Let's talk addiction.

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Lawyer105:

People who are having a bad day or are feeling a bit miserable claim to be depressed. NO, YOU AREN'T! They have no idea what real depression is like.

Kinda off topic to the thread, but that's the fucking truth right there.

Of course, far be it from me to judge other people's depression, I've seen others who have it FAR worse than me, then again I am medicated when I'm saying that.

As for the OP, I echo the sentiments of other here; one of the most infuriating things is going to be mouth-boredom, might be worth getting one of those nicotine inhalers (not sure if they have a common name, they're basically an artificial cigarette), and then hopefully wean yourself off that.

Best of luck to yeh.

Check the NHS (or relevant health authority) website. There are medications that will reduce your cravings and lots of professional advice to help - a specialist website is going to give you better advice than the forums of a gaming website.

My mum had a method wherein every time she wanted a cigarette, she drank a glass of water.

Three days from then, she was sick by the amount she had drank, and gave them up completely, so I guess you have to associate the substance with an uncomfortable feeling, or something along those lines.

Esotera:
Check the NHS (or relevant health authority) website. There are medications that will reduce your cravings and lots of professional advice to help - a specialist website is going to give you better advice than the forums of a gaming website.

Specialists give better advice than me?! What lies and heresy is this?!

:P

krazykidd:
I'm addicted to videogames . I'm serious . I cannot for the life of me go a whole day without playing SOMETHING. ANYTHING . Iv'e tried to before and i start feeling bored , sad and easily irratated . Even if i have to play a stupid iphone game i NEED to play a game . Iv'e been using games as a means of escapism so long that my mind doesn't know how to cope with real life . I spend the majority of day either playing games ( if i'm not working ) , reading about games (like here on the escapist ) or thinking about games ( if i can't be playing a game at for any reason ). Iv'e actually lost a couple of girlfriends to gaming . Now i could probably quit gaming if i really tried , but i enjoy gaming , yes i am addicted but i enjoy it, so i never actually put an effort to quit it .

As for OP. Good fucking luck . Seriously . Apparently smoking is the hardest addiction to quit. The withdrawl effects are suppose to be horrendous . So here is my advice . Man the fuck up , summon all your will power , and don't smoke . I helps that you cannot for a week . My next suggestion is to continue after the week is over , do not start again . Just tough it out . Try to replace it with something. Anything . Get some tictacs and start poping them in your mouth when you got a craving . Also keep your hands busy . Find something to keep on your a all times to play with . Just so you hands have somethig to do .

Good luck.

Just curious... did you self diagnose that? Careful man... you may well be addicted, but it's also possible you have a severe underlying problem that you aren't addressing.

In my case, my parents brought up concerns about addiction. At this point I was aware something was wrong with me so I went ahead with inquiries and consultations.

After 2 years of hoping around an answer finally arrived. I am prone to deep depression and suffer from crippling anxiety. This isn't "I feel sad" and "I'm shy"... I was slowly shutting down and shutting myself off from others. Video games were my escapism, but not my affliction. In turn I likely did become obsessed over them, but once the core of my issue was recognised I was able to take measures to break away from it. I still play games, but I don't have that compulsion and I'm no longer as irritable when I do play.

Just a few things that should be noted. If you are withdrawing from social circles (few friends, getting fewer) have very weak motivations (to the point of not being able to get up some mornings) and are abandoning goals (college courses you actualy want to do) or self destructing (gaining weight, drinking excessively) then you might want to reassess your issues.

Depression and Anxiety are deceptive problems, since we still live in an age where people think "cheer up" and "man up" are enough to tear someone out of it. You may be aware of problems I mentioned, but even then your brain might refute it as being paranoid or something. It took me months after diagnosis to actually comprehend the problem.

Keep your mouth and hands busy. Pistachios are great for this, although you can put on a bit of weight.

Alternatively, every time you have a craving, do another piece of a jigsaw puzzle. I know someone who finished a 750 piece puzzle this way (they had a hard time stopping smoking), but at the end, the cravings were very manageable.

