Stupid teachers.

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I had a science teacher in eighth grade who my mother described as "a burnt out roadie who took one too many LSD trips". He was wholly incompetent, and every time you tried to ask him a question or had a problem, there would be this pause where you could tell he was just trying to process this massively taxing request, and then all he could ever come up with was "Bummer dude". One time, a kid managed to use a glass stirring rod with so much unnecessary force that he stabbed through the bottom of the beaker and then THROUGH HIS HAND. The teacher didn't even look up from his guitar, because apparently he was in the zone or something, and another kid had to call 911. He had ZERO REPERCUSSIONS for this act of irresponsibility.

All my teachers were good, I was very fortunate. Especially in High School, some of them I even keep in contact with because we got along so well (Mr. Boecamp, Mrs. Porter, Mr. Jealous, Mr. Bixby- yeah I know my teachers names from the back of my mind haha) but there was one teacher.. .. one, but from a middle school.

I forgot her name, but she was not very nice. Even saying not nice is a generous gesture for she really wasn't nice. I'm one of those kids who will do everything, get along with everyone, and ensure that I respect the teacher to even socialize with them (which is why many from high school liked me). But, this teacher hated us. No, she actually hated every student and told us she hated us.

Whenever we made a mistake (like simply getting the wrong answer when called out), she'd smack her ruler very hard onto the desk and yell at the students, giving each of us 5-10 more problems to solve. She also would walk around and snap at people if they weren't working 'fast' enough (you know, math takes time to solve lol..) that and she would cut out our recess time if we didn't make her a 'happy camper'. Gosh darn it was so bad my parents had to pull me out of the school and when talking to the principle- he said a few others had to because of her. Wonder how she's doing but I have no grudges. Just surprised how someone could be a teacher but hate every student. It'd be like if you loved animals but worked at a slaughter house. Why would you do it?

Suki_:
I hate to break it to you but wikipedia is not a valid source of information. Its not just because the information could be wrong its that the information can be edited. Its also because it is neither a primary or secondary source.

Except you're entirely wrong.

Every time the article is edited, sufficient sources are needed. If they aren't provided, it is reverted.

Year 5 teacher. A couple of juicy examples of derp from her. She tore up my friend's work (that he thought was the best he'd ever done, and it probably was, it was really good) for not trying hard enough, in Year goddamn 5. She told me not to take the Lord's name in vain and gave me a detention, despite the fact I hadn't said something like "Suck God's cock", but instead had said "Oh my Lord." And then, we did a MEGA project (like a three-month homework) about a river in the world of our choice. I took it in, and someone graffitied on it (incredibly maturally, they put an extra 'o' in the River Po). She said it was probably me and gave me a week of detentions. My mum went in and had a shouting match. She got fired for being a bitch soon after. I love my mum :P

My grade 4 teacher's opinion of me roughly paraphrased...
What is this?! A boy who doesn't like sports and would prefer to read?! He must be autistic! Let's put him in "special" classes with the kids with SEVERE and debilitating mental disabilities. E.g. Vegetative state down's syndrome children.

She wasn't fired, but my parents had quite a bit to say to her, the principal, and the school board. The whole thing lasted about two days. I got transferred to a different school and we moved at the end of the school year.

kortin:

Suki_:
I hate to break it to you but wikipedia is not a valid source of information. Its not just because the information could be wrong its that the information can be edited. Its also because it is neither a primary or secondary source.

Except you're entirely wrong.

Every time the article is edited, sufficient sources are needed. If they aren't provided, it is reverted.

Wait what? First you tell me I am wrong and then proceed to tell me why I am right. You just admitted that the articles can be changed which is enough that they are not a reliable source. It doesnt matter if the information is actually right or not.

Cyfu:

NightHawk21:

Cyfu:

I live in Norway. We were on our way to a cabin called jødalshøtta. It was 5 hours each way...
The trip TO the cabin wasn't that bad. The trip from the cabin on the other hand. It was a blizzard. No joke, you could lean against the wind.

Wouldn't it still just be safer to sit in the bus with the heater on though?

What bus? xD
we was in a skiing trip and there were no roads leading to the cabin. I said I lived in Norway right?

