ok disturbed is touring Aus. And i cant go cus all the venues are age restricted.
same thing with last night behind crimson eyes were playing in town along with Z.D.A.F. and again i couldnt go because i am still underage.
i think they would make more money if they let others in.
still i know this thread will not move me sany closer to getting where i want to be.
so im gonna sit here and cry like the emo i am. XD

There's reasons why they have age limits, of course. Not only is it because of the obvious 'some of this content may be inappropriate for children', but the mosh pits at said venues can be really damn intense for kids. Furthermore, bars at these places really do get sick to death of having to ID everyone there, so putting an age limit gets rid of that need.

Not letting anyone under the age limits helps alleviate liability. Like Melaisis said, it would be pretty bad if a kid got trampled in the mosh pit, or a bar would lose their liquor license (in the US anyway, I'm not familiar with Aus alcohol codes) if they served to a minor.

Also, no one likes a whinny emo kid.

I work on a bar at an events centre and I can safely say it makes my job so much easier when I know there's an age restriction. Plus like Melaisis said the mosh pits can get pretty damn frantic. The amount of times I've come away from gigs with injuries (concussed twice) is quite hilarious. Guess it just sucks til you're old enough.

You wouldn't let a 10-year-old go to a Gorgasm concert, would you?

I love a mosh as much as anyone (at bodom i ran into a biker guy about four times my size it seemed fun at the time). I've gotton into other gigs no questions asked. Although yes I do understand the alcohol side of things. also luchiban, shut up! lol no i dont care. just so everyone knows i am 17 (ooooo big number!)

Unforunately for you, you'll just have to be patient. Then make up for lost time once you hit 18.

Or hit the stadium gigs, you might not quite get the bands you want, but the bigger venues don't tend to be age restricted. Or you can always go see My Chemical Romance...

10 year old at Gorgasm? why not? XD

My Chemical Romance??? Fuck Off!

The only reason im excided about turning 18 is so I can go to more gigs!

zen5887:
The only reason im excided about turning 18 is so I can go to more gigs!

And obviously that you can drink... right?!

This year's Damnation festival (with Carcass, Berzerker, Napalm Death and My Dying Bride) is only 14 restricted.

umm who actually followed/follows the drinking law?
and the underage sex law?
and the its wrong to murder law?

I suppose while age restrictions will annoy those underage, if the benefits outweigh excluding a group of fans then I suppose it's a fair injustice, if you get what I mean.

Iuchiban2525:

Also, no one likes a whinny emo kid.

I think that statement is a little false- some people do, as long as people aren't unbearably whiney. Also lots of open minded people like emos. Finally lots of people like kids.

ZDAF usually have no age restrictions.
but usually its only its real die hard fanboys (eg me) that turn up.
this usually amounts to about 50 people. lulz

ok im going skiing tommorrow so i have to be up early.
so goodnight to all.

HeartagramMan:
My Chemical Romance??? Fuck Off!

now now, there's no need for that.

Funnily enough, age restrictions at gigs were how straight-edgers got their iconic black 'X' symbol. Many of the hardcore bands that made up the scene were underage, so club managers would draw black x's on their hands to indicate to bar staff they were to be served soft drinks only.

Not really on topic, but interesting all the same.

I can't go to see Joe Satriani, and he doesn't even have violent themes or 'politically incorrect' language! Because it's in a club. Naturally, I enter a club I must be the sort of underage fellow that hands out pills, gets drunk and urinates on other patrons. I can totally see eye to eye with you, man!

Satch is firkin 52, man! There is no way he's gonna jump up and down screaming, encouraging me to eat a baby in the name of Satan whilst setting fire to the venue. For shame Australian government.

The age restriction is understandable, but what nil said was a good idea. Perhaps not allowing young people at the front where most of the moshes are.

HeartagramMan:
umm who actually followed/follows the drinking law?
and the underage sex law?
and the its wrong to murder law?

Me me me! Underage drinking is for losers ;)

Most of the concerts I've been to just do the x-on-your-hand thing at the door if there's a bar. The only concerts I like are bands like Styx so the content of the performance is never really a direct issue. The only concerts that I want to go to that have had age restrictions are Freezepop concerts. I still have yet to go to one because the only time they played near here I was only sixteen and the age limit was eighteen.

