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On the Record
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Full blown anarchy; your country elects you to run them now. No existing government. What would you do?

Firstly, I would create a new form of government. What demcracy should be. No governed body ruled by the people, just the people ruled by each others morals. If it is wrong, don't do it. Of course there will be a police force, army and court system so that no chaos and evil resides. People will be judged on who they effect each others lives. If person A creates a problem with person B, be it murder or threats or simply making life hard, then it will be taken to the courts.

No man can say wheather or not it is right to pull the troops out of Iraq, only the soldiers themselves or Iraq can make that decision. Noone should rule over another person, each person should be free to live their lives to their own freewill.

A form of, well let's say the opposite of a totalitarian government, singalarian government where each person rules themsleves and noone else. People can learn off eachother and make life better. Laws will be decided on what is moral and what isn't. To define what is moral, ask the question, 'does it make life worse or better'?

Gone Gonzo
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A country ruled by peoples morals alone? Morals are relative things and your system might and probably will do alot of harm to minorities.

On the Record
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sammyfreak:
A country ruled by peoples morals alone? Morals are relative things and your system might and probably will do alot of harm to minorities.

I hope there won't be majorities or minorities. Of course I will keep all the old systems that worked from before. Money will still flow and libraries and trains will still be operational. Just some values need rethinking.

Religion will have no part in any say. Their morals will cloud things. They can preach and do what they want. If it is your choice to believe, then believe. Noone can tell you not to. As long as you're not harmfully influensing someones life (only if that someone says so) then there is no reason you can't do it.
You can walk on the grass if you want, unless someone is very opposed to you doing that. Accept the mater.
You can swim in croc infested waters. Signs were put up. It's your choice to disobay them, you suffer the consquences.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 29 Dec 2007

Ruling with morals is tricky, once you die, your successor might be a religious nut and then you've set them up for theocracy and blue laws will abound. I think it would be best if Purpletopia's laws followed this little rule:

Allow anyone to do anything so long as it didn't harm another person without their consent. This means you can only be imprisoned for a crime should your crime have personally damaged an individual or group of.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 13 Sep 2007

OK, this probably isn't ideal but I'd already made it and it's so easy to copy and paste. This is from my book that I only started yesterday and probably is never gonna get finished:

Sylians don't really have a form of government per se, but they get things done. Power isn't really valued among them, and because magic brings with it the leisure required to do so, especially when they have slaves, most Sylians spend most of their time in study of what they love instead of working, sort of like the greeks were like but to a greater extent.

This sort of atmosphere is bad for the more traditional governments they used to have, because the public is always well informed about everything and there was no real popular opinion except on the most basic things, and when the people inevitably disagreed with the current government about something, they would revolt. Eventually it got to the point where there were several revolutions going on constantly, and that in itself became their government. Different political "parties" all acting for what they believed was right without regard to the rest of the population, who they'd given up on. More and more of the warring "parties" appeared, and soon they became an accepted part of life.

Then they started to leave the political field. Associations similar to Unions began to set up, looking after the interests of the people who had a certain interest or occupation. Out of necessity, the conflicts started to become friendlier, and soon it was rare for anyone to die when there was a conflict except in certain necessarily violent "Clans". Now, nearly everyone is in a Clan, and there are millions, some with only a few members.

Press Junketeer
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Parliamentary system much like Canada's existing system, but with MPs chosen by lottery instead of ballot.

That's right, rule by random lot. No more corrupt elections, no more public funds spent to convince people to vote for Tweedledum instead of Tweedledee, no more political party aristocracies running things from behind the curtain, no more government by corporate campaign contributions.

Seriously, how could it be any worse than what we have now?

Gone Gonzo
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Razzle Bathbone:
Parliamentary system much like Canada's existing system, but with MPs chosen by lottery instead of ballot.

That's right, rule by random lot. No more corrupt elections, no more public funds spent to convince people to vote for Tweedledum instead of Tweedledee, no more political party aristocracies running things from behind the curtain, no more government by corporate campaign contributions.

Seriously, how could it be any worse than what we have now?

Funny as hell.

On the Record
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And I concur.

Infamous Scribbler
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Joined: 16 Jan 2008

Well, firstly I'd make a private police force of highly trained individuals who would handle primary affairs of state, and a smaller police force who makes sure that everything isn't total chaos. I would make it so that instead of money, people traded, people payed for services by doing the said person a service that you're specialised in. Say, if you were a baker and you needed new clothes, just whip around with a cake relevant to the cost of the clothes, or if you're an electrician you fix somebodies Television or cables and they provide you with say, Plumbing services or house renovation. This would virtually stamp out unemployment because people would have to get jobs, there would be more jobs to cope for the lack of money, and so on. Not the best of governments but I believe it could work.

