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Paperboy
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Crazy Beetch is Crazy.

Gender feminists, womyn, feminazis, etc. only contribute to negative sterotypes of women, even going so far as forcing a second cause down the public's throat in the name of their skewed equality. Groups like NOW and the FMF have made homosexual-marriage, abortion, and economy-crushing environmental polices their primary focus, causing many modern females to refuse to label themselves as feminists. I've been yelled at for holding the door open before. I just slammed the damn thing in her face, the crazy bitch. Holding the door open is a universal politness, and I do it for anyone, not just females.

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What's wrong with homosexual marriage or abortion?

And seriously, where the hell does everyone get yelled at by random strangers for holding doors open for said random strangers?

Am I just that ridiculously charming to have always managed to avoid this all these years?

Paperboy
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jockslap:

The woman starts practically yelling at me about how she doesn't need a man to hold the door open for her, and that as a individual confident woman she could take care of herself.

maybe you should have asked her what she reeally needed.

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Eggo:
The only thing I model my life after is being a rational skeptic. If you're swearing upon rationality and skepticism in regards to me, you aren't really leaving much room for yourself when the dust clears.

I know, I know. I just thought it was funny how you lapsed into predictability for a second.

Don't take that too personally.

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I used to work at a petrol station that offered full driveway service, It was advertised on a big sign at the entrance. (full driveway service means that the attendant comes out and pumps yor petrol, checks the oil, water, tyre pressure etc.) Anyway, one day I was standing there behind the counter and this young woman drives in, as per company policy one of my collegues goes out to serve her. All he asked is " how is your day going" and what he got back was 400 centuries worth of female oppression and anger about how she didn't need any man to condescend to her and she was more capable and intelligent than him as he was just a service station attendant. I was stood inside as this yound lady ranted and raved, she litterally turned red with rage and then got back in her car and sped off.

The funny ending to this story is that this womans mother was a regular customer of ours and about 4 hours later with her daughter in tow came in and made the uber feminist apologise to us. It wasn't really a big deal but it is still a funny anecdote till this day.

I still hold doors open for people and have never been accused of sexism. some people have way too big a chip on their shoulder.

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meatloaf231:

Eggo:
The only thing I model my life after is being a rational skeptic. If you're swearing upon rationality and skepticism in regards to me, you aren't really leaving much room for yourself when the dust clears.

I know, I know. I just thought it was funny how you lapsed into predictability for a second.

Don't take that too personally.

I know what you're trying to do but why don't you realize that attempting to do so actually only disproves your point?

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Eggo:

meatloaf231:

Eggo:
The only thing I model my life after is being a rational skeptic. If you're swearing upon rationality and skepticism in regards to me, you aren't really leaving much room for yourself when the dust clears.

I know, I know. I just thought it was funny how you lapsed into predictability for a second.

Don't take that too personally.

I know what you're trying to do but why don't you realize that attempting to do so actually only disproves your point?

Say what about what now? You talking about my original point or my point about your communications?

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You're doing it again :(

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Eggo:
You're doing it again :(

I'm so confused. Well, whatever argument you were making, I guess you win.

Good night. I need sleep, badly.

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Cheeze_Pavilion:

Lord Krunk:

It's more of a courtesy thing, really.

Right--so it has nothing to do with hypocrisy.

No; not being courteous when others are courteous to you is pretty hypocritical.

And now I shall leave. This argument has reached the point of pointless flaming.

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Courtesy on (perceived) false pretenses isn't courtesy.

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Lord Krunk:

Cheeze_Pavilion:

Lord Krunk:

It's more of a courtesy thing, really.

Right--so it has nothing to do with hypocrisy.

No; not being courteous when others are courteous to you is pretty hypocritical.

And now I shall leave. This argument has reached the point of pointless flaming.

No, that's not being reciprocal--hypocritical is when you say one thing, but your actions conform to the opposite of what you are advocating.

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Cheeze_Pavilion:

Lord Krunk:

Cheeze_Pavilion:

Lord Krunk:

It's more of a courtesy thing, really.

Right--so it has nothing to do with hypocrisy.

No; not being courteous when others are courteous to you is pretty hypocritical.

And now I shall leave. This argument has reached the point of pointless flaming.

No, that's not being reciprocal--hypocritical is when you say one thing, but your actions conform to the opposite of what you are advocating.

I'll remember that.

