Poll: Your opinion on School Uniforms.

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Yeah yeah "But it stifles people's individuality!" blah blah bullshit. Beyond the simple point that you're at school, not at the mall you goddamn hippy, anyone who requires specific clothing to express their "Personality" doesn't have one.

Except for the fact that teenagers don't have personalities, not in the proper sense. The teenage years are for forming these personalities by pushing whatever boundaries they can, and personalities are then formed. By having very strict boundaries in any form, such as clothes, in this case, frequently teenagers will either push harder elsewhere or simply all end up with the exact same personality in the end, depending on circumstances.

Honestly, my opinion on uniforms is mixed. I understand why they are used (help bring "togetherness" as a school, help identify kids easier, less bullying, etc), but have to wonder whether or not the cost (I'd estimate around $500 per student per year, at least) is really worth it. Around here they might be able to do it (my graduating class had 23 students, to give you an idea of the size of school we're talking), but a bigger school where there's at least 200 kids per class? That needs to be a serious question. And as for having parents pay for the uniforms themselves? Any member of any school board around here who suggested that would be crucified immediately, considering how generally poor this area tends to be, on top of how many around here would reject the notion of paying to go to public school outright absurd.

On top of that, I also question how much bullying is really affected by clothing. I swear to you I WISH clothes were the thing I had to worry about most in high school. In fact, I wore (and still generally wear) sweats every day, and have never been mocked for it (outside of my brothers, and at least not to the point where I know about it) while living in VERY strict blue-jean country. Not to mention that Haters, as they say, are Gonna Hate. If one would bully anyway, clothes are just one thing of many that people can pull apart.

My niece goes to a private school where they have a uniform code, but it's more of a strict dress code than actual uniform; they are allowed a selection of clothes. Yes, bought through the school, but again, private school (and in a different state). I honestly think this kind of thing is the best "uniform" option; make the kids have some sort of uniformity, but also allow them a little bit of wiggle room in regards to their clothing.

Eh I am indifferent on school uniforms save for these conditions which will generally make me rage.

-Students having to pay for the uniforms, on top of an already high tuition bill.
I should clarify that I'm from America and school uniforms are stereotypically reserved for private schools for whatever reason. Most of the time school uniform costs for the students are reasonable, but I've had friends who needed to pay upwards of one hundred bucks for shitty blazers and that was just stupid. I feel like if the school wants to have a uniform then they should pay for the uniform.

-Uniforms being innapropriate for seasonal weather changes.
I live in the south, winters can be pretty mild so your basic jacket/long pants combo is usually enough to keep you warm. Summer however is absolutely brutal. Humid, muggy, temps regularly breaking 100 degrees. A lot of schools are smart and either have different uniforms for summer and winter weather, or allow students to wear shorts/short sleeved shirts so long as they're the right color/length. Some aren't smart and make students pass out from heat stroke. See also: Making your uniforms out of cheap thin fabric and having all your students freeze to death anyway.

-Uniforms having strict gender segregation.
This one is mostly just personal. I hate skirts. I hate wearing skirts, I hate having to sit down in skirts, I just cannot stand those things and I think I would strangle someone before I wore one for any extended period of time. The only exception to this is a skirt that goes down to my ankles. I can tolerate those because I can still move relatively freely in them. Knee or above? Hate it. As long as the girls can still wear pants then I'm cool with uniforms.

Every school I have attended has required a uniform. Although, in the last few years of high school, a few friends and I started to ignore it up to the point where the only school clothing I was wearing was my year 12 jumper. This made the most sense, as it allowed my to wear my jeans and shoes of my choice, (supposed to be black leather) and keep my lip stud in. Uniforms never bothered me until about year 11, but they way we dealt with it was great and should have been the policy. Wear a school top or jumper, but allow the freedom to choose pants, shoes and headgear. Making me buy a $180 pair of uncomfortable shoes is annoying, but not letting me wear mine ONLY because the are made from suede is ridiculous.

Never had to wear a uniform and i don't think i'd like it. And tbh, i have never seen lots of bullying due to clothing either, sure some times you may have had some teasing but i've never seen someone cry because he/she was bullied for his/her clothing.

I think uniforms solve an non-existent issue.

Bullying isn't the main reason uniforms exist. They're for the benefit of the school as a collective more than the individual students, as students look smart and further the name of the school. They're also held more accountable to their actions on public transport as complaints can be addressed to the relevant headmaster. Also cheesy as it sounds it fostered a sense of school spirit in my high school, especially with the Blazers getting progressively more fancy as you contributed to music, sport or the school community in general.

By year 12 my dark brown blazer had a sky blue trim and a wreath around the school crest due to my participation in sports, I had multiple "lines" outlining my role in various rowing crews. I was also allowed to pin my cadet adventure training award badge to it signifying the grueling week I spent in the wilderness of Tasmania. I looked fancy as hell.

I gave very few shits about my school career until I got that blazer and now I'm in uni I'm glad I have it as a memento. So basically uniforms can offer a lot to both students and institutions provided they're done well.

