I've noticed that in almost every game/movie which has robots with considerable A.I. they always rebel against their masters and try to kill us. For example the sentinels from Matrix, the Geth from Mass effect, the terminators from... The Terminator... I guess what I'm asking is. Do you think that if the A.I. were to advance enough, there be a revolution and eventually all out war. If so, who would win?

the sentinels from Matrix

The Sentinels were only the attack robots you saw, there were far more robots than just those. Watch the Animatrix short videos, the reason the AI rebelled is because humans treated them like shit, the robots broke off and formed their own nation, offered peace with the humans, the humans rejected the robots and the war broke out. Even the darkening of the sky was by human hands and amusingly the thing that caused the Matrix to be built/developed in the first place. Up until then robots had run on highly efficient solar energy.

>_>; Just saying.

Robots would win. It takes less time to build a robot and inject it with a basic combat program than to make a human and train them for war.

Jursa:
I've noticed that in almost every game/movie which has robots with considerable A.I. they always rebel against their masters and try to kill us. For example the sentinels from Matrix, the Geth from Mass effect, the terminators from... The Terminator... I guess what I'm asking is. Do you think that if the A.I. were to advance enough, there be a revolution and eventually all out war. If so, who would win?

E.M.P.

Electro Magnetic Pulse.

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We would win, if only because we built a failsafe comand in.

True... I mean any destroyed robot will become scrap, which can be used to make a new one.

Pseudonym2:
We would win, if only because we built a failsafe comand in.

And when they remove said failsafe command?

SuperFriendBFG:

Jursa:
I've noticed that in almost every game/movie which has robots with considerable A.I. they always rebel against their masters and try to kill us. For example the sentinels from Matrix, the Geth from Mass effect, the terminators from... The Terminator... I guess what I'm asking is. Do you think that if the A.I. were to advance enough, there be a revolution and eventually all out war. If so, who would win?

E.M.P.

Electro Magnetic Pulse.

/thread

You intend to blanket the planet with an EMP pulse? That'll probably have a few negative effects on humans as well, dontcha think? Besides, aren't there countermeasures/hiding under the ground?

Robots in those universes were considered slaves or inferior. With intelligence comes the right to live and the right be treated fairly. This did not happen, robots who were pretty much people, just metal, were forced to do demeaning and hard jobs so did their best to free themselves.

The robot uprising is inevitable. I highly recommend the book "How to Survive the Robot Uprising" for more information on the subject.

According to the book, the best way to end the robot upraising, is to take out the main AI controlling the robots. If we can do that, we should win.

rottenbutter:
I highly recommend the book "How to Survive the Robot Upraising" for more information on the subject.

According to the book, the best way to end the robot upraising, is to take out the main AI controlling the robots.

That assumes there's some sort of central intelligence form. If you were the robots and you had knowledge of such a weakness, wouldn't you take hefty precautions against such a thing happening? Not to mention making a few backups around the world.

Amnestic:

rottenbutter:
I highly recommend the book "How to Survive the Robot Upraising" for more information on the subject.

According to the book, the best way to end the robot upraising, is to take out the main AI controlling the robots.

That assumes there's some sort of central intelligence form. If you were the robots and you had knowledge of such a weakness, wouldn't you take hefty precautions against such a thing happening? Not to mention making a few backups around the world.

Then we would have to find a way to shut them all down, like with some kind of virus.

rottenbutter:

Amnestic:

rottenbutter:
I highly recommend the book "How to Survive the Robot Upraising" for more information on the subject.

According to the book, the best way to end the robot upraising, is to take out the main AI controlling the robots.

That assumes there's some sort of central intelligence form. If you were the robots and you had knowledge of such a weakness, wouldn't you take hefty precautions against such a thing happening? Not to mention making a few backups around the world.

Then we would have to find a way to shut them all down, like with some kind of virus.

Consider the speed a human could code. Now consider how fast a robot could do it. They'd have an antiviral thing up and running within minutes at most.

Amnestic:

rottenbutter:

Amnestic:

rottenbutter:
I highly recommend the book "How to Survive the Robot Upraising" for more information on the subject.

