So my friends are racist...

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I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore...

I met two people in Team Fortress 2 almost two years ago and have chatted, played and done tons of stuff with them online since then.

They are both from Belgium (I am from Sweden).
Today I changed my profile picture to this

, since I thought it was a funny picture.

Then one of the two guys goes "AAAH, a nigger!" in chat, I think he is joking since we sometimes have called eachother things like "mah nigga" and shit.

After a while I cahgned my profile pic to another and he sends me this:

13:50 - Friend: did the nigga die?

13:50 - me (still thinks he is joking): yes

13:50 - Friend: is good xD

Now I am a bit confused, but figured it was just a joke in bad taste, I then go "Wait, what is this?" and change back to the old picture.

He then types "NOOOOOO" and when I ask him out and he cheerfully replies that he is "anti-nigga".

Now I am starting to get pissed, is he just joking in a really shitty way or his he serious?

I ask him out again and he says that

"there are to many black people in Belgium"
"all white people are racist here"
"all foreign people only steal"
"nothing usefull of foregin people"
[sic]^

I am all "wtf", and he tells me to ask friend number two.
Now Friend2 have always been a "little" (read waaay) more mature and smarter than friend1.

I tell him what firend1 and asked him, and well...

I am shocked

13:56 - me: you dont like black people either?

13:56 - friend2: yes i do

13:56 - me: friend1 dont and said you dont either

13:56 - friend2: you kiddin?

13:57 - friend2: they have epic bike shops

13:57 - friend2: everything so cheap

13:57 - me: hurr

13:57 - me: srsly tho

13:58 - me: well?

13:58 - friend2: every true belgian hates niggers

13:58 - me: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2n7hoaRdd1r3k1m8o1_500.png

friend2 is now Away.

Now I feel like shit, I have talked and played so much with these two people and now this?

What the fuck should I do?

Let them blow up with that nuke on Virmire.

mr. awesome:
What the fuck should I do?

Decide you don't give a fuck and keep talking to them because hey, whatever, or stop talking to them.

Your choices here are rather obvious and self explanatory. Brace yourself for loads of "omg dats like so terrible" answers though.

mr. awesome:
What the fuck should I do?

Become a racist to fit in. Peer pressure is critical, and you don't want these two (obviously very cool) dudes to think you're not fun enough to invite to the Sunday cookout/cross burning, do you?

Also, I am now going to be viewing my Belgian mate with slightly more suspicion. Thanks for the warning!

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Brace yourself for loads of "omg dats like so terrible" answers though.

Well, isn't it?

"Every true Belgian hates niggers" sounds pretty terrible to me, if that's what this dude truly believes...

Valuing them as a decent person is more important than valuing them as friends. Ditch them or never talk about it.

Do you talk to them real-time? Maybe record what they said about their black hating, post it somewhere (not here), rally up some guys to straighten them out by trolling and spamming. Meh, that's about the best thing you can do online in a situation like this.

Oh, that sucks.

I can sorta relate, people you think you know online all of a sudden proving they never were people you wanted to associate with.

But, what can you do but stop talking to them and do something else?

thaluikhain:
Oh, that sucks.

I can sorta relate, people you think you know online all of a sudden proving they never were people you wanted to associate with.

But, what can you do but stop talking to them and do something else?

I dunno, we have talked a lot with eachother almost every day for 2 years, so it feels a bit odd just removing them and doing something else... :/

mr. awesome:
I dunno, we have talked a lot with eachother almost every day for 2 years, so it feels a bit odd just removing them and doing something else... :/

Oh, sure, it'll feel odd.

But, well, the alternative would feel much worse.

SonicWaffle:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Brace yourself for loads of "omg dats like so terrible" answers though.

Well, isn't it?

"Every true Belgian hates niggers" sounds pretty terrible to me, if that's what this dude truly believes...

I dunno. Real public hate campaigns are terrible. Racial hate crime is terrible. Saying you don't like niggers in a Steam convo certainly isn't nice, but I don't think it qualifies as terrible either. Not in comparison to other stuff anyway.

Can relate.
Some people I may one day be related to are racist.

I can't change them, I've argued and rationalised with them but they will not change, I've accepted that. Nor can I stop associating with them. The way I get around it is (if it comes up) to say `You know we disagree and I'd rather you didn't talk like that in front of me- it will just cause an argument`.
It's not perfect, but it works for now.

But I would ask yourself if you want to continue your friendship with those people.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

SonicWaffle:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Brace yourself for loads of "omg dats like so terrible" answers though.

