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Virgil
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Fire Daemon:
1) Pressing the report button and then pressing the "return to thread" link takes you to the first post in the tread. It would be better if it took you back to the post you reported.

Virgil:
I'll probably update them to do an AJAX report to get rid of the page load at some point

This is done, and should also resolve the problem with the report function going to the first page of the thread.

wilsonscrazybed:

  • The New Message box could expand if the content of your post gets longer
  • A forum-jumping dropdown.

Both of these are complete as well!


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Virgil
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Additional minor update. If someone is banned for a post, that post stays ban flagged (greyed out, minimized) even after the ban itself wears off. Previously, the post would return to normal when the ban ended.

This will help keep the staff from banning someone multiple times for the same post, and help make it clear that the content of a certain post was deemed bannable. The change is retroactive, and already in effect.


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Virgil
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sirdanrhodes:
How about when you are reporting a thread, how about a dropdown list to say what the nature of the report is, allowing moderators to priorities troll threads other a repeat thread.

And I quote:

On Reporting: Reports are anonymous. Accidental reports do not hurt anything, as it takes multiple reports to push a post into the moderation queue. Nothing happens automatically, the queue is just a list of posts for the moderators to look at. Please don't suggest ways to stop 'bad reports' - if it becomes a problem, the moderators and programmers will figure out a solution themselves.

This is in the first post of the thread, under the giant red letters that say 'Please read the whole thread, especially this post, before posting something new!".


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aBlackKnight
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regarding search::
the search forums screen should contain a link to a "how-to search" help page.

Virgil
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The Iron Ninja:
Uh... Problem solved apparently.
I refreshed on this page, the Forum Jump thingy moved to the other side of the page and now works.

You probably had the javascript and CSS files cached - refreshing made your browser download the newest ones. Always try that first ;)

The Iron Ninja:
However, the "Discussion" and "The escapist commentary" options link to this

Should be fixed (once the javascript updates)

Indigo_Dingo:
How about a place to allow other users to contest bans and probation periods of users who have incurred moderator wrath ... Sort of a way to make this place more Democratic.

The forums are not a democracy, and never will be. They're more like a usually-benevolent oligarchy. Bans can be contested using our contact form, which emails several editors to take a look.

Lord Krunk:
I have voiced my opinion many times, but not here as of yet on this subject

The suggestion for a new forum has been noted and is on the consideration list, but to date the editors (who make decisions like new forums) haven't decided to make another one.


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Virgil
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fluffylandmine:
Oh! How about user rating of other users? I mean it would show how credible 'the people' think you are.

We actually have a design for a type of user reputation system already. But, for the time being, we've decided not to do it.

Gitsnik:
Not a suggestion, a bug (flaw?). The ajaxified report button is great, but if I refresh the page (at least in FF on OS X) it gives me a chance to hit thebutton again.

You can hit the button as many times as you want, it only records one report per user per post. This works the same way as the non-Ajax reporting did.

Keeping the state beyond the current page would require more work for the servers, and it's not worth it for a display quirk.


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Virgil
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Gitsnik:
Just on this, is it necessary to be loading scripts from 6 (sometimes 7?) different domains?

Unfortunately, yes. Some are necessary for the site to function (notably the googleapi and escapistmagazine ones) while others are required for stats packages and ads.

Unfortunately, many advertising companies only accept stats from certain sites, which means we have to have several trackers embedded. While I don't enjoy it, ads are how the site can keep running, and I also like having a job, so they have to stay :P


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Virgil
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hypothetical fact:
How are meant to figure out what pony means? The only description is "omg Pony!"

black lincon:
I've been wondering more about the thanks badge. All it says is, "you earned it." Please someone explain how that badge is obtained!

Both of those badges (and in fact, pretty much any badge that doesn't explain where it came from) are awarded personally by editors. The logic behind them is totally unknown to me - I only debug code, not people.


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Virgil
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BallPtPenTheif:
The ability to see online status (Steam/Live/PSN/etc) from your friends list. yeah, that would be pretty sweet.

I'd love to, but unfortunately none of the gaming services provide this sort of information in a way I can grab it. I can't even link directly to Steam profile pages because your profile page isn't directly linked to your account name (as far as I can tell)

Of course, if I'm wrong on this and someone can point me in the right direction, I'm all for it.

mydogisblue:
But when the intergalactic space battle was over and I finally left my inbox had over 15 quote messages, but the problem was was that I already read them in the thread. Is there anyway this could be fixed?

