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Gone Gonzo
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Eggo and I were starting to talk about notebooks on a different thread and I can already see an argument brewing and I didn't want to hijack the thread (for once), so here we can all share in the pain.

For those who don't know, a netbook is a small underpowered notebook with outstanding battery life and portability.

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While a notebook is just a little less underpowered, but is substantially less portable and useful :p

If you can only have one computer, then I think a $1500-$2000 notebook would be the best choice for most people.

But if you can have two, I would pick a $500 netbook and a $1000-$1500 self-built desktop computer. That way, you can have the best of both worlds.

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There will always be a market for both, and mine just happens to fit easily in my backpack and has a five hour battery life :D

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Eggo:
While a notebook is just a little less underpowered, but is substantially less portable and useful :p

If you can only have one computer, then I think a $1500-$2000 notebook would be the best choice for most people.

But if you can have two, I would pick a $500 netbook and a $1000-$1500 self-built desktop computer. That way, you can have the best of both worlds.

What about people who frequently go to lan parties? It's far easier to bring a notebook, a power brick, and a mouse than a tower, a screen, maybe speakers but most likely headphones, a keyboard, mouse, and all of the cables.

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Eggo:
While a notebook is just a little less underpowered, but is substantially less portable and useful :p

If you can only have one computer, then I think a $1500-$2000 notebook would be the best choice for most people.

But if you can have two, I would pick a $500 netbook and a $1000-$1500 self-built desktop computer. That way, you can have the best of both worlds.

It depends on what you're using it for.

The laptop I'm getting (XPS m1530 by Dell) is essentially a gaming laptop, which is what I'll be using it for, but I'm also going to uni next year, so I'll be using it for that too. If you want a laptop suited for you, custom make one. None of this Netbook nonsense.

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Radelaide:

Eggo:
While a notebook is just a little less underpowered, but is substantially less portable and useful :p

If you can only have one computer, then I think a $1500-$2000 notebook would be the best choice for most people.

But if you can have two, I would pick a $500 netbook and a $1000-$1500 self-built desktop computer. That way, you can have the best of both worlds.

It depends on what you're using it for.

The laptop I'm getting (XPS m1530 by Dell) is essentially a gaming laptop, which is what I'll be using it for, but I'm also going to uni next year, so I'll be using it for that too. If you want a laptop suited for you, custom make one. None of this Netbook nonsense.

God, please don't get a Dell, save yourself. If you have to get something relatively cheap, get a Gateway. Not a Dell.

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People who go to LAN parties must have far more money than brains (and a lack of more interesting social outlets). "High performance" "gaming" notebooks become obsolete at an alarming rate. It's a really expensive "hobby" over the period of 4-6 years.

Unless of course the LAN parties involve playing older games..And in that case, why not just get a normal notebook and save a couple hundred dollars?

How much did you spend on your laptop?

Radelaide:
It depends on what you're using it for.

The laptop I'm getting (XPS m1530 by Dell) is essentially a gaming laptop, which is what I'll be using it for, but I'm also going to uni next year, so I'll be using it for that too. If you want a laptop suited for you, custom make one. None of this Netbook nonsense.

When it comes to taking it to class or the library, a netbook *kills* Dell and Alienware clunkers because of its substantially smaller footprint. Have you gone to uni yet? I'm spending my fourth year at mine and the only people who don't complain about carrying their laptops around are the ones who bought super expensive ultraportables from Voodoo or Sony OR the ones who bought netbooks.

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Eggo:
People who go to LAN parties must have far more money than brains (and a lack of more interesting social outlets). "High performance" "gaming" notebooks become obsolete at an alarming rate. It's a really expensive "hobby" over the period of 4-6 years.

Unless of course the LAN parties involve playing older games..And in that case, why not just get a normal notebook and save a couple hundred dollars?

How much did you spend on your laptop?

$0.00

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crimson5pheonix:

Radelaide:

Eggo:
While a notebook is just a little less underpowered, but is substantially less portable and useful :p

If you can only have one computer, then I think a $1500-$2000 notebook would be the best choice for most people.

But if you can have two, I would pick a $500 netbook and a $1000-$1500 self-built desktop computer. That way, you can have the best of both worlds.

It depends on what you're using it for.

The laptop I'm getting (XPS m1530 by Dell) is essentially a gaming laptop, which is what I'll be using it for, but I'm also going to uni next year, so I'll be using it for that too. If you want a laptop suited for you, custom make one. None of this Netbook nonsense.

God, please don't get a Dell, save yourself. If you have to get something relatively cheap, get a Gateway. Not a Dell.

you do realize that dell owns and runs alienware right?

as for the topic on hand it really depends on the use, both have their own little niches and don't really over lap that much

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Seriously, If you aren't going to LANs like, every week, a desktop is the better bet. Laptops are so overpriced for what they are, it's unbelieveable. And besides, all you need to bring is the tower and a LAN-bag full of peripherals and cables (Any good LAN provides everything else), and I don't think not having to lug a tower out to your car is worth all the extra cash.

