The artist in thee

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Has anybody looked at my stuff? :( The link is back on pg. 2... it's cool, though. It sucks.

NewClassic:
To RAKtheUndead:
It's not an offense so much as it is civil disobedience. Not sure if art is anything other than a hobby, so I hesitate in really saying as much as I could. The pieces show a certain attention to detail, but a lack of practice. The only thing that tells me is you think hard on what you're drawing, but still haven't learned how to draw. It's a practiced trait, just like any other, so you can really get a lot from it by practicing. My suggestion is simply drawing things you see. Don't get so hung-up on details at first. Go sit somewhere and draw what you see. A tree, a ball, a swingset-set, a serial rapist. Maybe a houseplant, or a refrigerator.

First of all, you don't have to worry about giving me the harshest treatment possible - art is nothing more than a very minor hobby and not something I have ever considered as a career choice. I'm a student of the natural sciences, rather than one of any artistic bent.

To be honest, the only things I have any desire to draw are machines. Cars, aeroplanes, ships, et cetera. I have no real interest in drawing people - I have much more empathy for machinery anyway. Obviously, I have a problem with that all-important third dimension - probably a lack of practice, more than anything else.

Oh, by the way, I recognise that there are still construction lines and smudges on many of the drawings - I think that shows how much I'm actually interested in drawing. It's a minor thing, something that I could stand to get better at, but not something I consider at all imperative. I don't have a particularly good opinion of my created works by default, so feel free to rip into these drawings as much as possible.

TheNecroswanson:

Alliecat:
For other photoshop users: Be warned! Filters aren't that cool. They are a trap!

Don't know what you mean. This is my fourth image using photoshop's filters and it's worked fine for me so far. I wanted the image to look like a comicesque night scene. It had a fully set up background and everything. I'm pleased with how they worked to create light, shadow, and simulate the visibility of objects in darkness with a light source. Though the light source was a little strong but that was my errror.

Also, I checked out your, I think it was yours, DA, and though I liked it, it fealt too contemporary.

Photoshop filters canbe nice- if you adjust them, and use them sparingly. Using them a lot or as a main part of your picture just shouts out -noob-. (in my opinion, of course)
Contemporary? Can you explain a bit what you mean by that?

I'm really new to this ok, how do I use the spoiler thing? Also, how do you post pictures without linking to Photobucket etc?

Enskie:
I'm really new to this ok, how do I use the spoiler thing? Also, how do you post pictures without linking to Photobucket etc?

For the complete guide:

For the short guide:
If you have the direct URL for the image, the it's just pasting it between image tags. For example:
[IMG]http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravityqg1.jpg[/IMG]

For spoiler tags, it's like images, just with "spoiler" for example:
[spoiler]blah blah[/spoiler] will yield:

To have text, include it after the word but still in the tag, like so:
[spoiler=Blah blah before click]Blah blah after click[/spoiler] will yield:

Hope that helps.

NewClassic:

Enskie:
I'm really new to this ok, how do I use the spoiler thing? Also, how do you post pictures without linking to Photobucket etc?

For the complete guide:

For the short guide:
If you have the direct URL for the image, the it's just pasting it between image tags. For example:
[IMG]http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravityqg1.jpg[/IMG]

For spoiler tags, it's like images, just with "spoiler" for example:
[spoiler]blah blah[/spoiler] will yield:

To have text, include it after the word but still in the tag, like so:
[spoiler=Blah blah before click]Blah blah after click[/spoiler] will yield:

Hope that helps.

Thank you, I was hitting F5 every few seconds, waiting for somebody to respond, I'm kinda hyped up on caffeine right now, so yeah, thank you again, very much appreciated.

ThaBenMan:
Has anybody looked at my stuff? :( The link is back on pg. 2... it's cool, though. It sucks.

I don't think anyone looked at mine either. They were bad but at least the last one was ok. I think.

the monopoly guy:

ThaBenMan:
Has anybody looked at my stuff? :( The link is back on pg. 2... it's cool, though. It sucks.

I don't think anyone looked at mine either. They were bad but at least the last one was ok. I think.

I'm more worried about the fact that half of my stuff is unfinished. But that's my fault.

Now that NewClassic has very kindly provided me with the knowledge required to upload images, I am free to do so.







Time for more of NewClassic being pretentious full of himself helpful?

To RAKtheUndead
As I suggested, you very clearly lack the practice to be showing the level of detail you're aiming for. As such, you really should practice the smaller, easier stuff before going onto concept art and the like. Especially when dealing with technology, considering how very detail oriented they are. Especially in concept-format you've drawn.