Short of you turning off the notifications, not really. The person posting on the forum is triggering the messages as soon as they post. By the time you saw the post, the message was already waiting for you.


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Virgil
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Calobi:
Also, maybe have it if one person quotes you multiple times in the same post it doesn't send multiple messages. It might only be me, but when I see I have 3 messages I think 3 unique messages. It's more of a pain for my OCD then a real complaint.

This should hopefully be fixed. One post should now only send one PM to each user quoted.


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Virgil
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BlazeTheVampire:
Although most of Khell's suggestions were only meant to be funny, I did like the one about "personal stickies" ...

Jumplion:
A bookmark option. A "bookmark" button on a thread to keep track of new replies instead of searching for the thread over and over and over again.

leugim789:
could we get bookmarks so we can instantly go to our favorite threads without having to spend eternity and a half looking for them. thanks!

Done!


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wilsonscrazybed
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BallPtPenTheif:
Pretentiously verbose eloquent people who play the message board "meta game" are usually disregarded as trolls, when it's really the same thing.

As long as they're not making the forums harder to read, I don't see the problem. Also this isn't the place to start a debate, this is a place to suggest or complain about things related to the site.

Virgil
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sv93:
On some peoples profile I keep getting a message like this ...

Should be fixed.

Jumplion:
I see a problem with the ban/probation system link where it takes you to the post that the person was put on probation/bannage on. More specifically when they're put on probation. ... The post itself, instead of saying "This user was put on probation for this post" it says "this user was banned for this post"

This should be fixed as well.

Frosk:
I'm headed back to the same forum I've based my other suggestions on. When I hit the report button on the other site it gives me the option of telling the mods why I reported it.

Will people please stop suggesting ways to help the reporting system? I don't know how much more clear I can make this. The moderation queue is not flooded and confusing for the moderators. The moderation queue is consistently empty. Just click the button, that's all you need to do. The moderators are smart, they can figure out whether or not a post violates the rules on their own. Please, just click the button.

Frosk, I'm not singling you out on this, you're just the most recent incident. From now on, I delete any post that tries to help the mod queue without a response.

Frosk:
Secondly, instead of a "quote of the day", how about a "post of the week"?

This is kind of what the Letters to the Editor post is, and that's generally something we leave to the editors to handle :)


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Virgil
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mydogisblue:
Also, sometimes the "1 unread message" button still stays around even after I've read my message and I have to open a message that isn't unread to make it go away.

Should be fixed now!

Syntax Error:
Sometimes, when I'm browsing through the site (using IE, but that was a few weeks ago, before the security breach became public), I pressed the quote button. Doing so will take you to the bottom of the page, but the quote does not appear in the text box.

gamebrain89:
I have one. I don't know if its on my side, but any time I hit the quote button upon loading a page on the forum, it just jumps to the bottom of the page, and the quoted text does not show up. If I scroll back up and press quote again, it works, as long as I don't refresh the page. If I refresh, it starts all over.

I can't reproduce this - I've been jumping around the forums in IE7 clicking on the quote buttons and it's been working every time. Are you seeing any Javascript errors when the quote doesn't work? It there any particular post you can find or steps that you can take to break it every time? Do you have any scripts, add-ons, or internet security software things running? I believe it's happening, but unless I can make it happen here I don't even know where to start looking to fix it. We're not doing anything fancy with the quote button.


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Fire Daemon
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Virgil:

mydogisblue:
Also, sometimes the "1 unread message" button still stays around even after I've read my message and I have to open a message that isn't unread to make it go away.

Should be fixed now!

Syntax Error:
Sometimes, when I'm browsing through the site (using IE, but that was a few weeks ago, before the security breach became public), I pressed the quote button. Doing so will take you to the bottom of the page, but the quote does not appear in the text box.

gamebrain89:
I have one. I don't know if its on my side, but any time I hit the quote button upon loading a page on the forum, it just jumps to the bottom of the page, and the quoted text does not show up. If I scroll back up and press quote again, it works, as long as I don't refresh the page. If I refresh, it starts all over.

I can't reproduce this - I've been jumping around the forums in IE7 clicking on the quote buttons and it's been working every time. Are you seeing any Javascript errors when the quote doesn't work? It there any particular post you can find or steps that you can take to break it every time? Do you have any scripts, add-ons, or internet security software things running? I believe it's happening, but unless I can make it happen here I don't even know where to start looking to fix it. We're not doing anything fancy with the quote button.