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TheUnionForever:

jockslap:

The woman starts practically yelling at me about how she doesn't need a man to hold the door open for her, and that as a individual confident woman she could take care of herself.

maybe you should have asked her what she reeally needed.

Good call. Because it probably didn't have anything to do with feminism--she was probably just bitchy because of her period or morning sickness or something.

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I think wymen is a portmanteau of wyvern and woman, let's just get that out of the way. Secondly we all know that a woman's vagina is lined with several rows of hundreds of teeth each. This allows them to hunt their prey(A Penis)and devour it with animal-like ferocity. The outer layer is used primarily for holding their prey(Penis) while the back rows are for cutting. They are thin needle-like teeth that can be easily replaced if one falls out or is knocked out while the elusive Penis squirms and fights dearly for its very life.

I ran into a couple of Wymen not long ago, annoying creatures. But at least they are slow and not too bright. Their pincers are sharp though.

I saw some Wymen near the water, recently, I'd steer clear of them.
I saw a wyman the other day, disgusting creatures.

=)

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Cheeze_Pavilion:
Good call. Because it probably didn't have anything to do with feminism--she was probably just bitchy because of her period or morning sickness or something.

I would have taken it as a challenge to charm her into submission. If a woman is that pissed off, she may just be needing a good rogering.

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TheUnionForever:

Cheeze_Pavilion:
Good call. Because it probably didn't have anything to do with feminism--she was probably just bitchy because of her period or morning sickness or something.

I would have taken it as a challenge to charm her into submission. If a woman is that pissed off, she may just be needing a good rogering.

What a charmer you are. Though it is a possible reason for her short temper.

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Femenism ironically means that one believes that men and women should be equal.

More importantly, our society has only allowed us equal opportunity to play the game. To win the game, one must be an economically-aggressive white male.

We are leagues away from changing the rules of the game as a people, and that saddens me.

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It used to be easy to tell whether or not to hold to door open for a woman based on whether she had a sour expression on her face or not. These days, with all the starving skinny women who have tempers to match their hunger, it's too damn hard. I've pretty much given up holding doors for anyone under about 60, unless it's a woman with a smile on her dial.

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Cheeze_Pavilion:

HyruleanHyroe:

Yes, chivalry is alive and well...

AHAHAHA! I see your point, though I feel only the second example really makes any transgression. After all, you can't very well call a rude woman a dick, now can you?

Everyone's got an a-hole...and most people act like one, so it makes for a great thing to call people.

EXCELLENT POINT, SIR! Or Ma'am. I won't pretend to know.

I have changed my beliefs. I now believe that all women are dirty whores and they can hold their own damn doors. I'm going to spend the rest of my life as an outspoken and occasionally violent misogynist, so women around me actually have a legitimate reason to complain about me! THE UNIVERSE HAS ACHIEVED PERFECT BALANCE!

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Erana:
Femenism ironically means that one believes that men and women should be equal.

More importantly, our society has only allowed us equal opportunity to play the game. To win the game, one must be an economically-aggressive white male.

We are leagues away from changing the rules of the game as a people, and that saddens me.

Sorry to jump a little off-topic here but what exactly is "winning the game"? I thought this was an open-ended game where you can set your own goals.

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Q. How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb?
A. I don't know, I'm too afraid to ask if she needs help.

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lenin_117:
Q. How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb?
A. I don't know, I'm too afraid to ask if she needs help.

I'm afraid to say that I laughed, there.

No offence to anyone, but as I mentioned before, women are pretty much equal already. Now feminism borders between supremacy and arrogance.

EDIT: Well, over here it is.

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Yes! I have achieved LOL! I AM A GOD! But seriously, I haven't seen too much psycho-femenism personally and until they figure out how to open tightly sealed jars, reach the super-high shelves and learn basic lumberjacking/carpentry then they shouldn't complain when men try to help.

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Dele:

Sorry to jump a little off-topic here but what exactly is "winning the game"? I thought this was an open-ended game where you can set your own goals.

True, people get to set their own goals in life, but the social ideas of achievement is to be a CEO, or to be a Physician. Its a matter of prestige,(hand in hand with power and money) and how it is distributed, in my opinion, unfairly.

Lord Krunk:

I'm afraid to say that I laughed, there.

No offence to anyone, but as I mentioned before, women are pretty much equal already. Now feminism borders between supremacy and arrogance.

EDIT: Well, over here it is.

