What Do You Refuse to Accept as Fact?

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Ledan:
I'm also a bit iffy about some high level physics stuff. That it's impossible to go faster than light and that you can slow down time (relatively). Mostly because we've said that a lot of things are impossible that we are doing today, and time is a human concept.

I agree, although its not fact, just theory/hypothesis/Hypothotheory

I can't accept that people believe in the Moon Landing was faked. With all the evidence presented they still believe that we did it in Utah. Also JFK assassination conspiracies. The issue is that people take small things, like the flag on the moon out of context and using them as the basis of a fake conspiracy. Also time is relative..

That there is a flat earth society, that advocate that the earth is flat.......WTH!

I refuse to believe that MacDonald's is a more popular chain of fast food than Burger King. The first time I took a bite from my XL double bacon cheeseburger from Burger King, I realised how nothing I had ever had in a MacDonald's could hold a candle towards it, and have always proffered to eat at the kings since.

mayney93:

Colour-Scientist:

I don't know why people are allowed get away with saying this kind of shit. I wonder what the reaction would be like if I went around telling people that I think white people are smarter than black people.

I refuse to believe that we have to believe every race is on an equal footing, i believe they are all pre-disposed to be better at certain fields, not saying blacks are less intelligent per say just saying that the stats show us the average, average here as well, not every one, the averages show that asians are the smartest race, and that black people are at the other end of the spectrum, jus' saying.

That's probably just cultural. I doubt any major differences in evolution would still be present, not now, or at least not in any noticeable capacity. Asian countries have harsher schools. You can see the same thing in europe, where france often has better results than other close european countries, because its schools are tougher.

GeneralTwinkle:

mayney93:

Colour-Scientist:

I don't know why people are allowed get away with saying this kind of shit. I wonder what the reaction would be like if I went around telling people that I think white people are smarter than black people.

I refuse to believe that we have to believe every race is on an equal footing, i believe they are all pre-disposed to be better at certain fields, not saying blacks are less intelligent per say just saying that the stats show us the average, average here as well, not every one, the averages show that asians are the smartest race, and that black people are at the other end of the spectrum, jus' saying.

That's probably just cultural. I doubt any major differences in evolution would still be present, not now, or at least not in any noticeable capacity. Asian countries have harsher schools. You can see the same thing in europe, where france often has better results than other close european countries, because its schools are tougher.

IQ studdies based on races have been debunked a while ago. They are eater very "selective" in there data set or just flat out ask question that no one outside of US/Europe/Asia have no interest in or no way of knowing.

this is probably relevant too

OT: that .9999 repeating is equal to 1

1/3=.33333
2/3=.66666

1/3+2/3=1
.33333+.66666=.99999

Nyaliva:
To those talking about going faster than the speed of light (I can't be bothered collecting the quotes): I saw something on the History Channel a while ago talking about this and they hypothesised that if we could bend the fabric of space time down in front of a ship and up behind the ship then it would effectively cause the ship to fall down the fabric of space time and because of the warping, the distance covered over the time elapsed could surpass the speed of light. I know it sounds outlandish but it's an idea right?

It's called an Alcubierre warp drive. While it does in theory allow for a bubble of spacetime to move faster than light, in practice it is impossible.

The main problem is that such a drive would require exotic matter with a negative energy density, and the amount needed would have more mass than the entire universe. Matter with negative mass also travels faster than light, and is prohibited from travelling slower than it. It also travels backwards in time.

There are other problems with an Alcubierre drive, such as the fact that you can't create such a bubble where none exists, you can't steer it, and you can't turn it off. Hawking radiation created at the boundaries of the bubble would also destroy any object placed within it if the bubble moves at FTL speeds. The bubble itself might also collapse from the effect of this radiation.

As an aside, the Alcubierre warp drive functions in the same manner as the Normandy's Tantalus drive from Mass Effect.

Ledan:

cotss2012:

Ledan:
Earth doesn't have most of the iron in the universe.