Yes, I have the same problem. It actually happened when I quoted you, just now. What it seems to do is refresh the page, I actually think of this as a good thing as sometimes it stops me from posting something similar to another person.

It seems to be about 33% thing and it never happens when you hit the quote button a second time. It happens at random in all the forums. I don't have any particular scripts or add-ons that I know of but I do have McAfee site advisor running. But as I said before, it really isn't that big of a problem.

A big problem that I have though is PM's not coming through and not going out to other people. It's a rare thing, maybe 1 out of every 15-20 messages don't get through but missing out on those few message still sucks.

gamebrain89
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Virgil:

mydogisblue:
Also, sometimes the "1 unread message" button still stays around even after I've read my message and I have to open a message that isn't unread to make it go away.

Should be fixed now!

Syntax Error:
Sometimes, when I'm browsing through the site (using IE, but that was a few weeks ago, before the security breach became public), I pressed the quote button. Doing so will take you to the bottom of the page, but the quote does not appear in the text box.

gamebrain89:
I have one. I don't know if its on my side, but any time I hit the quote button upon loading a page on the forum, it just jumps to the bottom of the page, and the quoted text does not show up. If I scroll back up and press quote again, it works, as long as I don't refresh the page. If I refresh, it starts all over.

I can't reproduce this - I've been jumping around the forums in IE7 clicking on the quote buttons and it's been working every time. Are you seeing any Javascript errors when the quote doesn't work? It there any particular post you can find or steps that you can take to break it every time? Do you have any scripts, add-ons, or internet security software things running? I believe it's happening, but unless I can make it happen here I don't even know where to start looking to fix it. We're not doing anything fancy with the quote button.


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I Don't have any extra scripts or add ons running that I know of, there may be something lurking unseen, and I am using Windows Live One Care for my security system, and I have fiddled with it but I can't find any settings on it that would be causing this. As Fire Daemon said, it only happens on the first time you hit the quote button on a page, and it acts like it refreshes the page. Sometimes the text doesn't show up, and other times, it will appear in the box for a split second and then its like the page refreshes.

Virgil
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Novajam:
Could we get an option to swap the colours of text and background in the posts?

We're not likely to have multiple skins for the site. We've tried it, it just doesn't work out that well for us to have to support them over time.

But, here's a quick fix for you: http://userstyles.org/styles/13236

Install that plugin and that CSS, and the text in the forum threads should be white on dark.

Use at your own risk - I don't know enough about how that plugin works to support it. I don't guarantee it works (though it did for me). I don't guarantee it will continue to work as we upgrade the forums and the site.

Fire Daemon
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I've noticed a strange thing with the Probation and the banned tag on a persons post. It seems like the banned link and probation link has gotten mixed up, when you click on a "so and so has been put on probation in X thread" link your taken to their post but instead of them being on probation their banned. The same thing happens in the reverse, when you try and see what someone was banned for you find out their only on Probation.

Jumplion
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I love my HP Potion badge from you guys, thanks!

Though that brings me to my question, I remember reading that the badges could potentially have some sort of value for something. Like the badges being used as currency for something. Are there any plans for something similar like that?

Richard Groovy Pants
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sv93:

Virgil:
5.26% - approximately ;)

Good answer :P

Exact answer. :)

User was banned for: FUN FORUM GAME THX FO PLAYIN :3. (Permanent)
ninjablu
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AS far as suggestions go, I've been noticing how tiny the "send-user-a-message" button. It's a tiny little twenty pixel box next to the name.
I feel it should be a little more prominent and noticeable. I feel this is only my opinion, however, so I guess you should only pay attention if you get some more people who agree with me.

Labyrinth
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Joined: 14 Oct 2007

The idea of thread tags was mentioned in the "I've searched it!" thread. I think this would work quite well, if you just have a checklist of things. Below are a few suggestions.

-Television Discussion on all things from the Great Glass Teat.
-Music Topics based around genres, bands etc.
-Media Radio, news etc.
-Zombies Really need explaining?
-Community Anything about the Escapist itself, or countries, or facebook. That kind of social networking stuff.
-Celebration Christmas threads, for example.
-Gossip/dating Threads about girls/boys, marriage, dating and rumours thereof.
-Rant Nuke Lassic's favourite. Threads where you raaaaage about something.
-Debate Topics written for the purpose of inspiring avid debate and the like.
-Other Probably worth having a little write-your-own here. Things like tagging with "Martial arts" and the like.

EDIT: added some detail.

Second edit: Perhaps it would be worth having different tags for different sections.

