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English English |
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Vault Legend Posts: 2205 Joined: 30 Jul 2008 | |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1195 Joined: 31 Jul 2008 | I mostly use American English while spicing up my conversations with the occasional "English English" phrase since it makes me feel cultured and special. Speaking in a way that feels different is my way of being subtly unique, that's the way I feel about it. I'd rather stand out from the crowd because I'm known to use an odd phrase and not because I have a weird haircut or wear some obnoxious novelty everywhere. Though I'm raised to write colour, honour, favour, etc. (I'm Canadian by the way). |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 558 Joined: 5 Feb 2008 | American, though I often catch myself using English spelling without realizing it. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1710 Joined: 2 Jan 2008 | I suppose I use American English... because I'm American. I anticipate many similar responses in this thread. Also, I was under the impression that crêpes and pancakes were two entirely different things. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 645 Joined: 20 Mar 2008 | I use English English. It's probably because of my nationality, but I also prefer the way that English English looks when written. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2163 Joined: 15 Jun 2008 |
They are. Crepes are French, and can be savoury or sweet (mostly savoury from what I've seen, but I have seen sweet ones.) Pancakes (in my experience at least) are sweet. Both are made differently, from different ingredients, and look/taste different. |
On the Record Posts: 6111 Joined: 25 Jan 2008 | As a Canadian, I find we use more American English in speach, but England English in writing. That of course conflicts with HTML and programming languages because they're all in American English, which means I'm just a big mess switching between one and the other like a drunk driver on a 2-lane road. If it matters, I swear more in England English. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1719 Joined: 26 Jun 2008 | I'm not so sure which of them I use, really... |
On the Record Posts: 5674 Joined: 2 Dec 2007 | English English Over here a Thong is a shoe, Boot is the back of a car, a Dunny is a toilet and a Fanny isn't a bum. |
Beat Writer Posts: 208 Joined: 14 May 2008 | i'm american but i prefer english english because i find american english a little on the unsophisticated side. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 1 Joined: 1 Sep 2008 | I object to the term "English English"... it's actually British English, thank you. England get way too much credit for everything in the UK. "American" English is a corruption of the original English language in terms of both spelling and grammar. It's introduced the use of nouns of verbality, the compulsive need to remove the letter 'u' from every word... and massive wikipedia articles like this one. That said, I can spell either way if I want to. I sure do prefer British English any day, on the personal level. Crêpes are actually different to pancakes, since pancakes are generally much thicker. ... and PurpleRain, we don't go old-school on words like Jail. Pash is an Australianism, so it's not BrEng. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2163 Joined: 15 Jun 2008 |
Thats a good example of Australian English. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1381 Joined: 1 Sep 2008 | I'm from Jamaica so I speak English with a Jamaican accent usually. When i'm at work or with customers though I try to speak American English but end up sounding Australlian. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 375 Joined: 23 Jul 2008 | English English, Australia seems to be in the middle between the two types. Being saturated with American tv but with an English influenced language and history. Most Aussie slang doesn't even sound like anything that both American and Brit English would sound like, strangely enough. eg. I feel more comfortable with the SAS in COD than the marines.
This, i get bloody confused when some people say flip flops and all that. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 515 Joined: 23 Jul 2008 | I use American English, but let me just say that I find English English swearing a lot more enjoyable than the typical F-bomb. I dunno about you, but I visualize the act of calling someone a "tosser" as punching a guy in the face, but while wearing a top hat and monocle. You just wouldn't expect it to sound so darn proper. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1796 Joined: 29 Dec 2007 | I write in American English, but speak in English English. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 73 Joined: 1 Sep 2008 | I prefer English English. It's a tricky topic in Australia, though, since, traditionally, we have followed British trends in things such as language, but now are starting to follow America in similar way. It's not uncommon to see things like "gaol" be spelled "jail" and it's becoming rare to see "programme" spelled with the "me" on the end. That said, the whole debate's kind of strange, because the reason Americans spell words with the suffix "ize" rather than "ise" is because that was "correct" English when America was settled, but then British English has developed since those times to use "ise" while the American English has kept the "ize." Then Australia.. we're caught in the middle between both styles, so "anything goes" is pretty much the rule here, at the moment. That said, I'm a traditionalist and much prefer the British English, as well not splitting my infinitives and things like that. |
Vault Legend Posts: 2205 Joined: 30 Jul 2008 |
I'd almost like to disagree with this on principle, but I'm going to try to be rational about it. For one, the word corruption has a very negative connotation to it that I'd rather didn't play so contrary to what I'd like this thread to be about. And from your overall diction, not only do you favor British English (although something of a misnomer, as this form of English is used more universally than just Britain, especially in terms of spelling), but you have a certain scorn of American English. As a matter of fact, everything you've posed on the American English side, is remarkably negative. But, that aside, it is your choice on which to use, so I suppose this entire post is null.