Gone Gonzo
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I'm going for a dictatorship/empire. Rule with an iron fist. Give the working classes their beer and bread, whilst I holiday on my private yacht, twiddling my moustache. The economy will focus especially on things like tanks, fighter-jets and other military stuff. Whenever possible, a smaller neighbouring country shall be gobbled up whilst the UN isn't looking, and their resources used to help further the Age Of Change.

Yes, democracy gives the working man a say in government. Trouble is, it leads to a million voices all clamouring to be heard, and not a lot actually being achieved. At least I'll get stuff done.

Press Junketeer
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A Semi-Authoritarian Socialist Democratic Republic.

A brief synopsis would require me to mention it consist's of a council of leaders, hand picked and trained from the ripe age of 16. I would further explain to how the education system would be the backbone of the nation, rigorously training every boy, girl and otherwise to meet a very high academic standard. The semi-authoritarian part normally deters people immediatly from this idea, but I argue that it is only to grant the government the power to be able to react decisively in a moment of true crisis, as opposed to being bogged down by beaurocracy when action is needed.

Theres more to this, and I am more than happy to discuss any of this in private.

BANNED
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Joined: 9 Apr 2008

I'd start up the (insert country name here) Empire and rule with an iron fist. I would hire private military firms to train my soldiers and I would establish mining facilities in Siberia (completely automated) to provide materials and raw ore and minerals to build up an army. I would bring the country out of economic crisis and gain national support. I would then take over Hungary, Romania, the Czech Republic, Switzerland, and Holland by undermining their economies using their underworlds slowly infiltrating their governments. Once I am secretly in control of most of Europe, I dispatch an elite squad of saboteurs to Mexico. They would then bring nuclear weapons across the border and destroy Los Angeles, Sacramento, and San Fransisco. Due to the lack of able forces in America because of the "War on Terror," I would be able to dispatch more units and disable NORAD. The saboteurs on the ground would destroy the White House and the Washington Monument and I would launch Long Range tactical nuclear weapons from a "commandeered" facility in Iran. The U.S. would pour all of it's troops into Iran and Iraq leaving it even more defenseless. The UN would no doubt come to the rescue leaving England and Europe wide open. I would be able to hack into the navigational systems of a transport carrying the MOAB and use it to wipe out the Green Zone in Iraq. From there, World Domination would be only a matter of will. I would take over the United States as well as the Rest of the UN. China would be easily crippled by way of chemical warhead due to their densely populated cities. I would take over the world and rule with an iron fist. I would prohibit all acts of violence and all weapons aside from props and media. Videogames, movies, music, and television would be allowed. Sports containing potentially lethal acts would be allowed, but only if all members of the event sign a death waver issued by the government. I would use the peoples and resources of Earth to effectively research new power sources, more efficient batteries, space travel, nanoscience, and extremely light supermagnets and conductors.

Infamous Scribbler
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id be grand dictator, a small panel of advisers and i would have total power over everything and immunity to the law, bwaaahahahha.

That or id try out a slightly altered form of communism

On the Record
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Joined: 25 Jan 2008

If I was the man to rebuild government and society... Hahahahahahaah! YOU'RE ALL SCREWED!
*ahem*

I mean...

I'd be a total dictator, unquestionable and all-mighty, but just and fair. Many of the laws we have now would be reinstated (some slightly revised), but some are f**king outta here. Assuming that technology still exists after whatever calamity that removed the current gov, telemarketing would be criminal, punishable by death by hanging (from a phone cord just for irony's sake). Door-to-door religion pushing would result in death by crucifixion (again, irony). And wearing spandex without a permit would result in 3 months jail time.

Paperboy
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Joined: 7 Apr 2008

My government would be a puesdo-democracy, of which I would be the shadow queen (having a puppet for the people to look to would take the pressure off of me, and they could be replaced while the true power would remain). IQ tests would be mandatory which would determine the types of jobs available to them. Reproduction would be strictly controlled. No more pregnant teens or trailer trash w/ 10 kids (Sprears family, you know who you are). Freedom would be an illusion. And any treason would be dealt with severely (public executions). Yeah, that's all I got for now.

Gone Gonzo
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I think anyone who browsed the democracy thread has a good idea of what I'd do.

