Guy seeks to prove how safe guns are, kills himself by mistake

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Darwin in action.

Okay, people. Let's get this straight once and for all. Just because in Call of Duty you can take 5 rounds of standard NATO ammunition to the chest and then 5 seconds later be back at peak physical condition, does not, and I repeat NOT mean that it works like that in real life.

And THIS, people, is why everyone should just shut up about up about the President using Executive Order to expedite gun control laws. Never mind that one of that main arguments his detractors use (That it goes against the Constitution) is completely and totally wrong (Executive Order is part of the origional system of checks and balances developed in the origional draft of the US Constitution, for those who don't know), this case shows how much we need new laws.

His children will forever grow up hating guns.

And when people ask them why?

They say that their father killed himself with a 38 cal while trying to prove that guns are safe.

...

Taking money in for bets, do people laugh at the irony or support the children?

A Smooth Criminal:
His children will forever grow up hating guns.

And when people ask them why?

They say that their father killed himself with a 38 cal while trying to prove that guns are safe.

...

Taking money in for bets, do people laugh at the irony or support the children?

READ.

He was 18.

Technically a kid himself (Fuck what the law says. When you're 18 you're the same person you were at 17. Just a year older and able to watch porn legally).

Pointing a gun at yourself voluntarily is a measure of stupidity that disregards the safety of the individual gun. It does not prove anything that he died from it except that the gun works as described.

Brainpaint:

A Smooth Criminal:
His children will forever grow up hating guns.

And when people ask them why?

They say that their father killed himself with a 38 cal while trying to prove that guns are safe.

...

Taking money in for bets, do people laugh at the irony or support the children?

READ.

He was 18.

Technically a kid himself (Fuck what the law says. When you're 18 you're the same person you were at 17. Just a year older and able to watch porn legally).

Is it that hard to add the word 'hypothetical'?

I reckon this was suicide.

And that he was an anti gun guy and he decided his final action would be to make pro gun people look stupid.

Also, to the Americans being butthurt about people making "Americans are stupid" remarks, you have to realise, these levels of stupidity are rarely heard of outside of the USA.

How many people have died as a result of playing a video game?

tippy2k2:
Firearms are safe as long as you follow the rules about handling them:

generals3:
He broke a vital rule which any person with a firearm should know by heart:

Always consider any weapon as charged. The fact some people who obviously disregard one (or more) of the 4 basic rules can get firearms is worrying to say the least.

QFT

Rule #1: Always assume that the weapon you are handling is loaded. This is the very first thing that you are told whenever you do anything with a gun (I've never taken the classes for I do not own a firearm myself but this is always Rule #1 on courses/ranges).

I think it's a given that he was aware it was loaded. It doesn't do much to make a point about gun safety if you're using an unloaded gun... Of course, I'm not sure exactly what point he was going for, clearly it didn't work out...

Hardcore_gamer:
What are your thoughts on this guy's claim that this proves guns are safer?

You make it sound like he was advocating for gun ownership in the gun control debate when really it says he was only trying to convince his family that he was handling the weapon safely by keeping one round out of the firing chamber. Obviously that wasn't the case, but by the article alone, he wasn't making some bold statement about gun safety.

miketehmage:
I reckon this was suicide.

And that he was an anti gun guy and he decided his final action would be to make pro gun people look stupid.

Also, to the Americans being butthurt about people making "Americans are stupid" remarks, you have to realise, these levels of stupidity are rarely heard of outside of the USA.

"May 5th, 2011, Brisbane Australia: 22-year-old man decided to try his hand at planking. Stretched himself out face-down on the railing of a seven story building and attempted to take a photograph, only to lose his balance and fall to his death."

Stupidity isn't regional.

In fact, believing it would be is just another form of stupidity.

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Evil Smurf:
How many people have died as a result of playing a video game?

i dunno what you're getting at but at least half a dozen that i've heard of at one time or another.

mostly Koreans...

My state just can't seem to stay the hell out of the lime light lately.

Just earlier I read about that crazy man from FAU calling the man who sheltered some of the Newtown children a liar, now this.

I don't own a gun and probably never will, but I do have a few friends who do and they're very strict about gun safety, most of which has been covered by others in this thread.

All I can really muster is an "are you fucking kidding me?" There is no excuse to ever point a gun at anything you don't intend to fire on. Ever. You point it up in the air, down at the ground, and that's ALL, unless you mean to put a bullet in something.