And it's not so much unsophisticated as it is less refined by association rather than fact. Largely because of stereotypes, and usage portrayal among the various medias. Personally, I think American English has its own charms, as does English/British English. But I will give you, if even false, does give the impression of being more refined. (Plus or minus some bloody expressions and wanking about. =P) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1579 Joined: 6 Jun 2008 | Well, um, Im English and I use...drum roll please...'English English'. But then theres quite a lot of variation in 'English English' as well, much as I'm sure there is in American English. Different slang (and accents) in different areas of the country means that quite often people from different areas can end up a bit confused. I live in Cornwall, and sometimes understanding the real hardcore locals can be a nightmare. As Spartanhelmet put it, perhaps British English would be the best phrase |
Copy Clerk Posts: 97 Joined: 13 Mar 2008 | English English prefer both the spelling and the pronunciation of it have no idea why...i try not to be a snob about it. |
Vault Legend Posts: 2205 Joined: 30 Jul 2008 | Just an aside that I find interesting, a majority of the people who've posted on the thread have said English English, but the votes seem closer than the posts would normally give away. Seems you English / British Englishers are more verbal about your votes, whereas the Americans among us favor the more vote-and-run method. That is all, continue. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2163 Joined: 15 Jun 2008 |
There is a reason for the difference with Aluminium. The discover of the element was actually American, and his original submission for the element name was rejected, as not following the naming conventions for elements (I forget what he suggested first- Alumum or something like that.) He then suggested Aluminum. The scientific community again pointed out it should end "nium", not "num" as this was standard for element naming (Polonium, Uranium, Plutonium, etc.). The discoverer refused to change it, so as the rest of the world corrected it, Americans stuck with the discover's name. I'm not sure whom is correct, but I'm tending to side with Aluminium, since it follows the proper conventions for naming elements, and sounds less, well, silly. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1579 Joined: 6 Jun 2008 |
*Puts on 'smug git' face* Just to nit pick, its pronunciation, not pronounciation |
Vault Legend Posts: 2205 Joined: 30 Jul 2008 |
You know, this would probably offend me if I didn't realize (realise?) that I often go out of my way to sound silly. I like both Aluminum and Aluminium, but because I'm so unused to the latter, I often giggle a bit at the inclusion of the second i. Like hearing platinum said platinium. |
On the Record Posts: 5674 Joined: 2 Dec 2007 |
Yeah, barely anyone used the word 'gaol' opposed to the American spelling Jail. Even the papers. Though I think the government still uses the British Gaol. Australia is apart of the Commonwealth so it's nearly the same thing. We didn't drop the 'u' out of most words.
I don't like the words, yak or yuk as laugh either. Yuk sounds more like you're vommiting.
I hate the term 'flip flops'. Never had some get confused when I say 'take the piss'. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4269 Joined: 13 Aug 2008 |
Does anyone do that? I've always thought it was just Platinum. (of course you might have already known that, who am I kidding, you do already know that.) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2163 Joined: 15 Jun 2008 |
I was wondering about that. I kept changing it back and forth, but neither of them looked right. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2770 Joined: 13 Feb 2008 | I usually speak American English, but mainly because I just don't know any of the normal English English terms for things outside of the car stuff. I spell English English though. Colour has a u and you cannot tell me it doesn't, spellcheck. |
Vault Legend Posts: 2205 Joined: 30 Jul 2008 |
No one does, I'm just comparing it to a fictional thing so I feel less silly giggling at Aluminium. It's always been Aluminum to me, so when I heard it was supposedly Aluminium, it seemed as absurd as hearing something like Platinium. Just a hypothetical example.
Just out of curiousity, do you also spell the rubber wheel on the bottom of cars tyre? (It's tire, darnit, no matter what you English folk say it is!) |
Copy Clerk Posts: 60 Joined: 12 Jan 2008 | I use a nasty 50:50 mix of both. At school, we here in Estonia are taught British English. But communicating through the net, tends to be with American English on the part of the people I communicate with. So I can't really vote. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1464 Joined: 15 May 2008 |
You'd know the Carl Barron joke about the Thong >< I've heard people say "There's no such thing as American English". I figure, as long as you know what you mean, it's okay. But I spell jail "gaol" and my "colour" with a "u". DAMN FIREFOX! STOP RED LINING MY ENGLISH!! >< |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2663 Joined: 20 Jul 2008 | Australians get taught English English so I go along with that. It would probably be Australian English with the extra grunts and slang we have added in. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2163 Joined: 15 Jun 2008 |
I giggle slightly almost every time my Aussie fiancee refers to them as "thongs" and not "flip-flops." Or at least grin cheekily. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4269 Joined: 13 Aug 2008 | I'm feeling childish now I guess so...
No you're a hypothetical example! Yeah I'll leave now, I'm to tired to make any proper intelligent arguments... I'll go find another less intelectual thread. |
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This is meant to be a discussion, not an argument, or to say "Which one is better." I'd just like to know who uses what, why, and how you feel about the alternative. And, considering it's only fair to share the opinion you ask of others, my opinion on it, in full.
American English is the one I use. Why? I'm American. Obviousness aside, it's how I was taught, and it's how I had learned. The thing that piques my interest so thoroughly on this one is I've known several Americans and friends who've spelled "Color" with a u, or used "chat up" or "snog" when referring to pick-up lines or making out.
Which boggles me, especially when they seem so adverse to using the American way. Not saying one is better than the other, I'm just wondering how someone could teach themselves away from the way they were originally taught. Maybe if they preferred the other way, perhaps, just seems... I dunno, strange.
As far as English English goes, especially where diction and sentence structure belong, I try to avoid. I'm not familiar with most expressions or phrases, nor am I familiar with the cultural differences. A tin of cookies, or a box of cookies? Crisps or fries? Pub or bar? Crepes or pancakes? I don't know them, so I don't use them.
And lastly, I find some of the phrases to be quite funny. I've mentioned this before, but I find the phrase "snogging" to sound more like something you do with a Kleenex (facial tissue) than with someone you find attractive. Not to say they're wrong, just something about it seems funny to me. I don't really know why.
So, what about you? Which do you use, and does it match your surroundings? Have you picked up expressions from the other?
To anyone planning on insulting either option, you'll likely incur moderator wrath, which honestly doesn't have a home here. All flame-bait or outright flame posts will be reported, and I suggest you report anyone you see flaming to quickly withdraw them from the thread. Thank you, and please keep the thread civil.