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In a move some might find despicable (or generous), the site PornHub(No I won't put a link or I will get banned} had started a campaign where it will donate 1 cent for every 30 views of any video in either of two categories in the site.

A link to a source.
Another article.

Some highlights:

In a news release this week, the adult website Pornhub.com announced that it would donate 1 cent for every 30 views of certain breast-related videos, "meaning the more boobs that are viewed, the more money that will be showered upon the Susan G. Komen Foundation," it said.

This bizarre breast cancer awareness initiative comes on the heels of a rough year for the Susan G. Komen Foundation. In February, the organization faced significant backlash for threatening to pull funding to Planned Parenthood. Since then, the foundation has seen significant drops in participation in their "Races for the Cure," NPR reported in June. The Ohio Race for the Cure saw a 2,000-person decrease between this year's September 15th event and last year's (pre-Planned Parenthood controversy), Jezebel noted.

In the meantime, donations were rolling in. By Thursday evening, just four days into the campaign, a counter on the Pornhub "Save the Boobs" launch page had topped more than 10 million eligible video views, which meant the site was on track to raise more than $25,000 for breast cancer awareness by the end of the month.

An update and possible scandal? In a not so unpredictable move, the Komen foundation had refused to receive money from PornHub... Following this scandal, donations were running low and less people were coming to the fund's aid. Should they have refused the money from the Porn site?

UPDATE: 10/4 2:29 p.m. -- Pornhub.com released a statement Thursday afternoon indicating that they will no longer be donating a portion of their October revenue to the Susan G. Komen Foundation. The press release reads:
Unfortunately, we have had to change our targeted beneficiary. As such, Pornhub.com is now calling on all breast cancer foundations to come forward and be considered as the recipient of this cash donation.
UPDATE: 10/4 3:16 p.m. -- A Komen spokesperson responded via email to The Huffington Post's request for comment, stating: "Susan G. Komen for the Cure is not a partner of pornhub.com. We will not accept donations from this organization and have asked them to stop using our name."

Well this is...unorthodox

This is silly. They certainly have the right to refuse donations for pretty much any reason, but doing so because they don't like the fact that it's coming from a porn site just seems close-minded, particularly when that money could potentially save lives. Here's hoping some other organization steps up to take their place.

Wow. Just wow. That could have been popular as all those rubber bracelets that said "I like boobies" or something of the sort.

I don't know if this is going to be the accepted view or I'm going to get ripped for this but here it goes anyway...

The Susan G Komen Foundation should accept the funds and it is absolutely ridiculous that they are rejecting the funds because it's from a porn site. Beggars can't be choosers and there is absolutely no way that I'm going to donate to a charity that rejects funding from a group because they don't like it for some reason.

Unless the money is gained from illegal sources (which porn is obviously not), they should accept the money. I don't know if there will be any backlash due to this but I certainly won't donate to a charity organization that picks and chooses who they will accept money from.

Shadowsetzer:
Here's hoping some other organization steps up to take their place.

I know. I actually feel bad that I haven't watched any porn this month because I want to support breasts, but if No One is going to take good money from them, I guess I shouldn't care, either.

Well this is interesting, I do think it's quite silly of them to refuse a donation coming from a porn site, considering that pornography is a perfectly legitimate way of business and it would help them, but they have the right to preserve whatever image they want to give, in any case their lose, in any case pornhub has my respect now, though I still will not visit it, because I'm a strange person and I cannot watch porn.

Spade Lead:

Shadowsetzer:
Here's hoping some other organization steps up to take their place.

I know. I actually feel bad that I haven't watched any porn this month because I want to support breasts, but if No One is going to take good money from them, I guess I shouldn't care, either.

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The fundraising ends at the end of the month of October.
This is in the national Breast Cancer Awareness month.
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Kaleion:
Well this is interesting, I do think it's quite silly of them to refuse a donation coming from a porn site, considering that pornography is a perfectly legitimate way of business and it would help them, but they have the right to preserve whatever image they want to give, in any case their lose, in any case pornhub has my respect now, though I still will not visit it, because I'm a strange person and I cannot watch porn.

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By the way, this was the post I accidentally made in that Roleplaying thread. Silly me.

Really? Wow, I mean fucking really? Those damn idiots. Porn is one of the most viewed things on the internet right? Has been for decades now. There are countless (and I mean countless) horny people out there watching porn every single minute of the day. Do they not understand what kind of quality money could be raised from this?! I.. just, I'm speechless. Those fucking morons.

