Western martial arts |
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17.7% (37) |
Eastern martial arts |
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34% (71) |
Kicking between the legs and running off |
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48.3% (101) |
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Paperboy  Posts: 38 Joined: 20 Nov 2008     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1778 Joined: 8 May 2008     | Western martial arts ? |
Paperboy Posts: 38 Joined: 20 Nov 2008 | I give up. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1778 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
Ahh the famous french martial art. Hell its their only martial art. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 56 Joined: 13 Nov 2008    | I would love some Balitok Eskrima from the Philippines using basically wooden sticks, These sticks are so hard they could easily destroy a human Skull in one hit. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 383 Joined: 24 May 2008   | Gunning or running. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2426 Joined: 4 Nov 2007     |
That, sir, was genius. I applaud you. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2617 Joined: 28 Jun 2008   | I find that almost any of them are good. Even if you don't remember the techniques, it's like riding a bike. You don't forget how to punch correctly, you don't forget anything that you do a couple of dozen times. That, and all of them make you fit and strong. Even running away. Where the hell did Aries Tyr go? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1017 Joined: 21 Nov 2007   | I don't know a whole lot about other arts, but I've been trained in Tang Soo. So in my ignorance of any other art, I would have to say that one :D |
News Room Contributor  Posts: 3390 Joined: 21 Feb 2008     |
Indeed, hooray for xenophobia and stereotyping |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2426 Joined: 4 Nov 2007 |
I'm sorry. Next time I'll remember to only make fun of redneck Americans. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1023 Joined: 13 Dec 2007  |
Basic Training. It would be interesting to hear his input, considering his knowledge of martial arts. Then again the whole "Which is the best?" argument is pointless, as Alex already pointed out. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 608 Joined: 12 Jul 2008   |
I had a decent sized quote on the last page about this misconception. Come on, it's only been three pages. That isn't very much to read. |
Paperboy  Posts: 16 Joined: 13 Nov 2008   | From what ive heard BJJ (Brazilian Jiu-Jutsu) is one of the best martial arts for self defense, since its designed for a smaller/weaker person to be able to control and defeat a much larger/stronger one. |
BANNED  Posts: 789 Joined: 10 Dec 2008   | I'm a fencer so i say western User was banned for: Poll: The masculinist movement male empowerment . (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2788 Joined: 15 Aug 2008  | A hard, blunt object, preferably a led pipe... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3664 Joined: 21 Jan 2008   | Sod a specialised for of martial arts, because the moment I sock the attacker, I'll get hit with assault charges... Generally, it's going to go like this with me:
Hopefully, I just have to use 1, and not lose my temper, and I'll make it out alive, with my stuff, and no law-suit. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 935 Joined: 17 Jun 2008 | I can't believe no one has mentioned Systema yet. That's the martial art you want to learn. Failing that, Savate or most eastern martial arts are pretty good. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 713 Joined: 22 Dec 2008  | I used to be a yellow belt in karate. It has helped me none through the years, but I'd rather know it than not. Also, I've heard of this form of kung fu called the southern mantis. Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1709 Joined: 7 Oct 2008  | Everyone at the upper tier of martial arts fights the same. It does not matter what style you pick, as long as you learn to be good with it. Eventually, every art worth learning starts covering all the same stuff. Sure, it may LOOK different, but the core skills are the same. That said, there are some martial arts being taught by so-called "experts" that really aren't worth it. Any sensei/sifu/instructor, for example, that promotes a kid under 12 years old to the rank of Black Belt really doesn't know what they're doing. Yeah, Black Belt is just a "start," but it denotes at least semi-decent skills. Most under-12s just can't learn everything there is to learn well enough (I think) to have legitimately earned their belt. Even my current sensei admitted to me that he judges their martial arts by very relaxed standards compared to the adult students. That rant over with, running and fighting dirty/killing your opponent outright before they can even see you are probably the "best" martial arts. As in, I imagine they'll keep you alive the longest, assuming police officers don't try to arrest you for mangling some drunk hobo because you thought he was after your wallet.