To practice, I'd say start by drawing machinery you can look at. Sit down in front of something, like a little robo-spider and draw it exactly as you see it. Look very carefully as what connects where, how it connects, and why it connects. When you come to understand the machinery from an artistic standpoint, then you can really get the groundwork for the more complicated stuff. Start small, it's always the best place to start.

To The Monopoly Guy
Your drawing was interesting, but that's not much else to say on it. It's foreground-intensive, it lacks shading, and doesn't have a lot of definition to it. The fact that you have to label it means you're not expressing the image, artistically, that you're trying to. The best way to fix this is probably to reference everything. Seriously, everything.

To ThaBenMan
You angular line-work reminds me quite a bit of Samurai Jack. I like the simplicity and still the attention to detail. The only thing I can suggest is practice more on shading, as well as referencing humans (although, oddly, only those facing the point of view. The 3/4 folks are fine). I absolutely love the fish people. Seriously, they're awesome.

That's it for me, more to come later after I eat.

the monopoly guy:

ThaBenMan:
Has anybody looked at my stuff? :( The link is back on pg. 2... it's cool, though. It sucks.

I don't think anyone looked at mine either. They were bad but at least the last one was ok. I think.

Yeah, the dinosaur skull is pretty sweet. And I like the stumpy thing, it's funny, a clever idea.

And NewClassic, thank you for the feedback. I agree with your suggestions for improvement. I very rarely work with any sort of reference, so some things are bound to be off. And I just plain don't like shading XD I wish I could show you some stuff from classes where I was forced to shade and draw from life (and the stuff in that link is over 6 yrs old, I like to think I've improved quite a lot).
I like your coffee shop pic, reminds me of this time I had to draw the interior of the student union for class once.

And Enskie, very nice stuff there! I especially love the drawing of the warrior. And your photoshop stuff is very cool, that's the sort of stuff I'm ignorant of and would love to learn about.

NewClassic:
Time for more of NewClassic being pretentious full of himself helpful?

I smell an "I bet he's Cockney" situation a-brewing...

Ok, I also did some poetry a while back (ok, I still dabble in it).

Those are about 1/8th of the songs, and there's at least 100+ poems (other than songs)in assorted formats that I haven't put up here. If you want the rest, then they can be found here: http://enskie.deviantart.com/.

My first (good) abstract

My internet is being gay atm so I'll put some other stuff up when I get home

Sorry about the crap quality.. Its a jpeg *shudder*

NewClassic:
To The Monopoly Guy
Your drawing was interesting, but that's not much else to say on it. It's foreground-intensive, it lacks shading, and doesn't have a lot of definition to it. The fact that you have to label it means you're not expressing the image, artistically, that you're trying to. The best way to fix this is probably to reference everything. Seriously, everything.

*ahem*
What? I don't get the labeling thing and the referenceing.
Also, it only took me about five minutes I used notebook paper, just a quick sketch.

unabomberman:
Thanks NewClassic.

Image below

Got it done in a few minutes. It's very, very minimum cartoonized linework. Tell me what you think people.

Note: The hands are fugly, I know. Again, I was in a hurry and sketched it pretty quick.

The right one is a great angle! Perfectly drawn. I am still trying to adjust myself to that >.<;;

Enskie:
Now that NewClassic has very kindly provided me with the knowledge required to upload images, I am free to do so.







Really good with color. I'm impressed. ^_^
I really like the photography and the way you photoshop it. It looks wonderful.

Zen- That abstract is really pretty. I am really into the graphic/design style of work- especially when it has words incorporated into it somehow.

my own personal preference, would be to have some of it stick out from the muted quality of it. It's like you put a low-contract filter over it, and I wanted some of the flower to free it's way out of the overlay and be sharp.

Alliecat:
Zen- That abstract is really pretty. I am really into the graphic/design style of work- especially when it has words incorporated into it somehow.

my own personal preference, would be to have some of it stick out from the muted quality of it. It's like you put a low-contract filter over it, and I wanted some of the flower to free it's way out of the overlay and be sharp.

Its the jpeg.. I swear!!

You see a flower in that! Intresting

RAKtheUndead:

meatloaf231:

Monkfish Acc.:
Labyrinth, you get no kudos. You are clearly some sort of machine, or genetic experiment, designed to draw so well that it just becomes unfair. I blame science. Blast you, science!

