirectly. That which cannot be proven should not be accepted or rejected as truth. Blind faith is the root of ignorance and stupidity.

That's wisdom right there. Remember it.

I don't know why everyone is so focused on having evidence. The fact that they make no sense whatsoever should be enough reason not to believe.

I think you can easily see that ghosts are a manmade concept by the fact that nobody ever reports a cow ghost, or a dinosaur ghost, or a whale ghost etc etc. Believing in ghosts assumes that we are something supernatural in ourselves in this world to have evolved some sort of spirit that other creatures don't have.

Sure don't.
I find people jump to the `it's ghosts!` thing far too much in my experience.
Of course, I like ghost stories for a bit of fun, though.

Saulkar:
I am on the fence about ghosts but there was something that happened between my brother and I that is rather creepy. Me and my brother went to bed after sneaking around the local graveyard after hours and then the weirdness ensued. I woke up to find an almost spectral like figure hovering over my brother, a white cloaked grim reaper if you will. Given my affinity to such oddities, even at eight I was not in the least afraid. Moments later I woke up with my brother sreaming his lungs out. After my grandparents calmed him down he vividly described the exact same figure hovering over top of him in his own dream.

So what was it? Muttering in our sleep subconsciously acknowledged, a coincidence, some sort of electromagnetic transfer between our two brains, a real ghost. ;-) Hell if I know but it is not something I lose sleep over nor consider evidence of anything remarkable. Just a childhood oddity.

I would suggest sleep parlyisis, but for two people to be affected at once I imagine is rare.
symptoms probably don't match up either

There is no evidence to suggest ghosts exist.

DoPo:

Da Orky Man:

DoPo:

Just pointing stuff out. The ghosts exist in an indeterminate state - nothing really points toward their existence or non-existence. I think we can draw a conclusion from that, though - Schrodinger is not having a really fun time after his death.

There is also nothing to disprove that I have a pet unicorn with a jetpack, but it doesn't mean I do have one. You can't prove a negative, it would be wise to remember that.

Seriously, what the hell people? When I say you haven't disproved them, I mean just that, you haven't disproved them. You know what's wise - not everything is a binary issue. So stop trying to make me think stuff I don't want to. Ghosts are not disproved =/= they exist.

For the record, I'll just state again something I've said before: I believe in things that can be proven, directly or indirectly. That which cannot be proven should not be accepted or rejected as truth. Blind faith is the root of ignorance and stupidity.

That's wisdom right there. Remember it.

So...you don't reject anything at all, then.

The same things you say for ghosts could be said for Santa, unicorns (with jetpacks), fairies that hold water molecules together, aliens that steal your food at night, replicate it, and put the copies back right before you wake up every morning, or anything else.

All of these should not be rejected, according to you, because to disclaim these all as childish (so long as they are without evidence) would be equivalent to "blind faith." According to your very words.

No one here is claiming that ghosts absolutely cannot exist, only that, since we lack any evidence (like with unicorns), it would be foolish to claim that they do exist.

kortin:
Sure, why not. I don't believe in Heaven, so unless we do just fade out of existence after death, I find the thought of ghosthood slightly...relaxing. Better than some place where everything is supposed to be good and happy. That would get boring real quick-like.

relaxing ey ...

think about how many people died, how they died, old people, murder victims, childbirth deaths

hf sleeping

100% ruling out anything seems quite dumb really. I don't thing there is a god, but there might be. Same with ghosts, I really really doubt it, so I voted no, but there could be. You can never be 100% completely sure of anything. If ghosts were proven even then I wouldn't 100% believe. We could be in the matrix right now, and if it turns out there are ghosts it could be bored people in the real world playing tricks on us o.O

chadachada123:
fairies that hold water molecules together

I'm not much into chemistry, but I thought these were disproved.

Anyway, yes - I would like more proof before I accept or reject something. I'm not outright dismissing things because they are "childish" but they do exist in an undefined status until then.

chadachada123:
No one here is claiming that ghosts absolutely cannot exist

And yet, there were people that assumed that I was saying they do and they were not OK with that at all. That's real logical thinking there "Well, I'm waiting for sufficient proof for the existence of ghosts but I'll also dismiss any [imagined] claims that they do without a second thought." Sounds fair and scientific. Not.