Well, if there's just a dirty little stain of love you feel for yourself remaining, you'll just stop smoking. No need for patches, pills or other costly mumbo jumbo. Just don't smoke. It will be hard and harsh and very uncomfortable for a brief period of time, but the only thing that helps quitting is just plain to refuse to go out and buy fags, refuse to stick them in your mouth, refuse to light them up, refuse to inhale. For a moment, you'll feel like going through ashtrays or sucking on discarded filters people dropped on the floor, but if the goal is to just plain not smoke, all you have to do is to keep you from going through all the required motions that allow you to stick one in your mouth and huff and puff away. It's really that simple.

I still enjoy cigars and the like, but I only developed a cigarette habit when I considered it the least offensive outlet for my then prevalent self hatred. I also developed a bad caffeine habit which was hard to get a grip on, as not drinking coffee/coke/tea sent me into craving and heaving fits, had me on berserker mode and gave me cramps until my minimum dosage of caffeine was administered. Holidays, tea and an iron will helped me get rid of that rather uncomfortable habit. I now enjoy two to three cups of coffee - at the very most. For stressful times, there's guarana powder, which goes into teas, milk, yogurt or on fruits. Anything goes if handled correctly.

anthony87:

Denamic:
Tip: Stop smoking.
Problem solved.

Holy crap you're right! How could nobody have figured this out before?

Beats me.
It's an extremely simple problem with an extremely simple solution.

anthony87:

Denamic:
Tip: Stop smoking.
Problem solved.

Holy crap you're right! How could nobody have figured this out before?

Indeed, you have right my friend.
I think the reason, for my, why I didn't thought of that, is the giant amounts of cocaine I sniff while I writing my post!!!!
I really should stop smoking now.
But first I must finish my cocaine I had left to my cat's corpse.

*SSSNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF*

Denamic:

anthony87:

Denamic:
Tip: Stop smoking.
Problem solved.

Holy crap you're right! How could nobody have figured this out before?

Beats me.
It's an extremely simple problem with an extremely simple solution.

Yeah. Almost as simple as your understanding of addiction.

Ragsnstitches:

krazykidd:
I'm addicted to videogames . I'm serious . I cannot for the life of me go a whole day without playing SOMETHING. ANYTHING . Iv'e tried to before and i start feeling bored , sad and easily irratated . Even if i have to play a stupid iphone game i NEED to play a game . Iv'e been using games as a means of escapism so long that my mind doesn't know how to cope with real life . I spend the majority of day either playing games ( if i'm not working ) , reading about games (like here on the escapist ) or thinking about games ( if i can't be playing a game at for any reason ). Iv'e actually lost a couple of girlfriends to gaming . Now i could probably quit gaming if i really tried , but i enjoy gaming , yes i am addicted but i enjoy it, so i never actually put an effort to quit it .

As for OP. Good fucking luck . Seriously . Apparently smoking is the hardest addiction to quit. The withdrawl effects are suppose to be horrendous . So here is my advice . Man the fuck up , summon all your will power , and don't smoke . I helps that you cannot for a week . My next suggestion is to continue after the week is over , do not start again . Just tough it out . Try to replace it with something. Anything . Get some tictacs and start poping them in your mouth when you got a craving . Also keep your hands busy . Find something to keep on your a all times to play with . Just so you hands have somethig to do .

Good luck.

Just curious... did you self diagnose that? Careful man... you may well be addicted, but it's also possible you have a severe underlying problem that you aren't addressing.

In my case, my parents brought up concerns about addiction. At this point I was aware something was wrong with me so I went ahead with inquiries and consultations.

After 2 years of hoping around an answer finally arrived. I am prone to deep depression and suffer from crippling anxiety. This isn't "I feel sad" and "I'm shy"... I was slowly shutting down and shutting myself off from others. Video games were my escapism, but not my affliction. In turn I likely did become obsessed over them, but once the core of my issue was recognised I was able to take measures to break away from it. I still play games, but I don't have that compulsion and I'm no longer as irritable when I do play.

