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Beat Writer  Posts: 158 Joined: 1 Oct 2008     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2641 Joined: 2 Aug 2008     |
And god-fucking-crazy, like Carrey was. He should laugh all the time, and be hysterical and maniacal. Although Johhny Depp could fit that well. Hell, Johnny Depp would complete any role with perfection. |
On the Record  Posts: 5174 Joined: 21 Aug 2008     | it's been said, but johnny Depp or Hugh Laurie. Hell even get someone new-ish, fresh talent doesn't even get a chance anymore in blockbusters |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1146 Joined: 27 Aug 2008     |
Ooh, I like this one. Or:
Why can't we have a black evil genius? Send people for a loop, that's for sure. |
Paperboy  Posts: 30 Joined: 27 Oct 2008     | Ace Ventura! Yeah yeah, I know... |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 380 Joined: 18 Sep 2008   | I just can't honestly say that I'd like to see Johnny Depp as the riddler but then again I may be wrong...there is definitely a chance that he can make it amazing and quite possibly steal the spotlight from other main roles -- as there is with any actor. If he did end up cast, I don't see it as the end of the world, I think Johnny can do it well, just not best. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1054 Joined: 14 Dec 2007   | Much as I would hate to see Riddler in the new movie (too goofy, same thing with The Penguin), if I had to choose somebody to play him I would pick.... John Cleese. Think about it and try to make your brain NOT explode. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 72 Joined: 1 Sep 2008  | i think riddler should be held back till they do bane then use him as the second string villain coz riddler on venom was a far scarier riddler than the usual kind. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1663 Joined: 15 Oct 2008    |
I think what really killed that movie was the Two-Face that was scared by Peptmo Bismol. Everything else was just digging the grave. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 151 Joined: 27 Oct 2008    | While I do think that Carey CAN play a good Riddler, Batman Forever was already poorly cast enough along with sub-par dialog, so that not even Carey's best efforts could do anything to save the movie. If they cast him again, I wouldn't mind at all(he CAN do drama, watch Eternal Sunshine on the Spotless Mind), but I'm sure someone different will be used. If I were to vote, I'm agreeing with the guys who've said either Edward Norton or Jack Black. I think they would do great as well. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1065 Joined: 27 Aug 2008    |
Read what I wrote dude, I said he COULD. Yeah he played a colourful Riddler in Forever, I remember an interview with him saying that he would have liked to explore the darker side of the character instead of falling into his typecast faces/noises role. Sadly it was a PG/13 or something. To be honest, I'm sick of playing this game with people setting up their fantasy 7th Batman film cast. It has been SEVEN films regardless of director, let it go already. They should have stopped at Batman Forever, not the best of the bunch but the 1st three got the general story across and didn't need anything after. NOT EVEN THE DARK KNIGHT. Sorry, the milk-machine 5000 has been working overtime and you can't pretend it hasn't just because you like Batman or because they've changed to the name of the films. That's my vote, stop this madness! |
Press Junketeer Posts: 380 Joined: 18 Sep 2008 |
Then uhhh....Don't post? I don't know how old or devoted a fan you are, but I'm young and never had the opportunity to really talk about most of the movies. This is the first batman series to come out during a time when I could understand what was happening. Its important to me because of that. If your sick of it because you've seen this several times regarding the previous batman movies, then don't post. It doesn't give you the right to ruin it for everyone else because you have a different opinion. ---- In my opinion, (and yes, its only my opinion) Carey just can't bring the correct kind of dark insanity necessary for the role. I've seen him play serious characters, insane characters, and seriously insane characters and I can't say that I see him playing a dark riddler. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 672 Joined: 8 Nov 2007   |
Meet Joe Black put Pitt in an awesome light in my book. That exact mix of playfulness and deadly seriousness but this time coated in madness instead of estrangement should be a fine Riddler. But I don't know how well his face fits the riddler. He usually looks too stone-faced. |