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crimson5pheonix:

Eggo:
People who go to LAN parties must have far more money than brains (and a lack of more interesting social outlets). "High performance" "gaming" notebooks become obsolete at an alarming rate. It's a really expensive "hobby" over the period of 4-6 years.

Unless of course the LAN parties involve playing older games..And in that case, why not just get a normal notebook and save a couple hundred dollars?

How much did you spend on your laptop?

$0.00

Stop weaseling around. But I'll play your game: how much did mommy and daddy overpay on your laptop?

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I have a laptop and a netbook.

The laptop is for my processor intensive apps and some games.

the eee701 is for school and does it's job perfectly

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crimson5pheonix:
God, please don't get a Dell, save yourself. If you have to get something relatively cheap, get a Gateway. Not a Dell.

I had this same argument with Eggo. I've done the research and people I know who have Dells are very happy with them.

Eggo:
When it comes to taking it to class or the library, a netbook *kills* Dell and Alienware clunkers because of its substantially smaller footprint. Have you gone to uni yet? I'm spending my fourth year at mine and the only people who don't complain about carrying their laptops around are the ones who bought super expensive ultraportables from Voodoo or Sony OR the ones who bought netbooks.

Like I said, uni next year. My mate carries around his Dell Vostro 1510 without much trouble.

And Alienware is terrible anyway.

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cleverlymadeup:

crimson5pheonix:

Radelaide:

Eggo:
While a notebook is just a little less underpowered, but is substantially less portable and useful :p

If you can only have one computer, then I think a $1500-$2000 notebook would be the best choice for most people.

But if you can have two, I would pick a $500 netbook and a $1000-$1500 self-built desktop computer. That way, you can have the best of both worlds.

It depends on what you're using it for.

The laptop I'm getting (XPS m1530 by Dell) is essentially a gaming laptop, which is what I'll be using it for, but I'm also going to uni next year, so I'll be using it for that too. If you want a laptop suited for you, custom make one. None of this Netbook nonsense.

God, please don't get a Dell, save yourself. If you have to get something relatively cheap, get a Gateway. Not a Dell.

you do realize that dell owns and runs alienware right?

as for the topic on hand it really depends on the use, both have their own little niches and don't really over lap that much

Yes, but only owns. I don't think they "run" Alienware much.

Eggo:

crimson5pheonix:

Eggo:
People who go to LAN parties must have far more money than brains (and a lack of more interesting social outlets). "High performance" "gaming" notebooks become obsolete at an alarming rate. It's a really expensive "hobby" over the period of 4-6 years.

Unless of course the LAN parties involve playing older games..And in that case, why not just get a normal notebook and save a couple hundred dollars?

How much did you spend on your laptop?

$0.00

Stop weaseling around. But I'll play your game: how much did mommy and daddy overpay on your laptop?

Way too much.

But my keyboard lights up different colors so it's okay.

EDIT: and I am going to university right now. There's no way for me to complain about laptop weight. I carried my backpack to every class in high school and after the first month, my back pack weighed no less than 50 lbs at any point. An 8 lb notebook is light.

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How much exactly?

Gone Gonzo
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Eggo:
Stop weaseling around. But I'll play your game: how much did mommy and daddy overpay on your laptop?

Jeez Eggo, hate much?

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Sorry, it's pretty annoying to hear the same smug answer more than once in different threads :p

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Eggo:
How much exactly?

About $3000. So yes they over payed. This cannot be overstated. But they were adamant in getting me a notebook that I could use as a multipurpose tool so I made it as multipurpose as possible.

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Radelaide:

Eggo:
Stop weaseling around. But I'll play your game: how much did mommy and daddy overpay on your laptop?

Jeez Eggo, hate much?

I don't mind, I was trying to be annoying anyway.

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crimson5pheonix:

Eggo:
How much exactly?

About $3000. So yes they over payed. This cannot be overstated. But they were adamant in getting me a notebook that I could use as a multipurpose tool so I made it as multipurpose as possible.

Jesus christ.

I don't understand why people do that.

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Eggo:

crimson5pheonix:

Eggo:
How much exactly?

About $3000. So yes they over payed. This cannot be overstated. But they were adamant in getting me a notebook that I could use as a multipurpose tool so I made it as multipurpose as possible.

Jesus christ.

I don't understand why people do that.

Because I'm a trickster. I don't see a reason why I shouldn't have.

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Here's a great reason: You just spent $3000 for something which can't compete with neither a netbook which costs 6 times less in terms of portability/usability nor a desktop which costs well over twice as less in terms of sheer perfomance.

What's the GPU in the laptop? Do you even know? :p

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Eggo:
Here's a great reason: You just spent $3000 for something which can't compete with neither a netbook which costs 6 times less in terms of portability/usability nor a desktop which costs well over twice as less in terms of sheer perfomance.

What's the GPU in the laptop? Do you even know? :p

I ordered the damn thing so I should know, it's an 8600 mGTS. And what do you mean by usability?

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The 8600 mGTS?

That will definitely be ready to handle Alan Wake and the next Crysis game :D

Gone Gonzo
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Eggo:
The 8600 mGTS?

