I don't care if we covered it or not, I've been on this site for what...2 or 3 days?

Does it have to a debate? I'm just wondering what people think about it really.

Want me to start one? Okey Doke

Should it be legal?

Evil Raven665:
I don't care if we covered it or not, I've been on this site for what...2 or 3 days?

And the mods have included a lovely feature called the 'Search' button, just for people like you.

Well I'm sorry I don't like the search button...it doesn't amuse me.

Reading peoples opnions on shit does. So I'd rather start a new thread that's already been done and read new people's opinions and go look for the old one and read there posts. I actually want to have a conversation.

ok besides all that(sorry for it as well)

Any more opnions?

I'm completely for it. Been getting baked since my sophomore year, and I still have a 3.4 GPA so I really don't think it is affecting my brain in any bad ways.

Only problem I can see is for someone with a really low resting heart beat (Me being one of them) if they smoke a lot in one go (Like a G and a half of chronic in one hit :D) you can feel like your heart is at 1 beat a minute... kinda scared me, not going to do that one again

Back on my stance, its all good but if you have adverse effects, DON'T DO IT.

EDIT:
I am leaning towards the legal side with restrictions to the likes of tobacco products, but maybe 17 because Cannabis is less harmful than the carcinogens cigarettes.

getting high is kinda fun, get slightly light headed, s little numbness that spreads over your body, and (it depends on the drug) a euphoric feeling, it can vary as to how long if lasts, usually (for the stuff around here) about half an hour from a couple hits. sometimes it can last a lot longer.

for the love of god (or who ever you might believe in) stick to weed, don't do any of the other stuff

* not that ever ever done any sort of drugs ;)

Evil Raven665:
Does it have to a debate? I'm just wondering what people think about it really.

Haha. You misunderstand me. I was saying that this thread has a different raison d'etre; since there's no debate this thread is almost a different topic (if the same subject).

My brother has been getting high since Sophmore....he actually did a lot better when he was stoned. But he hasn't been doing so well lately.....I don't think weed has anything to do with it.

I think the only drug they should make legal is weed, because weed really doesn't hurt you to be honest.

AntiAntagonist:

Evil Raven665:
Does it have to a debate? I'm just wondering what people think about it really.

Haha. You misunderstand me. I was saying that this thread has a different raison d'etre; since there's no debate this thread is almost a different topic (if the same subject).

Ooooooohhhh, Yea I did missunderstand that, that is my fault, I'm sorry

Huh...no one cares about Mexico? Really? I only keep up with the news down there intermittently, and even I know that the country is tearing itself apart because of the drug trade. I would not be surprised to learn that a number of other countries suffer from serious police and corruption issues.

That said, I'm not against weed per se. I'm against the current supply system that has resulted in the ruination of so many lives. I think weed itself is probably more innocuous than alcohol. I also believe that if it were legalized, use would go down. Legitimate business, more importantly, would result in the almost immidiate destruction of the current marijuana black market, which I care more about than a bunch of potheads.

Sadly for all of us, I'm not in the position to make that decision. And until something changes, I strongly refuse to support the destruction of peace and safety in other countries because I feel like getting high. And I wish other people would make that decision as well.

Well, I would never do any sort of narcotic simply because I hate the dizzy/don't know what's going on/feeling stupid thing that "soft" drugs do, I don't do meth and crack because it ravages your body, outside of that it would good for certain occations(like, cleaning the grout in the tile or sprinting). But all things put into the "Drugs" category are bad for you or just do that feeling described earlier; or both. So I find them to be for people who don't enjoy this world enough, but suck at video games and (other) geeky activities. To summarize:
I play video games and Dungeons and Dragons instead of doing drugs.

I'm not a big fan of that feeling either, it seems kinda pointless to me really.

I'm never going to try meth or crack or any other drug at that to be honest.

Well I know people who smoke weed A LOT, and they are great a games. So it just depends really.

Anyone else want to voice their opinion?

I wouldn't mind if weed were legalised, though I don't smoke it.

I think a lot of people wouldn't really mind it, and I'm sure a lot of people really want it legalized. I don't see why it's not....I heard it's because the government can't tax it because you don't need a huge factory to grow it.