Muckraker  Posts: 233 Joined: 11 Aug 2008    | Inspired by MSpencer I think David Tennantwould be awesome he has those crazy eyes. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2019 Joined: 25 Jun 2008  | How about David Hyde Pierce, Dwight Schultz or Rainn Wilson? They all seem to me to be able to pull off a twisted genius character, especially Murdoch! |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 575 Joined: 19 Sep 2008   | David Tennant |
On the Record  Posts: 5834 Joined: 29 Jun 2004     | Burt Reynolds |
Beat Writer  Posts: 166 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 | I gotta say Hugh Laurie, Edward Norton, Neil Patrick Harris (yeah i think he could do this role pretty well, stop typecasting) and Johnny Depp (i mean why is everyone saying he wouldnt fit, he can do crazy and back before dark knight if someone had said Ledger was gonna play the joker i would have said he couldnt do it but i was proven wrong so why not again?) |
Muckraker  Posts: 260 Joined: 19 Aug 2008     | The Tenth Doctor, whose name eludes me and I am too lazy to look it >_> |
Time Lord  Posts: 10089 Joined: 13 Feb 2008    |
David Tennant. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2076 Joined: 23 Jan 2008 | First let me start by saying, if the riddler shows up in a nolan movie, I expect (hopefully) he'll undergo a "change" to a more realistic character, much like the Joker, Harvey Dent, Raz'a Gul (sp?) and even Batman himself did (and the result of that was amazing might I add). That said, the new riddler would definitely be psychotic and obsessive compulsive, maybe even bordering the autistic (or asperger's syndome) with a very large IQ. He would lack self-confidence at heart, while, however, displaying a very confident and calm "cover". We also have to factor in the performance of Ledger and Aaron Eckhart as Joker and Two-Faced (respectively) were nothing short of epic, you'd need actors to live up to their "legacy". Such, I think the actors to best suit this character would be: - Johny Depp - Because the man's a chameleon. Like, really... Go watch Pirates of the Caribbean, then watch Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Sweetney Todd. Seriously, he can pull almost anything off. Longshot: Keanu Reaves - I know. "WHAT THE FUCK? THE ONE-ROLE-MAN?". Well, truth is, Keanu has gotten better at his "ability to excel at one role but suck at everything else". I was pleasantly surprised with his performance in both Constantine and Street Kings. With Nolan's guidance, I seriously think he could pull it off, his innate "...what?" look could actually benefit his character. |
On the Record  Posts: 6111 Joined: 25 Jan 2008   | Caliostro argues his point well, but I still say Depp is a bad choice. First, he's too OBVIOUS of a choice. Crazy lunatic with a penchant for riddles, oh yeah, is Depp available for that? The charm of the reimagined Batman series is that none of the actors were people we actually pegged for the roles. Who in the hell would have thought Brokeback Leger would be the best Joker the world will ever see? Or that 3:10 to Boredom slash Yankee Psycho Christian Bale would have been a good Batman? And Alfred? Michael Caine did a smashing job, but I'd have before seeing it, never expected a smart-mouth willful butler for Bruce, so used to the submissive Alfreds of the past. So no, if someone is too dead-ringer for the role, it shouldn't be. That being said, I trust the studio to make their own choice using the mutant superbrains they had for the first two films, and argue who would work for the sake of fun only, hoping they never make the Epic Fail of listening to the fans and accommodating net-goer wishes. /Podium So who else... What about Seth McFarlane as the Riddler? He's bulkier than we'd expect, but he does do CrAzY well enough. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 460 Joined: 4 Jun 2008  |
You're an idiot. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2768 Joined: 18 Sep 2007  | Simon Pegg (Shawn of the Dead) maybe? He can do crazy and he can do intense, and I'm pretty sure he can carry off smart... I haven't seen him do a really dramatic part, or do creepy, yet. -- Steve |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1065 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 |
So if you went and watched the first 4 Batman films (5 if you count the Adam West TV series movie), you're telling me you wouldn't understand it because of your age. Seriously? I've obviously misread the generation below me (I'm 24 btw and enjoyed Batman since I was a kid from the camp Adam West TV series, up until the Mr. Freeze film) and thought you'd be able to at least watch a film or two from a decade ago without having to have it mushed up with some 2008 cgi and spoon-fed to you because your eyes and brain couldn't possibly process that non-HD look.