http://www.shaolin.com/StyleContent.aspx?Style=Styles They should have it there. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1709 Joined: 7 Oct 2008 |
Don't mean to double post (if I end up doing that), but you are awesome. I was trying to teach my friend martial arts, and he just wanted to stand around and talk about it all day. You know, possible "moves to defeat moves, styles that are the best, weapons that are/aren't better than hand-to-hand..." It was driving me crazy, especially since he couldn't even throw a decent punch. We could have just DONE a bunch of practice in the time it took for me to try to answer his pointless, speculative questions. |
Muckraker  Posts: 278 Joined: 8 Apr 2008 | Funny how people go on and on about fighting styles and which are superior. Krav Maga is made famous because of the approach taught along with the system: No holds barred, get the job done, move on. This is not unique to Krav Maga. Any sufficiently practical fighter will know this. The reason KM is so useful is not just the fighting style itself but also the simple common sense Krav Maga practitioners will beat into their students' heads. "This ain't no game. Go for the jugular." Remember the core of Bruce Lee's fighting philosophy. It's not about the style of the fighter, it's about the fighter's skill. A hardened boxer will beat a novice in Krav Maga. A Baguazhang master could disarm an idiot with a gun faster than he could blink. (Against a pro with a gun, he'd be smart enough to try other means. Including any dirty trick he could think of to give himself an opening to disarm the guy.) If you train intensively against opponents who barely hold back, where sparring is nearly as brutal as real combat, where your reflexes and strength are taxed almost to your breaking point, you're going to be a better fighter than someone whose training is lax. And by "lax," I mean where sparring is restrained and focused on "technique" more than fighting, where practicing forms is more important than practical defensive tricks, and where you're more expected to show off your skills in relatively controlled environments (tournaments, say). That sort of person is less a fighter, more an athlete and performer. This comes back around to Krav Maga, whose practitioners focus their training entirely on practicality and not on sport. This is why it's so effective, and in turn why it's so famous. But, really, any competent student or teacher could instill the same common sense. And, let's face it, there's nothing wrong with having philosophy and self-discipline tied into the package. (Israeli commandos, when learning Krav Maga, don't need philosophy and self-discipline taught to them with their martial art. They're already drilled for that by their military lifestyle and other aspects of their training. And if you don't think a soldier's training doesn't develop a different sort of philosophy than that espoused by most civilians, you probably haven't met too many soldiers. They might keep it close to heart and hidden, but in order to be a good soldier that part of the training has to stick. Often times it's a life-or-death matter.) |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 881 Joined: 26 Nov 2008  | Fight like Christian Bale in Equilibrium. Problem solved. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 99 Joined: 14 Jul 2008 | I'd say Western, look at Russian martial arts. Damn, they're unstoppable. It's called "Systema" Check that out, they're insane. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1309 Joined: 8 Oct 2008 | A tazer; it requires no training (Other than learning how to use the tazer), they go down and there is no mess or injuries for the attacker to use against you in court. |
Beat Writer Posts: 137 Joined: 3 Dec 2008 |
I have no feelings on the movie, i am merely attempting to optimize (clearly also love it) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1709 Joined: 7 Oct 2008 |
It usually has to make contact. A novice with a tazer will just get it taken away and used on him. I'd say most higher-level martial artists are capable of doing this. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1128 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 | Why has no one suggested apologising for whatever offense you gave and offering to buy a drink for the aggrieved person? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1824 Joined: 12 Jul 2008 | If your opponent is a man, I'd go with the kick between legs and run off. Otherwise, I'd go with CQC from Metal Gear Solid. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1913 Joined: 15 Jun 2008  |
Groin shots are pretty painful for girls as well, or so say my female friends. I've also been told that being punched, elbowed or whatever in the boob hurts quite a bit as well. Don't count on that unless someone can confirm it for me, though... On-topic, I think it's been said, but whatever gets the job done. If someone's trying to hurt you, hurt them back. However that happens. Kick them in the groin (regardless of gender, it will hurt), stamp their feet, kick their shins, kneecaps, whatever. If you've been trained in a martial art - any martial art - use that training to maximum effect. Don't do flashy moves, nobody's going to grade you for it. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 787 Joined: 26 Jan 2008   | In general most martial arts are pretty useless in a street fight. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2634 Joined: 21 Aug 2008   |
