Things you will always defend.

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This may be a topic that is close to the hearts of some escapists but while looking at photo about video games and someone came on saying this

All you gamers are one day going to get the coded word that will awaken the "sleeper" that has been programmed into your tiny little brains, as a result of the endless hours you have spent listening to the subliminal messages that all these violent and mind numbing games have. You will then be unleashed on to an unsuspecting and unprepared world, where you will reap havoc raping, pillaging and plundering all over the countryside. The only saving grace is that because of the years of game playing, your actual physical condition, lack of balance and outdoor real life experience will so handicap you, that your attempt at world domination will probably fail. Ha

At first I thought it might have been a troll but I looked at his profile and unfortunately he appears to be a real person.

Now, I'm not normally the kind of person to post on random photos on facebook but this is one of the few things I will openly speak out about and defend. It got me to thinking about what else I will always try to defend when it is attacked. I will always try to defend things like video games and sports because these are two major parts of my life. I am most likely to defend something else though if someone is ignorantly attacking something like the above "video games are evil" comments.

So, what about everyone else? Are there certain topics you will always try to defend if they are attacked?

Uh... yeah, that was probably someone trolling. Real people can troll too you know.

If that was really his view then he wasn't worth arguing with.

Although, yeah... I imagine that any attempt to conquer the world with an army of gamers would go pretty poorly. The enemy would soon learn to attack as soon as a new Zero Punctuation video goes up. Then they'd cut off our internet and wait until we went catatonic.

I'll always try to defend women's rights and feminism IRL, I think some sections of the Internet aren't worth the energy.

There're a lot of other things but that's just the main one that comes to mind.

I get pretty defensive about my degrees as most people seem to think that they're useless which isn't true.
History graduate with a career in the works, ftw!

Freedom of sexuality, namely homosexuality and incest (I haven't yet formed a concrete opinion regarding bestiality. That's something I'm still thinking about). I really hate to see people oppressed based upon such a personal thing (where they often have no choice over) as their sexuality. Regarding marriage, it's hard for me to campaign for marriage rights as I have no care for marriage in any form at all (though if asked, I'd say yeah, go for it). To defend this topic for me, is mostly a tolerance and legal thing. I'd defend them so it became commonly accepted and legal by the general populace, rather than heatedly debated or, in some corners of the world, even outright despised.

Edit: I know this is probably going to be a very common answer on this forum, a kind of preaching-to-the-choir scenario. But still, it's one of the few topics I can think of where my stance would never change.

Gay rights would be a big one for me. The usefulness of science and critical thinking in schools. Really, the importance of proper education in general.

That dude needs a bridge to live under and a tinfoil hat to go with his delusional paranoia.

The right to my opinion i guess ? Because i tend to saythings like " i feel uncomfortable around homosexuals "( among other things ) and people read that to mean i am homophobic . But i'm not . I have no problems with gay people , in fact , gay men are some of the nicest people i ever met ( no so much lesbians but whatever ) , but they make me real uncomfortable. Seeing two men together makes me cringe . That being said , homosexuals are people too , and they can do whatever they like, where evere they like , when ever they like . It's my burden to bare not theirs .

The medium of comics. It's just as good a medium as movies, literature, music, etc.

Also gay rights. No explanation needed.

Also feminism, which to me means opposing unfair gender discrimination of all kinds.

That post in the OP has to someone trolling. It was slightly too comedic to be some nutjob's genuine opinion. I think so anyway.

Well I would defend anime in the occasional times it comes up on this site, people seem less tolerable of it in general on 'Scapist for some reason. If somebody seriously calls anime a "genre" again...

Oh and all those people going on about art and gaming are going at it the wrong way, it's not "games are art" which can be countered so hard by just pointing at CoD or similar because that's an absolute statement. It's "games have the capacity to be art" which is more accurate and easy to prove by pointing at Bastion or some such.

I would defend some of the feminism shit but really, it's not worth the effort and since I can understand both sides of the argument 99% of the time I would rather not pick a side and risk a Flame War so I don't even post on those threads.