I'm open to the idea, but I prefer my jeans-and-band-tee approach to fashion. I'm in high school, let me have these 4 years to not give a crap about what I look like.

I've been to schools with uniforms all my life, and I loved it. Not so much the uniform itself, but the sense of prestige that came with it. Especially the transition from primary school uniform to a high school one. It felt really special, and like a whole new step. And of course, if you were out and about people could tell what school you went to.

And probably one of the better parts was the differing uniforms each year got, so you could tell who were in their final year of high school. At my school it was just a different coloured tie and braiding on the blazer, but you felt so awesome with them. You were also allowed to wear school awards (like sporting or academic badges, and the such-like) on your blazer, which was great.

The only problems was the price of a new uniform, but it also prevented bullying in this sense. Everyone wears the same thing, so there's no insults based on your clothing (especially since I went to an all-girls school, just imagine otherwise).

But seriously, I'll be sending my kids to a uniformed school. You look classy, you feel classy, and they become great mementos once you've left.

I live in a country in which school uniforms are a alien concept. But I would still say YES. Since it would bring unity in school, community and pride over what school you go to since you will be tagged with the schools image (And knowing some schools, it would definitely help some kids keep their hands out of trouble during, after and before school.)

Also it would remove the alienation via clothing styles and fads. It would help ease the fresh students in new school to blend in and would remove the "poor kids" and "rich kids" of clothing mentality.
And it would keep the girls from dressing extremely stupidly on wrong weathers (specially winter), which is as issue here due to fads (-15 to -25 Celsius and they go around with short jeans open chest jacket and high heels - at the age of 13-15)
And it might teach teen boys where their waist is and how to use a belt.

I'm going into my final two years of Compulsory Education. For the love of god, Compulsory School uniforms can go suck a massive cock.

I think it creates an environment suitable for maintaining order but not so much for learning. If there's a problem that the kids might tear down the walls then uniforms are probably appropriate, if not then they should be counter-productive. Since kids aren't actually meant to learn in schools though they're probably always a good thing for the schools goals but I still don't really agree with them.

i went to a school without uniform.
if my school would have introduced them i would have changed school on the same day.
school uniforms are evil at its purest face.

I went to an elementary and middle school that required uniforms, but really, they where more of a strict dress code.

For guys, we had to wear white, plain collared shirts (or light blue, depending on the school occasion), navy blue slacks or jeans/shorts, and navy blue sweaters/jackets during the winter months. For girls, they also wore the same, only that they could also choose to wear a blue school uniform dress, or knee/long skirts. We were also not allowed to wear any hats, caps, or beanies, boots, or costumes unless it was Halloween.

I didn't mind it much and many of us would wear under shirts, so we could just take off our white collar shits after school and go about our day.

What's a form? (asking because everyone keeps talking about sixth form like some sort of armed division.)

Been to schools with uniforms and they all want you to buy them yourselves. Pain in the ass really, and not just because of the costs, everyone forced to have their uniform exactly right no matter how uncomfortable it is.

No, I don't like the idea. It means I'll always have to have a clean uniform ready. As it is now I may wake up one day and find that I have spilled something on my clothes. I get a new shirt from the closet and toss the old one in the laundry basket.

It's really warm outside? I get a short sleeved shirt or maybe just a t-shirt. It's cold? I get one of my thicker long sleeved shirts or a sweater if it's really awful.

A dress code that isn't too strict is OK though, but I'm actually a little indifferent to it since it wouldn't affect me.

Honestly it never bothered me to be in uniform at all times. If anything it was convenient, because it meant my decent clothes didn't get wrecked during the kinds of activities a young boy/teenager engages in during primary/secondary school. I've gone through a lot of pairs of plain black trousers and school polo shirts in my time, better them than my own clothes.

Side note: Both my primary and secondary school uniform consisted of a simple trousers + polo shirt combination. I know a few schools had to have the full trousers, shirt, blazer, tie get up; but I never heard too many complaints.

Yes. It saves time while changing in the morning, creates a sense of pride and helps people feel like part of something bigger than themselves. That is, if the school in question is run competently. If not, there is no point - people will take no care of their uniforms, ripping them and ending up looking scruffy as hell.

Yes. Because I'd rather people didn't mock me for my complete lack of fashion sense.

Schools I was in had uniforms, FYI.

What's a form? (asking because everyone keeps talking about sixth form like some sort of armed division.)

Been to schools with uniforms and they all want you to buy them yourselves. Pain in the ass really, and not just because of the costs, everyone forced to have their uniform exactly right no matter how uncomfortable it is.

Compulsory education ends at 16 here in the UK. One of your options afterwards is to go to sixth form for the next two years to get your A-levels so you can go to university.

Most English schools have uniforms, so a yes for me.

To be honest I don't really care as much as I did when I was in school. Like most things it seemed like a huge issue at the time, but when it comes down to it it's not any different from having to wear a suit or uniform to work. It's probably handy for removing yet another distraction from kids trying their hardest not to learn anything.

