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Paperboy
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People mentioned David Tennant, that'd be interesting but I'd rather John Simm (The Master in Doctor Who/Sam Tyler in Life On Mars)

He can play mentally unstable in a way that I think is fitting for the new Batman films =)

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HomeAliveIn45:

Droshi:
You will all call me an idiot probably, but I honestly feel like Jack Black could drop the weight like he did in Envy (he can get skinny) and take the role seriously enough to make a great Riddler.

Before you bash me, imagine JB in a role where he ISN'T playing his typecast character, but instead is just an outer shell for an insane personality like the Riddler. He's got the face for sure.

You're an idiot.

Awesome, thanks.

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I just had an insight...

Joe Pileggi, better known as Assistant Director Walter Skinner of the X-Files. He has the height, the look, the serious demeanor... He can act very well, and he's not someone would picture when they think of the Riddler, yet once you connect the dots he's almost perfect.

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Khell_Sennet:
I just had an insight...

Joe Pileggi, better known as Assistant Director Walter Skinner of the X-Files. He has the height, the look, the serious demeanor... He can act very well, and he's not someone would picture when they think of the Riddler, yet once you connect the dots he's almost perfect.

Mitch Pileggi you mean. (X-Files geek ahoy) That's quite a good call. He was great in the X-Files and would pull this off well.

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Anthony Hopkins.

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My top choices would be:

- John Glover (although he may be a little old for the part, but I still think he could pull it off)
- Crispin Glover

Johnny Depp would do the job well enough I think, but the two above would be perfect.

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Ultrajoe:
Anthony Hopkins.

Anthony Hopkins would be perfect at everything.... The Riddler especially, since he already did such a great job portraying Hannibal Lecter.

The funny thing is that I've only ever seen 3 movies that had Hopkins in them.....

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jamanticus:

Ultrajoe:
Anthony Hopkins.

Anthony Hopkins would be perfect at everything.... The Riddler especially, since he already did such a great job portraying Hannibal Lecter.

The funny thing is that I've only ever seen 3 movies that had Hopkins in them.....

I would love to see what Hopkins did with the Riddler. Ledger took the Joker in a unique direction that made it so special, Hopkins i think could put a very cool twist on the Riddler that would make him so much more dark, and so much more psychological than the Joker.

Sure, you could have a non-ham version of Carey... but why not try something new? Toss an experienced head-twister into the ring and give him some brains to play with. I think Hopkins both looks and plays the perfect part.

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Hugh Laurie would do well, but i feel like he'd just be house with a costume...I mean, half of house is Laurie messing with the heads of his colleagues for his own pleasure, so i feel like that's all i'd see his riddler as. The only difference would be that he wouldn't limp

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Droshi:
Crispin Glover would be great, too.

Great call.

Willem Defoe would also make a great Riddler.

If Gary Oldman wasn't already playing Gordon I would say that he could pull it off as well.

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Ultrajoe:
Anthony Hopkins.

Bit over the hill for that isn't he?

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We really can't make any major headway with The Riddler without actually thinking about how hes going to fit into the new movies emphasis on a basis in reality (or as close as they can get in a series about a man dressed like a bit beating up criminals.

The problem is that the Riddler's main differentiator is not a strength, its a weakness - at its heart its leaving behind clues to help Batman catch him. So how does that translate into terrifying?

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i think the best way to translate it is to draw on the similarity on the compusions of the two entities

Dark Knight worked on this by making batman see the future of himself (in a way) in the joker

what if we actually saw batman decend into this madness where he;s not fighting crime because he wants to out of responsibility, but he HAS to, its become an obsession.

that coulde work

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I don't know if I'm stepping on anyone's toes here, but I'd have to say me.

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jim_doki:
i think the best way to translate it is to draw on the similarity on the compusions of the two entities

Dark Knight worked on this by making batman see the future of himself (in a way) in the joker

what if we actually saw batman decend into this madness where he;s not fighting crime because he wants to out of responsibility, but he HAS to, its become an obsession.

that coulde work

And that doesn't make any sense in making a man who tells you he's going to rob a Riverbank - that is, a bank by the river - more threatening.

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If the Riddler is gonna be in the third film, it has to have Robin in it.
You know.
For the 'Holy _____, Batman! A Riddle!'

Either that or a rocket.
A rocket that spells the riddle in the sky.

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Indigo_Dingo:
And that doesn't make any sense in making a man who tells you he's going to rob a Riverbank - that is, a bank by the river - more threatening.

So borrow from history a bit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac_killer

There's a real-life riddle-issuing criminal who was creepy as hell. Change his focus slightly, so that instead of apparently random killings it's instead a criminal stalk of the identity of the Batman, and that model would easily fit into a Nolan-ised Batman film.

-- Steve

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DannyDamage:

Khell_Sennet:
I just had an insight...

Joe Pileggi, better known as Assistant Director Walter Skinner of the X-Files. He has the height, the look, the serious demeanor... He can act very well, and he's not someone would picture when they think of the Riddler, yet once you connect the dots he's almost perfect.

Mitch Pileggi you mean. (X-Files geek ahoy) That's quite a good call. He was great in the X-Files and would pull this off well.

Where in the nine hells did I get Joe from? You are right fellow X-File'aholic.

So we have a nomination and a second on Mitch Pileggi. I call the vote, Mr. Chairman if you would...

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Zing! Noel Fielding.

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Adrian Brody.

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axia777:
I like the idea of Crispin Glover.

