There are some kids that piss me off. from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90HhZ-pyC2Y&feature=related

to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uneIieUrgI

Do you blame the parents, or the kid her or itself. I blame the parents. if I did that i would be working in a paper mill in Guantanamo.

Brats are a direct result of failure to beat the fear of mommy/daddy into the child.

All i can say is that it's a combination of all three. The way a kid reacts to the parents treatment of them is different for each person is different, plus their own personal experiences also shape their personalities.

The fact is, you can't just point the finger at any one person.

It's usually the parents, though not always.

Sometimes it's the people the kid hangs out with which become a negative influence on them. It only takes one rotten apple to spoil the bunch.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uneIieUrgI
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Oh my god i hate white girls who think they can even remotely speak like a hood,and to the mother of that abomination of god let her have a child,Then kick her cunt ass out of the house.Show her how real life is....

EDIT:dude she like fucked enough dudes to kill a Persian empire...(300 reference to all the slow people)

I have to agree, kids don't seem to fear/respect their parents or authority these days. It's gotten worse though in my opinion.

And I thought I'd throw this one on there as well, from the car link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbOYhU5qhLM&feature=related

Wow, I just saw those. Now I know what the Muslims mean by the whole 'honor killing' thing. If I spawned a child like this, I'd smash its head against a rock.

I say parents, although the blame isn't completely on them (society's failings, etc). But still, politically correct or not, I think you should be able to beat your kids if they end up being spoiled little #$*%-ers.

I've met some kids that could use a serious beat-down, but in this day and age it doesn't matter what the parent does, they'll end up in jail. It's a fine line, but it should be walked.

EDIT:

Simon_TR:
This is a topper...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQRBaBYoXnM

Christ, I pray that's fake... Loved the captions though.

This is a topper...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQRBaBYoXnM

TommyGun465:
There are some kids that piss me off. from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90HhZ-pyC2Y&feature=related

to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uneIieUrgI

Do you blame the parents, or the kid her or itself. I blame the parents. if I did that i would be working in a paper mill in Guantanamo.

*Presses button on desk intercom*

"Destroy her!"

Man I hate brats.Watch this :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH7p3xWyv7g

Simon_TR:
This is a topper...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQRBaBYoXnM

Murder should be just if it betters society,or castration so we can take people like that out of the gene pool...i think i'm going to make a fascist group for people who hate stupid.GOd i hope she doesnt spawn anymore of those creatures

Look up Maddox mission/ The best page in the universe on the best parenting method.

I blame parents, i'm respectful and in general polite to all people because i was raised properly (i act up i get smacked in the back of the head/boot up the arse) only way to raise kids or they become disrespectful little shits.

I know heaps of kids who have please don't do that parents and they are all fucked up little c^nts, compared to the kids who parents didn't take shit who are well adjusted and hard working.

Read some of the earlier posts, i do think the child changes themselves into dickheads but only when the parents are over/under strict and the child/ren either ignore or take advantage of their parents.

This being said if you raise a kid right they might f^ck up their lives but there's less chance of it happening.

God I hate those kinds of people.In this times i respect parents that beat the stupid out of their children.those kids maybe become emotionally disturbed but at least their not complete bitches

I cracked the fuck up at Audrey.

PinkyM44:
God I hate those kinds of people.In this times i respect parents that beat the stupid out of their children.those kids maybe become emotionally disturbed but at least their not complete bitches

Lol thats a bit 2 far...

PinkyM44:
God I hate those kinds of people.In this times i respect parents that beat the stupid out of their children.those kids maybe become emotionally disturbed but at least their not complete bitches

... kind of as long as it isn't abusive, like a smack to the head is ok, a boot is not.
also verbal discipline or else your kid starts talking over you like they are more important, then you've f^cked up as a parent.

She needs to be thrown in the street with half her face cut off, and her legs broke.

Reclaim her a week later. Take her to a hospital. Then educate her again.

tadaa! Contributing member to society.

If it fails, do the same thing, but don't reclaim her this time.

Millions of people on this planet don't have anything to eat
and are dying of hunger, and her life is ruined because she got a Lexus.
I would send her to live in Ethiopia.

Those brats.... Anyone feel like discrimantive genocide?

