Jake Evans, 17, tells 911 he shot and killed mother and sister

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/jake-evans-tells-911-shot-killed-mother-sister-article-1.1176304

http://soundcloud.com/christin-coyne/jake-evans-911-call

So this is pretty tragic. I'm amazed the dispatcher managed to stay professional while having this conversation. Thoughts? Anything?

He lived in a "Luxurious gated community".
Was home schooled (so probably no bullies right?).
Just because he felt like it?
Did he have mental problems?, I mean to just suddenly decide to murder your mother and sister just seems so random.

Welp at least he can now look forward to decades in prison. Life for him just got a shitload more complicated.

This is insane, its so surreal, listening to it I half expect the kid to give in and say its a joke or something. The woman receiving the call is amazing, managing to keep in control while talking to a monster. I hope I don't sound horrible here but as tragic as this is, its extremely fascinating.

Holy crap, how scared would you be if a guy claiming to have killed his family tells the polic he did it.

At least he turned himself in, but it is still pretty tragic.

The scary thing is just how monotone he is on the phone.
He sounds as if he is ordering a pizza with so little emotion... it is seriously chilling. The way he just stays on the phone with the woman who is keeping her cool so well but inside is probably thinking; "This isn't just a normal day in the office."

The normal reaction would be to panic and flee wouldn't it?

Crimes like this just make me sit back and question 'evil'. I have always believed nobody is born evil but it is the environment and society that corrupts them. This kid lived well and said himself he wasn't angry with the two individuals so just why?

Keoul:
He lived in a "Luxurious gated community".
Was home schooled (so probably no bullies right?).
Just because he felt like it?
Did he have mental problems?, I mean to just suddenly decide to murder your mother and sister just seems so random.

Welp at least he can now look forward to decades in prison. Life for him just got a shitload more complicated.

Living a life so detatched can have effects just as severe as bullying.

Well, I guess I don't know it for a fact, but you can see how someone living like that would slip into insanity.

Then again we don't really have enough details to judge this properly.

Nantucket:
This kid lived well and said himself he wasn't angry with the two individuals so just why?

Because he's fucked in the head?

Shoulda killed himself immediately after. Thanks to an amazing judicial process he'll get tried, might get life in prison. It's Texas so he has a great chance of detting the death penalty. Not a fast enough process for this though.

At least the bastard was honest

Keoul:

Did he have mental problems?, I mean to just suddenly decide to murder your mother and sister just seems so random.

Vidya games. It's always vidya games. Or rap.

Why are people being so damning of him when they don't know his situation?
He probably has some kind of mental disorder.

BodomBeachChild:
Shoulda killed himself immediately after. Thanks to an amazing judicial process he'll get tried, might get life in prison. It's Texas so he has a great chance of detting the death penalty. Not a fast enough process for this though.

I too lament the slowness with which Texas acts upon executing people. It's terrible to think that a few less innocent people might be put to death due to hasty and sloppy proceedings and how that inconveniences people crying for blood in this case.

Better to let a hundred innocent men die than to let this one guy live.

Top Hat:
Why are people being so damning of him when they don't know his situation?
He probably has some kind of mental disorder.

Because we're Americans. And Americans have a punishment fetish. We don't even care if the right person gets punished, so long as someone is punished. Preferably to death.

The freakiest part was how calm he was. No one in their right mind could murder two family members, then call the police and remain as emotionless as him. There's definitely something wrong with him.

holy ****...it's chilling how calm he is on the phone.

Zachary Amaranth:

Top Hat:
Why are people being so damning of him when they don't know his situation?
He probably has some kind of mental disorder.

Because we're Americans. And Americans have a punishment fetish. We don't even care if the right person gets punished, so long as someone is punished. Preferably to death.

That seems a bit extreme, but something tells me you might be generalising a but.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Nantucket:
This kid lived well and said himself he wasn't angry with the two individuals so just why?

Because he's fucked in the head?

Well done Sherlock.
Why is he fucked in the head? I can't think of too many people deciding one day it's time to kill your family without motive.

Top Hat:

That seems a bit extreme, but something tells me you might be generalising a but.

Honey, virtually any time you talk about a large body of people, you are generalising at least "a bit."

Thing is, as Americans we overwhelmingly support these things. So it doesn't matter if individuals do or don't, the culture, the American culture does. We are quick to cry for blood.

I suspect this might be because we live in a culture that has painted ever street corner, every shadow, every bush with dangerous men ready to take our liberty if we don't have shooty-shooty death sticks. A culture that values the ability to inflict harm above all else. We are a violent, death-loving nation as a whole.

And I say this notwithstanding the fact that I'm one of those hippie pacifist librul commie homer seckuals that is threatening liberty by simply existing. So technically, I'm generalising myself.

Nantucket:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Nantucket:
This kid lived well and said himself he wasn't angry with the two individuals so just why?

