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Copy Clerk Posts: 125 Joined: 5 Jan 2008 | |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1710 Joined: 2 Jan 2008 | I hope this doesn't come out as harsh, but if you're hearing disembodied screams you have a full blown case of psycho. I don't believe in ghosts-- in fact I think that people that say they do are either insane or full of nine kinds of shit. I've seen my share of bogus "Haunted House" shows on T.V. and, being the forum troll that I am, read countless of testimonials-- nothing has ever convinced me. But alas, it is difficult to disprove something like ghosts, as people will either hide behind the "well I saw one, so you're wrong" excuse or "well you can't prove they're not real, so nyah" excuse. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 51 Joined: 2 Dec 2007 | I would say a firm maybe. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1214 Joined: 9 Dec 2007 | No. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2275 Joined: 13 Sep 2007 | There are no ghosts. I grew up next to a graveyard. It was a shitty graveyard, all the graves were wooden crosses, people vandalised them often, and it was next to the ocean so the salt pretty much killed what little vegetation could have grown there. This was in Iqaluit(Capital of Nunavut, really far north), so im willing to say its probably the worst graveyard in Canada. However, even under these conditions, I have never witnessed anything that might be explained as spiritual unrest. Maybe massacres and unburied dead are more likely to cause ghosts then this, but ghosts sightings arent as common in Africa despite the many RECENT slaughters. As in 1408, the sightings are more common as a way to attract people to small towns after the highway that pumped money into the town gets moved. |
On the Record Posts: 6742 Joined: 10 Apr 2007 |
Or you're just a normal human that psyched yourself out to the point that you had an auditory hallucination ;-D Or some homeless people in your neighborhood found out about that legend and decided to move in, knowing they'd be left alone because they could chase any nosy people off with a high-pitched shriek. |
On the Record Posts: 5674 Joined: 2 Dec 2007 |
Did you make it out alive?! I would say no. But if I did see one I would quickly change my mine. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3236 Joined: 10 Nov 2007 | I don't "believe" in anything. Things can either be empirically verified, in which case they exist regardless of my belief in them, or they can't, which is indistinguishable from them not existing at all. "Ghosts" fall into the latter category. There is no empirical evidence for their existence. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2275 Joined: 13 Sep 2007 | Gloating Swine, that sounds like my philosophy for religion, but I make room for things I disbelieve. Ghosts are like Scientology for me, Id rather be wrong than go along with it. The odds are by far in my favour. |
Paperboy Posts: 23 Joined: 16 Dec 2007 | Ghosts, bullshit. |
Muckraker Posts: 320 Joined: 20 Dec 2007 | Its probaly me going insane but every now and then i here my name but can never find out whos saying it. Thus giving me some reason to beleive in the supernatural |
Paperboy Posts: 14 Joined: 11 Dec 2007 | Well, I did hear some weird stuff when I was at my cousin's along time ago and they even said there was some spooky stuff going on in their house ~ I think they blamed it on that they lived right beside the cemetery. But I don't necessary believe myself... although there are a lot of unexplained mysteries in this world, I wouldn't be surprised. |
The Man So Nice They Named Him Twice Posts: 782 Joined: 4 Jan 2008 | My mom and grandma, both extremely rational people, have experienced ghosts (separate occurrences). I thought I saw a ghost once. My mom sat in her bed for nearly 15 minutes watching and listening to the ghost of her grandfather talk to another unidentifiable ghost. My grandma felt and saw a depression on her mattress and felt a chill in the air while she was staying at a women's hostel during WW2. I saw a shadowy form floating midair while in bed staying at my grandparent's summer house. All three of these happenings have one thing in common: They were all during periods of the onset or interruption of sleep. I do not think ghosts exist. They are manifestations of suggestion, or waking dreams. I would suggest reading "The Demon Haunted World" by Carl Sagan for an excellent description of why our minds make us believe we see ghosts. |
On the Record Posts: 6742 Joined: 10 Apr 2007 |
