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Poll: Am I wrong to hate Macs?


Am I wrong to hate Macs?
Yes; quite wrong
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No! they suck
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Gone Gonzo
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with the exception of ipods i absolutely hate macs.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 18 Sep 2008

I vote no, its your right to hate whatever you damn well please regardless of who it offends!

One thing I hate about mac USERS is their blind devotion to their products.

"Macs don't get viruses."

Well, no, not as often as PC, but you'd expect virus-writers to write a virus that will infect more than 5% of the population of computers in the world.

"I love my I-phone. I'm now on my fifth one since buying the first one at launch."

Rugged products FTW

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 3647
Joined: 7 Aug 2008

Lol 99 people vote, 33 no, 66 yes.

But seriously though. Don't hate Mac's I mean sure there computer's are constantly being degraded by PC user's, but something like their iPod, which I feel is the best mp3/mp4 on the market.

Also, they do play games. I'm playing WoW right now...

Ad Production Manager
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misterprickly:
...when you combine the Crappy products, their lack of loyalty for their customers...

True story; this past GDC my iPhone decided that the screen wasn't going to register my touch anymore. A real problem for a touch-screen device. So I'm stuck in San Francisco at a conference without a phone. Not really an ideal situation. So, I popped over to the Apple store near Union Square and told them the screen doesn't seem to be working and totally expecting them to tell me that they'll have to send it in to be repaired. The guy behind the counter tried to get it to register his touch only twice. He said "Yup, it's broken!" Then he went into the back to grab a brand new phone for me, asked me if I needed everything transferred over or not, punched some numbers into his computer and I was free to go with a brand new iPhone in my hand. This is still the best customer service I've ever received. Anywhere. Later several of my co-workers bought iPhones, and even Macs, after I told them my story.

Press Junketeer
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SunoffaBeach:

Apple is a religion, not a company. Why do you think they have the forbidden fruit as their logo?

hahaha I remember seeing a video of a christian rock festival once, guess what symbol was glowing triumphant from the back of the soundmans laptop???

A mac, to me, is like a fine european car. Pay top price, in gold. If you want to change anything, send it back to the company, pay more gold. Install new stereo? more gold. If it breaks? No chance if fixin it yourself. It is great to drive a europoean car, but I'd rather keep my gold and be able to mod my car for the price of junk from the recyclers.

As it is, I have a dualboot machine, running slackware, XP and an ipod (that i got real cheap), so I simply say, use the right tool for the right job.

Mac is NOT the right tool for gaming. If you want to game, then yes, tis shit for this purpose. Does a mac graphix card even support directx? (do macs even have a graphix card as I would understand it??)

Press Junketeer
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You know that there's no real difference between a Mac and any other computer, right? Macs and PC's (this dichotomy is in itself a misnomer since Macs are PC's) are made of the same hardware.

When you buy a Mac, you're essentially paying for overpriced hardware and an average operating system. You can easily construct a more powerful computer by ordering parts and assembling them yourself for half or two-thirds of what a Macintosh counterpart sells for. You also have the liberty to install whatever operating system(s) you wish. I dual-boot and get everything I want. Ever tried putting your OS's on a 32gig solid-state drive? Mac's don't give you the liberty to make design choices like that. Because I put my computer together from individual parts, I could decide every little detail. My reward: Windows 7 loads in under 14 seconds. Ubuntu 9.10 loads in 4-6 seconds.

Depending on your preference, you'll have your own opinion on putting something together yourself versus getting it ready-made. I think the former is much more rewarding and educational than the alternative, especially when the latter comes with ridiculous prices.

Muckraker
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mokes310:
Macs are glorified paperweights.

My favorite claim from Mac-heads is that they can do things better than PC's, i.e., video, photoshop, etc. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG, WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! It may be more difficult to learn on a PC, but the functionalities are the EXACT SAME!!!

Also, the claim that Macs don't get viruses. WRONG AGAIN!!! Who cares enough about Macs to actually program a virus for them???