Just a few things that should be noted. If you are withdrawing from social circles (few friends, getting fewer) have very weak motivations (to the point of not being able to get up some mornings) and are abandoning goals (college courses you actualy want to do) or self destructing (gaining weight, drinking excessively) then you might want to reassess your issues.

Depression and Anxiety are deceptive problems, since we still live in an age where people think "cheer up" and "man up" are enough to tear someone out of it. You may be aware of problems I mentioned, but even then your brain might refute it as being paranoid or something. It took me months after diagnosis to actually comprehend the problem.

I know what you mean. When i said i was addicted i meant it as : I Cannot not play videogames , if i do " x,y,z" happens . It's most likely what i do to escape from other problems . But i haven't gone to a specialist to find out if i have any issues .

Gonna have to spoiler these replies haha.

anthony87:
Yeah. Almost as simple as your understanding of addiction.

I spent my late teens, 16 through 19, smoking away pretty much every single coin I had. Then I quit cold turkey. Believe me, I know what withdrawal is like. I never said it was easy. I said it's simple, and it is. Just endure, and the withdrawal eventually goes away. There's nothing complicated about it.

So let's not be condescending with baseless assumptions.

My friend is massively addicted to cigarettes, so we made him a bet.

If he smokes between now and Christmas (something incredibly difficult for him NOT to do), he has to get a nipple piercing.

Hasn't touched one since.

I hear you OP. And of course you can see that you are not alone in the world. That is the most important thing for you to know is that you always have a backing of people here that will help you through a problem. The nicotine thing is a horrible situation to be in. I cite my father as a reference. He has been using chew since his own dad TRICKED him into taking a pinch when he was 15. He went through almost 2 cans a week. Spit bottles would be all over our house it was disgusting. After a neck surgery he had had resulted in almost paralyzing him, the doctor told him that his ultra nicotine use had weakened his bones to the point where bone screws would just pop out if they tried to fix the damage. He was told he had to quit at THAT moment in the doctors office. I reached for his can and poured the contents into the bin. The next few weeks were not pleasant for anyone in the house. Not only was he in pain from MAJOR NECK SURGERY, he was cold-turkey coming down from 32 years of nicotine abuse. The only thing that kept him sane, was when I suggested he buy jerky chew as a substitute. He tried it and of course hated the whole idea, but after a while he just had to accept the substitute. It's been 7 months since then and now the jerky chew has literally just replaced the old addiction, but you know what it's one thing I don't mind driving to the store to get him. I can only hope it's a matter of time until the cravings completely pass.

On a more personal note, OP. I too can sooo feel where you are coming from. I can't say what because I don't wish for people who know me by this name to know what it is, but please trust me when I say the "thing" that has had me hooked for 5 years is right up there with methamphetamine and heroin in the "I'm screwed" spectrum. (It's not either of those, but yeah. Not fun.)

capper42:
I think I'm quite addiction resistant.

I drink a fair bit, but when I'm in a situation where I drink much less (when I'm at home or have less money) I don't really miss it. I also toyed with smoking last year, having one about every other night or so for a few weeks. I never felt compelled to do so, I just enjoyed having something to do really. Once my housemates went to bed (I stay up late) I'd pop into the garden, listen to some music and have a fag. I stopped without problem when I realised it was a silly thing to do. Perhaps if I'd smoked more I would have become worse, but like I said, I never really felt compelled to.

I smoked weed quite heavily when I was about 15-16, but quit because my girlfriend hated it, and didn't have any problem giving that up either. I know people say it's not addictive, but I know people who would have a hard time stopping.

Why won't you be able to smoke anymore, if you don't mind me asking?

nicotine

eh i am in the cigarettes are far more dangerous than mary jane catagory

The Tall Nerd:

nicotine

eh i am in the cigarettes are far more dangerous than mary jane catagory

I agree somewhat, but when I spoke about weed I was merely giving information about myself I deemed relevant to the topic. There are far far more different harmful chemicals in cigarettes than marijuana. I heard somewhere that mj is much more carcinogenic though, but I've never looked into that myself.

i could by it though i think its the smoking part

i dont think smoking anything is good for you in general , there are otherways to ingest it if you wanna get the effect, though i dont do drugs , call me what you will

i have a phobia of stuff altering my state of mind
scares the sh** outta me meng

I'm addicted to video games. I'm addicted to reading. I'm addicted to staying up too late. I'm addicted to potato chips and popcorn.

