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Do you have A.D.D.
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No
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Paperboy
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Joined: 19 Aug 2008

I have A.D.D. Do you have A.D.D.?

Anonymous Source
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I'll do you one better, I don't just have ADD, I have ADHD, that's Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder for the laymen in the room.

Gone Gonzo
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I don't but my dog does. He'll play fetch until he hears a noise or will completely forget you even threw the ball. Its actually really funny.

Gone Gonzo
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I'm kinda with the side that says we shouldn't give such an ordinary human condition a name and pump kids full of drugs.

Gone Gonzo
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Larenxis:
I'm kinda with the side that says we shouldn't give such an ordinary human condition a name and pump kids full of drugs.

Eh, Aslong as the punks stay off my lawn.

On the Record
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It is arguable whether or not ADD/ADHD really exist, as someone previously diagnosed with ADD, I personally don't believe it's a real condition... But if, IF it is a real condition, I would still stand by my belief that the vasy majority of people diagnosed ADD/ADHD don't truly have it.

ADD is the '90s way of saying a child is acting like a child would without proper parental control and/or discipline, or one which is bored shitless.

School is boring. Homework, chores, church, and to some people, sports are all BORING. A bored child OR adult, is not going to pay much attention, and some pharmacists decided to cash in on this simple fact and claim it's a mental disorder. If thinking redundant math problems are boring is a mental disorder, then I'm batshit insane.

Beat Writer
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Joined: 22 Jul 2008

Meh, Im more OCD than ADD

Gone Gonzo
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What Khell and Larenxis said.

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Khell_Sennet:
It is arguable whether or not ADD/ADHD really exist, as someone previously diagnosed with ADD, I personally don't believe it's a real condition... But if, IF it is a real condition, I would still stand by my belief that the vasy majority of people diagnosed ADD/ADHD don't truly have it.

ADD is the '90s way of saying a child is acting like a child would without proper parental control and/or discipline, or one which is bored shitless.

School is boring. Homework, chores, church, and to some people, sports are all BORING. A bored child OR adult, is not going to pay much attention, and some pharmacists decided to cash in on this simple fact and claim it's a mental disorder. If thinking redundant math problems are boring is a mental disorder, then I'm batshit insane.

So true.

Gone Gonzo
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*Hops onto the Khell and Larenxis "Not a big deal" bandwagon*

Yeah, I think it's mostly just misdiagnosed. I've seen people who could legitimately claim to have it, that is, they get pretty hyper and it's hard to keep their attention, but then I've know people for years only to find out they have a disease which I've never seen them exhibit the symptoms of.

Copy Clerk
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Joined: 11 Aug 2008

I agree with Khell on most cases of ADD. I know a lot of people who are wrongly diagnosed with ADD. I believe that I am one of the few people that actually has ADD, it's hard to focus on things, even when it's something I really wanna be doing. It's why I have 6 books half read and 4 unfinished games.

Beat Writer
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Joined: 6 Aug 2008

Dude, did you see that thread about McCain and Dungeons and Dragons?

(see what I did there?)
:P

Gone Gonzo
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i don't think it's a legitimate disease so much as "your child is a squirrel here are some placebos" way of looking at kids who are bored.

i qualify for several things add because you have to have a valid fight to keep my attention, ocd because i arrange things when i'm bored, autism because i'm not a gayly dancing social butterfly.

it can be simple, or a bit more dedicated to making you look like a odd-ball.

Gone Gonzo
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Psychology is becoming more and more of a joke. I still have respect for the field (My girlfriend is in psychology, so I have to) but so many recent disorders are just ways of making ordinary mental differences seem like flaws. ADD/ADHD is the worst offender, as the "affliction" and corresponding medications have become ways to say "I'm not a lousy parent, my child has a disorder."

EDIT: I'm not saying it doesn't exist, by the way. I'm saying that it's severely over-diagnosed.

Beat Writer
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Larenxis:
I'm kinda with the side that says we shouldn't give such an ordinary human condition a name and pump kids full of drugs.

Agreed, drugs are bad, bad, bad, even when they're meant to make children "normal"

On the Record
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Here's some more to ponder about ADD.

Ever seen the South Park episode "Timmy 2000", the one where all the kids in South Park are diagnosed with A.D.D...

First off, the whole pharmacists getting rich off bogus prescriptions is entirely true. It's happened with more drugs than just Ritalin. Don't trust any single doctor, always get a second or even third opinion when it comes to medication and treatment.

But the main point is how wasted and mellow the kids were in that eppy. That is how most kids end up on Ritalin. Now if you have a willful, disobedient, and/or uncontrollable child, as a parent would it not seem like a godsend to have a tiny pill you can give them which will make them subservient and polite? I'd bet there are just as many parents who mislead the doctors into thinking the child is ADD as there are doctors misleading parents. Perfect behavior in a pill. It's the same as those fuckwit parents who dope their kids up on cough medicine before flying.

Gone Gonzo
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I have S.U.B.T.R.A.C.T.

Infamous Scribbler
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I don't care what anyone says, I do NOT have Attention Deficit--

*sees username Evilbunny*

BUNNY!

Beat Writer
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Larenxis:
I'm kinda with the side that says we shouldn't give such an ordinary human condition a name and pump kids full of drugs.

Ha, Ha! finally some one agrees with me

Gone Gonzo
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Khell_Sennet:
But if, IF it is a real condition, I would still stand by my belief that the vasy majority of people diagnosed ADD/ADHD don't truly have it.

i agree.

a friend of mine works at a school for true ADD/ADHD kids. there, when the kids have an episode they become hyperactive and sometimes violent often throwing things. then my friend has to grab the kid by the wrists and pin him to the wall until he simmers down.

i say anything short of having to go to that school is bullshit.