Tomorrow night Styx and Boston are at the Family Arena in St. Charles, and I get to go and not worry about being carded for drinking age or adult content. Woo for all-age concerts!

then its a shame for you because if you are 17 and you get asked for id then you suck
unless you are in one of the inferior countries where an age limit is 21, not sure about Aus

For me in the UK, it's alright-most of the time under 14's need to be accompanied by an 18+, which seems fair enough, and places which are straight up under-18's not allowed, probably to do with either sale of alcohol, content or insurance.

HeartagramMan:
My Chemical Romance??? Fuck Off!

Here here. I wonder what they'd do if you shined a light at them? Probably start squeiling like girls.

Age restrictions were never a problem for me and my mates because we're only 18 but we look like we're 27.

nilcypher:
Funnily enough, age restrictions at gigs were how straight-edgers got their iconic black 'X' symbol. Many of the hardcore bands that made up the scene were underage, so club managers would draw black x's on their hands to indicate to bar staff they were to be served soft drinks only.

Not really on topic, but interesting all the same.

That's exactly what I was going to say. As a system I think it isn't a bad idea, especially if the under 18 ban is purely for alcohol serving reasons.

As for moshing, it's your call. A venue takes out insurance against itself by putting on the tickets "no moshing or crowd surfing allowed". People do it anyway but if you get f#&ked up, it's your problem. In 90% of the mosh pits I've been in (and we'd be talking triple figures) if someone goes to ground, about ten people reach down and pick them straight back up. I don't see possible personal injury as a reason to ban people under 18. Enter at own risk. Mind you if you were 13 it may have been advisable to give it a miss.

As someone who missed out on seeing Pop Will Eat Itself live because I was 17 at the time, I know the sting of missing out on a band you really want to see. In my case they broke up no long after and I never will see them live.

i just think its dumb
and its not really dangerous like mosh pits
i do it
its fun if they get hurt its their own fault
music deserves to be enjoyed by all

I hate gigs without age restrictions, there's nothing worse than going to a gig and finding droves of 14 year old girls. Gigs (the ones in clubs anyway) are about enjoying the music and having a pint or 2, and children just spoil the atmosphere.

It's different at the large and/or open air concerts, but the increasing trend for 14+ rather than 18+ smaller gigs here in the UK is annoying.

I'm 21 so no problems For Me!
In Australia once you hit 18 you get everything except a permit to use fireworks, and the ability to drive with blood in your alcohol.... But when you hit 21.........

Well actually one random place turned me down, I needed a drink badly (It was New Years) and they had a battle of the Bands playing, I was above the legal limit, but they turned me down. They had a minimum age of 25!?!
I checked back later, turns out it was a BDSM club that likes to provide light entertainment between sessions of "Heavy Entertainment"...

@ Heartagram

You actually WANT to see Disturbed after hearing their new album?
I felt dirty after listening to it, I'm glad i only borrowed it from a friend.

As for my opinion on age restrictions at concerts...

The only under 18's concert I went to had some of the craziest moshing I've seen, including a guy on crutches bashing the shit out of everyone around him, wheras at the all ages concert there was a naked guy crowd surfing.

In summation, it really depends on the band playing, the heavier the bands style, the heavier the goings-on at the concert will be.

btw: the under 18's concert was I Killed the Prom Queen and the all ages concert was Parkway Drive.

If they let anyone under 18 in they would be scared for life. Drunk from the Kool-aid, addicted to cigs and high from the brownies. also they would have seen many topless women they didn't want to see (and some they did :])
P.S. No, i dont belive this is how ALL concerts are. I just want to say they are crazy.

Venues make money in two ways

1) The promoter pays a fee to book the place for the evening
2) liquor sales & concessions

they could really care less about the actual ticket sales.

@ mesh
hmm true inside the fire is a good song.
although compared to songs like Ten Thousand Fists, Voices, Stricken and Land of Confusion.
yes the new album falls pretty short.
but what can i say, when comes to bands i like im a fanboy.