There's actually plenty of empirical evidence that ghosts exist. There's plenty of sensory experience of what people call ghosts. It's actually a situation where the scientific paradigm of 'no ghosts' is way more coherent than the one of 'ghosts gone wild'. It's just that it's much simpler to explain the empirical experiences people have that some label ghosts as, say, hallucinations. It's really more a matter of Occam's Razor than any lack of empirical evidence. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2166 Joined: 23 Dec 2007 | No, but this does remind me of a joke. There once was a ghost appreciation convention and the MC kicked things off by asking the audience "Who here has seen a ghost?". All of them raised their hands The old man walked onto the stage to rapturous applause and the announcer asked him again "Would you like to tell us about your experience with the ghost?" |
On the Record Posts: 5674 Joined: 2 Dec 2007 | Don't ghosts shed ecoplasim? I'm just going off what I saw in Oblivion. Oblivion had vampires as well. Raise your hand if you believe in Vampires. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 105 Joined: 26 Sep 2007 | Ghost is a way of society, and people to explain things that they can't otherwise classify. In short, no. On vampires. |
Beat Writer Posts: 194 Joined: 14 Nov 2007 | Personally, I don't think ghosts are out there. What we experience, what we hear, see, smell, taste, and touch, are not absolutes. Everything we experience (or think we experience) is an interpretation of reality by our brains, that we do instictually. We interpret as we experience, that is how we view the world, and as a result we color the world as we see it. We're not lying when we do this, or even being disingenuous, it's how we work. What this comes down to is that not so much you hear what you want to hear or see what you want to see, but rather that you experience what you expect. Anyone who has ever spent time in an old house becomes familiar with it's sounds as the house settles. Creeks, thumps, popping noises, houses can make strange noises. If you want them to be someone trying to communicate to you in Morse Code, you could probably hear it. If you want to it to be the ghost upstairs rattling for her lost love, it can be that too. And if you want it to be the house just settling and aging, it can be that. What I'm getting at, is that everything is subjective, and that, call me a cynic, I don't believe what people tell me at face value. Again, not to say that they're liars or that they're crazy. But people see and hear things that are often not the case. As for my own experiences (which I have just fully discredited I think by talking about how flawed these can be) I haven't seen anything that I would explain as a ghost in all my years. I've spent time in some old houses, and been to some creepy places, but haven't seen any ghosts, heard any whispers or been sucked into any closets. Convincing tangible evidence I've also found wanting. I've seen photos that half the time look like bags in the wind or the infamous "orbs" which are usually just dust or other small things that reflect light when a camera flashes. Using equipment to measure Electromagnetic Fields as proof of ghosts can be almost comical on some television programs, with people constantly moving with them and being surprised to see jumps as they pass exposed wiring in a basement. So, with a lack of evidence and my feelings on the testimony of people, I wouldn't say I believe in ghosts. I love old places, I love the night, I love the quiet, and honestly I would love to know with absolute certainty that our existence didn't end when our neurons stop firing. But I've seen no evidence of it. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3776 Joined: 18 Dec 2007 | Havent any of you seen the matrix? Ghost are simply rouge programs that are hiding from deletion, jeez I thought everyone knew that. I answer to the OP question, I don't beleive in ghosts but I do beleive that something similar might exist. I've lost count of hom many times i would be walking (anywhere) and feel an icy touch on shoulder or spine and like someone else posted I have also heard people calling my name but had no idea who did. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 564 Joined: 8 Oct 2007 |
Not to be rude or anything, but that's more atheism than anything. At GrowlersAtSea: Not for my person views... |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1679 Joined: 29 Dec 2007 | I don't believe that there is any such thing as a ghost. People often experience something that they just can't explain. "I saw a ghost" is a reaction we're programmed from childhood to have whenever our rational minds cannot explain the situation. Vampires do exist, just nothing supernatural about them. They're just people who have a hobby for drinking blood. I'm pretty sure the History Channel did a report on them when they ran out of WWII shows. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2275 Joined: 13 Sep 2007 | Ectoplasm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectoplasm_%28paranormal%29#See_also And something cool I found on vampires, although I was unable to find anything on "Blood bars", where people who consider themselves vampires drink blood ,that I saw on CSI once. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhampir |
Copy Clerk Posts: 105 Joined: 26 Sep 2007 |