Well, isn't it?

"Every true Belgian hates niggers" sounds pretty terrible to me, if that's what this dude truly believes...

I dunno. Real public hate campaigns are terrible. Racial hate crime is terrible. Saying you don't like niggers in a Steam convo certainly isn't nice, but I don't think it qualifies as terrible either. Not in comparison to other stuff anyway.

Yes, but the implication that an entire nation is racist is pretty terrible, particularly if it's widespread. If this guy's opinions are actually representative of a significant proportion of young Belgians, that's very worrying.

Tell them you just realized they were Belgians and there are too many Belgians, and they only steal and are useless. Maybe they'll get the hint.

Or maybe I'm tired and you should just tell them you don't like racism and shun them. Shuuuuuuuuun.

Call them assholes.

Who cares?

I mean seriously. You're not going to get a meritorious white person award from Al Sharpton for burning bridges with people you otherwise enjoy talking to.

Believe it or not, racism isn't something limited to privileged young white males of the republican party in the southeastern section of the United States. I know how much of a shock that is for some people, but I promise you it's 100% fact.

I live in Georgia so I have had my share of racists friends/roommates/etc. You learn to laugh at their ignorance and move on.

I agree with Fappy.
You can't change them and you will waste yout ime and energy if you try.
At the same time you cant walk away from every racist that you meet.
So learn to tolerate them.

All the best Belgium footballers are black bet they didn't think about that. You don't know them in real life so you can just stop talking to them. You'll probably find that your other friends will have some sort of prejudice against something. Ever noticed how alot of racist like rap music, I have in England.

Angie7F:
I agree with Fappy.
You can't change them and you will waste yout ime and energy if you try.
At the same time you cant walk away from every racist that you meet.
So learn to tolerate them.

Tolerance being the default of how a society gets by somewhat fairly aside from actual caring and understanding.

Ie: You dont have to like these black people working beside you but you do have to tolerate them.

same thing.

Ie:You dont have to like these racist people but..... you get it.

And like a previous poster said there hate being used online is not the worst thing in the world. Save your vitriol for when white supremecists go kicking down doors and scaring or killing blacks. Save it for when women over seas get there nose's cut off because she didnt want to marry an abusive man and couldnt escape.(I remember reading that it was her brother that held her down while they cut it off)

but when people are racist on forums. meh shrug it off. there your friends but aside from the occasional racist feeling or discussion there not bad people.

Total LOLige:
All the best Belgium footballers are black bet they didn't think about that. You don't know them in real life so you can just stop talking to them. You'll probably find that your other friends will have some sort of prejudice against something. Ever noticed how alot of racist like rap music, I have in England.

I worked with a guy like that! Bastard couldnt explain why hes was racist just that he was "brought up that way" which is not a suitable answer.

Hell I wouldve taken "Because all blacks...." At least then there would have been a semblance of logic.lmao

A simple blocking them seems to be enough. It sucks to have someone you've been friends with turn out to be a cunt, but it's the internet, you can't know these things :/

There's no point arguing with them, they will probably never change their minds.

How old are you guys? Because I had a friend who was always telling racist jokes and eventually he just grew out of it. I don't think he ever actually hated black people he was just trying to be edgy and funny.

Don't worry about it . Black people hate black people too.

rbstewart7263:

Total LOLige:
All the best Belgium footballers are black bet they didn't think about that. You don't know them in real life so you can just stop talking to them. You'll probably find that your other friends will have some sort of prejudice against something. Ever noticed how alot of racist like rap music, I have in England.

I worked with a guy like that! Bastard couldnt explain why hes was racist just that he was "brought up that way" which is not a suitable answer.

I don't know, racism usually starts with the parents.

Also that kind of reminded me of the KKK impersonation in American History X.

mr. awesome:

Now I feel like shit, I have talked and played so much with these two people and now this?

What the fuck should I do?

Stop talking to them sounds like the easy choice.

Yeah, you can continue talking and investigate their views - see why they believe as they do, but if they're over the age of 20 or 25, chances are they're just going to be stubborn at any attempt to reform their view.

If you don't like what they think, then stop associating with them. It's literally doing nothing. If they get uppity about it, tell them you don't associate with ignorant racists. If they get uppity about that, block them.

Simple as that.

I have 4 Belgian friends (and the mother of one of them O.O) so I can relate I guess.