Either no one likes to voice their opinions, people don't see it, or people just think this is stupid.....sad face

Evil Raven665:
I think a lot of people wouldn't really mind it, and I'm sure a lot of people really want it legalized. I don't see why it's not....I heard it's because the government can't tax it because you don't need a huge factory to grow it.

Correct me if I happen to be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the gov't can tax weed if they decided to legalize it.

Just maybe, don't exactly recall...

dude, threads take time. Constantly bumping yours will not make it fill up faster.

Drmortuss:

Evil Raven665:
I think a lot of people wouldn't really mind it, and I'm sure a lot of people really want it legalized. I don't see why it's not....I heard it's because the government can't tax it because you don't need a huge factory to grow it.

Correct me if I happen to be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the gov't can tax weed if they decided to legalize it.

Just maybe, don't exactly recall...

My question for that is then....how? I mean, they can't tax just what a person sells if it's not in a store. It's like, if I painted(I don't just an example) and I sold my paintings, but not in a store....how could they tax that. The people who grow it will just sell it to people and not give it to stores. I mean I can understand if they sell it in stores, they can tax it, but I'm sure no one will give it to a store unless they really need to.

I wouldnt do a drug, because i know people who do take Weed and regret it later, like when i went to Virgin 08' in a tent with a bunch of weed smoking people, i practically got high from the smell. I personally would rather stick to drinking, purely becaues i enjoy a drink and i can drink responisibly... if i want.

I know what you mean Relgaro...I had to stay in a room with a bunch of smokes before, and they started smoking and I pretty much got a contact buzz from all of it. It's not that great I have to say. It didn't seem like I had one, but according to the people the next day I did.

Evil Raven665:
My brother has been getting high since Sophmore....he actually did a lot better when he was stoned. But he hasn't been doing so well lately.....I don't think weed has anything to do with it.

I think the only drug they should make legal is weed, because weed really doesn't hurt you to be honest.

apart from the fact its like smoking a pack of ciggarettes from one joint...

the whole lung problem is just the main thing why i wouldnt do it, having that much tar in my lungs is actually wrong.

I am all for the legalization of many (fairly) harmless substances. I think they should be under the same laws as alcohol. Doing so could improve our economy and allow us to shift the funding spent busting pot heads toward stopping the spread of the really horrible drugs like crack and meth.
On a different note, I don't use and usually don't too much like those that do often. USUALLY. Note that before jumping on me. If you are a functional pot head, I have no beef with you. It's those that spend their whole day baked that don't function and can't even join a social event that doesn't involve a bowl. The true stoner. Those people get on my damned nerves.
If I have offended you... get over it, put the bong down, and live a little with the clarity of NOT being high for 5 min.
/rant

I could give a rats ass whether the government likes/wants me to smoke weed, as I am a hardworking productive member of society, and I pay off my bills first and foremost. That being said, I smoke weed almost every day after work because it helps calm me down after a stressful day, and unlike alcohol, I don't wake up with a hangover, nor do I make a complete ass of myself when I'm high (the same unfortunately can not be said for alcohol), and bullocks to anyone who has a problem with this stance, I smoke weed on a regular basis, it doesn't prevent me from being a productive member of my society, but I know more than enough drunkards who are a drain on society and they can't go to jail for being a drunken lout, so nuts to that, if I have to put up with stupid drunks, then everyone else can deal with the smell coming from my basement as I spark up another bit of weed.

dukeh016:
Huh...no one cares about Mexico? Really? I only keep up with the news down there intermittently, and even I know that the country is tearing itself apart because of the drug trade. I would not be surprised to learn that a number of other countries suffer from serious police and corruption issues.

That said, I'm not against weed per se. I'm against the current supply system that has resulted in the ruination of so many lives. I think weed itself is probably more innocuous than alcohol. I also believe that if it were legalized, use would go down. Legitimate business, more importantly, would result in the almost immidiate destruction of the current marijuana black market, which I care more about than a bunch of potheads.

Sadly for all of us, I'm not in the position to make that decision. And until something changes, I strongly refuse to support the destruction of peace and safety in other countries because I feel like getting high. And I wish other people would make that decision as well.

I salute you, you've honed in on a point most people overlook, and I agree completely.

From my point of view it doesn't kill you, it just makes you stoned and you kill yourself.