You had to walk (or made cross-country ski?) to the cabin? Wow. Good on ya man :)

Edit: What the hell happened to the forums? Grr I hate change.

Suki_:

kortin:

Suki_:
I hate to break it to you but wikipedia is not a valid source of information. Its not just because the information could be wrong its that the information can be edited. Its also because it is neither a primary or secondary source.

Except you're entirely wrong.

Every time the article is edited, sufficient sources are needed. If they aren't provided, it is reverted.

Wait what? First you tell me I am wrong and then proceed to tell me why I am right. You just admitted that the articles can be changed which is enough that they are not a reliable source. It doesnt matter if the information is actually right or not.

You're telling me that because wikipedia is dynamic it's not valid? That makes no sense. If anything, ALL of the books and other static sources of information are completely invalid because they do not allow you to change it when new discoveries are made.

Edit: What the hell did they do to the forums. This forum setup is abominable.

On highschool I had rather charismatic math teach who was half communist and half wannabe italian. I used to but good at math but thanks to him Im now 4 years behind because he just presumed that we were all stupid and so he never bothered to teach us anything. Most of our lessons he spent minding his of math, smoking or complaining how terrible our country and west-inspired world is.

kortin:
You're telling me that because wikipedia is dynamic it's not valid? That makes no sense. If anything, ALL of the books and other static sources of information are completely invalid because they do not allow you to change it when new discoveries are made.

Edit: What the hell did they do to the forums. This forum setup is abominable.

All you are doing now is just proving your ignorance. Do you even understand what the point of referencing and quoting? Do you even know what the requirements are for something to be considered a reliable source?

Without a static source you could just make a bunch of shit up and it wouldnt be any less reliable.
Also wikipedia also lacks just about everything that is required for proper sourcing in addition to the other issues.

Can't complain. I have had some very good teachers over the years.
I have even had a Discrete Structures course from the person who introduced Computer Science to Pakistan in the first place and built the Pakistan Navy's first computerized systems in the 1970s and he was responsible for building the University and started with his own old books that he had used as a student in the US, he was the Director of the university till 2005 when FAST-NU was the top Computer Science university in the country and was well known in professional circles abroad. He wasn't too good at teaching at his old age but thanks to him I know Prolog which wasn't even in the course or supposed to be taught at all. Still, I don't exactly envy the people who had to learn C or C++ from him.

Shock and Awe:
I had a 9th grade Honors History teacher try to tell the class that Vietnam was the first war with helicopters. She was not happy when I called her crap where everyone heard it and got sent out.

That was a good day.

Well, I didn't know that, but then again, I'm not a history teacher.

*edit* (yes I did forget about the Korean War)

Reading most of these...most are horror stories, but a few I'm thinking ''nobody likes a smartass''. Teachers are charged with controlling a room of 30+ kids, changing (in the UK anyway) 5 or so times a day, including at least on average one in every group who just doesn't want to be in school or insists on being disruptive (exceptions for learning difficulties). I'd certainly come out not entirely invested in my job.

Suki_:

kortin:
You're telling me that because wikipedia is dynamic it's not valid? That makes no sense. If anything, ALL of the books and other static sources of information are completely invalid because they do not allow you to change it when new discoveries are made.

Edit: What the hell did they do to the forums. This forum setup is abominable.

All you are doing now is just proving your ignorance. Do you even understand what the point of referencing and quoting? Do you even know what the requirements are for something to be considered a reliable source?

Without a static source you could just make a bunch of shit up and it wouldnt be any less reliable.
Also wikipedia also lacks just about everything that is required for proper sourcing in addition to the other issues.

You're joking, right? A static source is no more reliable than a dynamic one. A static source is just as easily able to be unreliable.

Do you recall the whole "tongue mapping" stuff you learned when you were younger? They taught you from a book, i.e. a static source. Turns out the tongue map is entirely invalid. By your logic, that shouldn't be possible.

With wikipedia, however, things are able to be added as new discoveries are made. In order to correct static sources, you have to do a reprint, costing thousands of dollars and causing problems for people who aren't aware of the update. That's why it's perfectly valid.

