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Gone Gonzo Posts: 2599 Joined: 6 Jun 2008 | |
Press Junketeer Posts: 400 Joined: 1 Nov 2008 | Anywhere you look there's a trend of decreasing intelligence. Literature, film/television, music. You forgot to add a question mark at the end of the thread's title - unless it was a statement, in which case the title is misleading; it'd imply you had an answer for us. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1579 Joined: 6 Jun 2008 | Perfectly acceptable shorthand. Although I have to admit I still don't know what 'WOOT' means. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 429 Joined: 26 Sep 2008 | You could say there is currently Zero punctuation on the escapist at the moment.... okay that was a bad joke I'll admit. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3900 Joined: 4 May 2008 |
QFT. Jokes aside, I still like to think that the general standard of English on The Escapist is still quite high. However, I'm still a little taken aback when I see a disjointed and near-unintelligible post, which is happening more and more. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 400 Joined: 1 Nov 2008 |
General exclamation of joy. Not entirely sure who came up with it, or how. Certainly not how it became so commonly used. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2074 Joined: 23 Jan 2008 | They're just internet acronyms, nothing serious. What worries me is the exponential increase in "low quality" threads, most of which clearly ridden with controversy fueled by badge-whoring. Fortunately wilson and nilcypher do a good job "cleaning up". But they're only human. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1044 Joined: 2 Jul 2008 | Its become more popular to use these shortened words with the mainstream popularity of text messaging. Also with words like LOL or ROFL which are widely used on the internet. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 469 Joined: 18 Oct 2008 | FTW? FTL? QFT? These still elude me completely to be honest. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 623 Joined: 31 Jul 2008 |
As far as I'm aware, it was originally used on quake as an acronym for "We Owned (the) Other Team.", and has since evolved into a generic expression of joy or celebration along the lines of "yay" or "woohoo". As for the whole text/internet speak thing goes, I personally try to keep my sentences in proper English as much as possible, mabye only using things like "lol" or "woot" in fast moving FPS games, where there really is little time to type anything further. |
BANNED Posts: 2505 Joined: 19 Aug 2008 | I believe that the Escapist has much better literary skills than most of the other forums I have been on. On some forums I can't even read the posts there so short formed. User was banned for: Poll: Round 5 - Field of Four - (1) Turbine vs (1) Nintendo. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4269 Joined: 13 Aug 2008 | It's nothing but a minor annoyance. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 400 Joined: 1 Nov 2008 |
Stupid, lazy people. |
Brand Manager Posts: 2438 Joined: 8 Oct 2007 | It's actually amazing how much the shorthand texting culture reflects to the shorthand writing culture back in the day (or for editors that still use pen and paper). Except for FTW and other gaming type shorthand, most shorthand hasn't changed at all. BUT, unless you are editor, taking notes or texting, I don't think people should be using shorthand in forums. It's just plain lazy. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 429 Joined: 26 Sep 2008 |
For The Win (I think the preceeding word/statement is awesome), For The Loss (opposite of FTW), Quoted For Truth (I think the quoted text is concordant with my opinion/funny) no idea how they became so widely used but I'm guessing 4chan had a hand in it somewhere. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2599 Joined: 6 Jun 2008 |
Don't point out my flaws as I have none. Joking aside, I'm still unclear as to what several of these short hand words mean, which may be part of why I notice them. QFT seems like utter nonsense to me. |
BANNED Posts: 3486 Joined: 25 Aug 2008 | I can live with some expressions like BTW, or FYI, but some are just piss irritating. Type the 'yo' part of 'you' please. It's not difficult. Lol is annoying also, but the extent to which bad grammar has seeped into our community goes much deeper than abbreviations. User was banned for: The Second Annual Escapist Election: Part 1: Presidential Primaries. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1850 Joined: 31 Oct 2007 |
Why is that a decrease in intelligence if someone uses an acronym? Are people at NASA morons for not saying National Aeronautics and Space Administration every single time? Shorthand is used by doctors and nurses every single day. ACL (anterior cruciate ligament) or RBC's (Red blood cells) for examples. Sometimes you just get used to communicating in this fashion and I don't agree at all that it's a sign of intelligence diminishing. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2074 Joined: 23 Jan 2008 |