Funnily enough, thats were i heard of them to, thats when i realised why all those wierd people, hung around the place 3 houses away from mine. Yeah, i know i live in a sick neighbourhood. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1710 Joined: 2 Jan 2008 | Vampires are a completely different story-- they're out there. I actually make vampire hunting a hobby of sorts-- you don't often find one, but when you do it's always an exciting hunt. I've got a few of their bodies stored in my parent's garage (don't worry-- the corpses have been pierced through the heart with a crucifix made of garlic). |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 564 Joined: 8 Oct 2007 | That's... wonderful? HSIA. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 770 Joined: 7 Jan 2008 | I don't believe in ghosts. And IF ghosts exist, there would be probably no way to prove it, as there are just about always logical reasons behind ghost sightings. That said, i do not BELIEVE, however, i also do not deny the possiblity that such things may EXIST. However that would mean that it is unlikely that Ghosts, as we imagine them (!), do not exist. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1789 Joined: 14 Nov 2007 | Ghosts are totally real and if you don't believe me, you smell. Sorry, I know that came out a bit harsh but it's not my fault. A ghost told me to write that. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 816 Joined: 19 Dec 2007 | Ghosts, the afterlife, psychics, gods, reincarnation... It all boils down to five-year old logic from people who defy logical thought. "You can't prove that ghosts exist or not, so my opinion's still valid!" But the worst aspect of this crap? Derek Acorah. If I hear the words "residual energy" one more time, I'm hunting him down and gutting him in his sleep. Let's see if that spirit guide of his lets him know where his intestines have been relocated to. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 429 Joined: 17 Oct 2007 | Short answer: No. Also: Residual Energy. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 57 Joined: 16 Oct 2007 | eh no. Years of most haunted have turned the whole ghost thing into a joke. |
Paperboy Posts: 43 Joined: 2 Jan 2008 | Well, as there's no real physical evidence that disprooves ghosts I'd have to say yes, they exist. If you say there's no such thing as ghosts in your opinion that's okay, but if you announce that ghosts don't exist as a fact, your thick, because obviously, you can't proove that. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3236 Joined: 10 Nov 2007 |
Anecdotes are not considered evidence in any field of enquiry. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 429 Joined: 17 Oct 2007 |
There is a giant invisible elephant right behind you. You can't prove there's NOT one there, you might just not be able to see or smell or touch it. Doesn't mean it's not there, thus it has to be there. Flawless logic, really. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 564 Joined: 8 Oct 2007 |
Actually, invisible just means not visible, not intangible. Therefore, your logic fails and you required outside assistance from someone who does believe in ghosts to illustrate your point of trying to (sarcastically) say that ghosts do not exist if you were to correct yourself and say intangible or come up with another example. And it isn't an elephant, it's a giant mutant venus fly trap that only eats prehistoric dragonflies, get it right. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 788 Joined: 20 Sep 2007 | I rarely talk to any imaginary friends, be they gods or ghosts. I like to think it's a sign that I'm sane ~~ |
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Im just curious to know what everyone's thoughts are about ghosts. Do you think they are real? If so why?
I personally do. In my old neighborhood there was a house that was abandoned and put up for sale since the early 80s. No one ever bought the house and i grew up with stories about it being haunted and that wierd and unexplainable things would happen when ever someone would enter the house, thus why it was never sold. So one night durring summer break, when i was about 13 years old, me and two of my friends went to the house and tried to stay in there. About an hour later we had explored the house fully and were in a room on the second floor when suddenly the room got extremely cold. I could literally see my breath. One of my friends stated that she wanted leave and that she felt like something was watching her. Right as I began to calmer her down we hear a loud shriek. We ran out of the house and up the street aways. We looked back to see the door slam shut on its own. After that i never went back to the house, and as far as i know, neither have my friends. Thinking back on it, i dont count the door closing as something a ghost did, it could have been the wind or just the door closing on its own, but the scream, and the room suddenly going so cold to where you could see your breath I attribute to a ghost.