Don't forget the 'withholding love' option as well, so many people immediately jump to the physical punishment and forget about the psychological side of discipline. For instance maybe once or twice a year while they're in grade school don't make them a lunch or give them money for lunch that way they'll know who has the power.

howard_hughes:
Don't forget the 'withholding love' option as well, so many people immediately jump to the physical punishment and forget about the psychological side of discipline. For instance maybe once or twice a year while they're in grade school don't make them a lunch or give them money for lunch that way they'll know who has the power.

Dude you look like a outta shape Duke Nukem lol,and i have no clue why.

I blame both the parent, the social surround and the person.

Oh, and I especially blame the Glass Teat.

X3heartless:

howard_hughes:
Don't forget the 'withholding love' option as well, so many people immediately jump to the physical punishment and forget about the psychological side of discipline. For instance maybe once or twice a year while they're in grade school don't make them a lunch or give them money for lunch that way they'll know who has the power.

Dude you look like a outta shape Duke Nukem lol,and i have no clue why.

lol. I've never heard that one, but thanks I guess.

It's hard to point a finger at any one person, it's probably a mixture of the parents, the individual and (sometimes) their friends.

I remember when I got my 360 (it was a christmas present) I actually remember saying 'thank you' rather than breaking down into tears because I didn't get the limited edition Halo 3 version with 5 games, I suppose thats a natural side effect of having everything (i.e: you take it for granted).

What ever happened to angry mobs? (that would sort it out).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQRBaBYoXnM

Here, it's definitely the parents' fault.

Is it just me or is it that we need to set ground rules? I mean really they take a cookie, you break their leg...what the fuck man?

All I got were time outs, a spanking if it were really bad, and that was it and but my parents also were relateable, I felt comfortable talking to them about problems or life in general.

But you shouldn't just let your kids go off all nimbly bimbly either

howard_hughes:

X3heartless:

howard_hughes:
Don't forget the 'withholding love' option as well, so many people immediately jump to the physical punishment and forget about the psychological side of discipline. For instance maybe once or twice a year while they're in grade school don't make them a lunch or give them money for lunch that way they'll know who has the power.

Dude you look like a outta shape Duke Nukem lol,and i have no clue why.

lol. I've never heard that one, but thanks I guess.

Lol.I want facial hair!@!

Reaperman Wompa:
Look up Maddox mission/ The best page in the universe on the best parenting method.

I blame parents, i'm respectful and in general polite to all people because i was raised properly (i act up i get smacked in the back of the head/boot up the arse) only way to raise kids or they become disrespectful little shits.

I know heaps of kids who have please don't do that parents and they are all fucked up little c^nts, compared to the kids who parents didn't take shit who are well adjusted and hard working.

Read some of the earlier posts, i do think the child changes themselves into dickheads but only when the parents are over/under strict and the child/ren either ignore or take advantage of their parents.

This being said if you raise a kid right they might f^ck up their lives but there's less chance of it happening.

I often wonder if that's less an attitude, or more of a kind of secret resentment as to how you yourself were treated. Much like the oft spoken: I had to walk five miles in the pouring rain to get to school.

[sarcasm]After all, because I had it tough as a kid, -of course- my children should know the pain I went through [/sarcasm]. That'll teach em'

That said. Fear and violence have been shown to be reasonably effective tools of control, although, not my own first choice personally. And eventually, it just turns into resentment, especially if no explanation is given as to -why- the child is being punished. If you feel the need to disipline your child this way, then at the very least make them understand why.

Second...on the notion of bringing anger to the table. It helps neither party. And more often then not is wasted anger. Example: Let's say a child is reaching up to the counter for a glass (old enough that they can already use it of course) and drops it, smashing it. Upon hearing this, the parent yells at the child, slaps them hard on the hand and sends them to their room. Now, what is the lesson here? That all mistakes no matter how minor are wrong, and an intentional thing on the part of the child to cause trouble? And further, this has upset the parent too, although one may wonder exactly -why- the parent would react this way to a broken glass, which under any other circumstance would be mild annoyance (presumably).

And, that example above I've seen many many times, both from my own point of view, seeing it happen to my siblings, and in other families. Always, minor things like that.

Who said anything about beating them when angry? I'm all for randomly smacking them and just saying "I know what you did."

Seriously, you only hit them when they do something wrong that NEEDS to be corrected. You don't hit them for spilling milk unless they stand there with the container pouring it on the floor. You don't beat them for wrecking the car, you beat them for drinking and driving.