Seriously. Nobody can be that well-learned, well-spoken, skilled at instrument(s), a great artist, and yet be that young.

She's a robot. Or a witch. Or a robot witch.

I'm just waiting for evidence of scientific talent before I condemn her for witchcraft (but secretly revere her as a goddess). Science is my yardstick of real talent.

To further my ego trip.. yes, co-incidentally. I'm very good at science, mostly because I have an analytical mind, huge amounts of curiosity, creativity and a wide general scientific knowledge and understanding. I also read and understand articles in scientific magazines and journals, such as Scientific American. Bow down, ye mere mortals.

Enskie your stuff is fantastic. I love the Ministery of Truth thing. Really calls out to my angsty political irritation. The use of colour is good, along with that of contrast.

Alliecat:
Labrynth: Your Shading and contrasting is really good. You have lights and darks down. Are you using a live model for these pictures, or a magazine picture? Magazine are flat, and flatten out the model, so sometimes, the translation can get skewered- watch out!
Don't be afraid to either get rid of all your lines, or translate everything into line work. (the lack of definition around your face in the profile picture could be worked a bit more)

For the figuratives, it was images off of DeviantArt. My self portrait was done with a mirror, and I've done other sketches not posted yet from life. As for the flat nature, I don't believe that the scanning process helps there. It uses a different light to the one I draw with and view with, so images appear in a different way. Yes. I'm blaming equipment. Go me. Thanks for your feedback, and for the advice too. I need that.

Enskie, that knight is bad ass, and the photoshops are rather pretty.

This thread is awesome and you people are awesome for making it so awesome. I may post stuff tomorrow once I am not nearly comatose from fatigue.

Ares Tyr:
Enskie, that knight is bad ass, and the photoshops are rather pretty.

Labyrinth:

Enskie your stuff is fantastic. I love the Ministery of Truth thing. Really calls out to my angsty political irritation.

Alliecat:

Enskie:
Now that NewClassic has very kindly provided me with the knowledge required to upload images, I am free to do so.







Really good with color. I'm impressed. ^_^
I really like the photography and the way you photoshop it. It looks wonderful.

Firstly, massive ego-trip right there...

Umm..wow, people like this stuff. I was told by quite a few people to get some 'real' skill and make some of my own artwork because, with exception to the "Ministry Of Truth" image, all of those are just edits in Photoshop CS2, with the Minitrue(readers of 1984 ought to get that) one having been made from scratch, though again in CS2.

Thank you very much, I am both gladdened and slightly stunned that people genuinely took an interest in my work and found it to be decent.

Enskie:
Firstly, massive ego-trip right there...

Umm..wow, people like this stuff. I was told by quite a few people to get some 'real' skill and make some of my own artwork because, with exception to the "Ministry Of Truth" image, all of those are just edits in Photoshop CS2, with the Minitrue(readers of 1984 ought to get that) one having been made from scratch, though again in CS2.

Thank you very much, I am both gladdened and slightly stunned that people genuinely took an interest in my work and found it to be decent.

It's no less of an artform to be able to edit images than it is to create them. They're just different thing to try. Photomanipluation has amounted some amazing art in its time as a possibility.

Enskie:

Ares Tyr:
Enskie, that knight is bad ass, and the photoshops are rather pretty.

Labyrinth:

Enskie your stuff is fantastic. I love the Ministery of Truth thing. Really calls out to my angsty political irritation.

Alliecat:

Enskie:
Now that NewClassic has very kindly provided me with the knowledge required to upload images, I am free to do so.







Really good with color. I'm impressed. ^_^
I really like the photography and the way you photoshop it. It looks wonderful.

Firstly, massive ego-trip right there...

Umm..wow, people like this stuff. I was told by quite a few people to get some 'real' skill and make some of my own artwork because, with exception to the "Ministry Of Truth" image, all of those are just edits in Photoshop CS2, with the Minitrue(readers of 1984 ought to get that) one having been made from scratch, though again in CS2.

Thank you very much, I am both gladdened and slightly stunned that people genuinely took an interest in my work and found it to be decent.

I get told all the time my art is weird, rip-off or other things like-'contemporary' (which I'm still waiting for that person to explain in his own words)

Art to me is creating/taking images and making them something worthy to look at and think about. I am not a big fan of purely conceptual art, nor am I a fan of purely visual art. It has to be a combination. (I also really like glamour, fashion, stylized art. hard to explain- very graphic, design oriented art)

And so, your art made me smile.