Ledan:
we haven't done enough field testing, such as iron mainly being here on earth

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I feel like you are quote-mining.... What I'm trying to say is: There is a theory that most iron in the universe exists here on earth, more than 80%. We haven't field tested this. So I don't accept it as fact yet.

Or are you telling me we have explored the universe already? And I missed those news?

What the absolute hell are you on about? No reputable modern scientist has ever claimed that the majority of iron resides on Earth. Iron is formed from nuclear reactions in super-giant stars, it can be found throughout the universe. It is estimated to be the 6th most abundant element in the universe by mass, as it happens.

Lilani:
I refuse to believe Walt Disney was an anti-Semite. There is just no evidence of it at all. He used no characters or stereotypes that other animators and entertainers weren't using at the time. As far as I've been able to discover, the very first charge of this came from the Simpsons. It just amazes me how much people take it seriously now.

Except that he lived in a period of strong anti-semitism (making it unusual if he WASN'T) one, and made his thoughts of the jewish people known, not through his work, but through his personal life.
Now, what is true is that he didn't outright hate the jews, he wasn't a Nazi or anything, despite what white supremacists like to claim.

Vault101:
if somthing is generally accepted as "fact" as backed up by evidence then Id have a hard time rejecting it, I dont think many people rejected what is considerd "fact"

let me introduce you to a little thing called AIDS denial

lacktheknack:
I simply refuse to believe that "My Immortal" is not a troll fic. NO ONE misspells "Azkaban" as "Azerbaijan". NO ONE.

Except Microsoft Spellcheck...

platinawolf:
I refuse to believe that we have proof of that we arn't just a dream/computersimulation, as we don't have any proof whatsoever that our reality is "real" that isn't based on other evidence that is based on a set of rules we have created to understand the world we live in.

We don't have proof, who said we did?

Scrustle:
The Anakin Skywalker we saw the prequel films cannot be the same person as Darth Vader in the original films. They just aren't the same person.

They aren't. Anakin Skywalker in the prequels was played (primarily) by Hayden Christensen. The actor portraying Vader was David Prowse.

dalek sec:

Also, I refuse to believe on any grounds that that piece of shit "50 Shades of Grey" is a best seller made from fucking fan-fiction. I know the lord has it in for me but that's just too harsh I think.

Except that the author has said she was writing fanfiction for twilight, then changed it to make the novel. Fanfiction is usually bad writing, but it's still writing, and people like reading porn novels. The trashiness contributes to its success. Besides, fanfic has been profitable before, like the guy who stole control of a book series from its author because people liked his fanfics (incidentally, that is why Ann Rice doesn't allow fanfic of her works), as well as essentially every modern use of Sherlock Homes as a character.

KINGBeerZ:
I'm stubborn as an old muel, so i refuse to accept that i am ever wrong. That's right, the sky's purple, chickens only eat cupcakes, and the taco is the only known natural predator of the great white shark.

"muel" is correctly spelled m-u-l-e.

TheHmm:
Why would i refuse to accept anything as fact?

I might doubt something being true, but i would never downright refuse to accept things as facts.

Because, if it is a fact, and i refused to believe it, that would by definition make me wrong.

However, there are several THEORIES i refuse to accept as facts.

Like the theory that black peoples absence in mensa is related to something else than them being dumber.

That's an incredibly racist thing to say. MENSA doesn't allow black people because they are scared of them

I refuse to believe that one apple is enough to prevent being accosted by wild doctors. One apple, two broccoli stalks, and five garlic cloves, maybe....

Ledan:

Redingold:

Ledan:

Risky? yes. But not impossible, and that's my point. People cite light-speed as an impenetrable barrier that cannot be penetrated. That no object can ever go faster than the speed of light. And I still think that's bull. Speed is just a force, and I don't think the universe has a cap on it.

OT:
Aliens don't need to be carbon-based lifeforms or need water. These can be replaced with other elements or a completely different type of chemistry to form life.
Earth doesn't have most of the iron in the universe.

