We (Sydney-sider) actually start quite early... I remember having talks about 'private-places', incorrect touching and getting help in about Year 4. Proper sex ed (you know, sex, masturbation) came at Year 7, and prevention and the like came at about Year 10. However, us guys already knew everything by about Year 8, so there really wasn't a point to it.

Unfortunately, no applications of condoms were allowed... it was all theory.

Decoy Doctorpus:
Abstinence is the best way to avoid STD's in the same way that not eating is the best way to avoid food poisoning.

Also; Sex ed in the uk was detailed but about 3 years too late.

ah so you got chlamydia then?

Rankao:

Decoy Doctorpus:
Abstinence is the best way to avoid STD's in the same way that not eating is the best way to avoid food poisoning.

Also; Sex ed in the uk was detailed but about 3 years too late.

ah so you got chlamydia then?

I think I deserve half the funny credit for that one.

Decoy Doctorpus:
Abstinence is the best way to avoid STD's in the same way that not eating is the best way to avoid food poisoning.

Also; Sex ed in the uk was detailed but about 3 years too late.

Not really the same thing. Sex is fun and all, but it's possible to live without. Stop eating food, and you die. Eventually.

Elurindel:

Decoy Doctorpus:
Abstinence is the best way to avoid STD's in the same way that not eating is the best way to avoid food poisoning.

Also; Sex ed in the uk was detailed but about 3 years too late.

Not really the same thing. Sex is fun and all, but it's possible to live without. Stop eating food, and you die. Eventually.

Not for the British, they die within a few months on lack of sex.

Rankao:

Elurindel:

Decoy Doctorpus:
Abstinence is the best way to avoid STD's in the same way that not eating is the best way to avoid food poisoning.

Also; Sex ed in the uk was detailed but about 3 years too late.

Not really the same thing. Sex is fun and all, but it's possible to live without. Stop eating food, and you die. Eventually.

Not for the British, they die within a few months on lack of sex.

Well, the last time was february, and I am pretty close to dying...

Elurindel:

Decoy Doctorpus:
Abstinence is the best way to avoid STD's in the same way that not eating is the best way to avoid food poisoning.

Also; Sex ed in the uk was detailed but about 3 years too late.

Not really the same thing. Sex is fun and all, but it's possible to live without. Stop eating food, and you die. Eventually.

It's also possible to live without eating chicken but many people want to eat chicken. If I started going to resteraunts and replacing health and safety guidelines with 'DON'T EAT CHICKEN' there'd be hell on.

Decoy Doctorpus:

Elurindel:

Decoy Doctorpus:
Abstinence is the best way to avoid STD's in the same way that not eating is the best way to avoid food poisoning.

Also; Sex ed in the uk was detailed but about 3 years too late.

Not really the same thing. Sex is fun and all, but it's possible to live without. Stop eating food, and you die. Eventually.

It's also possible to live without eating chicken but many people want to eat chicken. If I started going to resteraunts and replacing health and safety guidelines with 'DON'T EAT CHICKEN' there'd be hell on.

I still don't think it's a reasonable comparison. Everybody has to eat, and there are always alternative foods if some foods are bad for you. Most alternatives to sex tend to be less and less hygienic...

There's always masturbation. Sure it's less fun but it's less likely to damage your health. A lot like vegetables when you think about it.

Pushing abstenance is a retarded way to answer the STD question and it certainly shouldn't be put forward as a form of contraception. Imagine if we allowed such wankerish ideas in other schools of thought!

Meanwhile at Nasa.

"We've got a problem Tim. The third oxygen regulator always ends up being sheared off by friction during take off causing catastrophic decompression. How should we fix this?"

"MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T GO INTO SPACE! Did you ever think of that!"

Tim would be out on his arse and so should anyone else who posits that particular line of reasoning.

The thing i remember from my sex-ed was that the teacher couldn't stop laughing.
Especially when he had to do a condom over a banana.

As you probaly would have guesed i didn't learn a thing.

Decoy Doctorpus:
There's always masturbation. Sure it's less fun but it's less likely to damage your health. A lot like vegetables when you think about it.

Fapping + veggies = less fun ? O RLY?
(did I just pollute someone's mind with mental images ?)

Otherwise you can harm yourself with masturbation, but I won't go into details...

needausername:
"ickie" and has "cooties".

Most. Inaccurate. Stereotype. Ever.

Cheesus333:

needausername:
"ickie" and has "cooties".

Most. Inaccurate. Stereotype. Ever.

Not really, although I could have used better words...

In our school in Sydney, our teachers said that if we did it, we should do it protected.
Our P.E. teacher also said we shouldn't do it with random strangers, for these strange chicks might have "vagina dentata".
We asked, curious, "What's that?"
What came after that was probably the worst mental imagery I have ever experienced.
He was joking, of course, but I don't think the scars will ever heal.