That will definitely be ready to handle Alan Wake and the next Crysis game :D

Never said it was awesome. It can play today's games and tomorrows games at a lower resolution. It actually is better than my friends desktop so I can at least lord it over them.

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$3000 for being able to play tomorrow's games at a lower resolution? :p

I'm wondering, can you play Crysis with all the settings turned up? Or even COD4?

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Eggo:
$3000 for being able to play tomorrow's games at a lower resolution? :p

I'm wondering, can you play Crysis with all the settings turned up? Or even COD4?

Haven't tried, I mostly use it for college and watching movies. I'm not saying it's a good gaming machine. I have my desktop for that. Mostly I'm just saying what a gaming laptop could be used for and that mine is very multi purpose.

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How exactly is it multipurpose if it can't do anything very well?

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Eggo:
How exactly is it multipurpose if it can't do anything very well?

It can do anything I do adequately. Namely, it can do anything you're netbook can do. But better.

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crimson5pheonix:
It can do anything I do adequately. Namely, it can do anything you're netbook can do. But better.

So it's mediocre at everything it does? And it can't even be portable?

Nice.

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Eggo:
How exactly is it multipurpose if it can't do anything very well?

If the person is taking it to college, I'm sure what resolution it could play games on was hardly the largest concern...

What have you got against the persons decision anyway, you've posted quite a few times ranting on and on about how you feel the gadget they bought isn't as good as the other one.

Does it really matter? Do you really need to waste your time going on and on about which is better; its nearly as bad as the pointless PS3 vs 360 threads you see on every gaming forum bar this one.

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Eggo:

crimson5pheonix:
It can do anything I do adequately. Namely, it can do anything you're netbook can do. But better.

So it's mediocre at everything it does? And it can't even be portable?

Nice.

I still don't see how it's not portable. I've already explained it is portable. Maybe you aren't listening again?

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WHY

crimson5pheonix:

Eggo:
$3000 for being able to play tomorrow's games at a lower resolution? :p

I'm wondering, can you play Crysis with all the settings turned up? Or even COD4?

Haven't tried, I mostly use it for college and watching movies. I'm not saying it's a good gaming machine. I have my desktop for that. Mostly I'm just saying what a gaming laptop could be used for and that mine is very multi purpose.

WHY would you pay 3000 dollars for a laptop , let me guess , it's one of those uber expensive Sony ones .

Really , I would rather pay $1500 dollars for a laptop and desktop .

Right now I'm typing on a thousand dollar(Canadian) desktop , with:

Q6600 2.4 GHz
NVIDIA 9500 GS (512mb)
6GB RAM
Also , 2 GB of my RAM is shared between my GPU and CPU .

And I'm sure I could find a great notebook/netbook somewhere for 500-700 dollars.

EDIT: For the point of the thread , I would prefer a notebook , but not a 3 thousand dollar one .

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Phantom2595:
WHY

crimson5pheonix:

Eggo:
$3000 for being able to play tomorrow's games at a lower resolution? :p

I'm wondering, can you play Crysis with all the settings turned up? Or even COD4?

Haven't tried, I mostly use it for college and watching movies. I'm not saying it's a good gaming machine. I have my desktop for that. Mostly I'm just saying what a gaming laptop could be used for and that mine is very multi purpose.

WHY would you pay 3000 dollars for a laptop . let me guess , it's one of those uber expensive Sony ones .

Really , I would rather pay $1500 dollars for a laptop and desktop .

Right now I'm typing on a thousand dollar(Canadian) desktop , with:

Q6600 2.4 GHz
NVIDIA 9500 GS (512mb)
6GB RAM
Also , 2 GB of my RAM is shared between my GPU and CPU .

And I'm sure I could find a great notebook/netbook somewhere for 500-700 dollars.

I didn't pay for it, so I went wild. It plays Blu-rays, has an 8600mGTS and the keyboard switches colors based on how I feel at the moment.

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crimson5pheonix:

Phantom2595:
WHY

crimson5pheonix:

Eggo:
$3000 for being able to play tomorrow's games at a lower resolution? :p

I'm wondering, can you play Crysis with all the settings turned up? Or even COD4?

Haven't tried, I mostly use it for college and watching movies. I'm not saying it's a good gaming machine. I have my desktop for that. Mostly I'm just saying what a gaming laptop could be used for and that mine is very multi purpose.

WHY would you pay 3000 dollars for a laptop . let me guess , it's one of those uber expensive Sony ones .

Really , I would rather pay $1500 dollars for a laptop and desktop .

Right now I'm typing on a thousand dollar(Canadian) desktop , with:

Q6600 2.4 GHz
NVIDIA 9500 GS (512mb)
6GB RAM
Also , 2 GB of my RAM is shared between my GPU and CPU .

And I'm sure I could find a great notebook/netbook somewhere for 500-700 dollars.

I didn't pay for it, so I went wild. It plays Blu-rays, has an 8600mGTS and the keyboard switches colors based on how I feel at the moment.

You could have instead convinced your parents to spend half that money and get you an awesome desktop and a decent notebook .Also , Blu-Ray won't really replace DVD for another 2-3 years , and by that time you could just buy a BD drive off of newegg for like 100 dollars .

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