Captcha - "no way"

Better learn some gun safety before you shoot yourself too, Captcha.

hazabaza1:
Anyone who puts a gun to their head and doesn't remove all the bullets for certain first is either suicidal or a fucking idiot.
Pretty easy to see which column this guy fits into.

Anyone who puts a gun to their head, PERIOD, is a fucking idiot.
There is always the chance someone made a mistake somehow, no matter how "sure you are that it's empty cos I checked earlier."

Ken Sapp:
If I were in Rome watching the gladiatorial games I would have likely been cheering at the bloodshed as I would have been raised in a society where that was not wrong.

I don't even know what to say, you think it's just a matter of petty convention and not a fundamental part of humanity to inherently care about the extreme suffering inflicted on others.

I'm done, you're done. You're out of it, you've voided all insight you could possibly have into matters of ethics.

Treblaine:

Ken Sapp:
If I were in Rome watching the gladiatorial games I would have likely been cheering at the bloodshed as I would have been raised in a society where that was not wrong.

I don't even know what to say, you think it's just a matter of petty convention and not a fundamental part of humanity to inherently care about the extreme suffering inflicted on others.

I'm done, you're done. You're out of it, you've voided all insight you could possibly have into matters of ethics.

Ethics are a human construct not an inherent part of human nature. They are a learned behavior, not one that every person is born with. If "ethical" behavior were a fundamental part of humanity we would have no need of a system of laws and courts to inform people of what is right and wrong and to punish those who act unethically within our society.

Evil Smurf:
How many people have died as a result of playing a video game?

Less than have died in the past 50 days from Gun violence in a single country, that's for damn sure.

Baron von Blitztank:
How much do you wanna bet that somehow Mass Effect will get the blame for this?

How about Borderlands?

Hahahaha, oh wow.

I really dont know what to say. Its nice to see the world still has a sense of humor. Also, I'm a bit sad because someone will actually most likely use those images to argue something about games and violence.

TheDrunkNinja:

miketehmage:
I reckon this was suicide.

And that he was an anti gun guy and he decided his final action would be to make pro gun people look stupid.

Also, to the Americans being butthurt about people making "Americans are stupid" remarks, you have to realise, these levels of stupidity are rarely heard of outside of the USA.

"May 5th, 2011, Brisbane Australia: 22-year-old man decided to try his hand at planking. Stretched himself out face-down on the railing of a seven story building and attempted to take a photograph, only to lose his balance and fall to his death."

Stupidity isn't regional.

In fact, believing it would be is just another form of stupidity.

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Peace sign, bunny ears, fake weiner~~~~

It is sad that a simple mistake should have to have such a heavy price. He should have just put the gun to his foot or hand.

DayDark:
It is sad that a simple mistake should have to have such a heavy price. He should have just put the gun to his foot or hand.

Simple, he aimed at a body part he wasn't currently using. It makes perfect sense if you don't think about it.

Cette:

DayDark:
It is sad that a simple mistake should have to have such a heavy price. He should have just put the gun to his foot or hand.

Simple, he aimed at a body part he wasn't currently using. It makes perfect sense if you don't think about it.

Yeah, one could say that. it's just a pity he wont be able to learn from his mistake, 18 years old, that is just sad. So much potential snuffed for being young and stupid.

Anyway, it's interesting because it's obvious that it's impossible to keep guns out of the hands of irresponsible people. People who will either kill themselves or a family member or go on shooting rampages like Sandy Hook. I was never a big fan of the NRA, but their stance post Sandy Hook is horrible.

Even if you are one of those people who think they need an assault rifle to potentially defend themselves from the government, you should face the fact that an assault rifle is much more likely to be used by a madmen to kill civilians than to be used by a patriot defending himself from tyranny.

DayDark:
It is sad that a simple mistake should have to have such a heavy price. He should have just put the gun to his foot or hand.

No, you never point a loaded fire arm at anyone you don't want to shoot. You don't point it at their hand or their foot or their head. Or anywhere near them.

And you treat every fire arm like it's loaded. Even if you're sure there's no round in the chamber, you act like it could still kill someone.

So he should have let his pride take a hit and not tried to prove his stupid point (about leaving an empty chamber in the gun).

S_SienZ:

"May 5th, 2011, Brisbane Australia: 22-year-old man decided to try his hand at planking. Stretched himself out face-down on the railing of a seven story building and attempted to take a photograph, only to lose his balance and fall to his death."

Well certainly, that one instance proves things are equally as severe elsewhere!