I had an "interesting" sex ed. In year 10 (english schools) we played a "Game" where you were everyone (about 120 people) were given a card with a number of "dances" on (times having sex) you had a number between 1-10. There were 10 separate occasions to dance. You then went up and matched with someone that many times. Some people however were "std transmitters" who if you danced with them you had the std. Interestingly by the end of it there were about 11 out of 120 who wern't infected (I think 5 people started with the infection). After wards we were shown pictures of STD's that were pretty horrific to say the least.

In Alberta we start "Sex Ed" in Grade 4 (Age 9-10) and it persists until Grade 11 (Age 16) where they actually make you practice applying various birth control methods (diaphragms, Condoms) on plastic models of Penises and Vaginas. It was thorough, though a little "fear mongering" with the whole "Abstinence is the only garaunteed way to prevent STD's and pregnancy" being stressed. Interestingly I was friends with a girl who was the 1% failiure rate of the Condom + Pill combo.

BallPtPenTheif:
What they should do is break down the statistics of all contraceptive methods and have all the students Dungeons and Dragons that shit with some dice. No graphic narrative description of sex acts or anything perverse like that...

Just, Tommy chooses unprotected sex with pull out method... 60% chance and rolls the 100 sided dice... oh... 62, Susie is pregnant. Now lets roll for deformities.

For this reason I was an advocate of the Condom + Pull Out method... it's 85% roll with a 60% backup safety roll.. gotta hedge that shit.

I second this plan. Nothing like a little dorkiness to save lives and prevent unplanned pregnancies.

Personaly I find Sex-ed obsolete in society. Here, in Ireland, all our sex-ed consisted of is four days of "your bodys' are going through many changes" and here's me thinking "yes I know I see it every time I take a whizz" and the rest got about 1 minute of face-time. I dunno about you Americans but it's pretty much useless. The usual rigmarole in Irish society is such: teens load at steaming piles of porn, music these days overuse hollow definitions of love, teens hear them, teens falls in "love" for about a month or two, teens screw each other senseless during. Now I'm a social character and so talk to friends of other friends when out in common hang-outs and this 13 yo sister of a friend's friend asks me, because I always act approachable, where was the best place to get condoms, no questions asked. I replay about her being to young and then she claims to "love" him and promptly oestrecises me as "one of them" and "I don't get teens today" (I was 17 at the time). I just think because all teens are out to prove their maturity they will do anything to "rebel" such as take on mature concepts such as the difference of love and lust. This mixed with brow-beatting of "SEX IS WRONG" pushes them further into it.

As for Holland, the land of prostitutes and stoners, we ussually learn trough friends round the age of 10 that there isnt some sorta stork carrying babies. Round the age of 12 to adults decide to teach us ^_^. I am okay with this system. it says right off the bat that unprotected sex gives a high chance of sexual deceases, and girls are stimulated to take the pill as well.

Here in Virginia, it's very similar to yours (OP), but we see the birth video in 9th grade (14-15) Biology.

I dont remember much of my sex ed...(UK here)...but i do remember a very very cheesy video which could have been easily mistaken for a 1970s porno...fur burgers = uber deterrant.

As for abstinence...theres actually evidence now that they are the most likely to have underage sex/teenage pregnancies.

It's like saying you can have the sweets in the jar that everyone likes (including you)...just makes you want them more.

MMOs are actually a far better derrant. WoW especially. No social life = massive reduction in female exposure = massive reduction in potential for drunken naughtyness = virgin for far longer.

In Kansas, we have sex ed in eighth grade. Keep in mind, I live on a blue county island in a red sea of state. It's not simplified much, and it's not abstinence only. It's more of a "here's the information (make the right choice)" system, if you understand my language. They do teach contraceptives, STDs, organs, pregnancy, the works, but they don't stress abstinence. In the entire time I was in that class, the term "abstinence" or anything relating to it was never said by anybody.

gamebrain89:

Gxas:

gamebrain89:
What you discribed is pretty much exactly how it is here in wyoming. Also, your title made me laugh. Awesome

I don't believe you, Wyoming doesn't exist.

Thats because you don't know the secret word to make it appear for you to get in BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

Its really not that hard... I mean the secret word is Wyoming..
not really that secret either...

Sirisaxman:

ace_of_something:
In this thread here
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.75485?page=1

I felt many foreigners (that's pronounced fuhrn-nerz) were unfairly portraying our educational system. Specifically sexual health.

The thing with the USA is not everything is uniform because it's the third most populous nation in the world (I think it's like 4.5% of the world population more than 300 million don't quote me on that though) the largest that allows individual areas to govern themselves to a degree. So you CANNOT make broad generalizing strokes about Americans in almost any sort of way.

That being said; let us satiate curiosities about the Sex Ed in your individual areas.