Alliecat:

TheNecroswanson:

Alliecat:
For other photoshop users: Be warned! Filters aren't that cool. They are a trap!

Don't know what you mean. This is my fourth image using photoshop's filters and it's worked fine for me so far. I wanted the image to look like a comicesque night scene. It had a fully set up background and everything. I'm pleased with how they worked to create light, shadow, and simulate the visibility of objects in darkness with a light source. Though the light source was a little strong but that was my errror.

Also, I checked out your, I think it was yours, DA, and though I liked it, it fealt too contemporary.

Photoshop filters canbe nice- if you adjust them, and use them sparingly. Using them a lot or as a main part of your picture just shouts out -noob-. (in my opinion, of course)
Contemporary? Can you explain a bit what you mean by that?

Think as if everyone started painting Picasso pictures. That would make it contemporary, the "in thing" to do. Though I liked your gallery, it just seemed to be on par with, well, a good 65% of what I see, and that's just me, on DA and other web sites. It feels like it doesn't add anything new or original. It just feels like you have a lot of potential, and it goes to your standard Betty Page fan art. (simple analogy, not saying anything)
DISCLAIMER: I know my art is just as goofy and contemporary from an anime standpoint as well. I just suck that badly :P.

Anyone out there agree with me that DA needs to put a ban on Naruto fan art? Seriously, it's like.....80% of the damn site.

Labyrinth:

RAKtheUndead:

meatloaf231:

Monkfish Acc.:
Labyrinth, you get no kudos. You are clearly some sort of machine, or genetic experiment, designed to draw so well that it just becomes unfair. I blame science. Blast you, science!

Seriously. Nobody can be that well-learned, well-spoken, skilled at instrument(s), a great artist, and yet be that young.

She's a robot. Or a witch. Or a robot witch.

I'm just waiting for evidence of scientific talent before I condemn her for witchcraft (but secretly revere her as a goddess). Science is my yardstick of real talent.

To further my ego trip.. yes, co-incidentally. I'm very good at science, mostly because I have an analytical mind, huge amounts of curiosity, creativity and a wide general scientific knowledge and understanding. I also read and understand articles in scientific magazines and journals, such as Scientific American. Bow down, ye mere mortals.

Actually, there is one more criterion that I have to analyse before I decide whether condemnation of witchcraft or worship is due. Cars - your opinion, please.

Enskie, well done on the image manipulation. Skilfully done.

NewClassic, obviously, a lot of talent there.

TheNecroswanson:

Anyone out there agree with me that DA needs to put a ban on Naruto fan art? Seriously, it's like.....80% of the damn site.

There just needs to be a ban on Naruto full stop.

TheNecroswanson:

Alliecat:

TheNecroswanson:

Don't know what you mean. This is my fourth image using photoshop's filters and it's worked fine for me so far. I wanted the image to look like a comicesque night scene. It had a fully set up background and everything. I'm pleased with how they worked to create light, shadow, and simulate the visibility of objects in darkness with a light source. Though the light source was a little strong but that was my errror.

Also, I checked out your, I think it was yours, DA, and though I liked it, it fealt too contemporary.

Photoshop filters canbe nice- if you adjust them, and use them sparingly. Using them a lot or as a main part of your picture just shouts out -noob-. (in my opinion, of course)
Contemporary? Can you explain a bit what you mean by that?

Think as if everyone started painting Picasso pictures. That would make it contemporary, the "in thing" to do. Though I liked your gallery, it just seemed to be on par with, well, a good 65% of what I see, and that's just me, on DA and other web sites. It feels like it doesn't add anything new or original. It just feels like you have a lot of potential, and it goes to your standard Betty Page fan art. (simple analogy, not saying anything)
DISCLAIMER: I know my art is just as goofy and contemporary from an anime standpoint as well. I just suck that badly :P.

Anyone out there agree with me that DA needs to put a ban on Naruto fan art? Seriously, it's like.....80% of the damn site.

OH GOD YES! I'm sick of signing onto Deviant art and it tells me- This is the new populare art! -Naruto-Naruto_naruto_naruto-Naruto
NooooooooOO!!!!

My latest visual offering.

Did this in about an hour (Minus inking) She's a support character I'm going to use in the manga I'm planning. ^_^

There's a full explination about my mangas story on "Ellie's" image on dA.
http://chaerg-major.deviantart.com/art/Elizabeth-Inked-99813743

Enjoy =D

PS: They are better in higher res.. Blame Jpeg =(

zen5887:

Enjoy =D

PS: They are better in higher res.. Blame Jpeg =(

I really like this one.

