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Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 931 Joined: 17 Sep 2008     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1009 Joined: 22 Sep 2008     | Torrents in general? I use them all the time. They're great. Using torrents to engage in illegal file-sharing? I don't pirate games, music, movies, or anything else, although I admit I used to. I've gained a new-found respect for artists, especially game developers, who deserve to be compensated for their efforts, and I'd rather not contribute to the problem of piracy myself. There's enough cheap scumbags out there already and I'd rather not be come of them. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 909 Joined: 15 Jun 2008     | I torrented Bioshock a while back. But I only kept it for two days and decided it was not fun enough to buy and deleted it. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 931 Joined: 17 Sep 2008 |
If it was fun would you have bought it knowing you already had a copy? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2422 Joined: 6 Mar 2008     | I usually download several albums per day from assorted places. I don't see it as stealing because I already spend (literally) every penny I have on music & games. If I wanted to buy every CD I've ever "pirated" I'd have to take out several large loans. Basically, I buy the ones I think are of the highest quality on vinyl and keep the rest in non-physical form. Anti-download fundamentalists are free to have a go, but bear in mind that I buy several hundred CDs each year and could not physically buy any more. I also use torrents for acquiring PSX ISOs, old PC games and any noteworthy adventure games which aren't available where I live (read: most of them). I don't regard this as stealing either because everything I torrent is either unattainable or out of print. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 909 Joined: 15 Jun 2008 |
Running it off my external harddrive meant I had to use lower graphic quality, it slowed it down a lot. So if I had enjoyed it enough I might have picked up a physical copy. That's what happened with Spore. Though Spore was more because I wanted access to Sporepedia. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 765 Joined: 9 Apr 2008    | I don't get the pun. And no, my university has some kind of LAN powered file sharing thingy, so that's where I download most stuff. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 103 Joined: 28 Mar 2008    | I torrent but only Hentai games, but only because they don't come to the states or I don't want others to know that I (a girl) like hentai. |
Paperboy  Posts: 46 Joined: 9 Oct 2008  |
so, youre saying if i spend all my money on my 2004 honda, but im not satisfied with my possession its not stealing to go to the mercedes dealership and steal a few simply because i cant afford any more cars? interesting perspective ;) i cant bring myself to torrent music, mainly because i know what its like to try and sell albums. i do, however, use a certain private tracker to download movies. no current stuff, just foreign, B movies, old movies, and impossible to find stuff |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 611 Joined: 20 Apr 2008  |
Wear your vice with pride! And yes, Please do explain the pun. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 931 Joined: 17 Sep 2008 |
The pun is a lie. LOLOLOLOLOL... dear god what have i become?!?! I torrent things which are no longer available, like ep's and albums from a bands previous projects which didn't make it far enough to have a steady shelf presense. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 931 Joined: 17 Sep 2008 |
Sorry for double post and is that sarcasm? uTorrent is one of the most popular torrenting programs. Hence "Do you torrent?" in joke form would be "Do uTorrent?". |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1237 Joined: 31 Jul 2008   | Music and movies only. Even then, not that much. I pretty much have everything I want. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2538 Joined: 29 Mar 2008   | Piracy is wrong |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1015 Joined: 4 Dec 2007  |
That's a pretty weird pun... It would be way better if you changed the title to "Do uTorrent?" |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 523 Joined: 18 Aug 2008     | Yes. That is all. Also, that's not a u, it's the greek letter mu, symbol for the SI prefix micro-. as in, micro-torrent. Because that's it's name. Lerns you some Greeks, yo. |
On the Record  Posts: 5542 Joined: 13 Aug 2008    | I used to torrent games until I got a cease and desist letter. Now the only things I torrent are things I cannot get otherwise. Also, I torrented .pdf copies of some books I already own so I could put them on an e-Reader device. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 103 Joined: 28 Mar 2008 | Thanks I will |
Anonymous Source Posts: 5 Joined: 8 May 2008 | Right and wrong are values to some people, to me they are perspectives. No I'm not being serious, to respond to the thread, yes |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2422 Joined: 6 Mar 2008 |
Not if you could make a perfect copy of those Mercedes cars without physically removing them from the dealership... There is a tangible difference between downloading a duplicate and taking a CD/game/movie from a shop. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2538 Joined: 29 Mar 2008 | not really harhol. You, by making that copy, have taken food out of several workers' mouths. Including assembly engineers, designers, painters and electricians. all these people dont get to eat tonight because you didn't want to pay for your car |