I'm especially addicted to romance... <.<

I know I have a bit of an addictive streak in me. I'm sure that explains why I am such a prolific poster here. That's why I'm very careful with my drinking and I will NEVER use recreational drugs.

Sorry to hear that you started smoking OP. Can't say I agree with you starting and I hope that you'll find a way to stop before it damages you too badly. That said, it is your body. Make your own mind about how you want to handle it.

Oh, one thing I forgot:

try to limit your contact with people for the first couple days of quitting. I'm going on 18 hours without a smoke and I want to punch fucking everyone.

It makes you a wee bit grumpy, is what I'm trying to say.

I'm not really addicted to anything. I drink sometimes with friends but only occasionally on weekends when we go out. I used to get quickly addicted to good books, tv series, games, etc. I think when I read the first Harry Potter book as a kid, I stayed up very late for the first time in my life because I couldn't stop. Nowadays, that's not really a problem. I don't seem to get addicted to those things so easily and find it easier to stop when I have other things to do. It's rather the opposite now but I don't really like it.

I've tried cigarettes twice in my life I think but I never started smoking myself, however most friends and family members smoke. Some more, some less but my father was a really heavy smoker before I was born. He'd smoke 3 or 4 packs a day, maybe even more.
My mother told me that he tried to quit cold turkey once, it didn't work out at all. They went out that day and the whole evening he just couldn't stand or sit still and would move his hands around the whole time, touching his pockets and not knowing what to do with them. He would get easily irritated and yell at her for no reason. When they got back home, he lit a cigarette and didn't try to stop again for a while.
It was pretty bad but he hasn't smoked a cigarette for over two decades now but I'm afraid the story of how he stopped won't be helpful for you. He said that he got sick really badly one day and was bedridden for over a week. It was so bad that he didn't smoke at all during that time and when he got better, the urge to smoke wasn't so strong anymore. So he simply never lit a cigarette again after that but he told me that if he ever smoked one again, it would be like he never stopped.

I smoked daily for about 2 years, couldn't estimate how much, but bare minimum a pack a week.

Eventually I just stopped.

Which is my advice to you OP, the only way to really quit is going full cold-turkey

this is gonna sound like an advert since it's my first post but if you want to quit smoking try champix. in australia it's government subsidized so you can pick up a prescription for the cost of 2 packs of cigs so well worth a try

the good thing about champix is you continue smoking for 2 weeks after starting the pills so it's a good way to start quitting when you have no intention of actually quitting and by the time the 2 week mark rolls around your desire for a smoke is greatly reduced so all you need is the motivation to break the mental addiction

I've never had a cigarette in my life and I don't plan to. So I guess there's gum, patches, and maybe counseling if cravings get a little out of control.

In terms of addiction, I was once addicted to potato chips. Not sure if it was due to being a child who could climb to the highest shelf and get them or it was a serious addiction. The next thing I new I was in 6th grade and being bullied and ridiculed by my weight (I got larger vertically, not horizontally). After getting on a diet, exercising daily, and staying away from potato chips, I rarely even think about them, let alone eat them.

Edit: Yay... sucked into a necro'd thread. Go me.

This is going to get a ton of people acting like dicks, but:

I'm addicted to food. Have been since childhood. Sad? Eat. Happy? Eat. Bored? Eat. Any emotion means eating. If I'm not doing anything, I must be eating.

I've gotten better over the years - right now I usually eat a small breakfast (usually oatmeal at work), have a snack at work (usually an apple, bran muffin or granola bar), then lunch. Except lunch is leftovers from dinner, and usually a very large portion. Then at dinner, I eat a BIG meal. It's well-rounded, usually a very large serving of veggies, a regular portion-size of meat... but I usually eat double the carbs needed.