So true... i mean I'm an Atheist but you must be the messiah of PCs :D

Infamous Scribbler
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Whoh- either you guys totally necro'ed a year old thread or there's something up with the dates on posts. Either way, Macs make me sad. I have to use one for one of the classes and I think it'd honestly be easier to use a PC that only uses Chinese.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 7 May 2009

Macs are far too expensive for what they offer, or don't offer rather. I could buy a high end gaming PC for the same amount and I wouldn't be limited to my selection of games it could play. And if I didn't want to play games on it, I would be paying top dollar for a glorified word processor. Not my idea of frugal.

To say PCs are more susceptible to viruses is true, but if anyone who owns a PC knows anything at all about computers, the chances of getting a virus are slim to none. And honestly, if you wanted to get around viruses altogether, you'd get Linux and run Windows on a virtualbox to play games. It's a snap to do.

Press Junketeer
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I think hating on Macs and their owners is a fad.

Paperboy
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Joined: 18 Nov 2009

Can't I have more options than that? Say, "it's your right to hate whatever you like, but I'm quite fond of them myself?"

Or is that a bit too milquetoast reasonable for these parts?

Anonymous Source
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thiosk:
I vote no, its your right to hate whatever you damn well please regardless of who it offends!

One thing I hate about mac USERS is their blind devotion to their products.

"Macs don't get viruses."

Well, no, not as often as PC, but you'd expect virus-writers to write a virus that will infect more than 5% of the population of computers in the world.

"I love my I-phone. I'm now on my fifth one since buying the first one at launch."

Rugged products FTW

i dont have an i phone but macs are better

Pulitzer Laureate
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Good morning blues:
Yes, you are wrong, because the products are streamlined and extremely well-designed, they have plenty of loyalty to their customers (my mac is lasting better than any other PC I've ever had, customer service and tech support are fantastic... I really don't know what you mean by this), the "product of the week" is the backbone of the IT industry, and if you seriously find the advertisements insulting you should probably get a life.

Macs can play games; it's just that most games are only developed for windows. And I have no clue where you're getting the idea that macs can't run "complex programs." How about Crossover? Crossover is a program that lets you run windows .exe files, from Notepad to Crysis, natively in OS X. How is that not a "complex program"?

Seriously, macs aren't perfect, and there's a bunch of shit wrong with them. None of what you identified is one of those problems.

Everything you said is true. My Mac is still going strong and is so easy to use.
OT: You are wrong to 'hate' Macs, I could understand if you preferred them, but hate?

I'm tired of people saying they're rubbish because their gaming capability isn't as strong as a PC's can be, I have a PS3 for gaming duuhh.

Press Junketeer
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rainman2203:
Whoh- either you guys totally necro'ed a year old thread or there's something up with the dates on posts. Either way, Macs make me sad. I have to use one for one of the classes and I think it'd honestly be easier to use a PC that only uses Chinese.

oh. I thought it was a NINE!!!! Well, I suppose we all accidentally raise the dead now and then.....?

Gone Gonzo
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After wrestling with iTunes for about half an hour, yes. Macs are good, but they're not worth the cost, and the whole elitist attitude just makes things worse.

Gone Gonzo
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I wish people wouldn't rule out a whole product out of generality. I'm forced to use a console as an example. I don't hate the Xbox 360, I just don't like the obnoxious fans who buy them, and the same goes for anything else including Macs/PCs. The Xbox is a competent console, but it doesn't have what I want, so I didn't buy it. I don't need to upgrade my computer every year, play games on it, or do anything excessively complex; I do need a good film editing machine, something polished, and something that's easy to use but if I want to do something a little more advanced I can. Therefore, I bought a Mac.
If I wanted to play games on my computer, write all sorts of code, use the Microsoft line of products, or have a complex machine then I'd buy a PC. Similarly, if I wanted to play a good FPS or buy Xbox Arcade games, I'd get an Xbox-but I don't, so I didn't buy one.

