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Gone Gonzo
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smallharmlesskitten:

crimson5pheonix:

You aren't. You just feel that way. Wasting that HDD with ubuntu of all things.

It's less than 1 GB... I have 50GB set aside for it as everything takes up next to no file space. )

It's still a waste of productive space. You could use that for pictures, movies, music,porn

Gone Gonzo
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crimson5pheonix:

smallharmlesskitten:

crimson5pheonix:

You aren't. You just feel that way. Wasting that HDD with ubuntu of all things.

It's less than 1 GB... I have 50GB set aside for it as everything takes up next to no file space. )

It's still a waste of productive space. You could use that for pictures, movies, music,porn

not really.. I have 500GB total. It's all good.If I need more space I can just add another HDD

Gone Gonzo
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smallharmlesskitten:

crimson5pheonix:

smallharmlesskitten:

crimson5pheonix:

You aren't. You just feel that way. Wasting that HDD with ubuntu of all things.

It's less than 1 GB... I have 50GB set aside for it as everything takes up next to no file space. )

It's still a waste of productive space. You could use that for pictures, movies, music,porn

not really.. I have 500GB total. It's all good.If I need more space I can just add another HDD

Waste of space... And what a small amount of HDD space.

Red Guard
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crimson5pheonix:
It's still a waste of productive space. You could use that for pictures, movies, music,porn

You know what's a waste of productive space? 12 GB just for the "Windows" folder in Vista.

Oh, and, since we're on the topic of storage now, your big hard drives are crying because you formatted them as NTFS.

-- Alex

Gone Gonzo
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Alex_P:

crimson5pheonix:
It's still a waste of productive space. You could use that for pictures, movies, music,porn

You know what's a waste of productive space? 12 GB just for the "Windows" folder in Vista.

Oh, and, since we're on the topic of storage now, your big hard drives are crying because you formatted them as NTFS.

-- Alex

They don't have tear ducts....

Infamous Scribbler
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crimson5pheonix:

BlueMage:

RAKtheUndead:
But the question was about whether notebooks or netbooks were better. Now, I like the idea of a netbook. Small, able to be carried about easily - I can't see why university students would want anything else for actual college work. I've tried lugging about my laptop through college - it's a gargantua compared to an ASUS Eee PC, not helped by the fact that I haven't been able to hack in a wireless connection to Trinity College's network. However, I'd rather have that larger screen and slightly lesser cost compared to a netbook, and so I chose notebook, less because I'd ever want it for games, and more because an old one can be picked up quite cheaply.

Again, I can speak from both sides here. 2.5 of my 5 years total at uni, I carried with me a fairly large Acer Travelmate, and while I loved it dearly (and still do! Desk-bound though it now may be) it was a pain to lug, and required an investment in a whole new backpack complete with laptop area.

Not so the Eee. That thing I could practically carry on its own, or just chucked into a small backpack with its own carry-case around it for protection. It ran all the presentations my lecturers had, and while it wouldn't run all the software we needed to run, that's what uni lab computers are for.

The only failure of the Eee was that QUT's wireless network at the time was in the transition between exclusively VPN and exclusively PEAP-authenticated, with the VPN to be phased out very rapidly - and the VPN being the only method offered for Eee users to connect. And despite my efforts, I could never get wpa_supplicant to play nicely :(

Portability was never a problem with mine. I already had a backpack left over from high school that had a laptop area-thing and weight means nothing to me. My backpack in high school after the first month, never went below 50lbs and I had to carry the thing down 2 flights of stairs in the morning and up 2 flights of stairs in the afternoon because it was the only way to get to my room.

Edit 50lbs=22.6796kg

Fair enough. I know that feeling also, yet my bag was mostly just a single large cavity - no real place to store a laptop securely and snugly.

But that's why I love the Eee :) toss it in anywhere - it'll survive the journey just fine.

Gone Gonzo
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crimson5pheonix:

smallharmlesskitten:

crimson5pheonix:

smallharmlesskitten:

crimson5pheonix:

smallharmlesskitten:

ameatypie:

Oh, well anyway. There are third party programs that'll do that for cheaper.

Maybe. But Vista Ultimate is COOLER.

Vista is not "cool"... Linux is cool

Have fun with your WINE, I'll enjoy un-emulated games.

I dont use WINE. I have a Vista boot (It was free with my PC) for games and things exclusive to windows and my Linux, Mostly variations of Ubuntu, for everything else

Well don't you feel like the pretty pony?

Yes...Yes I do... More like a Donkey as I use Vista.

At least I'm pretty!

You aren't. You just feel that way. Wasting that HDD with ubuntu of all things.

Which is why I tend to stick to Linux variants like Debian and openSUSE - the home versions of operating systems they use on supercomputers, servers and workstations. OK, you sell your soul out just as much using SUSE as you do using Windows, but it's open-source nonetheless.

Alex_P:

crimson5pheonix:
It's still a waste of productive space. You could use that for pictures, movies, music,porn

You know what's a waste of productive space? 12 GB just for the "Windows" folder in Vista.