Gaming Discussion should have platform/genre tags.
RP should have tags suggesting the content. Dystopia, Spam (Obviously, a better word) etc.

JuniorMartin
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Joined: 21 Jul 2008

I'll keep it quick please read.

1. A bookmarking feature that updates
----------------when a user bookmarks a thread the feature will show old and new threads that share key words or topics so we the user can keep up to date on the threads and discourage recurring threads.

2.A "dude on your favorite dude and dudet list made a new thread go check it message" feature.
----------------I don't think this needs explanation.

3.A muti-select report feature
----------------When you report someone let there be options that lets you guys know why we reported him/her i.e option 1, vulgar 2, language 3,trolling etc, then send the ofende a pm stating why they got banned

Virgil
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Alex_P:
It looks like, right now, you can't report a banned poster's posts.

Whoops! That was a mistake. Mods/Admins don't see the normal report button, so I totally missed that.

Fixed now.

Virgil
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Fire Daemon:
What font does the Escapist forum use?

Arial, 9pt

Ultrajoe:
To that effect, when i import a chunky section (or indeed, any section) from word...

You've found the magic of MS Word "Smart Quotes" - while I try to strip them out in several ways, there's so many different ways stuff can come in depending on your browser, OS language, and character encoding settings that I just can't catch them all. They're generally just not web-friendly.

Here's some more info:

http://ic.ucsc.edu/tutorials/smartquotes.php
http://www.kith.org/journals/jed/2006/02/06/3371.html
http://ezinearticles.com/?Microsoft-Word-Smart-Quotes-and-Article-Marketers-Dont-Mix&id=15624

If you want to be safe, use a good text editor instead of Word for writing 'web stuff' - I use TextPad for just about everything.


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Virgil
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Mariena:
If I quote someone, it will generate a PM and sent to that user that their post has been quoted. What happens if I edit my post and remove that quote? Will the PM still link to a non existant quote, or will the PM be gone along with the edited / removed quote?

The PM is sent at the time the post is made, and will include the text you deleted from the forum post. It can't be updated later - it's kind of like sending an email. The link in the PM goes to the forum post, not the quote, so it will still work even if the quote is removed.


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misterprickly
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Ease-up on "Troll" labeling.

Just because someone starts a topic (mearly stating their opinion) That you find upsetting or outrageous doesn't necessarily make them a troll.

just leave no comment and their topic will eventually fall off the list.

Virgil
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sirtunic:
Well... I'll admit your reasons for banning signatures are reasonable, but how much work is it to ban HTML and limit letter count? (that's not a sarcastic jab, I am curious.)

We already have the code to do text-only signatures as well. It's not a matter of the work involved, we just don't want them.

J-Man:
Perhaps the uploading of audio clips?

Infinitely unlikely. There is an [ audio={url}] tag you can use if you really want to embed a player for something you've already uploaded elsewhere though.


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Anarchemitis
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Virgil:
Arial, 9pt

Huh. My fooling around with taking screenshots of the forums and editing text for miscellaneous and not evil reasons had me figure out it was 12.5pt.
Oh well.

sirtunic
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Mmm... I still think it sucks, but what the hell, I'll get over it.

Virgil
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Joined: 13 Jun 2002

mshcherbatskaya:
I would really love to be able to sort my PMs into folders.

It's coming some time in the future. Most of the code is there (which is what we're using for the quotes) we just need to build the interfaces for it. It's on the list ;)

neoman10
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Posts: 850
Joined: 23 Sep 2008

iPhone app? just a suggestion, but i dont know how to make one so mabye you cant

sv93
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Well this isn't really a problem, just something that kinda seems out of place. On some peoples profiles it says something like "Last Active: 31 Dec 1969 2:00 pm" It seems like that can't be true since the Escapist isn't nearly that old and because the internet isn't nearly that old :P example

wilsonscrazybed
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misterprickly:
Ease-up on "Troll" labeling.

Just because someone starts a topic (mearly stating their opinion) That you find upsetting or outrageous doesn't necessarily make them a troll.

We've updated the forum guidelines recently, I think you'll find your suggestion is already in there.

Mariena
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Joined: 25 Sep 2008

I've noticed quite a few threads with "No text", followed by 10 or so replies "LOL NOTHING TO SEE HERE, REPORT MOVE ON" and "Ooh, you're right! I totally agree with your NoText", and other silly comments.

Isn't it possible to generate an error, or whatever, if you attempt to post a thread with no content (other than a title)?

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