Because he's fucked in the head?

Well done Sherlock.
Why is he fucked in the head? I can't think of too many people deciding one day it's time to kill your family without motive.

Genetic disposition and growing up detatched from the rest of the world?

You ask the most stupid and unnecessary questions, then proceed to burn anyone who provides answers. Stop it.

Zachary Amaranth:

Top Hat:

That seems a bit extreme, but something tells me you might be generalising a but.

Honey, virtually any time you talk about a large body of people, you are generalising at least "a bit."

Thing is, as Americans we overwhelmingly support these things. So it doesn't matter if individuals do or don't, the culture, the American culture does. We are quick to cry for blood.

I suspect this might be because we live in a culture that has painted ever street corner, every shadow, every bush with dangerous men ready to take our liberty if we don't have shooty-shooty death sticks. A culture that values the ability to inflict harm above all else. We are a violent, death-loving nation as a whole.

And I say this notwithstanding the fact that I'm one of those hippie pacifist librul commie homer seckuals that is threatening liberty by simply existing. So technically, I'm generalising myself.

*facepalm*

If you're going to act like you know what you're talking about, make sure you KNOW what you are TALKING about. I'm sick of people spreading misinformation based off obvious personal bias.

OT: Holy shit. There is OBVIOUSLY something deeply wrong with this kid. Maybe he was born a sociopath and can't feel emotions? Either way, a healthy human being would have been attached to his/her family emotionally.

Nantucket:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Nantucket:
This kid lived well and said himself he wasn't angry with the two individuals so just why?

Because he's fucked in the head?

Well done Sherlock.
Why is he fucked in the head? I can't think of too many people deciding one day it's time to kill your family without motive.

I dunno... this guy I was subscribed to on youtube did the same thing... and he seemed pretty normal... beforehand at least...<.<

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Nantucket:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Because he's fucked in the head?

Well done Sherlock.
Why is he fucked in the head? I can't think of too many people deciding one day it's time to kill your family without motive.

Genetic disposition and growing up detatched from the rest of the world?

You ask the most stupid and unnecessary questions, then proceed to burn anyone who provides answers. Stop it.

I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.

I asked a theoretical question and you're the one who answered. Now, before I stop anything I shall question your answer in regards to 'genetic disposition and growing up detached from the rest of the world'. There are numerous people who have been home-schooled so I doubt that's it.

I'm sure we will find out eventually that he has some kind of mental illness.

Syzygy23:

If you're going to act like you know what you're talking about, make sure you KNOW what you are TALKING about. I'm sick of people spreading misinformation based off obvious personal bias.

And it's misinformation because you say so? Talk about "obvious personal bias."

Come on, if you're going to remove the speck from my eye, make sure to remove the plank from yours, first.

Syzygy23:

OT: Holy shit. There is OBVIOUSLY something deeply wrong with this kid. Maybe he was born a sociopath and can't feel emotions? Either way, a healthy human being would have been attached to his/her family emotionally.

Don't think so, he mentioned in the audio that he is now freaked out by guns after the shooting, and that he is going to have nightmares from it, and that he hates the feeling that he killed someone. These sound like emotions to me.

It's obvious that he has SOME sort of mental problem, probably something related to not understanding rational consequences, but during the record itself, it sounds more like he was in shock, as if being surprised by the results of shooting his family, than simply being "evil" as he described himself.

Yes, there is something wrong with this kid.

Instead of actually investigating and researching mental health, the blame will fall onto video games, violent tv and movies, porn, atheists, muslims, christians, gays, jews, blacks, whites, females, males, animals, mexicans, scandinavians, water polo, football, soccer, cricket, rugby, Manchester United, Glenn Beck, Edward Cullen, Gabe Newell, ETCETERA.

Nothing new or unusual here folks, these things will keep happening for generations.

Entitled:

Syzygy23:

OT: Holy shit. There is OBVIOUSLY something deeply wrong with this kid. Maybe he was born a sociopath and can't feel emotions? Either way, a healthy human being would have been attached to his/her family emotionally.

Don't think so, he mentioned in the audio that he is now freaked out by guns after the shooting, and that he is going to have nightmares from it, and that he hates the feeling that he killed someone. These sound like emotions to me.

It's obvious that he has SOME sort of mental problem, probably something related to not understanding rational consequences, but during the record itself, it sounds more like he was in shock, as if being surprised by the results of shooting his family, than simply being "evil" as he described himself.

He's worried about HIMSELF. Not his dead relatives, not how his father is going to feel.

This is just textbook sociopath.

Stuff like this always makes me curious... what, exactly, was going on in this person's brain? Did he just snap? Stop thinking about things for the duration? Was it sort of like sleepwalking? What's it like to go insane?

(yes, I'm slightly strange. No, I'm never going to Do Ye Likewise. I'm perfectly safe, I promise!)