I could actually see this guy in the role... :-)

Although Hugh Laurie might just about do it, I think he has a too friendly looking face. Depp is a damn good crazy-person actor, but he has been in too many films recently and I think he should take a rest before he becomes even more type-cast. Oliphant I couldn't see in the role, though he seems to be skilled I'm not sure it'd suit him and as for Brad Pitt...WTF? Okay he can do crazy and did so quite well in 12 Monkeys, but the guy just isn't Riddler material.

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Johnny Depp. End of thread. xD

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Khell_Sennet:

DannyDamage:

Khell_Sennet:
I just had an insight...

Joe Pileggi, better known as Assistant Director Walter Skinner of the X-Files. He has the height, the look, the serious demeanor... He can act very well, and he's not someone would picture when they think of the Riddler, yet once you connect the dots he's almost perfect.

Mitch Pileggi you mean. (X-Files geek ahoy) That's quite a good call. He was great in the X-Files and would pull this off well.

Where in the nine hells did I get Joe from? You are right fellow X-File'aholic.

So we have a nomination and a second on Mitch Pileggi. I call the vote, Mr. Chairman if you would...

I believe the correct term is X-Phile :P

The Mrs. treated me last x-mas and bought me the seasons 1-9 dvd box set (now sitting beside my videos :D). I introduced her to it shortly after and she loves it, we're at the end of season 8 at the moment! hehe

I'm picturing Pileggi in The Riddler's outfit, lol.

Riddle me this and riddle me that, some bald meat-head's about to catch himself a bat!

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robert downey

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DannyDamage:

Riddle me this and riddle me that, some bald meat-head's about to catch himself a bat!

ROTFLMAO.

Got all 9 seasons m'self, plus the first movie. Already watched them through twice, and currently on a third run-through with my roommate, who has only before seen bits and pieces. Also, while at work (and hardly working), I'm watching Chris Carter's series "Millennium", which so far at least, is even better than Das Files.

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Val Kilmer.. ha ha, just kidding

Johnny Depp would be a good choice, and I also like the Neil Patrick Harris idea. They both can do the wacky yet seriousness of the Riddler.

I'm going to throw 2 more names. Ryan Renyolds or Dane Cook. Just to watch the flames...

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i will loooooove to see jack fucking black in a batman movie... but im not shure in what part... and what about ewan mcgregor or jude law?

Paperboy
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I'm still not entirely convinced that The Riddler is where they should be going with the next batman film. I'm still kind of annoyed that my favorite batman villain, The Scarecrow, has been turned into a second rate thug, particularly in the brief "cameo" in the Dark Knight.

I'm intrigued by whoever said Barry Pepper, a guy I genuinely like as an actor but couldn't really imagine doing Riddler. I agree with him that Nolan's been kind of doing that alot with these movies. Taking the director into account I'll throw out a few weird odd pitches myself.

-James Brolin- Nolan seems to pick a few guys who've been around the block who've recently come into the spotlight and/or critical acclaim. Coming off of W, this is probably the strangest pick I've come up with, but who knows. I never thought James Brolin would amount to a whole lot better than being a Goonie.

-Guy Pearce- This guy was in Nolan's Memento, and the only other memorable thing he's done is Priscilla. I think it's time this guy proves his stuff again.

-Rufus Sewell- **shrugs**, I liked Dark City.

-Ioan Gruffudd- I don't know if he's in a contract with Marvel or whatever, but I'd like to see him try his hand at villainry, or something not so straight-faced heroic as Hornblower or Richards.

But, in keeping with the dark theme of the recent Batman movies (and the comics in general), I'd like to see a revamp of Firefly with Giovanni Ribisi taking a stap at it.

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Dark Riddler -> Giovani Ribisi ( This guy is a talented actor ) OR The actor who played that weird roommate character in Friends sitcom which Chandler has a hard time getting out ( he was also in Saving Private Ryan, dying in a fight getting stabbed in the heart in the end ).

Funny Riddler -> Jim Carrey/Robin Williams/Jake Gylynhall (?)

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Adrian Brody.

No!

MATTHEW LESKO!

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See I thought I was the only one who thought about Hugh Laurie after watching a couple episodes of house, I even got really bored and made this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iksyTdtAVwY

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Sylocat:
Johnny Depp is always a good choice (the man's a genius), but I latched onto that rumor a while back that they were trying to get David Tennant to do it.

Now THAT would have been awesome.

Agreed. Sorry for these one word posts, but you really just summarized the two points I wanted to express. ^^;

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Chris Hansen.

Obviously.

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ZeroMachine:
They're already trying to bring Johnny Depp in to play him. I think that's a perfect idea.
And apparently Phillip Seymour Hoffman might play the penguin XD

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Goddamnit Hollywood. What is up with you and Johnny Depp? I actually like a couple Johnny Depp Movies, there's nothing wrong with the guy as an actor but stop trying to Shoe-horn himin every time you have a character who isn't completely sane! Other actors are capable of showing emotional imbalance you idiots!

So he looks good in eye shadow! Fine! So his eyes bulge from his head a bit, fine! Maybe he's equipped to play 80% of over the top crazy people movies.

Mark my words though, he is wrong for the Riddler. He'll screw it up. Riddler is a character that genuinely delights in playing games with the people catching him, he's a character grounded in arrogance. Believe me, that's different than playing homicidal maniac. It's also different from playing a pirate full of bravado. I realize Depp as other roles and taken to them well but I just can't see him here.

I sense you don't want Johnny Depp to play the Riddler.
I think he could do fine. I'm sure there were people pessimistic about Ledger when he was going into the role of the Joker.

I think Edward Norton would be able to do it (I just saw Primal Fear, for some reason that was the first thing that sprung to mind).

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