I could also judge the clock in the evening based on my stomach. At 7pm almost on the dot (I eat dinner between 5-6:30) my stomach will send the "I'm empty" signals. And it will continue to send them until just after 8. I don't usually eat during this time as logically I know my stomach is full, but it's a battle. Usually I'll have something small around 8-8:30, but that's still probably a couple hundred calories or more. I could eat dinner later, but I"m at work by 8am and I've been eating around 5:30 all my life. Very hard to change.

I gave up pop and chips a few years ago, stopped buying them other than special occassions (this means maybe 3-4 cans of pop a month and maybe one bag a month), and I've mostly gotten past the withdrawl of that. That was hard.

However, I constantly crave carbs. Which is really hard to deal with. My doctor has tested us (my sister and I) many times for all sorts of health issues and we're always fine. But I always want carbs. Especially starchy carbs like pasta.

Honestly, I know people will call bullshit on this. That's fine. It's a real addiction though, and it's a struggle every day. My fridge? Literally all it has is condiments, soy milk, and various veggies. Pantry? All things you have to work to prepare, other than tortilla chips, stale pretzels and some nuts. Mostly just dried pasta, soups, and spices/canned items. Freezer? Mostly full of meat and fozen veggies. And frozen bran/oatmeal muffins.

Snark away, but when you were raised on KD, hot dogs, chips and pizza, trying to change your lifestyle and diet as an adult is near impossible. I've changed my diet, but I now eat larger portions of healthier food, so it negates itself. It's a very hard battle.

It's all about the three day hell. If you manage to do three days without giving in then you're set.
I find that three days is always the clincher with changing anything, including sleeping habits, you just have to stick to it and it gets easier. Don't give in.

A banned user hit the smoking nail on the head, go running. it works unbelievably well, massive cardio makes you wheeze like a 90 year old and realise just what you've been missing out.

I went from running 100yds before dying to running a steady 6 miles. The fags are by far the worst addiction ive ever had to deal with.

Second to that was caffiene, and its annoying migraine withdrawel side effects. not fun, but then thats why its an addiction.

Also I find gaming addictive, but easier to deal with, and reading, man if i pick up a good book, then i look myself away until ive finished it!

BlueberryMUNCH:
So, I started smoking cigarettes a few months ago. I'm addicted.
I know it's stupid and I know it's bad for you, but I still do it. I tried to quit last week but I just couldn't and...it's scary, actually.
Thing is, I'll be (pretty much) physically unable to smoke from next week onwards...and I don't know how I'm gonna cope.

SO, Escapist, first of all: do you have any tips for overcoming the addiction of smoking?
(patches and gum are also not an option).

Secondly, I want to hear your addiction stories. What were/are you addicted to? Have you overcome it? ...and anything else you'd like to share.

So yeah, I leave the floor to you guys.
Let's talk addiction.

Edit: I'm trying to reply as much as I can but...it's tough haha. But know that I read and appreciate every post<3.

Hoo boy. I might not be the best person to talk to as I tried and failed, but I can share what I did learn.

Cold Turkey works, but you HAVE to be dedicated. Willpower doesn't describe it, it'll take focus. Hopefully you'll have an easier time than me as you haven't been smoking that long.

The way I coped was down to 3 things.
1) Writing down the time and what was going on when I wanted a cigarette. This helped me figure out patterns in my cravings and triggers. Helped me to avoid the shops when I was craving.
2) Lollipops. Seriously. Lollipops are the shit. Something to do with your hands, something to do with your mouth, it's perfect.
3) Standing upwind of smokers. Knowing where to stand will make your life much easier. Though I guess this one depends on if you hang out with other smokers.

I cracked because I went to a flat party where the kitchen was essentially hotboxed with cigarette smoke. Try and avoid that.

Good luck to you!

P.S. Try not to stare at other people's cigarettes. Sometimes they get the wrong idea. A guy thought I was gay I spent so long starring at the rollie hanging out of his mouth. Rather surreal conversation to have on the street.

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