Pretty much all great teachers, except for one Spanish teacher. Oh, she is a lovely person when not speaking Spanish, but according to some people she taught a college level course to a class of juniors. The difficulty would be okay, except you were not allowed to speak English, lest you want your grade to drop a point. I love ya, Mrs. Jones, but you are crazy.

Three come to mind:
First my Social Studies in grade 7 that would actually grade you on your projects based on artistic skill. No reason given why she did that. Also, she almost flunked my best friend on a test because there was a blank piece of paper with someone else's name on it. Lastly, she would give us notes during class and take them back at the end of class so nobody could ever prepare for any tests.

Second is my French teacher from the same year. She would spend half of the year talking about the school charity she was part of. It got to the point where she would actually have us work on projects for the charity instead of doing her job.

Lastly there's my Indonesian Studies teacher in grade 8 (at a different school mind you). The only reason the school still has him employed is because they can't find a replacement for him. He's an awful teacher who never teaches anything. Also, there were rumors that he watched porn at school, but I never particularly wanted to confirm that rumor, for obvious reasons...

kortin:

You're joking, right? A static source is no more reliable than a dynamic one. A static source is just as easily able to be unreliable.

Do you recall the whole "tongue mapping" stuff you learned when you were younger? They taught you from a book, i.e. a static source. Turns out the tongue map is entirely invalid. By your logic, that shouldn't be possible.

With wikipedia, however, things are able to be added as new discoveries are made. In order to correct static sources, you have to do a reprint, costing thousands of dollars and causing problems for people who aren't aware of the update. That's why it's perfectly valid.

Here I will try to explain this one last time in the most basic terms I can think of.

If you use a source that can change its useless. This is because if your source changes its information it invalidates your entire paper. That source might not support your paper anymore. What do you do if the quote you used got deleted from wikipedia? Oh right there is nothing you can do. You also do not know who the author of the article is which is another requirement for a valid source. Wikipedia is also not peer reviewed in the same way that other reliable sources are.

Once you get out into the real world the only thing that is allowed for sourcing is primary and secondary sources that have been peer reviewed. Wikipedia for obvious reasons does not fall into this category. The requirements for sourcing are much higher then everything else because of how important and easy it is.

Well, this will seem quite weak, but I had (or well, have) in year 7 a Finnish teacher (I live in Finland) who has quite a short temper. Like when we once changed the seating, I pointed out that we were all sitting on the opposite side of our real places, since one (pretty dim) bloke in the front had gone on the wrong side. I almost got thrown out of class.
Yes, we ended up sitting in wrong places.

Christ but there are some horror stories in here. Mine are tame by comparison, but I do have a big one from this past year, at the very end. No classes involved, as it was more of a general thing.

This story is fairly tame compared to what some of the people in this thread have experienced, but I feel like it's still quite significant, probably only because it happened to me and I tend towards narcissism. But regardless, it's still a story of some fairly stupid teachers and/or stupid policies added to the long list contained in this thread.

I had a grade 11 English teacher who had been removed from the Photography department because of a major theft the year before. I had to remind twice throughout the year that she gave me one mark on paper and entered a different mark into her computer for grading. The best moment though was at the end of the year when she was inputting our final marks. She didn't have a mark written down for our final project, a project I did not do, and wanted to know what the mark was. I said I couldn't remember and she said in front of the class and my friends who knew I hadn't done the project that she remembered my work and that it was pretty good so she would give me a B+. If I had any respect for that teacher left at that moment I would have lost it but it worked out in my favour.

Year 9 IT teacher.
There was one time where the printer was jammed, and he said it had a virus. I'm not even joking. He legitmately thought the printer had a virus.
He also thought that the internet was invented in 2006 because that must have been the first time he used it.

Suki_:

kortin:

You're joking, right? A static source is no more reliable than a dynamic one. A static source is just as easily able to be unreliable.

Do you recall the whole "tongue mapping" stuff you learned when you were younger? They taught you from a book, i.e. a static source. Turns out the tongue map is entirely invalid. By your logic, that shouldn't be possible.

With wikipedia, however, things are able to be added as new discoveries are made. In order to correct static sources, you have to do a reprint, costing thousands of dollars and causing problems for people who aren't aware of the update. That's why it's perfectly valid.