Annnnnnd as a simple observation, how come nobody thinks of Homophobia as a y'know, genuine phobia? Like people have Arachnophobia and such and they can't help feeling deathly afraid of spiders even if they KNOW said spider can't hurt them. Nope just offhandedly dismiss people with "oh it's 2013, stop being such a homophobe lol"

I'm just throwing random shit out now so imma stop. Being extremely understanding of a lot of different opinions and non-judgemental to a fault is tough man XP

-members of my family other than myself

-nuclear power (in general, I will not deny there are examples of stupidity)

-principles of legal and ethical equality

-modern human innovation (in the context of people bemoaning the "good old days", conveniently forgetting just how badly that same time period sucked for those living through it)

I will always defend my right as a human being to sometimes oppose the views and tactics of feminists and defend the rights of men. It seems that anyone on this site that doesn't always agree with feminism is attacked as a "Evil MRA" or a misogynist, so I'm going to defend people who have legitimate oppositions to the feminist movement. Feminist literally has most of the internet to defend them, they can cry for help and get it in so many places, yet the opposite will get banned or dismissed as a wife-beating woman hater. Being a feminist is seen as a good thing in most areas of the internet, whereas being a MRA (can we find another word for this? MRA makes us sound like a terrorist group) is seen as a terrible, misogynistic thing that should be stopped.

I will always try to defend the truth. Have gotten a bad rep in a few places because I didn't tow the "company line" due the facts.

Freedom of speech, freedom to not have your human rights infringed, freedom of sexuality (bar child molestation and non-consensual harm), freedom of gender identity, LGBT rights, gay marriage (even though I think marriage, straight or gay, as a concept itself is pretty stupid, it doesn't mean that everyone else has to) women's rights, porn as a potential art form (trust me, there is some pretty artistic porn out there; you're just looking in the wrong places), anti-censorship, science, truth, Atheism, Anti-Theism, the right to end your own life (or have someone else end yours if you can't yourself), abortion, manga/anime, cats, animal rights, anti-animal testing, etc.

The Wykydtron:
Annnnnnd as a simple observation, how come nobody thinks of Homophobia as a y'know, genuine phobia? Like people have Arachnophobia and such and they can't help feeling deathly afraid of spiders even if they KNOW said spider can't hurt them. Nope just offhandedly dismiss people with "oh it's 2013, stop being such a homophobe lol"

Because most people that have arachnophobia don't actually hate spiders. There's nothing inherently wrong with having an uncontrollable aversion to seeing two gay men kissing (because, let's face it, it's not something you see every day, and it's going to take a while longer for everyone to get used to male-male affection in ways other than wrestling - as long as you're aware of just why you feel awkward about it and don't say, "Hey, guys, stop that because I feel weird and my not-feeling-weird is the most important thing right now"), but when it gets the point where you're actively campaigning for legislation against their right to marriage, then there's something definitely wrong.

I have ophidiophobia (fear of snakes), but I'm not going around telling everyone to kill any snake that they see because "Remember that story of a serpent tempting Eve to eat the apple and then God kicked her and Adam from Paradise down to Earth? Yeah, that's going to happen again if we don't stop these darned land eels from pushing us into Hell!"

LGBT rights, feminism, comic books and video games as legitimate mediums, MLP as a legitimate show anyone can watch regardless of age...

Pro Wrestling, video games, LOTR, freedom of speech, Disturbed, and of course, my rights in general.
Probably tons of other things that escape my mind at the moment.

I will always defend plastic surgery, anime, manga and dogs.
Anything else I could care less about.

Angie7F:
Anything else I could care less about.

Couldn't care less about. Sorry, I'm a bit of a Grammar Nazi.

Stuff that's common sense like human rights, animal rights etc.

Stupid stuff that I will defend:

-Baldur's gate is best game.
-Fluttershy is best pony and MLP is a s good show
-I am the best LoL player :3

- My lawn. Seriously, so many whippersnappers abound.
- The "Don't be a dickhead" rule.
- The SSC rule.