Where are you? I somehow doubt any true equality.
I would be delighted if you were to prove me wrong.

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Erana:

Dele:

Sorry to jump a little off-topic here but what exactly is "winning the game"? I thought this was an open-ended game where you can set your own goals.

True, people get to set their own goals in life, but the social ideas of achievement is to be a CEO, or to be a Physician. Its a matter of prestige,(hand in hand with power and money) and how it is distributed, in my opinion, unfairly.

Lord Krunk:

I'm afraid to say that I laughed, there.

No offence to anyone, but as I mentioned before, women are pretty much equal already. Now feminism borders between supremacy and arrogance.

EDIT: Well, over here it is.

Where are you? I somehow doubt any true equality.
I would be delighted if you were to prove me wrong.

Well where I live we got female president, ex-female PM, female quotas on everything possible (grr), difference between wages is 0-4% and men are drafted to army so I'd say atleast money-wise women are prettymuch equal (just add extra years of pension funds too due longer lifespan).

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Blade3dge:
And where it isn't self-imposed... Here in Australia they want to force companies to pay maternity leave (I should mention women dominated industries which DO EXIST! all ready pay maternity leave and those that don't in a sexist move expect men to support women) this WILL result in sexist recruiting policies for small companies who simply can not afford to pay this, say you hire 2 women and they both fall pregnant. Suddenly your new company that is barely breaking water has to pay two employees for no work whatsoever and has to hire another two to fill their positions and if you survive those 9 months good luck trying to fit those two women back into the roster. Paid maternity leave is a GREAT thing, I'm not debating it I'm simply stating that it is one of the few things that will give rise to true sexism from males on to females... Or heck even females would be hesitant to hire women.

I had to quote this because I have quite a qualm against paid maternity leave. In theory it has a purpose, which I offer my support however the current execution of this practice is absolutely atrocious; nine months paid leave? Are you kidding me? Two, maybe three at the most and this includes after the child is born. Some women today have taken nigh two years leave, leaving the company to pay wages for an essentially unemployed worker.

It has become ridiculous, especially considering now the Government is taxing the populous - in Canada at least - to pay for in my opinion are leave people taking advantage of the system. My mother took a total of four weeks during her pregnancy; yes she worked on the actually day before going to the hospital and only remained home for four weeks following before she was back working. Now I am willing to admit this is a rarity and settle on a longer portion of maternity leave, however anything beyond two months is general laziness.

Do not cite me that nonsense of a mother deserves to be able to send time with her child because she is freely able to do so should she choose, just not on someone else's dollar.

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Erana:

Lord Krunk:

I'm afraid to say that I laughed, there.

No offence to anyone, but as I mentioned before, women are pretty much equal already. Now feminism borders between supremacy and arrogance.

EDIT: Well, over here it is.

Where are you? I somehow doubt any true equality.
I would be delighted if you were to prove me wrong.

Australia, and I agree, there isn't much equality. Now women have bonus rights, along with anyone who isn't a white heterosexual male (which I happen to be). I support equality, but the way I see it, the guys upstairs aren't using the right approach.

As you mentioned before, women over where you live don't get as much pay as men do. I don't know where you live, but I suggest you move out. Over here, anyone who would even think of doing that would get sued into oblivion.

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The stats for women getting paid less are, acording to three academics in two seperate continents, skewed to a degree by the fact that on average a sizeable proportion of women will leave work and raise their children. While this is not all women, it is a sizeable enough proportion of women to warp the stats moderately.

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Cheeze_Pavilion:

In a Hunter Gatherer Society women are respected and occasionally deified. Men Hunt, Women Gather, Children are largely raised in a tribal commune, hence what is good for the tribe is good for your offspring etc.

Not true, actually. Women did a great deal of hunting with nets.

Hmm, would this be a good time to mention that fossil bone analysis of our ancient ancestors show that although some female skeletons showed hunting type bone wounds, all wounds on females of child bearing age were shown to be 'old' wounds i.e. wounds that had healed and were therefore not fatal. no female skeleton of child bearing age (12-14 and upwards) has been found with 'fresh' bone wounds i.e. MORTAL wounds.
This strongly suggests that although young girls may have participated in some form of hunting, girls of a fertile age most definitely did NOT. (lets face it a fertile womb is more important to the survival of the species than a fertile pair of testicles!)