The universe does have a cap on speed, and the reasons are difficult to explain unless you understand special relativity. Since you clearly do not, I advise you go away and try to understand it before trying to make erroneous claims about the nature of the universe.

Well, that's not what this thread is about. I don't believe it, and don't think I will even if I do study physics. My main argument would be that our models can't be perfect because we haven't done enough field testing, such as iron mainly being here on earth or carbon being needed for life. Furthermore, look back 50-60 years ago. Count how many things were considered "impossible". We are doing some today.
Perhaps we won't be able to use it for traveling, but I'm confident we can make something go faster than light.

So you don't know or understand the explanation of why it's impossible, but refuse to believe it's impossible anyway just because you want to?

I refuse to accept gravity as a fact.

It's a thing we share, I insult it and question it's existence...

...While it bides its time waiting for the next moment to screw me over.

This has resulted in some rather hilarious and painful incidents...

Seriously, fuck gravity. :/

8-Bit_Jack:

lacktheknack:
I simply refuse to believe that "My Immortal" is not a troll fic. NO ONE misspells "Azkaban" as "Azerbaijan". NO ONE.

Except Microsoft Spellcheck...

>implying the author of My Immortal used Spellcheck

Actually, any misspelling of "Azkaban" comes up with lots of words, but not Azerbaijan. Only the correct spelling of "Azkaban" comes up with Azerbaijan. And, if you read the fic, you'll understand why I doubt that was the issue.

That Chuck Norris is the strongest being in all of existence, because that'd be Bruce Lee.

direkiller:

GeneralTwinkle:

mayney93:

I refuse to believe that we have to believe every race is on an equal footing, i believe they are all pre-disposed to be better at certain fields, not saying blacks are less intelligent per say just saying that the stats show us the average, average here as well, not every one, the averages show that asians are the smartest race, and that black people are at the other end of the spectrum, jus' saying.

That's probably just cultural. I doubt any major differences in evolution would still be present, not now, or at least not in any noticeable capacity. Asian countries have harsher schools. You can see the same thing in europe, where france often has better results than other close european countries, because its schools are tougher.

IQ studdies based on races have been debunked a while ago. They are eater very "selective" in there data set or just flat out ask question that no one outside of US/Europe/Asia have no interest in or no way of knowing.

this is probably relevant too

OT: that .9999 repeating is equal to 1

1/3=.33333
2/3=.66666

1/3+2/3=1
.33333+.66666=.99999

Tis fractions sir.

one third, plus two thirds makes a whole.

Personally I choose not to believe in Spider-Man 3.

I refuse to believe the mods on this website are actually trying to make the forums better with all the warnings, suspensions, and bans.

SaneAmongInsane:

direkiller:

GeneralTwinkle:

That's probably just cultural. I doubt any major differences in evolution would still be present, not now, or at least not in any noticeable capacity. Asian countries have harsher schools. You can see the same thing in europe, where france often has better results than other close european countries, because its schools are tougher.

IQ studdies based on races have been debunked a while ago. They are eater very "selective" in there data set or just flat out ask question that no one outside of US/Europe/Asia have no interest in or no way of knowing.

this is probably relevant too

OT: that .9999 repeating is equal to 1

1/3=.33333
2/3=.66666

1/3+2/3=1
.33333+.66666=.99999

Tis fractions sir.

one third, plus two thirds makes a whole.

it also makes something less then one equal to one. See the problem?

tbh I just wanted to pick something people tend not to think about but know already, and just steer clear of the things dismissed or missunderstood by people far too often for my taste.

There is always this one:
statistically on games like deal or no deal when it comes down to your case and the one on stage your better off switching the cases.

Scrustle:
The Anakin Skywalker we saw the prequel films cannot be the same person as Darth Vader in the original films. They just aren't the same person.

This. So frakking much. In fact, I just refuse to accept anything that supposedly took place before 'A New Hope'. George Lucas lies.