Sport games

It drives me absolutely insane to go onto these forums sometimes to see all the cheap shots made against sport games. No, they are not just "stat updates" every year and my opinion of the speaker plummets every time I hear someone that statement come out of someone's mouth/keyboard. It's perfectly reasonable for someone to not enjoy sport games but to look down upon me because I do is ri-fucking-diculous.

I'd fight to the death for my right to arm bears.

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krazykidd:
The right to my opinion i guess ? Because i tend to saythings like " i feel uncomfortable around homosexuals "( among other things ) and people read that to mean i am homophobic . But i'm not . I have no problems with gay people , in fact , gay men are some of the nicest people i ever met ( no so much lesbians but whatever ) , but they make me real uncomfortable. Seeing two men together makes me cringe . That being said , homosexuals are people too , and they can do whatever they like, where evere they like , when ever they like . It's my burden to bare not theirs .

I'm glad you posted this, because it's quite an important point. You're precisely right; that you recognise that it's your burden is the only really important part. My old roommate from uni admitted that at first, he found it a little uncomfortable being roommates with me (we had moved into the same room on purpose, wanted to share with eachother)-- but said that it took about a week of exposure to get over it. After that, he said it felt utterly normal to him, and I know he was being truthful; because we were housemates for two more years, and I got to know him very well.

And his initial feeling of aversion didn't make him a homophobe; the fact that he recognised it was his problem, and worked to overcome it, make him precisely the opposite.

Anyway, OT: Video games as art, comic-books as art, and the validity and scope of the scientific method for almost everything (if not everything).

tippy2k2:
Sport games

NCAA Football was always a lot of fun. I liked breaking the games by making quarterbacks who could outrun every other player on the field and then optioning my way up for 80 yard touchdowns.

The Wykydtron:

Annnnnnd as a simple observation, how come nobody thinks of Homophobia as a y'know, genuine phobia? Like people have Arachnophobia and such and they can't help feeling deathly afraid of spiders even if they KNOW said spider can't hurt them. Nope just offhandedly dismiss people with "oh it's 2013, stop being such a homophobe lol"

I know Relish already hit this point, but I'm just going to iterate that while I have arachnophobia, I don't actively hate spiders and try to infringe their rights as arachnids in my home. Sure, if I get a creepy crawly one hanging out in my personal space I'll give it a good whack, but that goes for any insect or arachnid, as it would stand for most people regardless of their sexuality.

EDIT: To clarify a little, 'homophobia' as a normal phobia, I'm basically fine with. I don't care if someone just feels uncomfortable seeing two men kissing or something. But that's not generally how 'homophobia' as a word is used.

OT: Reboots and spinoffs.

I can't tell you how many times I saw people hating DmC and Metal Gear Rising because of "how different" they were from previous games in their overarching franchises. Spinoffs in particular get an undeserved bad wrap. If it weren't for spinoffs, Persona would never have existed. Devil May Cry wouldn't exist, because it was originally going to be a spinoff of Resident Evil. And then people do things like lump Shadow the Hedgehog into the greater Sonic franchise as an example of why the games suck. Oh, that brings me to another one.

Sonic the Hedgehog.

Especially around here he seems to be a very popular punching bag, even though the last two (or three, depending on your point of view) 3D games have been pretty darn good.

And World of Warcraft, which is constantly decried by people who stopped playing years ago or people who never played it in the first place and just hate it because of its reputation. You know, mostly just games in general, to be honest. Even here, on a gaming website, I feel endlessly outnumbered by the sheer volume of negativity being constantly thrown at video games.

Well here are some words to live by in this thread:

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it": Shin-Goji.

That said, FUCK YOU REPO! HATERS! THAT MOVIE'S GREAT AND IF YOU DON'T THINK SO YOU CAN FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR TWILIGHT!

Myself? Selfish as hell but I really can't think of anything that I will defend to my dying breath (especially as I'm open to the chance my viewpoint is completely wrong).