Oh, and, since we're on the topic of storage now, your big hard drives are crying because you formatted them as NTFS.

-- Alex

Agreed - unfortunately, WinXP not only doesn't like ext3, it doesn't even recognise it.

Gone Gonzo
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RAKtheUndead:

crimson5pheonix:

smallharmlesskitten:

crimson5pheonix:

smallharmlesskitten:

crimson5pheonix:

smallharmlesskitten:

ameatypie:

Oh, well anyway. There are third party programs that'll do that for cheaper.

Maybe. But Vista Ultimate is COOLER.

Vista is not "cool"... Linux is cool

Have fun with your WINE, I'll enjoy un-emulated games.

I dont use WINE. I have a Vista boot (It was free with my PC) for games and things exclusive to windows and my Linux, Mostly variations of Ubuntu, for everything else

Well don't you feel like the pretty pony?

Yes...Yes I do... More like a Donkey as I use Vista.

At least I'm pretty!

You aren't. You just feel that way. Wasting that HDD with ubuntu of all things.

Which is why I tend to stick to Linux variants like Debian and openSUSE - the home versions of operating systems they use on supercomputers, servers and workstations. OK, you sell your soul out just as much using SUSE as you do using Windows, but it's open-source nonetheless

Haha, you sold your soul to an open source program. Does that mean the community can modify your soul now?

Red Guard
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RAKtheUndead:
Agreed - unfortunately, WinXP not only doesn't like ext3, it doesn't even recognise it.

Or JFS. Or XFS. Or HFS. Or UFS. Or ZFS. Or Reiser and Reiser4.

(To be fair, I don't think any Linux distribution currently supports ZFS, either.)

-- Alex

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smallharmlesskitten:

ameatypie:

Oh, well anyway. There are third party programs that'll do that for cheaper.

Maybe. But Vista Ultimate is COOLER.

Vista is not "cool"... Linux is cool

Meh. Different types of cool

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Vista is very cool when you want to do:

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Eggo:
Vista is very cool when you want to do:

I cant tell for sure, but is that top one Far Cry 2? And what exactly is going on in the bottom one?

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The first one is Crysis Warhead.

The second one is Cakewalk Sonar. It's one of the most powerful digital audio workstations ever made. In that screenshot, you can see the editing and use of: both audio and MIDI to a video, surround sound channels, software synthesizers, a drum sampler, and a whole lot more.

Gone Gonzo
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Sonar is a very helpful program. My dad uses it, but it's probably an older version than the one you showed Eggo.

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crimson5pheonix:
Sonar is a very helpful program. My dad uses it, but it's probably an older version than the one you showed Eggo.

Uh oh, someone's ban ended... but yeah, Sonar seems interesting.

Gone Gonzo
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xitel:

crimson5pheonix:
Sonar is a very helpful program. My dad uses it, but it's probably an older version than the one you showed Eggo.

Uh oh, someone's ban ended... but yeah, Sonar seems interesting.

It can do quite a bit. I like using the program. Hardly stresses my dad's computer too.

Gone Gonzo
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Alright, moving on. What are your opinions of Core i7? I'd like to have it and 6 gigs of DDR3 RAM in my computer right now. Unfortunately I'd also like food, water, and shelter.

On the Record
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You know, I still have yet to fix my mic.

Gone Gonzo
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xitel:
You know, I still have yet to fix my mic.

Really? Like I said, call the manufacturer because I don't see how this could be anything except a hardware malfunction.

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crimson5pheonix:

xitel:
You know, I still have yet to fix my mic.

Really? Like I said, call the manufacturer because I don't see how this could be anything except a hardware malfunction.

I like my plan of just dealing with it cause I'm lazy as hell.

Gone Gonzo
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xitel:

crimson5pheonix:

xitel:
You know, I still have yet to fix my mic.

Really? Like I said, call the manufacturer because I don't see how this could be anything except a hardware malfunction.

I like my plan of just dealing with it cause I'm lazy as hell.

Always an option, try adding a third party mic and see if that shuts off the default one. It may or may not.

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crimson5pheonix:

xitel:

crimson5pheonix:

xitel:
You know, I still have yet to fix my mic.

Really? Like I said, call the manufacturer because I don't see how this could be anything except a hardware malfunction.

I like my plan of just dealing with it cause I'm lazy as hell.

Always an option, try adding a third party mic and see if that shuts off the default one. It may or may not.

Well, there's two input devices, the mic, and a "Stereo Mix".

Gone Gonzo
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xitel:

crimson5pheonix:

xitel:

crimson5pheonix:

xitel:
You know, I still have yet to fix my mic.

Really? Like I said, call the manufacturer because I don't see how this could be anything except a hardware malfunction.

I like my plan of just dealing with it cause I'm lazy as hell.

Always an option, try adding a third party mic and see if that shuts off the default one. It may or may not.

Well, there's two input devices, the mic, and a "Stereo Mix".