I believe in ghosts.. i believe that there has to be some form of afterlife.. but as much as i believe in them id still be scared absolutely stiff if i saw one.. doesnt stop me from wanting to go on a ghost tour once in my life though.

DoPo:

Eclpsedragon:
Self correction: Weegie, or Ouija

It is indeed supposed to be Ouija. But I think I like Weegee better.

Hazy992:
No. There's no real evidence to suggest they exist and unless the day comes where there is evidence, I won't believe in them.

But think about it - there is nothing to disprove ghosts. What if hallucinations are actually caused by ghosts and all that?

A hypothesis being untestable is NOT a testament to its strength, it is a testament to its weakness.

If there is no way to disprove or prove a hypothesis, then there is no way it can be used to make any predictions about what would happen if you did something about it.

Put another way...
many people (I call them ID-iots) believe the Theory of Evolution is either bunk or that Creationism is on equal footing with it. These people are WRONG.

Yes, Creationism has technically been around longer than the theory of evolution, but, it has only been repeatedly asserted in that time, never proven. It also hasn't been disproven... but then... how does one go about disproving/proving the existence of a being that is supposed to be 'outside of nature', and therefore undetectable by any of our methods?

Evolution on the other hand, has been thoroughly contested both by the scientific community and... some other people for 200+ years, and it is still held up as our best explanation for the diversity of life on Earth. And what would disprove it? Just one fossil in the wrong place. All it would take is to find say, a modern bunny rabbit's fossil in the Pre-Cambrean soil. No such anachronistic fossils have been found.

ON topic: No, I don't believe in ghosts. No real evidence to even suggest that they exist. Just people's imaginations getting ahead of them at best, and people going stark-raving buggo at worst.

Also, fuck those people who claim they can hold a conversation with someone's dead relatives, they are nothing more than charlatans taking advantage of someone else's grief for a buck. These people should be sued out of business at every opportunity.

TheDoctor455:

DoPo:

Eclpsedragon:
Self correction: Weegie, or Ouija

It is indeed supposed to be Ouija. But I think I like Weegee better.

Hazy992:
No. There's no real evidence to suggest they exist and unless the day comes where there is evidence, I won't believe in them.

But think about it - there is nothing to disprove ghosts. What if hallucinations are actually caused by ghosts and all that?

A hypothesis being untestable is NOT a testament to its strength, it is a testament to its weakness.

If there is no way to disprove or prove a hypothesis, then there is no way it can be used to make any predictions about what would happen if you did something about it.

Put another way...
many people (I call them ID-iots) believe the Theory of Evolution is either bunk or that Creationism is on equal footing with it. These people are WRONG.

Yes, Creationism has technically been around longer than the theory of evolution, but, it has only been repeatedly asserted in that time, never proven. It also hasn't been disproven... but then... how does one go about disproving/proving the existence of a being that is supposed to be 'outside of nature', and therefore undetectable by any of our methods?

Evolution on the other hand, has been thoroughly contested both by the scientific community and... some other people for 200+ years, and it is still held up as our best explanation for the diversity of life on Earth. And what would disprove it? Just one fossil in the wrong place. All it would take is to find say, a modern bunny rabbit's fossil in the Pre-Cambrean soil. No such anachronistic fossils have been found.

I'm debating whether to start calling anyone who doesn't have a clue what I'm talking about, an idiot and leave it at that. I won't for now, though. However, you did write five paragraphs that were besides the point. Which is...applaudable in some ways, I guess.

Midgeamoo:
I think you can easily see that ghosts are a manmade concept by the fact that nobody ever reports a cow ghost, or a dinosaur ghost, or a whale ghost etc etc. Believing in ghosts assumes that we are something supernatural in ourselves in this world to have evolved some sort of spirit that other creatures don't have.

Pretty sure people have reported animal ghosts before. I'm not saying that I believe them just that it has happened.

The most evil pervasive feeling I have ever felt was at an old concentration camp on the french border. That's the only thing that nudges my scepticism a bit. It was pretty oppressive.

I certainly don't believe in ghosts but I don't know what the hell that was either.

Chairman Miaow:

Hazy992:

Eclpsedragon:
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Did you say Weegee board? O_o

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Damn Hazy, you beat me to it!

Hey man, a Bro's gotta Bro! :D

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