I refuse to believe the tomato is a fruit. NO. WAY.

Kanatatsu:
I refuse to believe the mods on this website are actually trying to make the forums better with all the warnings, suspensions, and bans.

As a result, we actually have discussions rather than the poo in the monkey cage you get on 4chan or God help you Yahoo Comments. Though bans for low content do seem a little harsh.

OT: I refuse to believe our genes create the disposition to be gay or not. The idea you can fix homosexuality like you can fix Down Syndrome sickens me.

Shadowsetzer:

Scrustle:
The Anakin Skywalker we saw the prequel films cannot be the same person as Darth Vader in the original films. They just aren't the same person.

This. So frakking much. In fact, I just refuse to accept anything that supposedly took place before 'A New Hope'. George Lucas lies.

It's not just that I don't like the Anakin character from the prequels (fucking whiny prick), it's that his character is so different from that of Darth Vader. No-one who has the personality of Darth Vader would have been like Anakin was. It's impossible that they are the same person. I can't connect the two as the same person.

I refuse no facts, as they are facts. Everything that can be proven or is proven is okay with me.

lacktheknack:

Jason Fayers:
That it's impossible to go faster than light, people always say it's impossible to do things then it gets done.

Read the big argument we've been having.

Modern observation implies that we can't travel faster than (or even close to) light speed any more than we can turn a whale into a horse.

No need, you can't say anything to prove that it is impossible. Impossible with our technological capacity, and according to our understanding of the universe, yes. However, none of that proves it is impossible to ever achieve. Only that we think it can't because it doesn't fit into our model of the universe.

I refuse to believe that humans don't all have the same, almost unlimited, potential.

Eddie the head:
I refuse to accept that people think EA is the worst company in America.

Then you're in luck. The only reason that EA won that contest over the likes of Bank of America and others is that they were all disqualified because they won in previous years.

It's more of case of everyone looking at the list of candidates, picking EA, and going "Why the fuck not?".

Sonic Doctor:

Saviordd1:
I refuse to believe people actually want to elect Romney
I mean...the guys an IDIOT.

I refuse to accept that anybody believes that Obama is good for anything and has any good policies or ideas.

I also refuse that somebody thought it was a good idea to give Obama a Nobel Peace Prize. They gave it to him for doing what? Nothing obviously.

I don't like Romney all that much(wanted Mike Huckabee, instead of McCain in 2008), but anything right now is better than Mr.Sell-Out and Watch the Country Burn.

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To take this somewhere else:

I refuse to believe that there are people that don't like the taste of chocolate. The are so many kinds an flavor styles, you have to like one of them.

I refuse to believe that we effect global warming enough for it to be our fault and that we in some way can stop it.

In relation, I refuse to believe there are people that don't believe that turning coal into synthetic oil and then into gas is a good idea and a viable option to incredibly lower gas prices in the US. It would work this time since OPEC has no real control over the oil market anymore and can't lower the price of oil to compete with our synthetic oil like they did in the 70's. In a few years we could have synthetic oil that costs half as much a barrel as a regular oil barrel costs now. Gas prices would be slashed in half or go down even further. But of course, coal has been made a demon in the world of energy options, so we've passed up a totally viable option to make prices reasonable, while we take a few more decades to create renewable clean energy options that actually run at the same standards as gas fueled cars now.

I don't particularly like either Obama nor Romney, however I see Obama as lesser of two evils sorta thing. So its either vote for him or Ralph Nader (Who we all know WILL be running cause apparently he has nothing better to do)

I refuse to believe that 50 shades of gray is anything other than reading porn.

RamirezDoEverything:
I refuse to believe that long distance running is bad for you.

Plenty of studies say it's hard on your joints/organs in the 'long run'

When the shit hits the fan and society crumbles, your fat scientist asses won't be able to keep up with me..

We won't need to run from our self sufficient science powered bunkers. Try getting post nuclear war porn without electricity.

Edit: Double post. Also original user was being obstinate so my words would have fallen on deaf ears.