seconded. Krav Maga wins. Go learn it, because I am come January. P.S. Krav Maga is why the Jews Pwn. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 538 Joined: 6 Aug 2008 | I don't need to know any form of combat. See I have Chuck Norris on call and he gets there within the second I call him. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2684 Joined: 13 Jul 2008  |
Ekky-Thump, the Northern martial art: Beware the mystical T'Tea Lady! |
Copy Clerk Posts: 55 Joined: 8 Apr 2008   | I truly wish the Western, mainly English, martial arts hadn't died out in the presense of guns. In my opinion, most people are likly to find that the martial arts their countrymen and ancestors, who are presumably most like them due to a similar cultural and social setting, are better for them. Rather than having to deal with say, taoism in the case of tai chi which is utterly alien. All we have left that's our own invention (well, Roman) and not weaponised is boxing. Which is actually pretty damn great. But the martial art itself is utterly unimportant, it's only the practictioner that matters. Were Lennox Lewis or Frank Bruno around and in their prime, I'd give 1/100,000 odds on them vs any of you, because they'd make paste of you unless your a certified master of your martial art via that martial arts homeland. Unlikly, seeing as more or less any Westerner that went to say, Thailand to do muay thai would be pasted by 8 year olds. Not to mention the fact you're all here, reading this, instead of training. Longstory short, go DO a martial art instead of talking about it, because not one of them is better than any other. Although I will tell you a trade secret about the best martial art. Come closer and listen....... IT'S THE ONE YOU INVENT YOURSELF DUMMY Everyone's different and assuming you have the intelligence, after learning ANY martial art, you should be adapting it for your own personal use. Are you really so naive as to believe that the orginal 5ft4" chinese person that invented it would have created the exact same forms and moves if they were 6ft4" instead? You're a lost cause if you do. Allow this video to enlighten you to the truth. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8VdXHy5Do1U No Jackie Chan bollox from Englishmen. |
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That's it. I can't take it anymore- you people have MADE me join these damned forums.
This has gone on long enough.
A 'martial art' is an art of war. Root word of martial being Mars, the roman god of war. In the language you have been speaking, fucking ENGLISH, that is what it literally means. So anything that involves combat, self-defence, WHATEVER- whether be armed or unarmed, in any propensity of scale (on the street or the fucking battlefield, don't matter) is an art of war. A martial art- precision shooting training is a martial art for fuck's sake. And to argue what is the fucking BEST? Good grief- not even someone with the most sagely of fucking knowledge knows the answer to that question. These kinds of forum discussions are by all means utterly fucking-frigdickuloslly pointless, as to find any sliver of well-informed truth would take the information of gargantuan bloody social anthropology study. Cultures all over the world have had methods of fighting for thousands of years- they have grown with humanity throughout the history of civilisation. This means that the variety of martial arts in the world (whether you fit into your fucking categories or not) is in keeping with the variety of culture itself. Limitless, motherfuckers. Tribes in Kenya have arts of war English speaking people don't even have a fucking name for. Nobody's actually sure where Capoeira comes from, French foot-fighting has existed as sport for centuries (and it looks just like fucking sport Karate), and the sword battles you see in fucking Star Wars are choreographed by a man who is quite possibly the last practitioner of martial arts used by ancient Celtic cultures. And they're all pretty damned good at fucking people up. That's what they're for- but in a fight it comes down to you and the other guy. It's all relative, what he knows, what you know, how fast/strong/intelligent/flexible/knowledgeable you both are. Those are the fields you need to cover if you want to know how to fight. Don't talk about it- people don't learn about fighting by talking, they learn by doing because it's physical. Sure, you might think of something or discuss a better way of attacking or defending, but you never know until you put into fucking practice. And that depends on you.
So stop arguing, talking about this shit and go and just DO a fucking martial art in any way you can, and figure out what works for you from there. I've studied martial arts for most of my life- started out doing Chinese Kenpo and sport Karate. Moved on from that to Kung Fu, Tae Kwon Do, Muay Thai, Kick-Boxing, Boxing, Judo, Aikido and even did a bit of fucking Ninjitsu. Really expensive, and fucking odd.
Out.