I think most people's problem is with fanboys, and if not fanboys in general then at least the fanboys defending the product you've chosen not to support. Let's open our minds here, people. Spread the love and such. *flowers?*

Gone Gonzo
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justhereforthemoney:
I think hating on Macs and their owners is a fad.

And I think Mac owners who think they are superior to any PC owner is just a fa-

Oh wait..

Press Junketeer
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ansem1532:

justhereforthemoney:
I think hating on Macs and their owners is a fad.

And I think Mac owners who think they are superior to any PC owner is just a fa-

Oh wait..

Haha lol, what is "oh wait"?

Muckraker
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Joined: 15 Apr 2009

Yay I hate Macs too. Everyone I know uses them because they are "trendy."

Press Junketeer
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black lincon:
with the exception of ipods i absolutely hate macs.

ipods arent macs , macs are the computers made my apple , the ipod is the mp3 player made by apple and yes they are nice but so are many other things for example the archos, it's just as good like

Pulitzer Laureate
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I've used both macs and PCs a lot and I much prefer macs, but I understand that this is just a personal preference and that others will have different priorities.

Gone Gonzo
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justhereforthemoney:

ansem1532:

justhereforthemoney:
I think hating on Macs and their owners is a fad.

And I think Mac owners who think they are superior to any PC owner is just a fa-

Oh wait..

Haha lol, what is "oh wait"?

That internet slang for Mac elitism has, and forever will, provoke PC rage.

Gone Gonzo
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I have to say quite wrong because the whole "MAC VS. PC!!!" argument is something hyped up and LOVED by both Microsoft and Apple. The matter is very simple. Which system do you like more? Having answered this question, use the system you like more.

The conversation should END THERE. No hate, no malice, and no self-righteous monologues. You are using the system that WORKS for YOU, and you should be indifferent to the other system.

Press Junketeer
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You cant hate something untill your try it. The realize its a piece of crap and toss it out a window.

So yes your wrong for now and will continue to be wrong untill you buy a Mac.

Me.... I simply dont understand and choose not to care about mac/ipod. My PC is everything I want it to be and my ZUNE HD kicks a massive ammount of ass.

Press Junketeer
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ansem1532:

justhereforthemoney:

ansem1532:

justhereforthemoney:
I think hating on Macs and their owners is a fad.

And I think Mac owners who think they are superior to any PC owner is just a fa-

Oh wait..

Haha lol, what is "oh wait"?

That internet slang for Mac elitism has, and forever will, provoke PC rage.

Oh I don't doubt that, I'm saying though I've never seen anyway who was spewing out their love for Macs, and I see a lot of insulting done towards Macs and their owners though.

Copy Clerk
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I love iPods, due to the the large capacity, but I hate macs. My problem the way they went about their business when computing was just coming into its own. Whereas IBM allowed their competition to use their... stuff, for the lack of better words, to develop the industry, Mac (apple? I don't really give a damn...) gave a resounding "Fuck your mother" when the topic came up. All in all, IBM developed an industry that if Mac had its way, would not be nearly as developed as it is now.

Beat Writer
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Joined: 21 Sep 2009

Of those 115, how many actually own or have owned a Mac?

Why the hatred, why just "not want one"? I don't hate pc's, I just don't want one. Mac's the thing for me and I don't care what other people choose for themselves. End of story.

Infamous Scribbler
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I can't truthfully say that I hate Apple because I've never tried any of their products, however, I can, in fact, say that I hate Mac Adds. That poor PC tries his hardest to coax the ignorant consumers into buying his product while the Mac just stands there doing nothing like he's trying to say,"I'm naturally so good that I don't even have to waste time persuading you to buy me, because I know that you are going to." What a conceited bastard.

Muckraker
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misterprickly:
Over the years I've been developing a real hate-on for Macs and Mac products.

I mean... when you combine the Crappy products, their lack of loyalty for their customers, those increasingly insulting advertisements and the IPhone/pod of the week!