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orifice:

Cheeze_Pavilion:

In a Hunter Gatherer Society women are respected and occasionally deified. Men Hunt, Women Gather, Children are largely raised in a tribal commune, hence what is good for the tribe is good for your offspring etc.

Not true, actually. Women did a great deal of hunting with nets.

Hmm, would this be a good time to mention that fossil bone analysis of our ancient ancestors show that although some female skeletons showed hunting type bone wounds, all wounds on females of child bearing age were shown to be 'old' wounds i.e. wounds that had healed and were therefore not fatal. no female skeleton of child bearing age (12-14 and upwards) has been found with 'fresh' bone wounds i.e. MORTAL wounds.
This strongly suggests that although young girls may have participated in some form of hunting, girls of a fertile age most definitely did NOT. (lets face it a fertile womb is more important to the survival of the species than a fertile pair of testicles!)

Number one, that would only change the terminology from "Women Hunt" to "Women Gather, Girls Hunt": you've still got females hunting, which is contrary to the popular image of the prehistoric division of labor.

Two, what exactly is a "hunting type bone wound"? How would you distinguish a wound suffered while hunting a rabbit with a net from any other sort of wound? Rabbit hunting isn't that skit from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, with a rabbit jumping around, biting people in the neck.

In short, you don't have to be going after a woolly mammoth or hogzillia to be hunting. Going after small game with a net is hunting, and I wouldn't expect too many MORTAL wounds from trying to catch chipmunks.

Three, where does fishing fit inbetween hunting and gathering in an era before seagoing fishing vessels?

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Erana:
Femenism ironically means that one believes that men and women should be equal.

More importantly, our society has only allowed us equal opportunity to play the game. To win the game, one must be an economically-aggressive white male.

We are leagues away from changing the rules of the game as a people, and that saddens me.

I don't at all mean to be rude, but I lol'ed. This is, ironically, the kind of archaic thinking that is dragging us down not just as men or women, but as a society.

Protip: I have not figured out how to hotlink just yet, so the links are of the "copy paste into your browser" flavour.

Fact 1: Men are more likely to be a victim of a violent crime. I don't exactly know what you meant by "the game", but if by "the game" you mean "everyday life" I would say this puts you ahead of the curve. Source: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/sdvv.pdf

Fact 2: There are half again as many women as men in college. If by "the game" you mean "receiving an education to pave the road for further success" it would seem your gender is ahead. Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2007-09-12-census-college-enrollment_N.htm

Fact 3: Saying that men earn more than women only takes into account the median yearly wage of the two genders. Women are actually paid the exact same wage as men, and what most people neglect to mention is that men are very predominantly hired for more dangerous work (danger pay) and are statistically more willing to relocate.

Fact 4: Those ridiculous statements that "95% of domestic abuse is directed against the woman (or womyn)" are quite simply false. Source: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071109210657.htm

And I'll just leave this right here. http://www.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml

Fact 5: Have you ever heard that statement that men receive far better healthcare than women? It's a lie, ladies and gentlemen. http://obf.cancer.gov/financial/attachments/06Factbk.pdf

If you don't feel like perusing that PDF, what it says is that almost twice as much money was spent on breast cancer research than prostate cancer research - despite the fact that in 2007 about 100,000 more cases of prostate cancer were diagnosed than breast cancer.

Just some food for thought.

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There is nothing wrong with believing in equal rights, but feminists don't. They want to take everything men have that doesn't effect them and ruin it. Urinals have been banned on countless college campuses because it's sexists that men stand up to pee I'm not lying go google it it's more common than you'd think. Having manors means you're nicer to women if she doesn't want your kind gesture then slam the door in her face and call her a dirty name treat her like any man who pissed you off would.

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More importantly, our society has only allowed us equal opportunity to play the game. To win the game, one must be an economically-aggressive white male.

........I was just in a hospital yesterday and saw a ton of female doctors and surgeons, we have a black president-elect right now.
If one of them hasn't won the game in your mind then I'd like to see the rules for this game.

Also, feminism is fine, feminazisism is not. Supporters the latter deserve to be slammed into brick walls repeatedly until their tiny insignificant brains come out. The former are perfectly human beings.

And, as long as the government is still able to draft(aka:fuck up your life whenever they feel like it) and females don't have to go in case of the draft I'm saying the government gives them an advantage.

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I don't know what you're talking about. Apparently chivalry is still alive where I live. I'm not joking. I do the whole chivalry thing without thinking about it and am held in very high esteem with my female colleagues.

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