Indonesian mother kills son over 'small penis'

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An Indonesian woman drowned her nine-year-old son in the bath, claiming she was worried that his "small penis" would affect his prospects for the future, a police spokesman said Thursday.

The 38-year-old woman from the capital Jakarta told police her son had had a small penis prior to being circumcised, but that it appeared to shrink further after the operation, police spokesman Rikwanto, who goes by one name, told AFP.

"She told police investigators that she killed him as he would have a bleak future with his small penis," Rikwanto said.

"She drowned her son in a bathtub filled with water. She then dressed him and laid him on a bed. After that, she went to a nearby police office to report her crime."

Rikwanto said the woman was fully conscious of what she had done, but police ordered a psychological test to assess her mental condition.

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/indonesian-mother-kills-son-over-small-penis-091437371.html

I have heard a lot of stupid reasons to murder your own children, but this one takes the cake.

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No words....There is just....that may be the worst excuse for murder I have ever read.

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Just...what? I'm afraid I can't muster up another reaction to that blatant stupidity.

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She kills her kid because she is worried his penis would damage future prospects so she drowned him and turned herself in?

404, logic not found.

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I couldn't help but laugh, to be honest. It's just so utterly ridiculous a story.

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I wonder how some people get out of the bedroom in the morning, I mean, there are doors in the way, complex stuff.

Woah woah woah... Now lets not be too judgemental here... Just exactly how small are we talking here?

But seriously... Yeah that's pretty terrible, I feel like a terrible person for laughing at the absurdity.

OhJohnNo:
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Heh, I loved that music video.

In all seriousness, that woman needs serious frontier psychiatry.

Some awesome reaction images on here I must say.

But yeah, that's just messed up.

Well, drowning him is definitely going to affect his future prospects.

Some people just don't know how to logic.

Well... I hope to God she dies horribly in the near future.

Are prisons over there as bad as prisons elsewhere can be?

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This reminds me of that Houston woman and mother of 5 children who drowned all of them, dressed them, and put them to bed. She was first found guilty of murder--then when the case was appealed (and out of the media spotlight) she was quietly recognized as being bug-shit nuts and put into psychiatric care.

My brother's a paranoid schizophrenic. Trust me, I know crazy. It's when they THINK that they know what they're doing when YOU know that you're dealing with a REAL crazy person.

You know. She reported herself to the police . I mean , she's apparently all there in her head , just she didn't want to be known as the mother of a son with a small penis . Then again you can't really tell when you 9 if you're going to have a big penis , can you?

So she drowned her son because she didn't think he could ever get a woman wet?

So, so glad that woman is not my mother. I'd have never stood a chance.

Still, funny as the circum... must avoid pun, must avoid pun...stances surrounding this story are, a child was actually murdered by his mother, which is fucking terrible.

I am very sad for reading this.
I don't know how she acted with this kind of "logical step", but no one have right to take a life, especially if this life is from a small child.

She sounds mentally ill rather than stupid.

You don't murder your nine year old child that methodically and calmly out of stupidity

The poor child.

Colour-Scientist:
She sounds mentally ill rather than stupid.

You don't murder your nine year old child that methodically and calmly out of stupidity

The poor child.

If she was mentally ill i don't think she would have calmly walked into the police station to turn herself in . But i'm not expert on crazy people.

Cool story, but if all mothers thought this way there would be no Asian men left.

/kidding

Woman commits horrible crime... must be mentally unstable. How interesting.

She can get psychiatric help will rotting in prison for first degree murder.

I'm pretty sure this is a case of batshitus crazyitis instead of regular old idiocy.

krazykidd:

Colour-Scientist:
She sounds mentally ill rather than stupid.

You don't murder your nine year old child that methodically and calmly out of stupidity

The poor child.

If she was mentally ill i don't think she would have calmly walked into the police station to turn herself in . But i'm not expert on crazy people.

Actually, I don't think a normal person would have done that. For what it's worth, I'm betting on some mental problem - she clearly shows odd thinking patterns.

Ickorus:
Well, drowning him is definitely going to affect his future prospects.

Some people just don't know how to logic.

Damn you and your avatar! I tried smashing that bug three times.

OT: I've got to say, that's the most ridiculous reason for murder I've read to date.

Sometimes a license to parent really does sound like a good idea...

R.Nevermore:
Woah woah woah... Now lets not be too judgemental here... Just exactly how small are we talking here?

Hey, if it was small enough he could've had a career in niche porn...(!)

Seriously, though...

krazykidd:
If she was mentally ill i don't think she would have calmly walked into the police station to turn herself in . But i'm not expert on crazy people.

Oh, you'd be surprised... the most psychotic of people tend to be the calmest when 'doing the act' irrespective of what said act is...

Now... here's a question to all the post-pubescent males of the Escapist: how big was your dick when you were nine? I'll bet it's a fair bit smaller than it is now.