That and the fact that Steve Jobs (founder of apple) had to buy back the very company THAT HE STARTED because the share holders ganged up and fired him over his handling of the company.

And they still claim that Mac is better than PC?! even though they can't play games, or handle complex programs, etc, etc, etc.

So am I wrong to hate Macs?

where is the i don't care option?

if you want to play good games, then PC all the way

Paperboy
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Joined: 11 Oct 2009

I do think Apple are a nasty, grasping corperation. However, Macs are invauable for music students, due to Garageband, so i must say i don't hate Macs.

Vive la revolution!

Press Junketeer
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No, not at all that OS is shit, crashes all the time. Plus steve jobs is a fascist dicator who forced steve wozniak to make him a computer (with stolen money). He was just "co founder".

The stockholders were right to try to fire him. But it didn't work, he came back and became even worse.

Gone Gonzo
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Macs represent simplicity and restriction.
PC represents freedom, be it of software, hardware.
I LOVE FREEDOM especially when it comes to technology/INTERNET, and loathe when corporations attempt to turn my PURCHASE into a RENTAL.
Also, the Mac ads are getting REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING.
HYPOCRISY FOR THE WIN

Copy Clerk
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NeedAUserName:
...but something like their iPod, which I feel is the best mp3/mp4 on the market.

Funny you used the word feel because I feel it's the worst MP3 player on the market. The first generation model was innovative, with their astonishingly (at the time) high capacity. But since then they really haven't done anything that wasn't done years earlier. Also, they have been ranked on the low end in terms of sound quality. Basically what I'm saying is the iPod doesn't really offer anything to warrant all the hype. Except for the Apple logo.

Muckraker
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I voted "yes". It's all preference. I've used PCs most of my life, and last year, I had to take a class that requires using a mac. While I was initially annoyed by little differences, I learned that there really isn't much a difference in terms of software or practicality. Unless you're into hardcore pc gaming, I'd say the mac vs. pc thing is a total waste of time.

Macs don't suck; they just do things a little differently. I do, however, find those mac vs. pc commercials really annoying. They're so ignorant and misleading. It's like listening to a smug fanboy.

Gone Gonzo
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I dislike Apple a lot, but I do really like my iPod. Here are some reasons why I think Apple can go die in a fire (except for the iPod department):

Mac Computers: People always complain about how PCs always get viruses. Yes, they do get viruses, and that's their main problem, IMO. However, viruses can be removed with an anti-virus program. When a Mac has a problem though, it's not a simple virus, it's always come kind of critical hardware failure (in my experience). That's not something you can just install a program to fix. You have to take it to the Apple store and get them to fix it, because you'll void their warranty if you try to fix it yourself.

iPhone: Yes, they're kind of cool. They also break extremely easily; literally everyone I know who has an iPhone (with the exception of maybe one or two people) have broken their iPhone at least once, whether by dropping it, or the phone just decided to not work. One could argue that it's their fault for dropping their phone, but other phones don't break like that. I've had many different phones over the years, my current one being a BlackBerry Pearl (which is a terrible phone, don't get it). I've dropped all of them more times that I can remember, but none of them broke. Sure they get scratched, but that's just aesthetic.

Commercials/Advertising: Yes, we get it Apple, you think you're the shit. They advertise themselves as being so innovative and revolutionary, when it's actually nothing more than just a different style. Most of these "innovations" are nothing more than things that look pretty, and in fact make it harder to use. A two-button mouse with a scroll wheel will always be better than a one-button mouse with a tiny scroll ball, or a buttonless touch-sensitive mouse (the computer mouse has already been perfected for it's purpose, why fuck with it just for "innovation"? Anyway, this leads to people thinking they're progressive and hip for using the latest Mac products. Yet when I ask them about technical aspects, only one person I've met was able to actually have a discussion about that.

Basically, PCs are great for everything I want to do, and Macs are great for showing everyone that you have a Mac.

/rant

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