Use a separate mic. Try and borrow one from a friend before you buy one.

Gone Gonzo
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ameatypie:

smallharmlesskitten:

ameatypie:

Oh, well anyway. There are third party programs that'll do that for cheaper.

Maybe. But Vista Ultimate is COOLER.

Vista is not "cool"... Linux is cool

Meh. Different types of cool

NO! Linux is not cool! Just because your friends says it is, doesn't mean that it is. DARE to be Linux free!

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Linux is neckbeard cool.

Gone Gonzo
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Eggo:
Linux is neckbeard cool.

Neckbeard? How is a neckbeard cool? Weather it's cool or not, is it practical? I suppose if you could hide a weapon it'd be okay. Or maybe a computer mouse. Just in case.

Gone Gonzo
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crimson5pheonix:

ameatypie:

smallharmlesskitten:

ameatypie:

Oh, well anyway. There are third party programs that'll do that for cheaper.

Maybe. But Vista Ultimate is COOLER.

Vista is not "cool"... Linux is cool

Meh. Different types of cool

NO! Linux is not cool! Just because your friends says it is, doesn't mean that it is. DARE to be Linux free!

You, sir, have lost in an epic manner. You seem to be missing the point entirely - Linux isn't meant to be "cool". It's meant to work on just about every piece of modern hardware there is, all the way from things only slightly larger than an RJ45 connector all the way up to the IBM Roadrunner.

Unless you expressly want them, there are no pretty-but-ultimately-useless transparency effects, window animations, et cetera. Vista, by the way, isn't particularly cool either, what with its effete name versus the old Microsoft products (XENIX - now those were the days) and its inability to be used on anything other than a PC up to small server level - there's something to be said for an operating system that can be scaled up to the most monstrous computers in existence, which is not an attribute of Windows Vista.

Paperboy
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theres a netbook now?

Muckraker
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NO! Linux is not cool! Just because your friends says it is, doesn't mean that it is. DARE to be Linux free!

I have never used linex for more then 5 mins and i dont really like it.... but if i say no linux is NOT cool then Cameron (smallharmlesskitten) Will throw a gigantic temper tantrum.

Pulitzer Laureate
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I use ubuntu on my desktop right now. I really like it, everything is extremely fast. The only issue I've had with it is that Broadcom are a bunch of dicks and don't like releasing their drivers to open source kids.

I'm going into network security, so I kinda need to know linux, because a majority of servers use linux (but I still have to learn about microsoft system administration too ;_;).

Beat Writer
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I feel 14" is a good size for a computer and has adequate power available for video and cpu. For reference, i use a IBM (Lenovo) T60p; great computer.

Gone Gonzo
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RAKtheUndead:

crimson5pheonix:

ameatypie:

smallharmlesskitten:

ameatypie:

Oh, well anyway. There are third party programs that'll do that for cheaper.

Maybe. But Vista Ultimate is COOLER.

Vista is not "cool"... Linux is cool

Meh. Different types of cool

NO! Linux is not cool! Just because your friends says it is, doesn't mean that it is. DARE to be Linux free!

You, sir, have lost in an epic manner. You seem to be missing the point entirely - Linux isn't meant to be "cool". It's meant to work on just about every piece of modern hardware there is, all the way from things only slightly larger than an RJ45 connector all the way up to the IBM Roadrunner.

Unless you expressly want them, there are no pretty-but-ultimately-useless transparency effects, window animations, et cetera. Vista, by the way, isn't particularly cool either, what with its effete name versus the old Microsoft products (XENIX - now those were the days) and its inability to be used on anything other than a PC up to small server level - there's something to be said for an operating system that can be scaled up to the most monstrous computers in existence, which is not an attribute of Windows Vista.

No, you sir, have failed in an epic manner as you have failed to realize it was a joke and I like Linux.

Gone Gonzo
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ameatypie:

NO! Linux is not cool! Just because your friends says it is, doesn't mean that it is. DARE to be Linux free!

I have never used linex for more then 5 mins and i dont really like it.... but if i say no linux is NOT cool then Cameron (smallharmlesskitten) Will throw a gigantic temper tantrum.

Beat him down! is he physically imposing or something?

Muckraker
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crimson5pheonix:

ameatypie:

NO! Linux is not cool! Just because your friends says it is, doesn't mean that it is. DARE to be Linux free!

I have never used linex for more then 5 mins and i dont really like it.... but if i say no linux is NOT cool then Cameron (smallharmlesskitten) Will throw a gigantic temper tantrum.

Beat him down! is he physically imposing or something?

No..... He just wont take NO for an answer :D

Gone Gonzo
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crimson5pheonix:

Eggo:
Linux is neckbeard cool.

Neckbeard? How is a neckbeard cool? Weather it's cool or not, is it practical? I suppose if you could hide a weapon it'd be okay. Or maybe a computer mouse. Just in case.

"It's not a neckbeard! It's a heatsink!" Cookie for the kid who gets the reference. It's OBSCURE!!

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