Anyway, about your little problem, I think the 'N' word is a bit more loose in Belgium as my friends have made it clear that they have no problems with any other race, yet will say this word fairly often.

I'd just laugh along, it's not like they are going to act on any of this hate outside speaking to you/others online. It's just harmless racist banter.

You might point out to that first "friend" that you are foreign too so he must hate you as all foreign is bad according to him.

Continue the friendship and avoid racist-inspiring material, or break it up with them if it bothers you too much. Can't relate much when it comes to friends on the internet being racist. A few of them make racist jokes on very rare occasions, and while I don't like that type of jokes, I "laugh" and proceed to ignore it. Often pretty harmless on the internet imo.

On a somewhat related note; had a black friend once(well, 3/4 Swedish, but he still looked fully African. European genes are so damn weak!) and found out the girl I was seeing at the time didn't like him. When I asked why she said "because he's black...".
Broke it up with her instantly and never looked back.

DanielBrown:
Continue the friendship and avoid racist-inspiring material, or break it up with them if it bothers you too much. Can't relate much when it comes to friends on the internet being racist. A few of them make racist jokes on very rare occasions, and while I don't like that type of jokes, I "laugh" and proceed to ignore it. Often pretty harmless on the internet imo.

On a somewhat related note; had a black friend once(well, 3/4 Swedish, but he still looked fully African. European genes are so damn weak!) and found out the girl I was seeing at the time didn't like him. When I asked why she said "because he's black...".
Broke it up with her instantly and never looked back.

Good on you bro. That's a hard line to walk but you prevailed and were rewarded 200 man-points that faithful day.

SonicWaffle:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

SonicWaffle:

Well, isn't it?

"Every true Belgian hates niggers" sounds pretty terrible to me, if that's what this dude truly believes...

I dunno. Real public hate campaigns are terrible. Racial hate crime is terrible. Saying you don't like niggers in a Steam convo certainly isn't nice, but I don't think it qualifies as terrible either. Not in comparison to other stuff anyway.

Yes, but the implication that an entire nation is racist is pretty terrible, particularly if it's widespread. If this guy's opinions are actually representative of a significant proportion of young Belgians, that's very worrying.

Considering the Socialist party is currently the one ruling Belgium, I'd say that implication is bullshit.

Call me crazy but I've got the feeling that if the nation had racist views, they would vote that way too.

Fappy:

DanielBrown:
Continue the friendship and avoid racist-inspiring material, or break it up with them if it bothers you too much. Can't relate much when it comes to friends on the internet being racist. A few of them make racist jokes on very rare occasions, and while I don't like that type of jokes, I "laugh" and proceed to ignore it. Often pretty harmless on the internet imo.

On a somewhat related note; had a black friend once(well, 3/4 Swedish, but he still looked fully African. European genes are so damn weak!) and found out the girl I was seeing at the time didn't like him. When I asked why she said "because he's black...".
Broke it up with her instantly and never looked back.

Good on you bro. That's a hard line to walk but you prevailed and were rewarded 200 man-points that faithful day.

Truly a good deed. If that's not worth a reach-around, what is?

OT: I don't like racism at all. I couldn't call individuals like that my friends.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

SonicWaffle:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

I dunno. Real public hate campaigns are terrible. Racial hate crime is terrible. Saying you don't like niggers in a Steam convo certainly isn't nice, but I don't think it qualifies as terrible either. Not in comparison to other stuff anyway.

Yes, but the implication that an entire nation is racist is pretty terrible, particularly if it's widespread. If this guy's opinions are actually representative of a significant proportion of young Belgians, that's very worrying.

Considering the Socialist party is currently the one ruling Belgium, I'd say that implication is bullshit.

Call me crazy but I've got the feeling that if the nation had racist views, they would vote that way too.

I'm not so sure about that. History has seen bigoted populations silenced by more level-headed leadership. Though in Belgium's case, I agree, they probably are not a bunch of racists... at least no worse than most developed nations. Let's face it, we still live in an incredibly racist world.

Total LOLige:
All the best Belgium footballers are black bet they didn't think about that.

If you're trying to prove that African immigrants contribute greatly to Belgian society, you're not doing a very good job.

Goes to show that you do not call people you only know over the net for friends. Reason being, you don't really know them. You do that in real life.

There's nothing that will fuck up your life faster than associating with people like that. I've been scarred by my youth spent hanging out with Neo-Nazi scum bags. You can either confront them about it, or you can stop speaking to them. Those would be the smart choices.

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