Here I will try to explain this one last time in the most basic terms I can think of.

If you use a source that can change its useless. This is because if your source changes its information it invalidates your entire paper. That source might not support your paper anymore. What do you do if the quote you used got deleted from wikipedia? Oh right there is nothing you can do. You also do not know who the author of the article is which is another requirement for a valid source. Wikipedia is also not peer reviewed in the same way that other reliable sources are.

Once you get out into the real world the only thing that is allowed for sourcing is primary and secondary sources that have been peer reviewed. Wikipedia for obvious reasons does not fall into this category. The requirements for sourcing are much higher then everything else because of how important and easy it is.

So how is it better to quote a source that is then changed than to quote a static source that has been proven wrong? I'm not saying Wikipedia is a good resource at all, but you seem to be saying that quoting from an outdated source is better, which to my mind is simply untrue.

The tongue mapping thing is a prime example of why your logic fails. Surely your paper being invalidated is better than an entire paper based on lies that no-one has bothered to change.

My graphic design teacher decided to be the ONLY teacher I had to actually take my predicted grades seriously. These predictions were made by exams I have done when I first entered the school and had NOTHING to do with drawing or any other skills relevant to the course,

Since my grade was predicted A*, he assumed I was very talented, when in actual fact I had no real talent in drawing and wasn't that creative. So for a good year I'm regularly getting detentions for handing in work that was below that standard.

The real kicker is the course was so easy I could have still gotten a B grade, but by the end of the year he hated me so much he entered me into foundation tier, essentially meaning my maximum grade would be a C.

James Joseph Emerald:

- Another classic was this legendarily insane woodworking teacher

I don't think you will find a sane woodworking teacher

Mine drove nails in with the palm of his hands.

my religion teacher tried to fail me. in religion. RELIGION. she said i didnt respect god and what she taught, yet i was practically teaching the class. she didnt even know what the four gospels were called. turns out she used to give 100%'s to everyone in her class the semester before i was in her class, and she got grilled for it by the other teachers. so she failed 20 out of 24 students to protect her job. i was the only one that said that she was full of shit, and i basically argued my way to a passing mark that i deserved in the first place.

Cyfu:
So in tenth grade we went on a skiing trip. Half way there we were divided into groups of 5 and they said "Ok, there is a storm coming and it will hit in 15 minutes. Make a snow cave big enough for everyone in your group."

So we started digging and when 15 minutes have passed they said that everyone had to get in. It wasn't any room for me so I just stood there and went "oh well.. no big deal"
Well, the teacher didn't agree. He came up to me and ordered me to get in. (I want to stress how little room there was. If I tried I would probably get half of my foot in.) I replied with "are you blind? there no room." I thought that would be enough. but no, he ordered me once again to get into the snow cave. His shouting had gotten the attention of the entire class by now and everyone was just staring at us. I refused but that didn't stop him from getting up in my face and ordering me again. Now I was sick of this asshole so I replied "Are you retarded? there's no room." You can probably guess what happened next. yep, he ordered me again. Now I was really getting sick of him so I said to him, I think I might have yelled because I was pretty angry at this point."Are you fucking stupid? Can't you see that there isn't any room? Are you fucking high?"
His response was to threatening to send me home. After that another teacher came over and stopped him.

so anyone else had a retarded teacher?

A SNOW cave?? Are you joking? That's a joke, right? I mean... really.
So yeah, for some reason all the "Health" (Sex ed) teachers are retarded in my district. Except one. I had to wait 6 years until 11th grade (which I just finished) to get her. But back to the stupid ones. One of them hated me for no good reason and was just terribly dumb to the point where she (I kid you not) got a penis and a vagina mixed up.

Also there was "Family and consumer science", taught by an old bat straight from the sexist ages. The whole idea was bullshit because why in the world do I need to know how to cook in school, when I could be doing better things and honestly, I can use a cookbook. Said teacher also treated us like kindergarten students when we were 6th graders.

I once had a maths teacher who burst into tears because i had the sheer audacity to politely call her out on two pretty simple mistakes she made in one lesson. Then I got a lecture in "repect in the classroom". So i was suppose to sit there and let her fill our heads with shit that was, well, wrong? When i pointed this out she asked if i wanted to teach the class instead, although was a little put out when i agreed, for some reason she backtracked, i wasnt allowed to teach the class, and we never spoke of it again.