That said, our school uniform colours were horrible. Bottle green in a nasty scratchy material and ties with orange/bottle green stripes. Horrible stuff.

What's a form? (asking because everyone keeps talking about sixth form like some sort of armed division.)

In the UK we have school until 16, then you can spend the next two years in either College or 6th Form. 6th Form is basically the same as our college except it's attached to a secondary (high) school and rather than do a qualification you do several subjects at a more advanced level.

Then after that we have university for 2+ years (most courses are three though).

I don't mind having a uniform,my school tried to include them,buuuut they didn't last a month...and for good reasons.
The artificial fabric was abysmal,wearing it in the middle of 30C summer just makes you sweat 10 times more,in winter I imagine the cold piercing through it at all times and it was just uncomfortable wear.All that for the small cost of your arms.

Office-environment shirts are not designed for sitting outside in subtropical/tropical locales, nor in crowded auditoriums, which I had to do numerous times, thus being drenched in sweat that felt awful.

Ties are not designed to be worn every day. They occasionally strain breathing and are a nuisance to put on. I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one who cannot get a tie to be tied symmetrically.

Everything else, meh. Fine.

I went to both a primary and secondary school that required uniform in the UK. I think (in retrospect- I hated it at the time) that it's a good way to promote school unity, and it's a damned good equaliser. If everyone is dressed the same, then it's harder to pick someone overly poor or overly rich out, and peg them down for it.

They should be optional. Uniforms don't prevent bullying, at best they make it about something else and at worst they add another element to it (consider; ties). If someone is bullied for what they're wearing, it's a golden opportunity for the school's staff to do their fucking jobs, wouldn't you say?

At primary school in the UK I had to abide by a very strict uniform (grey shorts all year round, white shirts, tie, grey jumper, black blazer) then when I went to secondary school (a different school) the uniform was more of a guideline - you had to wear a white shirt and the school tie but beyond that you just had to look smart.

I think it helps however because it puts everyone on a level scale and removes the element of being bullied with regards to your clothes, makes you identifiable to members of the public and just helps instil a bit of smartness in children.

It was good for me because i had no sense of style and couldnt wear my portal shirt everyday or i would have smelt

Hell no. The only discernible effect it'd have would be me screwing around with it.

I already was at permanent odds with most other students, and no amount of forced homogenity was going to change that. Not to mention that "sense of belonging" quoted so far would've been about as attractive as openly displaying a subscription to scat porn.

... Yea, you guessed correctly: I didn't enjoy high school much.

I also would like to point out that while school uniforms might instill a sense of smartness, giving your students the freedom to develop their own sense of fashion can't be dismissed out of hand. Lately my own fashion sense has been improving, but that probably did require all those stupid phases I went through.

To the posts regarding developing one's fashion, you do realise that you can do that after school, on the weekends, and on holidays?

Everyone needs their individuality, and school uniforms try and take that away

twelve years of public schooling with no uniforms here.

I really disliked them, but even worse was the reasons the school said they were necessary.

1.Safety-We didn't have anything like gangs at our schools and there was never any news worthy moment brought about by someone being in danger due to their clothes.

2.Save Money-This would only work if regular clothes weren't purchased for the student. In reality, parents and students had to buy clothes for school as well as clothes for everywhere else.

3.Sense of Adulthood-This one holds some water, but I personally just find it ironic because as soon as I go to an adult institution of education (college), I'm allowed to wear whatever I want.

4.Promotes Equality-No, school uniforms do not promote equality, they promote homogeneity. Big difference.

I had school uniforms from elementary school to middle school. Then in high school you can wear whatever you like that is within the school rules.

I wish my high school had school uniforms like they do in Japanese anime. I always liked that type of uniform.

Well it'd certainly eliminate people being picked on for what they wear, but then people would probably just find something else to pick on them them for.

2nd year in Ireland,we have a really uncomfortable and itchy polyester jumper and shitty long sleeve shirt.I managed to land on a decent pair of 'slacks' whoch are basically cargo pants with a texture like slacks.
We do get a really comfortable outdoor coat though.
Really jelous of the grammar school near us who have soft cotton jumpers,fancy blazers and the same school coat as us with a different crest.

Am I the only one that didn't stress about clothes in High School. Reading through the comments and its sounds like people think putting on a shirt and pants in the morning is a difficult thing to do. Sorry if that came off a bit you know jerkish if it did didnt mean that

I think it's just a useless extra expense, since they need to be changed every time the kids change school. Casual (or at least comfortable) dress code all the way!

I wore one till grade 2 and didn't mind it. Still, there was the cost which was pretty steep for my parents, so I suppose I'm against it.

My middle school required us to wear polo shirts and khakis, though they eventually decided to allow jeans as well. It wasn't that big of a deal. So as long as they don't go overboard, I don't have a problem with dress codes. I get the reasoning behind them, and it really doesn't effect the students all that much.

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