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Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1617 Joined: 19 Jun 2008     | |
BANNED  Posts: 6317 Joined: 29 Nov 2007     | Um.... The Jetsons was far from a realistic vision of the future. User was banned for: The hypocrisy is KILLING me.. (Permanent) |
Muckraker  Posts: 267 Joined: 6 Nov 2007     | Greed happened. Pride happened. Fast food happened. |
BANNED  Posts: 829 Joined: 9 Aug 2008    | Have a friend run around and scream "WITCH!!" in your face all day and then tell me how much more competent people were back then. User was banned for: Half-wits to the left of me, Wankers to the right. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1947 Joined: 22 Jul 2008    | Eh, but in the 80's did you expect the internet? Or iPods? As to governments being concerned about only money or kids being uneducated, would you really prefer we return to a feudal state? Or even 18th Century monarchies? Sure, governments aren't perfect now, but what has changed is that individual people matter a lot more than they used to. At least in Westernized countries. But yes, I still want my jet pack. EDIT: as for racism and homophobia, you must be kidding. The leaps and bounds forward in social acceptance are staggering. Can you imagine a full scale pogrom taking place today? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1617 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 | Nice to see some responses, but perhaps I didn't quite explain myself enough, as a couple of posters seem to think I'm having a go. Give me an hour or two and I'll see if I can clarify my thoughts a little more. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 804 Joined: 5 Mar 2008    |
At this point I think we'll be lucky if we end up in Blade Runner world. Anyway, what I think the world needs is an end to oil, gas, and coal. It made the 20th century too easy. Dig a hole and get all the energy you need. Whee. Humanity was able to push too far, too fast. For Crispy's sake, a century ago we were barely flying, now we're close to going to Mars. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2517 Joined: 24 Sep 2008    | What happened is that we turned control of technological development entirely over to massive profit-seeking corporations and trusted them to build a better future; they did, but only for themselves. |
On the Record  Posts: 7420 Joined: 23 Dec 2007    |
George Bush happened. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3448 Joined: 8 May 2008    | The Escapist happened. Thats a pretty sweet invention. |
BANNED Posts: 829 Joined: 9 Aug 2008 |
Yes. They don't bound/gag me in a bag or drop me in a river to see if I float. User was banned for: Half-wits to the left of me, Wankers to the right. (Permanent) |
Muckraker Posts: 267 Joined: 6 Nov 2007 |
Is it bad that I rate them in ascending order? |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 59 Joined: 6 Oct 2008 | I doubt 4chan has anything to do with the state of the World... |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1617 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 | IvoryAgent: No, they'll just blow you up, or stick you in a hole, torture and then behead you. Religious fruitcakery isn't exactly what I was thinking about, however. I was more bemoaning that during the 80s, people were told that post-2000 would be the pinnacle of human existence, a utopia of science, faith and society. Instead, the world is pretty much a cesspool, divided, inconsistent, hypocritical, self-absorbed and, as far as the eye can see, getting worse. [Edit] Yes, I'm fully aware this is a generalisation, and that individuals can't be tarred with the same brush, but I'm discussing generalities, not specific people or places. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4582 Joined: 22 Jun 2008     |
Eh, Not really. We don't even vote for the president. We vote for a panel of people...WHO THEN ELECT THE PRESIDENT. That was shocking today. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1127 Joined: 6 Oct 2008   |
Farenheit 451 |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1370 Joined: 28 Apr 2008   | We've had a flying car since the 50's (it's not very practical, you have to take it to the air port and put wings and a tail on a 2 seater car to fly it.) |
BANNED  Posts: 1891 Joined: 26 Mar 2008   | I still dream of a Blade Runner future. Its dark, its grim but its interesting as hell. User was banned for: Poll: Round 4 - North: (1) Turbine vs (2) Valve. (Permanent) |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 91 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 | and you expected different? first off, the world is find, sure we have a lot of dumbasses floating about. But 1, don't blame politicians, blame your friends, your father, your mother, yourself. You were scared for your pocketbooks in the 80s and that is why you cut federal funding for social programs that helped poor and middle class. The education system has always been broken, regardless of time, and special interest groups are still king. But you have to look at the good, China, India, and lots of other countries lives have improved, increased trade has made massive wars far less likely. The world is fine, but sure i would like it too improve, but i can only expect so much from the idiots who say "men and women are equal" yet women don't have to sign up for the draft. The same idiots who support NAACP supremest racial promotion, if blacks truly are equal, why do they need a holding hand, and why can't whites have access to these same things, why can't a white guy say nigger if he is not in any way racist? while a black guy can say honkies if he is in fact racist. The women who want equal pay while having 6 health care centers while men have none even though men are 5% more likely to die from a major disease. While women and children first still exists, These people that think outsourcing is evil. Are you saying that the people of china don't deserve to get themselves out of utter poverty, thanks assholes. Before we can advanced we have to get rid of racial pride, sex pride, pride of country, national tribalism. Let people dump all the stupid shit they absorbed from their brainless parents and maybe we would have a better world |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 830 Joined: 12 Aug 2008     | I too miss 80's music. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1011 Joined: 1 Dec 2007  | It's the public's misunderstanding of science. Science is not some linear path that you can research along specific lines and get results. It's utterly random, and sometimes you lay the foundations for solar panels (Einstien) while other times you just make great contributions to our knowledge that don't have applications yet (Hubble). |