Of course i want to make it clear that i have boundess respect for teachers and their 13 weeks paid holiday - which they need because their job is so much more stressful than everybody elses. On that last point, if holiday was awarded based on how stressful your job is shouldnt firemen only have to work 3 weeks a year? Just a thought.

Odinsson:

So how is it better to quote a source that is then changed than to quote a static source that has been proven wrong? I'm not saying Wikipedia is a good resource at all, but you seem to be saying that quoting from an outdated source is better, which to my mind is simply untrue.

The tongue mapping thing is a prime example of why your logic fails. Surely your paper being invalidated is better than an entire paper based on lies that no-one has bothered to change.

The static-but-wrong source is better because it allows the reader to check your sources. The bibliography you put at the end of your papers isn't to make them look professional, it's a resource for the people reading it.

If you quote an incorrect source, then the reader can follow your link, see that the listed source is full of crap, and come to the conclusion that the paper is likely full of wrong information and is worthless.

If, on the other hand, you reference the Wikipedia article on whatever you're writing about, and it's later edited, then the reader has no idea if your paper is based on actual information. For all they know, you could have just made something up. Maybe the quote you used was removed because it was wrong, who knows?

What it comes down to is that the person reading your paper needs to be able to see if you know what you're talking about. A source that can change does not accomplish this.

Supercereal:
I went to a Christian School for 13 years from K-12 (Australia) and had to deal with the fact of my first name being Dennis. So whenever i got a new teacher they would always without fault make the joke of "Dennis i bet your going to be a menace." It isn't so bad i guess but its my annoyance, the other has to do with my last name being Dick so i guess its a double whammy of "joke" names and again without fault but this would be for every day of the year as well as year, Is that any teacher reading down the roll call would get to my name after reading out everyone before me's first and last name pause for a moment and go Dennis ? and then continue with first and last names. My name would also get me into trouble with some teachers accusing the class of putting it in as a joke name and my 12th grade home room teacher even went so far as to say wow Dennis Dick your parents must have really wanted you to be laughed at.

On my 12th grade home room teacher as well. When we got our year 12 jersey we had the option of putting our last name on the back, Well everyone but me because it would be seen as rude to the people around me. But i fought for my right to have it claiming that i was being discriminated against by the school and they gave in to me or so i thought until i received my Jersey minus my name on the back. It turned out my teacher had forgot to put it on my form that i wanted my name on the back. So i being understanding went out and paid to have my last name placed on the back at my own expense and the next day at school during home room was called up by the same teacher and asked to remove my jersey because it now had Dick written on the back. Too which i flat out refused as it was still my name and there was nothing wrong with it seeing my side of things she gave me detention for refusing her. this kept going over the course of the week and even got my vice principle involved with him claiming i was disrespecting myself and my school by having such vulgar language on the back of my jersey. But still i refused to stop wearing it and launched into a rather heated fight with my vice principle over him claiming i was disrespecting myself for having pride in my name, i spent every day for 2 months in detention for wearing my jersey to school until my mother caught wind of what had been happening came in and verbally castrated the vice principle afterwards i was never hassled again about my jersey.

Wow that last bit is ridiculous I can't believe how disrespectful they were to you. I mean I get that Dick is a odd last name but just because it is odd doesn't mean you deserve to be disrespected that way.

Rabid Toilet:

Odinsson:

So how is it better to quote a source that is then changed than to quote a static source that has been proven wrong? I'm not saying Wikipedia is a good resource at all, but you seem to be saying that quoting from an outdated source is better, which to my mind is simply untrue.

The tongue mapping thing is a prime example of why your logic fails. Surely your paper being invalidated is better than an entire paper based on lies that no-one has bothered to change.

The static-but-wrong source is better because it allows the reader to check your sources. The bibliography you put at the end of your papers isn't to make them look professional, it's a resource for the people reading it.

If you quote an incorrect source, then the reader can follow your link, see that the listed source is full of crap, and come to the conclusion that the paper is likely full of wrong information and is worthless.