Wow, such bold idiocy works me up, I apologise.

EDIT: Makes you wonder, huh? Are these foundations truly in it to help people and raise the quality of their lives? Or are they in it just to uphold their own selfish public image?

Somehow I don't think that's the breast decision that charity will ever make, you could say that it was a real boob on their part.

I'll show myself out

Also the initial statement from the site was fantastic

TheIronRuler:
The fundraising ends at the end of the month of October.
This is in the national Breast Cancer Awareness month.

Which is great, if anyone accepts the money...

tippy2k2:
I don't know if this is going to be the accepted view or I'm going to get ripped for this but here it goes anyway...

The Susan G Komen Foundation should accept the funds and it is absolutely ridiculous that they are rejecting the funds because it's from a porn site. Beggars can't be choosers and there is absolutely no way that I'm going to donate to a charity that rejects funding from a group because they don't like it for some reason.

Unless the money is gained from illegal sources (which porn is obviously not), they should accept the money. I don't know if there will be any backlash due to this but I certainly won't donate to a charity organization that picks and chooses who they will accept money from.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head here. I am curious if the fact that they are refusing to accept money which could potentially save lives will cause a bigger commotion than if they had chosen to accept the money.
Also, just throwing this out there from wikipedia, Pornhub is apparently the 60th most-visited website on the internet and the third most popular pornographic website.

Well, I hope another organisation step up to claim the money. It would be an awful shame for it to go to waste. The charity really should have taken it, it's a lot of money and they shouldn't reject the funding just because they don't like the source for some reason. It's not illegal means, so they should accept it really.

Yeah, who cares if people die as long as their image isn't tarnished!

For fuck's sake, this isn't a god damned fund raiser to allow kids to go to the zoo or some frivolous shit like that. Refusing money that would go towards helping save lives for the sole reason that the money's coming from a porn site is goddam selfish. What the fuck were they thinking?!

wintercoat:
Yeah, who cares if people die as long as their image isn't tarnished!

For fuck's sake, this isn't a god damned fund raiser to allow kids to go to the zoo or some frivolous shit like that. Refusing money that would go towards helping save lives for the sole reason that the money's coming from a porn site is goddam selfish. What the fuck were they thinking?!

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I don't think you should be so harsh on them. In some of their eyes the practice of pornography and the whole business is very inappropriate where women are objectified and yada yada yada. I'm already tired of repeating the same verse, but I think you get the gist.

TheIronRuler:

wintercoat:
Yeah, who cares if people die as long as their image isn't tarnished!

For fuck's sake, this isn't a god damned fund raiser to allow kids to go to the zoo or some frivolous shit like that. Refusing money that would go towards helping save lives for the sole reason that the money's coming from a porn site is goddam selfish. What the fuck were they thinking?!

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I don't think you should be so harsh on them. In some of their eyes the practice of pornography and the whole business is very inappropriate where women are objectified and yada yada yada. I'm already tired of repeating the same verse, but I think you get the gist.

And y'know what? That argument is bullshit. That money could have gone towards research, or could have gone towards helping those who can't pay for their treatment get the treatments they need. Instead they decided that not being associated with porn is more important than potentially saving lives, and they need a fucking boot to the ass for being so stupid.

I don't think there is anything wrong with refusing the funds. They have money coming in from so many other sources it probably won't kill them to refuse porn funds (I think breast cancer does the most amount of fundraising out of almost all diseases? Therefore they should be getting a ton of money from it...).

Seriously, I don't care how much you like porn or money, but sometimes people have morals that put limits on both of those things (even if you don't agree with those morals).

Cat Cloud:
I don't think there is anything wrong with refusing the funds. They have money coming in from so many other sources it probably won't kill them to refuse porn funds (I think breast cancer does the most amount of fundraising out of almost all diseases? Therefore they should be getting a ton of money from it...).

Seriously, I don't care how much you like porn or money, but sometimes people have morals that put limits on both of those things (even if you don't agree with those morals).

Except, Susan G. Komen for the Cure, (What a shit name that is...) already said their donations were way down. Then, the upstanding young men who run Pornhub said, "Hey, we all love breasts, they are the best part of being a man, let's help save them!" and Susan G. Komen for the cure said "Nuh-uh. No-o-o-o-o. We don't want your dirty skeevy porn money to damage our reputation, you degenerates!"