Example: Here's how we do it in ignorant, podunk, backwoods, evil red state
- Nebraska -

In my public school we had sex ed that was basically the mechanics and simplified biological explanation at 5th grade (ages 10-11) this was basically a 'here's where babies come from' thing.
Then in 7th grade (that's 12-13) they went over more specifics and began explaining the hygiene, STD's, habits, as well as some cultural and societal values and norms. We also watched a video of a child being born.
In 10th grade(about 15-16) They repeat everything above, add slide shows of STDs explain emotional and psychological readiness. The consequences of childbearing. A lot about contraceptives. On a kind of different note this class also talks about drug use pretty extensively and suicide things like that.

The tone of all our classes did stress abstinence as the best method to avoid pregnancy and STD's but did allow us to learn about other methods quite a lot.

Despite all this the urban areas of our state has some of the highest percentage of STDs in the country in young people.

This is in no way me defending the Botarded law we passed.
Here's about 50 articles on the Botarded law
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10458731

I'm in California, and my schools did it fairly similarly, except for the last part about abstinence. They still recommended it but they admitted to not being naive enough to think that everyone will be.

Same here in New Jersey.

stevetastic:

also did anyone else do the putting condoms on a blue dildo thing?

Yeah, its become legendary in my school, its called "The Purple Monster." Also legendary is the unintentionally-funny movie "She's too young"

axia777:

quickpaw:
Until you have a teen pregnancy rate that is not one of the worst in the world then you have to right to complain about other people's portrayal of your sex education system.

Oh and did you realize how bigoted it made you sound when you blamed Foreigners in your 2nd line.

Seriously, he is soooooo right. Screw the sex education system in America, it is a complete joke. Abstinence only, as if that ever works. Give me a fucking break.

I've yet to meet a single fellow American, irl or in the internet, who was actually taught abstinence-only. Most of the controversy comes from people trying to teach that.

Onyx Oblivion:

Gxas:

gamebrain89:
What you discribed is pretty much exactly how it is here in wyoming. Also, your title made me laugh. Awesome

I don't believe you, Wyoming doesn't exist.

No. It does...the legends are true.

EDIT: Sex ed in Philadelphia is basically, don't do it if you don't want to risk kids.

In Alabama is don't do it or you risk pregnancy/STI's and that condoms fail almost a quarter of a time. Pretty much they are just short of telling us it will rot off if we fuck. Seeing the number of teen pregnancy's in my area (Montgomery) you see how effective that is.

Edit: It is almost abstinence only but they do at least mention contraceptives, eeven if they do lie a bit about em >_>

The best sex education comes from parents that build close knit relationships with their children. Showing them real world examples are also good, take your kids to a homeless shelter for teen mothers. Teach them that irresponsible actions=negative consequences. Schools can only do so much, and as underfunded as they are these days I dont see them teaching kids that much.

Helnurath,
Your Friendly Neighborhood Satanic Child Psychologist

I am from Nebraska, like the OP, and I got even less (Papillion Lavista School district, if you care to know, which is in Sarpy, that STD/Pregnancy ridden quasi-Hellhole) sex ed than he did.

Mine consisted of a 12 minute video in 5th grade in which sex was mentioned to exist in the same way nuclear missiles were (dangerous and not to be screwed around with). In 8th grade, I got a Half Semester (the other half was G.R.E.A.T., gang resistance education and training, the biggest waste of time ever in Papillion, Nebraska, which has one three-man gang the last I bothered to check). The half semester course consisted of one day of mechanics, one day of birth control, and the rest on abstinence, STD's, and how horrible Teen Pregnancy is (did you know that if you get your GF pregnant, she will have the child, abandon you with it, and then mail you letter bombs?). In the end, I learned the way most people do- Porn, and awkward conversations with parents when they discover said porn.

To defend Nebraska's pregnancy and STD rate for a moment, you must understand that there isn't much else to do out here. Not kidding. Boredom driven sex has to be the leading cause of all the negative stuff. My solution involves the proposal to introduce all teens to WoW upon hitting puberty, ensuring that they will get jobs to pay for it, and not have exposure to sunlight or the opposite gender.

In the UK, people aren't always keen to talk about sex.

I think if the government treated sex as less of a taboo and taught it to younger pupils, it would vastly improve societies' attitudes towards sex.

Uk is basically just biological facts rather than any abstinence type system as just telling people not to have sex isn't going to work when they actually do and thus haven't learnt a thing about safe sex.

The traditional English method...a 2L bottle of industrial grade white cider, a bag of speed and pointed at the nearest council estate.

You know I got a lot of sex ed talks and I really don't think teens really care, until someone gets pregnant or gets someone else pregnant. Hell, I think I only know maybe two people that are still virgins in my entire school and that's sad.I think that sex ed is kinda useless because well when you tell a teen not to do something nine time out of ten they do and there is nothing to do to stop them, unless you walk in on them.