Muckraker  Posts: 298 Joined: 10 Aug 2008   | I torrent stuff. It's a great way of getting stuff that is no longer available to buy. Also it's good for checking stuff out before giving people my money, No longer do I have to buy an album to discover that it has one good song out of 12. And equating stealing a car with downloading music is crap. Before you buy a car you can take it for a good testdrive and get a feel for it and test it all you want, Try standing in a CD shop and asking them if you can stand there for an hour and listen to all the songs a couple of times to make sure you like them before giving them your money. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 437 Joined: 6 Aug 2008 | Yes, I do. But only for things that I can't get anywhere else anymore, such as really old games and albums by bands that have broken up. |
On the Record Posts: 5542 Joined: 13 Aug 2008 | I will admit that the comparison of stealing cars and downloading music is not a valid comparison. Plus, if you download an album or game and then proceed to buy a regular copy of it, then it balances out. HOWEVER, you have to make sure that you buy a copy if you like it, delete it if you don't. Otherwise, it could be argued to be stealing. |
Paperboy Posts: 46 Joined: 9 Oct 2008 |
i see no difference. you dont legally have a right to possess those items, regardless of whether or not they are tangible. minus a jewel case and foldout hard copies are the same as copies you have on your HD. sheesh, i feel like ive been hearing this argument alot lately. i quit. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1587 Joined: 10 Sep 2008  | I've never used torrents just because I hear they carry alot of viruses. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 931 Joined: 17 Sep 2008 | Just to clear things up: Note. This is not a place to let it be know how righteous you think you are.
Oh and thanks for this "
I've always said it as "you-torrent". Use the edit button, you did bad. EDIT: Fixed my semi-flame. "My only criticism, learn some english." |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1062 Joined: 17 Jul 2008 |
That is exactly what I do. Game companies aren't the scum that the RIAA and MPAA are ('cept EA, but there is still time for them to not reach the dark side). If a game is good, I buy it, even if I already beat it, and never open the box.
Always some Anti-p2per has to make the SAME damn example every time. Never in the history of p2p has some one *stolen* anything. What is being traded is information. Information is infinitely replicable, and can be free or cost money for the original owner to share with others. The owner never forgets his version, but now some one else knows it as well. Does this sound like shoplifting at all? No. There is a reason that no one has been sued for stealing. It's "copyright infringement." I personally will copy and download anything I possibly can. If its on a disk, I'll have it for myself, or for any friend who wants his share. Does this mean I'm stealing? Hell no. I have a bookcase stuffed full with movies and games. I am very responsible with what I download. Just because I can have it for free does not mean that the creators do not deserve their fair share. It's when the creators ask too much, make it unavailable, or in a format I will not support (DRM) that they don't get my compensation. I'm getting what I want, and voting with my dollar what I want to see more of, and less of. |
Paperboy Posts: 46 Joined: 9 Oct 2008 |
hey, i said i torrent. i torrent because i DONT FEEL LIKE PAYING. i have the money to buy a copy of this hard to find DVD off of Ebay for $60. instead, i do some "copyright infringing" and DL it for free. without paying. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1011 Joined: 1 Dec 2007    |
So I should have to pay the difference in wages to people I beat out for promotion! Brilliance! |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3664 Joined: 21 Jan 2008   | I don't like torrents, so no, I don't. I've had some rather bad experiences with them... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2638 Joined: 1 Aug 2008  | Yes indeed, I wasn't going to pay 60 bucks just to be able to edit my office word 2007 documents for school(trial ran out and you can't even copy/paste from it) so why not download a key to unlock it? Or if i've seen a movie in theaters or have a copy and just want one on my lappytop for my breaks at school why not download it. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 931 Joined: 17 Sep 2008 |
Virus? |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 366 Joined: 13 Aug 2008     |
For the Microsoft Word issue, you could always just use OpenOffice.org, which is free. I prefer it over Word. I don't use torrents. Though I could see a use for them if whatever you want is too obscure to normally find, I would still feel like I was cheating the artist/programmer/maker_dude out of the money for their services. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2538 Joined: 29 Mar 2008 | im sorry perfectimo, let me retry No, I don't use torrents because I view copyright violations as wrong, and will have no part of them |
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Just wondering if people torrent? Wanted to know if you think it is worse than single file downloading because when you torrent you can just get whole albums and discograohies compared to basically "sampling" what the band is like? This question extends to all forms of torrents, not just music based ones.