Towers in Dota maybe? :D

For me, it's equality. You're Human? You deserve the same rights as any other Human around. Though, bein' human isn't as great as bein' a Tent... We have more rights. You should be a Tent like me, yanno?

Seriously though, call me liberal, but everyone deserves an equal chance. Shouldn't matter if they like screamo, like kissing the same gender, or what color they are. It's positively fucked how people can single a group of people out and cast them out and strip their rights. It's even more fucked when I catch myself doing it.

Gay rights, animal rights(especially dogs!) and both a strong social safety nett and decent healtcare and lastly (the dutch) monarchy. Also the importance, or at least vallue of learning history. Mostly because its a big passion of mine.

Gaming related: Gaming itself when the inbred media morons start blaming it for the next shooting, jrpg's and kid icarus uprising

On a serious note, freedom of expression and freedom to do, well anything really, as long as you aren't harming another sapient being. I really dislike authority figures telling me what to do and so I'd be a hypocrite to advocate enforcing anything more than minimal controls on people.

On a less serious note... the British monarchy, I've always loved the history and traditions of Kings and Queens and I genuinely believe that a monarchy is the best choice for a ceremonial head of state. For Queen and Country I'll defend Her Majesty tirelessly!

1. Social Equality
2. Universal Healthcare (ie. single payer system)
3. Universal Education(including Post-Secondary)
4. Civilian ownership of firearms
5. Science
6. Video games as a legitimate entertainment medium

-Human rights (especially equality)
-The value of post-secondary education beyond the idea of 'university as job training'
-My various conclusions in my area of study (military history)
-The adequate funding of public healthcare, education and post-secondary education systems (I'm Canadian)
-Defending gaming (or anything really) when it is wrongfully attacked by the ignorant

Two key things in gaming I will always defend:

Pokemon for it's originality, fun, simplicity, skill, and additions.

Halo for it's originality, fun, simplicity, skill, and additions.

Both titles are always hammered for certain aspects that piss me off. Pokemon is "bad because I hate this design" or "Pokemon died at this generation" and I fucking hate hearing that. It's people who dismiss something without even bothering to try it that piss me off. Then there is Halo which gets flak for updating it's original formula and somehow being a "Grey, brown, gritty, generic shooter" at which case I say to that person, "Fuck you, are you colorblind or something? the Halo franchise remains one of the most colorful shooters to date, not to mention it stands proud and tall as something far more different than anything on the market to this day.

In my life:

God existing
Sonic 2006 is a bad game
Animal rights
Human rights
Gun laws need not existing

I'd like to think I'm rational enough not to defend something regardless of context and the situation.

But there's probably several issues I'd still kneejerk on and defend no matter what.

Stuff like game violence not causing real violence, human rights applying to everyone even if they're part of a minority, social policies such as universal healthcare and education as well as unemployement grants (or whatever they're called, getting money from the government if you're down on your luck).

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

-Equal Rights
-A person's right to do what they want with their body
-Ladygeeks rights to express themselves and exist in the wider community without people being all... how they get.
-Adorable kittens. This may extend to all adorableness.
-People being allowed to like childish things & things outside their gender roles.
-Teen parents. I know a lot of them, and I've been treated like one and they get judged way too harshly.

Lots of things are close to my heart, really. I'm a big bleeding heart.

BeerTent:
For me, it's equality. You're Human? You deserve the same rights as any other Human around. Though, bein' human isn't as great as bein' a Tent... We have more rights. You should be a Tent like me, yanno?

Seriously though, call me liberal, but everyone deserves an equal chance. Shouldn't matter if they like screamo, like kissing the same gender, or what color they are. It's positively fucked how people can single a group of people out and cast them out and strip their rights. It's even more fucked when I catch myself doing it.

mostly this. there are too many damn shades of grey elsewhere that it is hard for me to define what i would truly always defend, besides the above statement.

oh and let me see if i can find this picture that i like....

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an over exaggeration to be sure, but i still think it applies, i can't tell you how much parts of school i absolutely loathed because of shit like this. I really hate our education system right now and how it's setup.

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