For The Win (FTW) These are basically all you need to know, for everything else, there's Dramatica. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2350 Joined: 21 Aug 2008 | There's just something i don't get, there's always a thread that pops up now and then bemoaning the downfall of the written English language on the Escapist. But, I have never seen it once, not on this site at least. Can anyone here actually show me a thread where there were more that 1 person using bad grammar in a non-ironic way? |
Press Junketeer Posts: 400 Joined: 1 Nov 2008 |
LOL ROFLMAO UR SO FUNNY LOL QFT!!!1 It's annoying, no? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2019 Joined: 25 Jun 2008 | I'll use IMO. as it seems less pretentious than In My Opinion, but FTW seems a bit stupid for me, I mean it's not like everything is a competition & I've never had reason to use FTL, I rarely get into deep conversations about space travel, physics etc. I understand WOOT but I'd never use it. WOOTing seems like the kind of thing Chimpanzees do when they capture a monkey & start tearing it up. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 123 Joined: 23 Jun 2008 | While i will concede 4chan may have aided in some of them becoming far more mainstream than they originally were I would not agree it spawned anything of the sort: the text message//aol generation gave us LOL, and others in use during instant messaging; QFT spawned as a forum based method for agreeing with someone much like the now rampant use of the following:
"^this" It along with IIRC (If I recall Correctly) were methods by which to shorten larger phrases into much more time-friendly typing acronyms in an effort to keep your post from ending up TL;DR. (Too long, didnt read). |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3986 Joined: 16 May 2008 | dey took are jawrbs? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1850 Joined: 31 Oct 2007 |
So you took it to the extreme and asked me if it's annoying. It's annoying that you missed the point. But I could careless that you typed that out. Not to mention, the acronym's you used didn't really make any sense in context. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2074 Joined: 23 Jan 2008 | I'll give you something to reflect about: Do you prefer a forum that has the eventual "QFT", "FTW", "Inb4", or one that's stuffed with "LOL U GUYZ R SO FUNNI!!!!!!11[two billion smileys here*]". I think we'll be fine. *I don't think I can ever thank enough to whomever had the idea of NOT including smileys/emoticons in these boards. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 400 Joined: 1 Nov 2008 | That's not to an extreme. The Escapist is thankfully rather isolated from that type of behaviour, but it's extremely common elsewhere. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 123 Joined: 23 Jun 2008 |
There is a fairly large difference (even if it is situational) between shortening words or phrases to fit on a medical chart or prescription-slip, and being too lazy to type out words over the internet. While i will agree simply using acronyms is not a sign of idiocy, the rampant use of "LOL" and "OMG" in everyday conversations I overhear on even a college campus makes me worry about the future. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1850 Joined: 31 Oct 2007 |
Yes it was. People who post what you posted, are just trying to be extreme or satirical. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 623 Joined: 31 Jul 2008 |
This brings me to another point actually, as I've seen lots of people doing this lately (not just on The Escapist, mind). I think what you mean is 'I couldn't care less.', Sorry to nitpick, but it gets a bit irritating. |
BANNED Posts: 3486 Joined: 25 Aug 2008 |
dek er ders! User was banned for: The Second Annual Escapist Election: Part 1: Presidential Primaries. (Permanent) |
Press Junketeer Posts: 400 Joined: 1 Nov 2008 | Google it. Edit: better idea, look at the comments section for any Youtube video. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3958 Joined: 7 Nov 2007 |
It sure was, but thank goodness you didn't use "1337" speak. Whatever happened to the mockery we made of people who spelt wrong on purpose? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4269 Joined: 13 Aug 2008 |
No.
Yeah... But doctors and nurses actually have a valid reason to get things done quicker. By the way, I should probably point out that this wasn't meant as a backlash to you in particular. I just used your examples and then got carried away off on my own, separate qualms about the way things work here and how they annoy me. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1850 Joined: 31 Oct 2007 |
How is this any different then the rampant use of "dude" or "far out, man" or some other iconic term from some random decade? Humans know more things now then ever before in the history of humans. I'm not too worried if some weirdo with an ipod strapped to his heart and a cappuccino clenched in his fist goes around spouting off nonsensical acronym's. He'd hardly be a fine representation of what humanity has to offer. |
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Recently it has come to my attention that texting words have become more popular here. IMO, FTW, FTL. These were used before, but it seems like they're more popular now. I might just be noticing them more now than before as I get more active in the forums.
What do you think?