Personally, I teased my roommate because he bought the regular dish sponges and not the Pink ones that donated part of every sale to help fund breast cancer research (they were both the same price...) by yelling at him, "Don't you like breasts?! Aren't you a man?! Why didn't you help save the breasts?! Hey everybody, this man doesn't support breasts!" So, it pains me that a foundation dedicated to preventing breasts from being destroyed wouldn't take money from a company that is entirely dedicated to the glorification of the beautiful bouncing breast in action.

I don't care if Hitler came back from the dead and ended up as the Chairmen of Susan G. Komen for the Cure. I would still have given them every dime I could spare. Until now.

After this, fuck them. If someone else steps up and takes the money, I will gladly donate to them, but any foundation that refuses to take well-intentioned and much needed money because of it's source obviously DOESN'T NEED THE MONEY!

TheIronRuler:
By the way, this was the post I accidentally made in that Roleplaying thread. Silly me.

Yeah I figured that out before, shortly after posting that I read the Mod Team chat, also they had the same answers in the poll.
BTW, I only said I was ignoring you because the question said ignore this and I answered yes, without noticing, I didn't actually mean it, though I'm pretty sure you already knew that.

TheIronRuler:
I don't think you should be so harsh on them. In some of their eyes the practice of pornography and the whole business is very inappropriate where women are objectified and yada yada yada. I'm already tired of repeating the same verse, but I think you get the gist.

And although I do agree that people should remain respectful, it's still kind of justifiable to be angry at them, since after all this is money that could be used to save lives, and even if the pornography contradicts some of their ideals, isn't it more important to save lives?

In any case it's somewhat frustrating, for some people, for me a little, I've never met anybody with breast cancer, but my neighbour has a malign cancerous tumour on his head and considering how much financial help he's needed, it's understandable to see why some people would be pretty infuriated by this, I'm assuming that breast cancer has similar effects on people sans the brain damage from the surgery of course.
Well the wording of that sounds a little cold, but I don't really know how else to say it.

Well, at least we know what a shitty charity this is.

Do they have the right to refuse? Sure.
Are they doing the smart thing in doing so? Hell no.

Not like this money came from dubious and illegal sources, nor did they do any of the actual organization so they don't promote porn. Oie, this is just stupid.

Oh man, some of you guys think that 25k is a lot of money. That's cute.

They probably paid more just to their lawyers in order to be able to even consider accepting or rejecting the donation.

I think what the adult site was trying to do was a nice thing, helping fund something like that when they didn't have to is a great thing. It's a shame that they won't accept the money, perhaps they could send it to another charity or something that can help toward the same cause.

DrNeroCF:
Oh man, some of you guys think that 25k is a lot of money. That's cute.

It's more money than $0 which can't go toward anything.

Prudes. A donation's a donation. Don't know what they're whining about.

I for one made a substantial contribution to this campaign.

I'd say they were right in not taking the money. Look, they had the chance to get more than 25000, then let us ask ourselves if this is a whole lot of money or not.

In 2010 they reported 365 millions coming from public donations, sponsoring and certain events. Seeing how taking money from the wrong corporations can cause some sponsors to back out they could lose a lot more money than 25000. A lot of you claim that they worry too much about their public image, but when their image is tied to how much money they get and the money they get is tied into cancer research and education can you blame them for worrying about it?

I am truly disappointed in how oblivious some of you are to the real world.

I'm not sure if it's pride or what, but not accepting that money wasn't the right decision in my opinion. I know not everyone sees eye to eye with pornography, but a donation is a donation. They should have just kept that money, then donated a different 25k instead. Maybe they would have accepted it then? :/

chozo_hybrid:
I think what the adult site was trying to do was a nice thing, helping fund something like that when they didn't have to is a great thing. It's a shame that they won't accept the money, perhaps they could send it to another charity or something that can help toward the same cause.

DrNeroCF:
Oh man, some of you guys think that 25k is a lot of money. That's cute.

It's more money than $0 which can't go toward anything.

It might be more money than $0, but considering that they do events in Texas and have the support of conservatives bringing in millions they do have a lot to lose when they accept the donation from a source those would consider wrong and immoral. One of the controversies in the past have been over them getting involved with stem cell research and it hurt their reputation quite a bit. Losing the support of the big donations just for taking a small one might seem wise to you, but I don't see it that way. In fact their refusal might actually help their reputation because it shows that they are willing to take a stand for what they believe.

Yopaz:
I'd say they were right in not taking the money. Look, they had the chance to get more than 25000, then let us ask ourselves if this is a whole lot of money or not.