Nobody looked at mine!

Marsha Marsha Marsha!

Here's a poem I did a while back.

The Glass Eater

Upon the faulted floor my body stood
The rotten wood around it reeling
A liven body standing there
Straining one soft glance against the ceiling

Blackened walls ignite the mist and fog
So the sated lake and lungs are seared
Long the body beheld the flame
But turned away and through the shadows peered

In the coldest corner the child slept
Fading by a breath of balmy light
The body grasped her in its arms
And awoke her to its depraved delight

An innocent sigh played across her lips
But writhing within his grip she cries
So quickly tore herself away
And tried to rend both her widening eyes

He lashed her hands behind her back
And threw her down upon a chair
He gazed into her flawless face
Using his hand he parts her lovely hair

"Tell me child what horrors have thy known?"
Said I, jaws twisted in a smile
"Where has thy sinless being been?"
Her soul shrieked and shuddered all the while

"I have fallen from out the fallow air
The soundless plane of thorns and thunder
Long ago, I was happy there
An exalted realm of waning wonder

My village grew upon a solid stone
With water on every single side
Oh, how many a pleasant home
Housed many a people of dreadful pride

I was conceived in the excess of joy
And laughed as an infant at play
Dancing in the forests wild
My parents praised my perfection each day

Through the great labyrinths of love I wandered
I had stopped by an orchard to sing
From a flower emerged a moth
With four dark signs upon his wing

Fluttering, then he lands within my palm
And rasping loud he whispers with glee
'Long have I been waiting for you
Little one, I wish to follow with thee'

'Then come' I said, 'the sun has long since set
And the pallid moon is ringing high'
The moth pursued my fleeting form
A loathsome look within each gleaming eye

Coming home, I had gone to lie in bed
Nodding in the covers to keep warm
While the moth had lain awake
To perch upon my mother's sleeping form

She speaks into the sheets as it digs deep
Rolling round she drops upon the floor
Father forced his mind to follow
While I had flown through the bedroom door

'Father! Father!' I could not stop crying
'The noxious insect; nesting, breeding
Heaven help me, I was betrayed
Mother's dead body will not stop bleeding!'

A great red trunk had grown from out her wound
Each muscle became a spreading root
Bones and limbs were the tree's branches
Each produced a succulent swollen fruit

And many of these fruits began to burst
Another nest of dark moths within
These moths would fly to other homes
So more trees would begin to sprout again

A cloud of moths had swept throughout the land
Trees grew from every human being
I had escaped to the seashore
By then I could not endure seeing"

"Oh little girl, I have grown to fear thee
And that burning curse within thine eyes
Had you died or art thou dying?
Your sullen looks betray thy fiendish lies"

"No not dead yet sir, but wishful thinking
For lonely atop those dunes I dwelt
With nothing left but sand to eat
I prayed the pain would end the pangs I felt

And there were no more loaves of stone to break
The great heat had left me freshly scarred
My lesions were forced wide open
Where blood touched, there would form a single shard

And these shards resembled frozen water
I ate glass that formed beneath my feet
Eating until my legs turned dry
The taste was just as sharp as it was sweet

By these glass bits betwixt my parted lips
My torment persisted all the same
Turning towards the fatal forest
Onto the massive graveyard I came

My homeland was its pulsing heart
And there my mother's tree still grew,
Now the size of a great tower
The bark had taken a hideous hue

The sunken wood shrank back beneath my touch,
I departed through the yawning maw
Searching within the vast caverns
What I found filled me with horror and awe

My moth had amassed with every man
Grown with every single man consumed
Every man and every mother
That lay buried beneath the trees entombed

With an infected gaze he drew me near
And laughing loud, spoke to me once more
"I wish to thank thee little girl
For all your selfless service wrought before."

His raw flesh spills from out the boiling bone
Ripping forth and bursting at its seams
A human body breaks anew
To beguile my broken mind to dreams

It was by your touch that I awakened
Yet you are not this man I once knew
Nor is this the godless chamber
In which all my terrors had turned true"

Her heaving voice was choked in labored breath
She collapsed and wept against my feet
Broke both her bonds to clasp my hands
She pulled me low so both our lips could meet

Crawling things with dead legs and beating wings
Poured from out her throat and onto mine
The body bent forward his head
To see how many red roots intertwine

Here's some thing I made during one of my classes on Friday. Make of it what you will.

EDIT: Woah... Cainbrain... that is one crazy sweet poem there.

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