DevilWithaHalo:
Woman commits horrible crime... must be mentally unstable. How interesting.

She can get psychiatric help will rotting in prison for first degree murder.

People would think the same if the father had done it.

You bring this kind of stuff up in every thread of this nature, what's your problem?

krazykidd:

Colour-Scientist:
She sounds mentally ill rather than stupid.

You don't murder your nine year old child that methodically and calmly out of stupidity

The poor child.

If she was mentally ill i don't think she would have calmly walked into the police station to turn herself in . But i'm not expert on crazy people.

Really?
I'm inclined to think the opposite. She killed her child, dressed him and calmly turned herself in, it doesn't seem like the behaviour of someone who is totally mentally sound.

Well , size does matter.
Guess this proves it once and for all.

I'm pretty sure most 9 year olds have small dicks.

Poor kid, He died and will be remembered as the Kid with the small dick.

Soo....She thought he would have no future, so she killed him, making him have absolutely no future?

I....Words. I don't have any for this kind of sickening insanity. >_<

Seriously.

My take on it is that she's freakin nuts. At the very least she's got severe sociopathy/psychopathy. You just CAN'T calmly murder a child you brought into the world yourself in cold blood and not be insane. There's a natural instinct to protect your children. X_X

It is Indonesia, what the hell did she use for comparison?

Joking, joking. That is pretty fucking awful actually.

Colour-Scientist:

DevilWithaHalo:
Woman commits horrible crime... must be mentally unstable. How interesting.

She can get psychiatric help will rotting in prison for first degree murder.

People would think the same if the father had done it.

You bring this kind of stuff up in every thread of this nature, what's your problem?

krazykidd:

Colour-Scientist:
She sounds mentally ill rather than stupid.

You don't murder your nine year old child that methodically and calmly out of stupidity

The poor child.

If she was mentally ill i don't think she would have calmly walked into the police station to turn herself in . But i'm not expert on crazy people.

Really?
I'm inclined to think the opposite. She killed her child, dressed him and calmly turned herself in, it doesn't seem like the behaviour of someone who is totally mentally sound.

Just out of curiosity , what would you think a normal person would do after killing their child ? Assuming that you don't think that anyone who kills is automatically mentally unsound . And for the record i personally think normal people can kill and still be mentally sound .

In the US, doctors who decide a infant's penis is too small just perform surgery making the infant a girl.
So we don't have murdering in a tub (though sometimes we have that, too), but we do have involuntary surgery on an infant's genitalia because we don't deal well with the complexity and variety of nature.

krazykidd:

Just out of curiosity , what would you think a normal person would do after killing their child ? Assuming that you don't think that anyone who kills is automatically mentally unsound . And for the record i personally think normal people can kill and still be mentally sound .

I think normal people can commit murder, of course. I just have trouble believing that a parent can kill their own child (who isn't a newborn) over a totally arbitrary reason and not freak the fuck out afterwards. I mean, unless she went into shock but she had obviously thought about killing him, it didn't seem like a spur of the moment thing.

Colour-Scientist:

DevilWithaHalo:
Woman commits horrible crime... must be mentally unstable. How interesting.

She can get psychiatric help will rotting in prison for first degree murder.

People would think the same if the father had done it.

You bring this kind of stuff up in every thread of this nature, what's your problem?

That's a fair question, but one I can't answer in depth here at the moment. I will say that I disagree with your hypothesis, and would welcome the evidence you possess to support it. In general, I find that public reactions to various crimes somewhat predictable from a psychological element, one that others have taken the time to research and build various campaigns to correct. Some of the many examples can be found here; http://www.socialinquiry.org/articles/mak-esas-8.pdf and here; http://www.law.virginia.edu/pdf/vajournal/coughlin.pdf and here; http://www.ukdissertations.com/dissertations/criminology/female-offenders.php (trying to be fair about this)

I could also suggest looking over another Escapist thread; (warning, this is in the R&P section) http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/528.402038-University-Student-Faces-Expulsion-For-Speaking-Out-Against-Her-Rapist?time=1362090088#16591088 where I pointed out my surprise at the reaction, which does somewhat support your hypothesis, but I have only to point to the commentary in the linked articles that supports the generalization that perceptions (including excusing the perpetrator and acceptance of accusation) skew based on the gender (admittedly among other factors) of the victim & perpetrator.

Consider the psychology involved and the statistical support for it; I find it strange that you may (or may not) find fault in the mere notion that I point it out where it seems most appropriate. Why do you feel it is not worth the mention?

MammothBlade:
Cool story, but if all mothers thought this way there would be no Asian men left.

/kidding

Dammit, ninja'd on an Asian penis joke...

OT: Yeah, that's pretty horrible and messed up on many levels. I'd hate to be that woman right now.

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