In 2010 they reported 365 millions coming from public donations, sponsoring and certain events. Seeing how taking money from the wrong corporations can cause some sponsors to back out they could lose a lot more money than 25000. A lot of you claim that they worry too much about their public image, but when their image is tied to how much money they get and the money they get is tied into cancer research and education can you blame them for worrying about it?

I am truly disappointed in how oblivious some of you are to the real world.

But that is just it, they ALREADY had a scandal that cost them a bunch of money, which is why Pornhub stepped in. They wanted to help. They can't lose more money than they already have if nobody wants to donate to them anyway. Besides, it isn't like they have to go on TV in front of the world and give a huge thank you speech about what a great contribution it was from such an outstanding and upright member of the business .... OH MY GOD, DID I JUST CALL PORNHUB AN UPRIGHT MEMBER?! *Looks back* Oh shit... I swear that was a Freudian slip. I promise I didn't mean it to come out that way I just... Anyway, they can accept the money quietly and just be all, "thanks guys, this will help a few families get early detection screenings, or maybe save the life of a woman who can't afford treatment." No one has to say anything about where it came from or why, just take the money quietly and save a life or four.

*About my Freudian Slip:* Okay, I wrote that, stopped when I was about to type ...(Business) Community and realized what had really come up on the screen in my mad dash to type up a response. I just had to run with it because it was too funny for me not to leave in there. I promise it was a non-sequitur and and in no way a pun or an intended joke.

Well this is a finally a legitimate excuse if you're caught watching porn:
"No honey, I'm not masturbating! I'm helping cure breast cancer! I'm doing this to save your life!"

Spade Lead:

Yopaz:
I'd say they were right in not taking the money. Look, they had the chance to get more than 25000, then let us ask ourselves if this is a whole lot of money or not.

In 2010 they reported 365 millions coming from public donations, sponsoring and certain events. Seeing how taking money from the wrong corporations can cause some sponsors to back out they could lose a lot more money than 25000. A lot of you claim that they worry too much about their public image, but when their image is tied to how much money they get and the money they get is tied into cancer research and education can you blame them for worrying about it?

I am truly disappointed in how oblivious some of you are to the real world.

But that is just it, they ALREADY had a scandal that cost them a bunch of money, which is why Pornhub stepped in. They wanted to help. They can't lose more money than they already have if nobody wants to donate to them anyway. Besides, it isn't like they have to go on TV in front of the world and give a huge thank you speech about what a great contribution it was from such an outstanding and upright member of the business .... OH MY GOD, DID I JUST CALL PORNHUB AN UPRIGHT MEMBER?! *Looks back* Oh shit... I swear that was a Freudian slip. I promise I didn't mean it to come out that way I just... Anyway, they can accept the money quietly and just be all, "thanks guys, this will help a few families get early detection screenings, or maybe save the life of a woman who can't afford treatment." No one has to say anything about where it came from or why, just take the money quietly and save a life or four.

*About my Freudian Slip:* Okay, I wrote that, stopped when I was about to type ...(Business) Community and realized what had really come up on the screen in my mad dash to type up a response. I just had to run with it because it was too funny for me not to leave in there. I promise it was a non-sequitur and and in no way a pun or an intended joke.

Sure, they already lost money, but can you honestly say that the best way to get people to forget a scandal is to willingly start a new scandal?

Edit: Also their financial records are supposed to be open for viewing for possible contributors and the public so they couldn't possibly take it silently. Also the fact that PornHub openly advertised that they were donating also made that impossible. Your logic is astounding.

Yopaz:

chozo_hybrid:
I think what the adult site was trying to do was a nice thing, helping fund something like that when they didn't have to is a great thing. It's a shame that they won't accept the money, perhaps they could send it to another charity or something that can help toward the same cause.

DrNeroCF:
Oh man, some of you guys think that 25k is a lot of money. That's cute.

It's more money than $0 which can't go toward anything.

It might be more money than $0, but considering that they do events in Texas and have the support of conservatives bringing in millions they do have a lot to lose when they accept the donation from a source those would consider wrong and immoral. One of the controversies in the past have been over them getting involved with stem cell research and it hurt their reputation quite a bit. Losing the support of the big donations just for taking a small one might seem wise to you, but I don't see it that way. In fact their refusal might actually help their reputation because it shows that they are willing to take a stand for what they believe.