If, on the other hand, you reference the Wikipedia article on whatever you're writing about, and it's later edited, then the reader has no idea if your paper is based on actual information. For all they know, you could have just made something up. Maybe the quote you used was removed because it was wrong, who knows?

What it comes down to is that the person reading your paper needs to be able to see if you know what you're talking about. A source that can change does not accomplish this.

Well put. I can definitely see your point, and hadn't really thought about it like that.

On the topic of the thread, I had a teacher in 3rd grade that yelled at me because she didn't think 'undulate' was a word.

I also had an Ancient History teacher in my last year of school who was very nice, but she never disciplined anyone. So at one point we had a near full-on fistfight in the classroom and she did nothing. Neither of the parties involved were reprimanded in any way. She was also really bad at explaining things. Someone would ask what she meant, and she'd just repeat what she said instead of elaborating. The week before our final exam, my best friend called me to ask for help with studying. I went over the entire semester's work in half an hour, and he still credits me with enabling him to pass that exam.

aba1:

Wow that last bit is ridiculous I can't believe how disrespectful they were to you. I mean I get that Dick is a odd last name but just because it is odd doesn't mean you deserve to be disrespected that way.

Yeah alot of my friends rallied behind me about it as well but the Vice Principle just refused to see it any other way.

I also remembered another one in year 6 if we were found to have any incorrect homework at all we were forced into a lunch detention until we got the question correct. So basically you had to get 100% on your homework or you would be punished. Luckily it was only for one year that i had to put up with that brain aneurism inducing system but it just seemed stupid to me.

TheLizardKing:
Year 9 IT teacher.
There was one time where the printer was jammed, and he said it had a virus. I'm not even joking. He legitmately thought the printer had a virus.
He also thougt that the internet was invented in 2006 because that must have been the first time he used it.

hahaha I had a similar incident where I came across a computer with a note on it saying it doesn't work in the computer lab so I proceeded to PLUG IT IN turned it on and it was all good.

When I was in Kindergarten (yes Kindergarten) I had the worst teacher I can remember. I couldn't read very well and every time she asked some to read she would pick me. The kids laughed at me. I stopped reading and sat down. She looked at me and said "You are stupid. I didn't tell you to stop reading." She told me continuously how dumb I was.

A few years later, I was diagnosed with Dyslexia.

That was the worst teacher I ever had.

Off topic for a sec, how many people here are these. A. In high school. B. Not in collage but graduates prepping for collage. Or C. In Collage?

All I'm seeing is a bunch of teenagers complaining about their experiences in high school or their schooling as a child thus far. And yes, I'm in category B.
OT: I've had Bitchy teachers, and a few rather callous ones, but retarded? Not really. High school most of my teachers were either smart, very cynical and wise about the world, not the best people to be dealing with obnoxious or rude kids(it was a special needs school, sue me, public schools suck) or simply so tough on you they probably chewed bricks for fun.

Supercereal:

aba1:

Wow that last bit is ridiculous I can't believe how disrespectful they were to you. I mean I get that Dick is a odd last name but just because it is odd doesn't mean you deserve to be disrespected that way.

Yeah alot of my friends rallied behind me about it as well but the Vice Principle just refused to see it any other way.

I also remembered another one in year 6 if we were found to have any incorrect homework at all we were forced into a lunch detention until we got the question correct. So basically you had to get 100% on your homework or you would be punished. Luckily it was only for one year that i had to put up with that brain aneurism inducing system but it just seemed stupid to me.

Trust me I feel ya you should see my post on the third page it is fairly large and only a fraction of bs I had to deal with over the years.

'Record Stops.':
Off topic for a sec, how many people here are these. A. In high school. B. Not in collage but graduates prepping for collage. Or C. In Collage?

All I'm seeing is a bunch of teenagers complaining about their experiences in high school thus far. And yes, I'm in category B.
OT: I've had Bitchy teachers, and a few rather callous ones, but retarded? Not really. High school most of my teachers were either smart, very cynical and wise about the world, not the best people to be dealing with obnoxious or rude kids(it was a special needs school, sue me, public schools suck) or simply so tough on you they probably chewed bricks for fun.

I am in forth year college personally.

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