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Nantucket:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Because he's fucked in the head?

Well done Sherlock.
Why is he fucked in the head? I can't think of too many people deciding one day it's time to kill your family without motive.

Genetic disposition and growing up detatched from the rest of the world?

You ask the most stupid and unnecessary questions, then proceed to burn anyone who provides answers. Stop it.

Genetic disposition? Are you referring to genetic predisposition? If so, please be aware that genetics are not the be-all, end-all of mental illness, nor is growing up 'detached'. I know it should go without saying, but sadly, I can't trust everyone to readily acknowledge these facts.

Also note that he attended public school at least part-time throughout his secondary academic career up until this January, when he began fully homeschooling. Given that these are the few solid facts I can find about his personal life, perhaps I'm missing something, but he doesn't appear to have been highly isolated or 'detached' as he could easily have been had he been homeschooled for all or most of his schooling years.

It definitely seems like something's up, and it's entirely possible to be emotionally abused and neglected in a well-to-do family, so I look forward to more detailed descriptions of what's going on in his head, but I have issues with your quick, dismissive summary of why he could be, quote, 'fucked up' given that the facts don't seem to support your assertions.

Clearly video games, the internet and dubstep are to blame for this.
I can't wait for the public's reaction to this...

It's like something out of a horror movie...

Jeez, that kid is a special kind of fucked up...

Nantucket:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
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I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.

I asked a theoretical question and you're the one who answered. Now, before I stop anything I shall question your answer in regards to 'genetic disposition and growing up detached from the rest of the world'. There are numerous people who have been home-schooled so I doubt that's it.

I'm sure we will find out eventually that he has some kind of mental illness.

Maybe, just maybe, that's what he meant with genetic disposition. [/serious]

The comments on this page are pretty fucked up. The dispatcher may have been saying it as protocol, but she was right. This kid needs help, not to be put down.

I love the woman he's talking to, she's doing an amazing job keeping her cool in an insane situation like that.

It makes me feel good to know that there are actually 911 operators who are able to act professionally. It seems like where I live, that kind of people are rare. There's been several cases in recent years where the operator has been a total asshole, for example, I remember there was a case where a guy called 911 because his wife was acting violently (the guy was of slight build, almost the same weight as the woman) and the operator said "So you're getting your ass kicked by a woman?" and refused to send a police patrol. So yeah.

I don't think he'll get the death penalty being only 17 but he does live in Texas..

I really hope he doesn't. There is something very, VERY wrong in his head and killing him won't get to the bottom of it. I mean, no sympathy because he did still kill his mother and sister so I hope he's still locked away for a very long time.

That operator gets points for keeping calm the entire time.

Nantucket:
I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.

I asked a theoretical question and you're the one who answered. Now, before I stop anything I shall question your answer in regards to 'genetic disposition and growing up detached from the rest of the world'. There are numerous people who have been home-schooled so I doubt that's it.

I'm sure we will find out eventually that he has some kind of mental illness.

Of course its not it. These kind of things are rarely caused by one simple thing. I don't believe he's mentally ill just because he's homeschooled, but would you be surprised if it somehow contributed to it?

Sorry for the rude tone in my reply by the way, but the "Sherlock" comment rubbed me the wrong way.

LittleThestral:
Genetic disposition? Are you referring to genetic predisposition? If so, please be aware that genetics are not the be-all, end-all of mental illness, nor is growing up 'detached'. I know it should go without saying, but sadly, I can't trust everyone to readily acknowledge these facts.

I am by no means a professional but I do know a fair number of people who suffer from varied mental illnesses and what not, and in my experiences it is never just ONE thing. In every story I've heard of or seen unravel first hand, things came together to result in a breakdown.

LittleThestral:
Also note that he attended public school at least part-time throughout his secondary academic career up until this January, when he began fully homeschooling. Given that these are the few solid facts I can find about his personal life, perhaps I'm missing something, but he doesn't appear to have been highly isolated or 'detached' as he could easily have been had he been homeschooled for all or most of his schooling years.

I wonder why he was homeschooled after visiting a public school. Maybe there was a problem with bullying? Or maybe theres more to his relationship to his parents than he let on in the call.

Maybe I'm being too suspicious but to me, this story doesn't scream "Healthy individual with a perfectly normal childhood".

LittleThestral:
It definitely seems like something's up, and it's entirely possible to be emotionally abused and neglected in a well-to-do family, so I look forward to more detailed descriptions of what's going on in his head, but I have issues with your quick, dismissive summary of why he could be, quote, 'fucked up' given that the facts don't seem to support your assertions.

The "facts", as you call them, imply very vague things. Maybe he was bullied, maybe he had a bad relationship to his parents, etc. These things are all possible. I'm merely stating what I believe to have been the most likely course of events.

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