Actually, as an old fan of the franchise, it does give me the right. Don't spit out your dummy because I didn't agree with you. This is a discussion, not a "friends forever follow me if you agree" thread. I hardly think I've just spoiled anyone's Batman 2008 experience whilst stating my opinion on the matter. I still vouch that Carey could pull it off but, shave the tasche off of Jason Lee's face and he'd play the shit out of The Riddler. Happy now young 'un? |
Paperboy Posts: 40 Joined: 7 Feb 2008  | Marilyn Manson, I don't listen to his music not my thing, but he seems like the kinda person who would pull off that roll well. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2076 Joined: 23 Jan 2008 |
Indeed. After the first 2 movies I trust "the team" won't fail us. And yes, never do anything for the fans specifically... Fans are crazy deranged dipshits who think they know better than the people who made the series they love, which is usually only true for Star Wars fans since George Lucas is a gigantic moneygrubbing dickhole. But this isn't Lucasarts, it's the team that brought us Batman Beguins and The Dark Knight. Go Nolan! Seriously, the more I think about it, the more I feel Keanu Reaves might be awesome for it. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 122 Joined: 9 Oct 2008  | Ladies and Gentlemen! Boys and Girls! This year we start Hollywood's first and last annual sweepstakes competition of WHO WANTS TO BE THE RIDDLER! Text the letter of who you vote for to 55655, and we'll put that actor into the movie by popular vote. (50 cents a text) The choices are: A) Christian Bale The choice is yours folks, and the decision is your on who will be the next RIDDLER! |
On the Record Posts: 6111 Joined: 25 Jan 2008 | Donnie Darko? I'd have picked him more for the Scarecrow. Fuck, was anyone else as impressed with the Scarecrow as I was? They took one of the lamest, most ignored villains, and made him cool. And they did it with a pansy emo-looking twirp to boot. IMHO they need the next films to stop exploring the more known villains and go with the lesser guys, save the biggies for later and boost the minor villain status. I'd personally love to see the Mad Hatter, Harley Quinn, and if they could do it right, Croc. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3106 Joined: 28 May 2008 |
Nope too late mind exploded. If he was a bit younger that would be bloody brilliant. Even though I'm not a particularly big fan of his David Tennant would fit the bill. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 380 Joined: 18 Sep 2008 |
First off, I can see your opinion, and while I don't necessarily agree, I still see where you come from. Secondly, I think your argument against me (or mine against you)is misinformed. I'm not really sure what got lost in translation via internet, perhaps my response was too wordy or I misread something, but that was not what I meant at all. Third and finally (and before I say this I want to say that I have no intention of causing another argument) your opinion is your own. As is mine. If you don't like hearing about the new batman movie then don't get involved. I myself love it and am eagerly looking forward to it. What I said in my last post wasnt right, you are entitled to your opinion but this thread wasn't intended to be about whether the series should have been produced or not. And to clarify, No, I can now understand the older batman movies, but at the time I was too young and wasnt able to partake in watching the comic books come to life. Its nice to be able to enjoy it now. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1065 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 |
Have you seen him in Black Books? He's Manny's boss in the 1st ep of the 3rd season. A bit creepy and manic in parts. He can be dramatic in Spaced, just not all the time.
I'm not having a go at you dude, don't worry. It's no secret I dislike the trendy sequel fad but I've obviously been a fan at least once upon a time and this gives me just as much right to voice my option (positive or negative) on the matter. I didn't just turn up and offer an ignorant "This is shit!". I feel the first 3 already 'come to life' as you put it, there's no need to re-tread old ground (IMO). I even made a second suggestion after being drawn back in by you, Jason Lee. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 110 Joined: 23 Jan 2008 |
I don't know-- I really can't, in good conscience, commend Gregory House for the Riddler. No doubt, it'd be the most hard ex core, bad ass casting ever to grace the soggy marsh of The Dark Knight but Hugh Laruie's already been iron cast into the image of a sarcastic and internally suffering genius doctor... as a riddler in a Nolan-esque batman world, I'm afraid that won't fly. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 380 Joined: 18 Sep 2008 |
House wasn't Hugh Laurie's first role though. (I don't know what you know about Hugh Laurie so what I'm about to say may be old news to you) Hugh Laurie is originally from england and was a huge sensation producing a show called "A bit of Fry and Laurie" on English television. Its only now that he has become so popular for house, he was once a very different persona and anyone who has seen the show he used to work with can say that the man is capable of playing any role exquisitely. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2076 Joined: 23 Jan 2008 |
And please let's not overlook his awesome role in Blackadder. |
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David Tennant (of doctor who fame)! I think he is quirky enough to pull it off very very well.