And I believe in the let them learn themselves as long as it won't disfigure/kill them school.
My kid was playing by the electrical socket, I pulled her hand away 3 times saying "no, that will hurt you" then stopped trying to stop her. She got zapped and won't go near a light socket any more. Pain and fear are great learning tools for children until they learn how to reason. Once they learn how to reason the beatings usually stop working and you actually have to explain things to them.

asinann:
Who said anything about beating them when angry? I'm all for randomly smacking them and just saying "I know what you did."

Seriously, you only hit them when they do something wrong that NEEDS to be corrected. You don't hit them for spilling milk unless they stand there with the container pouring it on the floor. You don't beat them for wrecking the car, you beat them for drinking and driving.

And I believe in the let them learn themselves as long as it won't disfigure/kill them school.
My kid was playing by the electrical socket, I pulled her hand away 3 times saying "no, that will hurt you" then stopped trying to stop her. She got zapped and won't go near a light socket any more. Pain and fear are great learning tools for children until they learn how to reason. Once they learn how to reason the beatings usually stop working and you actually have to explain things to them.

Okay that post was disturbing. for one your daughter could have been killed and two pain and fear is what disfigure/kill them MENTALLY. So if you let your daughter do that stuff pally, get ready to pay for funeral. All of you if you have kids punish them by taking away tv and computer permission. Trust me I came home with some bad grades and I wasn't allowed to go on the computer or my ps2 for a month. hek yeah i paid more attention in school. and if their little kids have a "naughty" chair or something and btw those 2 videos made me want to throw my computer out a window lol

I respect the right of a parent to give their kid a good old slap across the face.
I think it is a combination of both parents and the crappy society that the kids live in.

GamerDude123:

asinann:
Who said anything about beating them when angry? I'm all for randomly smacking them and just saying "I know what you did."

Seriously, you only hit them when they do something wrong that NEEDS to be corrected. You don't hit them for spilling milk unless they stand there with the container pouring it on the floor. You don't beat them for wrecking the car, you beat them for drinking and driving.

And I believe in the let them learn themselves as long as it won't disfigure/kill them school.
My kid was playing by the electrical socket, I pulled her hand away 3 times saying "no, that will hurt you" then stopped trying to stop her. She got zapped and won't go near a light socket any more. Pain and fear are great learning tools for children until they learn how to reason. Once they learn how to reason the beatings usually stop working and you actually have to explain things to them.

Okay that post was disturbing. for one your daughter could have been killed and two pain and fear is what disfigure/kill them MENTALLY. So if you let your daughter do that stuff pally, get ready to pay for funeral. All of you if you have kids punish them by taking away tv and computer permission. Trust me I came home with some bad grades and I wasn't allowed to go on the computer or my ps2 for a month. hek yeah i paid more attention in school. and if their little kids have a "naughty" chair or somthing

Don't be a fool and buy into that suburban bullshit. Humans have strong willpower and an instance of pain will teach a child well. It is what the evolutionary instance of learning is about: Something gives you pain- don't do it. Sheltering a child is almost the worst thing for a parent to do and it is why our society is so messed up.

I think that society and parental failure combine to cause a brat. I also think that the type of people that brats associate with contribute

I got 2 little brothers, joe(12) and vinny(3). Joe is an obnoxious, annoying bastard who barly respects our parents, annoys me to the point of me having to make a choice between breaking his stuff or his skull, and he watchs spongebob almost every day which annoys me because our computor is in the same room as the TV and it really gets annoying to lisen to(he's even watching it right now!). Vinny isn't that bad except that joe tells him to do things like to throw things at me or shut off the TV while in watching it, which is very frustrating because I can't hit him. The thing with joe seems to be that my parents never yelled at him loud enough. my parents never hit me but if I annoyed them enough then i would get yelled at pretty badly which at the time scared me. for example when we were all driving to my grandparents house and I wouldn't stop saying "I don't want to go to grandma's house" over and over agian until my dad finaly stoped the car got out, pulled me out and yelled into my face "say it one more god damned time and im gona leave you here!!!". needless to say that I never complained about going anywhere with them agian. Though aparently nothing like this happened to my little brother because we all just learned to live with him being a jackass for most of the day. also one of the things that really piss me off about him is that he WILL NOT answer the phone unless it is someone he wants to talk to, and even if he is the only person in the room he will just let it ring and yell for me to get it no matter what im doing.