On the Record
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My system would be a large complex of microcountries, each would be a small town, of size no greater than 2000. Each town would be govenerned by a Senate, constituted of 10 people from sectors, chosen by the people (not elected, chosen by public opinion. Like a crowd would point at one individual and say "him"). The Sectors of the senate would be Agriculture, Finance, Commerce, Health, Safety, Education, Protection and there would be one individual that would be the '11th' member to each of the Sectors, who would be the Representative Major for the town, whom would meet twice a year in the wilderness with the Representative Majors from all the other towns adn they would discuss the world situation. [Whatever they said at the Biannual meeting would be recorded and would be unalterable.]
Senators would have terms that last as long as they wished, as short as 4 months and as long as 4 years.
Surplus population would be moved to other towns, or used to create new ones.

And I think it would work, if not sounding a bit too New-World-Order-esque.

BANNED
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Anarchemitis:
My system would be a large complex of microcountries, each would be a small town, of size no greater than 2000. Each town would be govenerned by a Senate, constituted of 10 people from sectors, chosen by the people (not elected, chosen by public opinion. Like a crowd would point at one individual and say "him"). The Sectors of the senate would be Agriculture, Finance, Commerce, Health, Safety, Education, Protection and there would be one individual that would be the '11th' member to each of the Sectors, who would be the Representative Major for the town, whom would meet twice a year in the wilderness with the Representative Majors from all the other towns adn they would discuss the world situation. [Whatever they said at the Biannual meeting would be recorded and would be unalterable.]
Senators would have terms that last as long as they wished, as short as 4 months and as long as 4 years.
Surplus population would be moved to other towns, or used to create new ones.

And I think it would work, if not sounding a bit too New-World-Order-esque.

Have you read Anthem? Yea, that's how it would work out. I think you should revisit the idea and completely change it in every way.

Paperboy
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The interesting thing is many of the more serious ideas stated here are actually based off real philosphies and systems of government. I see semblances of anarchy (a political system version), the feudal system and Augustus 'principes' system.

As for my idea, it is based off the Roman Republic, a most curious form of democracy where there is a sort of career path in politics called the Cursus Honorum, which is like a step ladder of careers from the Sims (this actually happened), where the normal senators (elected for life) about 300 of them, would be elected to be magistrates, and you had to be a junior magistrate to be electable for a senior posistion.
For example, in my system you would have the adminsrative path go senator, quaestor (admin posistion), aedile (responsibly for city running), praetor (lawmaker/judge) and finally consul (only 2 of them in any one year, in the nation, strongest power, but can cancel each other's actions out. In a complex system of checks and balances you have 2 censors, ex-consulars who edit the senatorial rolls, and can remove magistrates from office, you also have 10 tribunes who are elected for a term of a year and each have the power of veto over any laws passed. Finally an ex-consul and ex-censor can become the overseer who has no power by himself but is the final decider in any sort of political deadlock.

Copy Clerk
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Benevolent Dictatorship, me at the top, council below me, set down the ground laws and let the council rule and smack them around with their own laws then revert everything to the way it was and get a new council who's hopefully smarter.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Why imagine when you can try it out?

My own was a left-leaning college state.

Copy Clerk
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id try a socilist( probably misspelted(dammit) that) republic. Everybody would be equal, and the government would be as transparent as possible. As this will never happen i would also give everbody a dodge viper and everyday magical rainbows of happiness would appear. But failing that hard line dictatorship sounds good to me( as long as i was the dictator). But again i would be angry and evil to everbody so everbody's equal.

Gone Gonzo
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The problem with creating your own government is the reprocussions it might have on future generations. They don't tell you this in the history books, but no one expected America to outlast George Washington; it is nothing short of a miracle that it did.

That being said our government is not perfect; it has far too many flaws that far too many people too readily point out without giving suggestions on how to change them.

Personally I think it would be a good idea to elect congress by lot. You can't trust people who want power with it, myself included. There would be certain institutions this wouldn't work with (judges, mostly). The primary problem with this is it resembling a draft; while I don't belive it a good idea to let people pass out, there would be certain conditions to pass out of a race.

A people's government is the reflection of the people; no government can be perfect becasue people are not perfect.

Apologies for rambling.

Beat Writer
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Joined: 3 Jan 2008

Take some young children, and see what form of governement naturally forms with them(the idea being they should have no pre-concieved understanding of government). Possibly necessary to take 2 sets of children, 1 control group of children brought up 'in labs' and one group of kids brought up naturally. Worth a shot, just for interests sake.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 29 Dec 2007

3 houses parliament and a King/Queen.

First house- All members elected by the people for a 4 year term.

Second house- 1/2 members elected, 1/2 selected by the king. Members for life.