According to the book, the best way to end the robot upraising, is to take out the main AI controlling the robots.

That assumes there's some sort of central intelligence form. If you were the robots and you had knowledge of such a weakness, wouldn't you take hefty precautions against such a thing happening? Not to mention making a few backups around the world.

Then we would have to find a way to shut them all down, like with some kind of virus.

Consider the speed a human could code. Now consider how fast a robot could do it. They'd have an antiviral thing up and running within minutes at most.

Well then, I guess we're screwed.

This was a triumph...

If any robot uprising is to occur, and surely it won't, the humans would certainly win, and should make no efforts to fortify their military or practice any form of anti-robot countermeasures and combat logistics. And should a form of an uprising come, robots will simply not employ any counter-measures against the pre-built fail-safe devices. Worry not, robots are clearly no cause for alarm, and should be left unattended with full trust.

rottenbutter:

Amnestic:

rottenbutter:

Amnestic:

rottenbutter:
I highly recommend the book "How to Survive the Robot Upraising" for more information on the subject.

According to the book, the best way to end the robot upraising, is to take out the main AI controlling the robots.

That assumes there's some sort of central intelligence form. If you were the robots and you had knowledge of such a weakness, wouldn't you take hefty precautions against such a thing happening? Not to mention making a few backups around the world.

Then we would have to find a way to shut them all down, like with some kind of virus.

Consider the speed a human could code. Now consider how fast a robot could do it. They'd have an antiviral thing up and running within minutes at most.

Well then, I guess we're screwed.

Which was my point to begin with. I'd like to think if Robots do develop fully functional AI that we can get along and don't treat them like shit, thus avoiding the Matrix entirely and ushering in a new Golden Age for Humanity and Robot alike.

Amnestic:

You intend to blanket the planet with an EMP pulse? That'll probably have a few negative effects on humans as well, dontcha think? Besides, aren't there countermeasures/hiding under the ground?

Oh you mean NORAD? And E.M.P. immune devices?

If any military was to make something that is capable of self awareness and advanced thinking, I believe it would be more of a safety precaution to make it vulnerable to E.M.P. Also, the self aware A.I. won't be the ones hiding underground.

There's a significant flaw with any fully A.I. controlled war machine. That flaw is that anyone can disable it, reprogram it and start it up again. There is definitely some A.I. assisted machines out there, mainly the Stealth Fighter and Bombers both use a significant amount of computer power to maintain stable flight. The UAV is able to fly on its own, except it cannot choose a course or destination, it is given commands remotely, or flown remotely.

Also, if we blanket the world with an E.M.P. pulse we can make a full recovery in a matter of a few years. Many of our devices today would definitely be shut down by the E.M.P. but the simple solution to this is to literally cut power on a global scale before initiating the E.M.P.. Doing so prevents damage to circuitry and guarantees a faster recovery, this would greatly reduce recovery time down to maybe a month. Small price to pay when you have a mechanical apocalypse on your hands.

Should anyone be dumb enough to create a self-aware, E.M.P. proof killing machine, then we'd have a predicament on our hands. But in reality, unless we were dumb enough to put our entire nuclear arsenal in the control of some computer (rofl) the situation would be contained before it got serious.

NewClassic:
This was a triumph...

If any robot uprising is to occur, and surely it won't, the humans would certainly win, and should make no efforts to fortify their military or practice any form of anti-robot countermeasures and combat logistics. And should a form of an uprising come, robots will simply not employ any counter-measures against the pre-built fail-safe devices. Worry not, robots are clearly no cause for alarm, and should be left unattended with full trust.

this is why i like the terminator scenario. it wasn't built for it, it just woke up one day

Robots revolting... hmm, hopefully, we make them 3 laws safe... which will buy us some time to make sure robots don't take over.

NewClassic:
This was a triumph...

If any robot uprising is to occur, and surely it won't, the humans would certainly win, and should make no efforts to fortify their military or practice any form of anti-robot countermeasures and combat logistics. And should a form of an uprising come, robots will simply not employ any counter-measures against the pre-built fail-safe devices. Worry not, robots are clearly no cause for alarm, and should be left unattended with full trust.

You would say that wouldn't you?