BANNED Posts: 829 Joined: 9 Aug 2008 |
Really? Tell me how that feels, as you have experienced it before. In regards to your original post, I think your problem is that you were too "hyped", as it were. "When the year 2000 comes, all the world's problems will be solved, war will cease, famine and disease will die off, and all of man's hatreds will be vaporized in an instant. God, if I was around when they told us that, I'd be fucking disappointed too. Can't blame ya. User was banned for: Half-wits to the left of me, Wankers to the right. (Permanent) |
BANNED Posts: 1891 Joined: 26 Mar 2008 | Robot sex slaves? Sounds real nice. I'm sure the Japanese will develop that soon. User was banned for: Poll: Round 4 - North: (1) Turbine vs (2) Valve. (Permanent) |
Beat Writer  Posts: 187 Joined: 8 May 2008  | @ Jazzy love yes, you're right. If people are truly equal and demand that they are treated as such, then you deserve no more assistence programs than your white male counterpart. As long as we still look at people in terms of race, gender, sexuality, income level, appearence, nationality, religion, and things like that, people will always be broken. Once we can just see people and see well, people, then our problems cease to exist. Once that happens, the world will be a perfect, peaceful, pristine, a true utopia. Outsourcing is bad because it promotes a foreign economy over our own, to line the pockets of the excessively rich, over the pockets of the people. But yes China has the right to drag itself out of poverty, not have the world police drag it out of poverty. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 589 Joined: 2 Jun 2008     | I sometimes imagine what the world would be like if it were a Utopia. But thats nearly impossible goal. Every culture would have to assimilate into one dominamt culture. I can't see how we can achieve this peacefully. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 425 Joined: 3 Jan 2008   |
The human race will be extinct, but at least it's an awesome way to become extinct. Anyways, there's a difference between near and distant future. but hell, I say we came a long way since the Commodore 64. |
On the Record  Posts: 5709 Joined: 2 Dec 2007    | The human race set itself goals. Things to do before 2000: We failed everyone of those goals. The human race sucks or is too lazy. Most likely the latter. |
On the Record  Posts: 6079 Joined: 12 Apr 2008    | Thing is, the people of the 80's were too optimistic, they didn't think of the growing population and overcrowding. The rich get richer and the poor gets poorer, the only thing thats changed is now the poor people realise it. People always focus on what they dont have, a single person has infinite wants, thats one of the first lessons of economics. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 602 Joined: 17 Apr 2008 |
when was the meeting to decide this? because my vote would of definately been for things like; universal health care, cure for AIDs and ending world hunger. not that i disagree with your point, we failed everyone of those goals too. |
BANNED  Posts: 3682 Joined: 23 Oct 2007    | In the 1980s, they would have never believed that this: would have a slower processing speed than this: User was banned for: New Year's Eve...New Year resolutions. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1947 Joined: 22 Jul 2008 |
I mean individual people matter in the fact that your here, on a games forum, discussing this with me rather than working to death in a field or a factory somewhere. |
Wordsmith Extraordinaire  Posts: 11867 Joined: 13 Feb 2008   |
The Roleplaying Game Traveller, released around then, had computers that calculated the jump to light speed. Each took up a 6"x2"x2" rectangle (about man sized) on board the ship and boasted a huge 16K memory. |
Red Guard  Posts: 5373 Joined: 14 Oct 2007  |
Free Market happened. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1519 Joined: 16 May 2008   |
.. *hug* |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 789 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 | ...Feh? You don't think we've come far enough technologically? In the past fifty years we've advanced more than in any other period in human history... and most of it put together. We can go to space and back. We can contact anyone, anywhere, at any time, and see them through a video screen. The miniature tvs and super stereos that we carry around in out pockets everyday without giving them a second thought seem one hell of a lot more useful than flying cars to me. |
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I grew up in the 80s, and my childhood was filled with visions of a post-2000 earth, where we'd be moving around in flying cars, wearing strange metallic jumpsuits, travelling to mars for holidays or even living there, robots to do my work for me so all I'd have to do each day is wake up, have some fun and spend my pay...
What happened? Where did human development get so derailled that our kids aren't as competent as uneducated commoners from 200 years ago, our political systems primarily concentrate on making themselves money and staying in power, no ones gives two shits about anything other than what affects them directly. Racism and homophobia, poverty and disease still run rampant...
Every day I read the paper and shake my head. Is there anything that can be done to give humanity a big shove into sustainable and self-aware development, or are we doomed to end up in a Blade Runner-like existence?