I get that, I do. I don't live in the US but I have seen enough and read enough to know that it can be how things sadly work. I responded to DrNeroCF on the grounds of that comment just being snide and absolutely pointless.

Like I said, it's a shame they won't accept but, but perhaps someone else may. Either way, I was mostly just saying good on them for trying to do a nice thing.

I wasn't looking to get into a debate over the morality/ethics on it, because that's something that is different for everybody. What is sad, is that people would look down on a charitable organization for accepting legally given money and thus would remove their support when if everyone just helped it would make things (hopefully) better for those affected by cancer is all.

Yopaz:
Sure, they already lost money, but can you honestly say that the best way to get people to forget a scandal is to willingly start a new scandal?

Edit: Also their financial records are supposed to be open for viewing for possible contributors and the public so they couldn't possibly take it silently. Also the fact that PornHub openly advertised that they were donating also made that impossible. Your logic is astounding.

Without being a DICK about it, they can accept a donation from one of the OWNERS of the site, in his name ALONE, without putting in their books "PORN MONIES!"

Now, yes, they did advertise it, but if they call them up and say, "Hey, we appreciate the gesture, but, for our own business interests, could you donate quietly through an individual, and not advertise on your site that you are doing this? It would help us keep our doors open without risking offending our 'Christian' donators sensibilities"

So glad you were smart enough to think about the other options that are always available to Sponsors and not berate me out of hand.

1 cent for every 30 views of any video in either of two categories in the site.

And by the next day, the fight against cancer had gained all the money they would ever need.

Okay actually read the post now. They probably just don't want their organisation associated with porn given how weird America is about sex. Is dumb though.

Spade Lead:

Yopaz:
Sure, they already lost money, but can you honestly say that the best way to get people to forget a scandal is to willingly start a new scandal?

Edit: Also their financial records are supposed to be open for viewing for possible contributors and the public so they couldn't possibly take it silently. Also the fact that PornHub openly advertised that they were donating also made that impossible. Your logic is astounding.

Without being a DICK about it, they can accept a donation from one of the OWNERS of the site, in his name ALONE, without putting in their books "PORN MONIES!"

Now, yes, they did advertise it, but if they call them up and say, "Hey, we appreciate the gesture, but, for our own business interests, could you donate quietly through an individual, and not advertise on your site that you are doing this? It would help us keep our doors open without risking offending our 'Christian' donators sensibilities"

So glad you were smart enough to think about the other options that are always available to Sponsors and not berate me out of hand.

Glad you were able to consider the fact that it would benefit PornHub in terms of taxes and public reputation to be in the records rather to be hidden away. Oh... wait, you didn't consider that part, did you? They wanted to donate it as a company and that's why there's a problem here.

chozo_hybrid:

I get that, I do. I don't live in the US but I have seen enough and read enough to know that it can be how things sadly work. I responded to DrNeroCF on the grounds of that comment just being snide and absolutely pointless.

Like I said, it's a shame they won't accept but, but perhaps someone else may. Either way, I was mostly just saying good on them for trying to do a nice thing.

I wasn't looking to get into a debate over the morality/ethics on it, because that's something that is different for everybody. What is sad, is that people would look down on a charitable organization for accepting legally given money and thus would remove their support when if everyone just helped it would make things (hopefully) better for those affected by cancer is all.

Yeah, I agree, it's a shame that pornography is considered so bad that they can't even contribute to charity. I'd say the money from porn is actually cleaner than the money earned from oil and companies with factories set in third world countries with underpaid workers.

Yopaz:

chozo_hybrid:

I get that, I do. I don't live in the US but I have seen enough and read enough to know that it can be how things sadly work. I responded to DrNeroCF on the grounds of that comment just being snide and absolutely pointless.

Like I said, it's a shame they won't accept but, but perhaps someone else may. Either way, I was mostly just saying good on them for trying to do a nice thing.

I wasn't looking to get into a debate over the morality/ethics on it, because that's something that is different for everybody. What is sad, is that people would look down on a charitable organization for accepting legally given money and thus would remove their support when if everyone just helped it would make things (hopefully) better for those affected by cancer is all.

Yeah, I agree, it's a shame that pornography is considered so bad that they can't even contribute to charity. I'd say the money from porn is actually cleaner than the money earned from oil and companies with factories set in third world countries with underpaid workers.

It is a real shame, it is great to see you pointing out to others what you have been though. Because some may not think of that, and I appreciate that in a forum I really do :) especially on some of the more sensitive issues.

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