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ADD and ADHD exhist. They are short for, "Parents who refuse to properly discipline their children."

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Gone Gonzo
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TheNecroswanson:
ADD and ADHD exhist. They are short for, "Parents who refuse to properly discipline their children."

meh, like i was saying, when the condition is real it is blatantly obvious and a PHD isn't needed to notice it.

Gone Gonzo
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I wouldn't say discipline is the issue, but I'm a real hippie when it comes to children. The school BallPtPenTheif mentioned seems like the worst place for a child like that to be in.

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I might, I have no idea

I think I do, but my mom doesn't think so.

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Larenxis:
I wouldn't say discipline is the issue, but I'm a real hippie when it comes to children. The school BallPtPenTheif mentioned seems like the worst place for a child like that to be in.

You kidding? School should be like prison. Take away the child's individualiy when they're at school, they're there to learn, not play. Social skills are for people who neglect their education. You don't need classes to tell you how to make friends, or talk to women, you learn that from growing up. Kindergarten should be filled with textbooks and uniforms, and cruel, unrelenting teachers.

Evil Raven665:
I might, I have no idea

I think I do, but my mom doesn't think so.

If you think you do, you don't. Wink. It's like insanity, or schitzophrenia. There is no moment of clarity where you understand how screwed up you are. You just see yourself as acting normally.

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Gone Gonzo
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Eiseman:
I don't care what anyone says, I do NOT have Attention Deficit--

*sees username Evilbunny*

BUNNY!

what bunn...hey is that guy from germany?

Gone Gonzo
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Larenxis:
I wouldn't say discipline is the issue, but I'm a real hippie when it comes to children. The school BallPtPenTheif mentioned seems like the worst place for a child like that to be in.

i'm sure it seems that way but the reality of the situation is that these kids are there because they pose a physical danger to people and themselves. the restraint method is not done in anger or even in an excessicely threatening way. they just firmly and calmly restrain them until their episode passes.

my friend who works there is a stoic guy, nothing gets him angry and from what he explained they screen for patient, well tempered people who can physically handle themselves. you could literally kick him in the junk and he wouldn't get emotionally upset with you.

Gone Gonzo
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Its all really bullsh*t, ADD and ADHD are just made up things so that doctors can sell their drugs to kids that are just eating too much sugar and are bored at school. (I just described my own case, was never on meds though)

On the Record
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they are both fake diseases that parents forced doctors to invent cause they can't control their crotchfruit by being real parents

Gone Gonzo
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I think that simply writing off ADD as a made up disorder of the 1990 (even though it entered the DSM in the 1960's and had been recognized in psychiatric literature decades before that) is as ignorant and as bad as saying "Everyone has it!" So it appears to be very common. So what? So are allergies and asthma, but that doesn't mean they are made up, or a plot by the drug companies to sell us stuff we don't need. Just because you can't see my brain "sneezing and wheezing" doesn't mean it's not happening. Yes, I have been diagnosed with ADD - as an adult two decades removed from school, and I'm pretty sure at this point parental discipline isn't a factor. As for the diet and exercize "cure", I was a professional cook, studied natural medicine, and walked 4 miles a day every day and still had it. No, it's not cosmetic psychopharmacology, any more than taking daily allergy or asthma medicine is cosmetic immunology. It's just the thing that finally allowed me to stop beating my head against an invisible wall for 30+ years.

Press Junketeer
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Well I have Tourette's(no I DON'T blurt out random obsenitys, I just have a physical tic)
and for some odd reason people assume I have A.D.D or A.D.H.D.

Gone Gonzo
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mshcherbatskaya:
I think that simply writing off ADD as a made up disorder of the 1990 (even though it entered the DSM in the 1960's and had been recognized in psychiatric literature decades before that) is as ignorant and as bad as saying "Everyone has it!" So it appears to be very common. So what? So are allergies and asthma, but that doesn't mean they are made up, or a plot by the drug companies to sell us stuff we don't need. Just because you can't see my brain "sneezing and wheezing" doesn't mean it's not happening. Yes, I have been diagnosed with ADD - as an adult two decades removed from school, and I'm pretty sure at this point parental discipline isn't a factor. As for the diet and exercize "cure", I was a professional cook, studied natural medicine, and walked 4 miles a day every day and still had it. No, it's not cosmetic psychopharmacology, any more than taking daily allergy or asthma medicine is cosmetic immunology. It's just the thing that finally allowed me to stop beating my head against an invisible wall for 30+ years.

No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.

Gone Gonzo
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Bulletinmybrain:

mshcherbatskaya:
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No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.

I could go on and on about how that's definitely no better than being too lenient, but I won't, because it would be extremely off-topic.

Gone Gonzo
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Bulletinmybrain:

mshcherbatskaya:
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No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.

I could go on and on about how that's definitely no better than being too lenient, but I won't, because it would be extremely off-topic.

Sure its not better off for the person, My dads an asshole and I forgive him since he trys so hard compared to my brother. But still I havn't did anythign to land me in with the police because I kinda like sitting on my ass not in pain.

Gone Gonzo
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Bulletinmybrain:

Lvl 64 Klutz:

Bulletinmybrain:

mshcherbatskaya:
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No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.

I could go on and on about how that's definitely no better than being too lenient, but I won't, because it would be extremely off-topic.

Sure its not better off for the person, My dads an asshole and I forgive him since he trys so hard compared to my brother. But still I havn't did anythign to land me in with the police because I kinda like sitting on my ass not in pain.

Indeed, but that's rare. As you mentioned, you made sure he didn't find out about anything bad you did. People with parents like that will *usually* go and get themselves in all kinds of jams anyway, but there parents won't ever know about it. Anyway, that's enough about proper parenting, considering I wouldn't know a thing about it apart from my opinion.

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