I refuse to believe that people play Call of Duty for fun, EVERY time someone in my xbox party is playing it all i can hear is them screaming at the tv about how they hate the game

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Sarah E:
I refuse to believe the tomato is a fruit. NO. WAY.

Oh, but it is.

Definition of fruit:
1: the usually edible reproductive body of a seed plant; especially : one having a sweet pulp associated with the seed <the fruit of the tree>
2: a product of fertilization in a plant with its modified envelopes or appendages; specifically : the ripened ovary of a seed plant and its contents.

The first definition is the commonly used one. The second is the botanical one (albeit simplified). Going by this definition, the tomato is indeed a fruit. In fact, if you want to get really nitpicky, the tomato can technically be classified as a berry.

Things that are also fruits: nuts, grains, bean pods and corn kernels.

"I refuse to accept that all of you aren't just a figment of my imagination."

Well, then, thank you, Mrs. Callabash, where ever you are.

I refuse to accept that 'trickle down' economics is working.

Or at least, I refuse to accept the part we're told, that it's working for anyone except those at the top.

Part of me refuses to accept that the Olympics opening ceremony was actually good, I so wanted to grumpily sit their being all cynical and ripping the piss out of it, yet somehow it worked. (I realise YMMV)

I put it down to giving the money to a visionary film director, instead of a board of fucknut marketing cuntwaffles.

As someone on Twitter said, he blew 27 million quid and it was watched by 27 million brits, I'd say he earned his pound off of me.

This is coming from someone who found the entirity of the Jubilee a watery, floating procession of pointless money squandering to celebrate an old woman in a funny metal hat.

Yet even she did her bit to make the opening of the Olympics a bit more interesting.

I refuse to accept that 'trickle down' economics is working.

Or at least, I refuse to accept the part we're told, that it's working for anyone except those at the top.

Part of me refuses to accept that the Olympics opening ceremony was actually good, I so wanted to grumpily sit their being all cynical and ripping the piss out of it, yet somehow it worked. (I realise YMMV)

I put it down to giving the money to a visionary film director, instead of a board of fucknut marketing cuntwaffles.

As someone on Twitter said, he blew 27 million quid and it was watched by 27 million brits, I'd say he earned his pound off of me.

This is coming from someone who found the entirity of the Jubilee a watery, floating procession of pointless money squandering to celebrate an old woman in a funny metal hat.

Yet even she did her bit to make the opening of the Olympics a bit more interesting.

I refuse to believe it's not butter....

bah-dum-tsch!

In all seriousness, i refuse to believe that people can actually enjoy the music crap they play at nighclubs. How do you even dance to it? It is insanely boring.

McMullen:

Ledan:

Redingold:

The universe does have a cap on speed, and the reasons are difficult to explain unless you understand special relativity. Since you clearly do not, I advise you go away and try to understand it before trying to make erroneous claims about the nature of the universe.

Well, that's not what this thread is about. I don't believe it, and don't think I will even if I do study physics. My main argument would be that our models can't be perfect because we haven't done enough field testing, such as iron mainly being here on earth or carbon being needed for life. Furthermore, look back 50-60 years ago. Count how many things were considered "impossible". We are doing some today.
Perhaps we won't be able to use it for traveling, but I'm confident we can make something go faster than light.

So you don't know or understand the explanation of why it's impossible, but refuse to believe it's impossible anyway just because you want to?

I'm looking at history and realizing that many things that have been declared impossible were overcome. We're making freaking atoms, albeit for only a few microseconds, but that used to be considered impossible. An atom was the smallest unit in the universe, no longer the case.

We haven't explored everything, so we shouldn't run around declaring things impossible. Light travels at the speed of light (duh moment for some), what about things beyond the spectrum we've explored? Things we can't see yet? Dark energy, antimatter, etc. Nothing is really impossible, unless you get into detailed specifics. (It's impossible for me to spontaneously turn into chocolate within the next ten seconds).

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