Marijuana would be a nightmare to tax. It grows to easily (hence the name "weed") and would thus prompt a competition of quality in which companies would try to make more powerful versions of the substance. Eventually we'd get a harmful substance that would be highly addictive and more detrimental to our health than natural marijuana (which would again be outlawed, unless you have a kind of marijuana license which would be as expensive as hell).

That's the way the world works these days. As long as corporations lobby and have considerable sway in government policy, you will NEVER see a proper legalization of marijuana. Right now, the best we can hope for is decriminalization: make it legal to have enough weed for personal use, trafficking it results in a fine (not much larger than a parking ticket), and growing it is a slightly larger fine ($350-$500).

This makes it a defacto tax (meaning we don't drag the IRS into it), the money goes straight to the state, and there could even be a loophole that allows people to pay the fine in advance if they can afford it. It cuts out the ATF by making the issue a state or city matter rather than a federal one as well.

When it comes to ANY legislation, cut out as many middle-men as possible.

poleboy:
So you just joined a forum and decided that your 4th post should be composed of whatever authority x told you to say when confronted with the horrors of pot. Good job documenting this so-called proof as well.

sorry, forgot the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6917003.stm

I did it once. I woke up in a garbage can in St. Cruz, wearing only a potato sac and half a coconut.

If cigarretes and alcohol are legal, there's no reason for marihuana to be illegal. It's less toxic (let me correct that, it's NOT toxic, not the least bit), and it is impossible to overdose from it.
In fact, I'd rather have a stoned friend drive me home than a drunk friend. People who are high on marihuana are still logical and coherent, just slower to do synapsis.

Lil_Hank93:
I dont care what anybody says, weed should be a choice. Thats it. Until it starts to affect others, no1 else should have a say in it. Of course, such activities, such as driving, while high should be lookeed down upon and any1 who does so should pay proper consequences, but other than that its a completely personal matter.

By the gods, you people know nothing. Messing with weed churns out badly typed posts with random numbers strewn in to replace actual three-lettered words. Think of all the apostrophes, commas, and other important punctuation material we will miss! The hazards that will arrive as all weed smokers don't go to their respective jobs and instead come here to post negligent threads and make weak polls! The new members who refuse to read the rules and use search buttons! (I'm not picking on you specifically, Hank.)

Honestly, weed is a waste of time. The more people that fool around with the garbage, the less jobs people will be employed into; not that there aren't plenty of people who wouldn't mind getting employed in place of the morons who never show up at work. So instead of citizens buying pounds of the stuff at local gas stations and pharmaceuticals to better fund a country, we would have a larger and larger percentage of dirt poor twenty-something year olds who never went to get a proper education and would not bother getting a job to support themselves, more or less leave the couch. Weed can be terribly addictive and it's a downward hole in the ground if you aren't at all careful.

There are other reasons in smoking weed than the selfish. In one way, most of you on here (particularly the poster) demonstrate fully:

you have not tried it.

My main reason for trying drugs - besides curiousity - was to better understand other people who choose to do such things. Thinking towards the future, it would greatly benefit your relationship with your children if you had a past of light drug-usage so that if they ever get involved, you would have some incite to their actions rather than casting it off as evil, as so many mindless elders do today.

I used to be very anti-drug, anti-drinking a few years ago. Of course as you grow up you encounter a variety of situations that will pressure you one way or another (peers, curiousity) into trying it.

Like any other substance, weed can become something ugly in your life if mistreated. While I feel it does not bring about serious mental or physical consequences as does smoking ciggarettes (which I do), it can become something you do routinely. In this way, it is about as "harmless" as devoting all your time to WoW.

In the end, people who lose themselves to drugs or playing MMORPGs aren't bad people; just people who choose to live their lives a certain way. In my opinion, there are better things to do with your time here; life is short.

P.S.: I'm typing this at work right now and I enjoy smoking once or twice a week. Working hard and earning what you get is possible if you have your fun in moderation. If you think one puff of weed will destroy your built-up work ethic, you need to grow up and get a mind of your own.

Never had a problem with weed when it was illegal and i haven't had a problem with it after it was legalized. I don't get the fuzz, it's in the same league as beer.

As far as addictions go: if you're the kind of guy who gets addicted to weed and throw your life away, if you wouldn't have had the weed, you'd be addicted to some other drug.
People turn to drugs/alcohol as a relaxation, an energizer or for escapism. Remove the drug they use to that purpose and they'll just move on to another.