His dad got killed in a home invasion and he clearly got a gun to protect himself. What we have here is a man who is both scared and stupid, not a good combo. Can none of the pro-guns people see that tighter regulation might not be such a terrible idea? I think it's safe to say this man should not have been allowed a gun. What if he'd proved his point by pointing it at somebody else? He is not just a danger to himself.

DayDark:
It is sad that a simple mistake should have to have such a heavy price.

But that's the #1 truth about guns.

TheDrunkNinja:

miketehmage:
I reckon this was suicide.

And that he was an anti gun guy and he decided his final action would be to make pro gun people look stupid.

Also, to the Americans being butthurt about people making "Americans are stupid" remarks, you have to realise, these levels of stupidity are rarely heard of outside of the USA.

"May 5th, 2011, Brisbane Australia: 22-year-old man decided to try his hand at planking. Stretched himself out face-down on the railing of a seven story building and attempted to take a photograph, only to lose his balance and fall to his death."

Stupidity isn't regional.

In fact, believing it would be is just another form of stupidity.

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Showing me one case outside of the USA does not discredit my statement that these cases are "rarely" found outside of the USA.

If I had said "never" then it would have. But alas, I didn't.

miketehmage:
Showing me one case outside of the USA does not discredit my statement that these cases are "rarely" found outside of the USA.

If I had said "never" then it would have. But alas, I didn't.

Yes I realize. Would you like me to show you more cases?

Of course you wouldn't. It wouldn't matter to you because your claim is inarguable and rooted completely in conjecture and opinion. Your comment is a vague, generalized statement that cannot be proven or disproven. The reason why I chose to show you only one case was to briefly and concisely prove a point (i.e., stupidity is not regional), not a presentation of evidence. I dispute the logic of it because it's a flawed and easily debatable, even if it's impossible to prove or disprove.

South Korea alone is a treasure-trove of stupid deaths that would be enough to dispute your claim that America is the height of stupidity. There, something you can't disprove and I can't prove. We can only argue. Indefinitely and in circles.

I vote not doing so, personally.

tippy2k2:
Firearms are safe as long as you follow the rules about handling them:

generals3:
He broke a vital rule which any person with a firearm should know by heart:

Always consider any weapon as charged. The fact some people who obviously disregard one (or more) of the 4 basic rules can get firearms is worrying to say the least.

QFT

Rule #1: Always assume that the weapon you are handling is loaded. This is the very first thing that you are told whenever you do anything with a gun (I've never taken the classes for I do not own a firearm myself but this is always Rule #1 on courses/ranges).

I think this is one of the underpinnings of the people against the current American gun laws. People are allowed to own weapons that are extremely lethal in anyone's hands, but are not made to undertake appropriate safety lessons or training to understand and respect what they have, and that's before we get onto weapons that are modified versions of military weapons.

Rights come with responsibilities, something people shouting about their rights tend to forget.

Maybe I'm overthinking it or trying to find a better reason for this, but with his dad having been recently killed with a gun and the recent incident in Connecticut and the national conversation it started (well, restarted), maybe he didn't want to live any more and decided to go out making a statement-- or I guess giving a demonstration about guns and their safety.
It's also possible he didn't want to live and thought, for some reason, that that would be a funny way to end his life.

Natural selection in action.

I have the sneaking suspicion that he was doing something he'd read about without understanding the mechanics of the revolver; leaving the hammer resting on an empty cylinder. It provides a second tier of safety against a possible accidental discharge of the weapon above and beyond the actual safety itself.

Of course, apparently he forgot to read how a double-action trigger works.

That's really sad. =(

Well, that sucks. My condolences to the family.

This reminds me of people that died in the safari park.
a couple stepped out of the car 1 to sit with the rest of their family (including their grandchild) who were on car 2.
But the thing was, they decided to do that in the middle of the lion area (or tigers. I forgot which).
So, they got attacked and chewed on in front of their family.

After reading the news, I thought, "Damn, their grand children are going to ask how they died, and the parents will tell their children, your grandparents died because they got attacked by a lion. In JAPAN."

Eugh at Darwin and Natural selection quips :/

Well went ahead and read the actual news article, with his familiy and friends commenting and getting into "pleasant chats" with strangers telling them how retarded and stupid their son is and how he deserved it for being stupid, feel doubly bad now.

Whats worst is the kid had recently been a victim of double tragedy, seeing one of his parents killed in front of him then having the other die of cancer... Then this happens. And people on the net just go "lol darwinism" and laugh whilst feeling slightly superior about their own existence. Meh i think il get off the internet for now.

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