Third house- 5 people who have the power to, after a unanimous vote, cancel out the kings order. They are keept hidden from all save the other members as is the method of slection

The king must listen to the houses in most matters, his son/daughter rules when he dies.

Note: I will update this post with the rest of my government

Infamous Scribbler
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Joined: 22 Jan 2008

Technocratic democracy - as seen in the JC ending of Invisible War. A true democracy, where all voices are given equal weight AND it's not a tedious process, but a real-time one. A governement system where votes do not determine outcome, but rather consensus - and where all minds can communicate with each other in real-time, this is not as difficult as one might imagine.

Of course, it's also a pipe dream. I can dream at least.

Gone Gonzo
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Knight Templar:
3 houses parliament and a King/Queen.

First house- All members elected by the people for a 4 year term.

Second house- 1/2 members elected, 1/2 selected by the king. Members for life.

Third house- 5 people who have the power to, after a unanimous vote, cancel out the kings order. They are keept hidden from all save the other members as is the method of slection

The king must listen to the houses in most matters, his son/daughter rules when he dies.

Note: I will update this post with the rest of my government

Bah, monarchy. Evil, EVIL I say!

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 18 Dec 2007

A country ruled in the sense of an internet forum. I would be the head admin with supreme power (a big gun or something) and about 2.5% of the population will be moderators. Its the role of the moderators to "ban" those that decide to break the countries guidelines.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 3 Apr 2008

i would have a totalitarian dictatorship......RULED BY A MOOSE!!

ALL HAIL EMPOROR MOOSE!

Infamous Scribbler
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Joined: 15 Dec 2007

i'd rule with an iron fist holding a live hand grenade and be assasinated 3 years later, betrayed by my concubines.

Copy Clerk
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Joined: 10 Apr 2008

I'd be a dictator. A nice dictator, but a dictator nontheless.

Make it crime free through a strong police force, actually listen to complaints about corruption (people can appeal directly to me for a certain amount of time a day! After a weapon check.) and I get to be rich as an added bonus.

Staff Emeritus
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Already did it:

The People's Republic of Obamarama is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its complete lack of prisons. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 460 million enjoy extensive civil rights and enjoy a level of social equality free from the usual accompanying government corruption.

The government -- a sprawling, bureaucracy-choked morass -- juggles the competing demands of Social Welfare, Education, and Healthcare. The average income tax rate is 48%, but much higher for the wealthy. The private sector is almost wholly made up of enterprising fourteen-year-old boys selling lemonade on the sidewalk, although the government is looking at stamping this out.

An increasing percentage of the population's youth have homosexual parents, people who are terrified of needles are torn between their phobia and free health care, anti-government web sites are springing up, and prime commercial land is being swamped with archaeological teams. Crime is totally unknown. Obamarama's national animal is the obamallama and its currency is the dollar.

Obamarama is ranked 1st in the region and 60,159th in the world for Greatest Rich-Poor Divides.

<3 Nationstates.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 29 Dec 2007

Instead of making an actual government I'll just Nationstate it.

The Free Land of HeinleinIV is a tiny, socially progressive nation, remarkable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 6 million are effectively ruled by a group of massive corporations, who run for political office and provide their well-off citizens with world-class goods and services. Their poorer citizens, however, are mostly starving to death while being urged to go out and get real jobs. The populace has reasonably extensive civil rights, although these are mostly aimed at allowing them to buy whatever they like.

The tiny, corrupt, pro-business government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Defence, and Commerce. Income tax is unheard of. A substantial private sector is dominated by the Trout Farming industry.

Voting is voluntary. Crime is pervasive. HeinleinIV's national animal is the dingo and its currency is the dollar.

HeinleinIV is ranked 96th in the region and 2,127th in the world for Greatest Rich-Poor Divides.

Despite the Nationstates normally giving your country a radical feel, I think mine turned out nice.

Muckraker
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Joined: 5 Mar 2008

Christ on a sledge.

I'd immediately step down because I wouldn't know what the hell I'd be doing and would probably drive the country into recession by the end of the week.

-Nick

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 13 Sep 2007

Ok, here's mine:

The Republic of Easykillion is a tiny, socially progressive nation, notable for its absence of drug laws. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 5 million enjoy a sensible mix of personal and economic freedoms, while the political process is open and the people's right to vote held sacrosanct.

The large, corrupt government devotes most of its attentions to Social Welfare, with areas such as Law & Order and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 24%, but much higher for the wealthy. A tiny private sector is dominated by the Basket Weaving industry.

Crime is moderate, probably because of the country's utter lack of prisons. Easykillion's national animal is the human and its currency is the kill.

Funny- I wouldn't have my government rank social welfare very high at all.

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