elgringobandito:

Castrate the Heathen:
(And it's not humour you anti-american commie bastards).

Oh, I forgot. You spawned the language. That's why it's called American.

I hate America.

Your just jealous!
/sarcasm.

Phantom2595:
[quote="Castrate the Heathen" post="18.78302.972572"][quote="elgringobandito (TERRORIST)" post="18.78302.972468"]Oh, I forgot. You spawned the language. That's why it's called American.

I hate America.

Why do you hate freedom?

I know I should feel bad, but what you said and the picture just made laugh.

And on the topic of France,
Most of all it's just because we Americans like to make fun of random people we meet online because there are no real consequences for doing so.
Also the LARGE majority of French players on Live are jerks.(Then again, who isn't?)

sirdanrhodes:
I thought these threads were banned?

Should be. Anyways, they're human beings, just like the rest of us.

ChocoCake:
Well, I don't like the French all that much because my grandpa told me to. He was a British Major, and has been always mad at them since WW2.

I find that ironic. It seems to me your grandfather hates the French for surrendering and allowing the Germans to focus on Britain. The French surrender was more of a tactical choice since the foundations of "La Resistance" were laid just before the surrender. The French provided a LOT of information to the Allies during the war. Not only that but the French also sabotaged and did a lot more then the French army could have behind the scenes.

My great grandmother was from France so a part of my heart will always love them as a part of my heart is one of them.

Americans (the intelligent kind that dislike the french) seem to hate them because they know without french support the USA would not have survived, and they hate to feel as though they owe another country anything.
The morons (probably the majority) hate them because they are blindly following the more intellectually capable among them.

I dont dislike the french, i just make fun of there terrible war record.

if it was not for us they would all be speaking german right now :)

I kid I kid.... >.>

Well, Americans gotta love them, they sacrificed their own nation in support of our revolution, which resulted in the end of France as it was known at the time.
Secondly, never really knew any French folks until this summer. I attended a wedding where the brides family flew in from france, and I had to laugh as I watched Americans mix their bourbon with Coke, while the french graciously accepted their bourbon straight up, including her 90 year old grand mother. If nothing else, they can hold their Maker's!

Iron Ninja:
So, random American I found somewhere, what do you think about France?

Random American I found somewhere:
They is a dumb country. They terrorists. They cowards.

Iron Ninja:
I see, you've certainly made some valid points with solid backing.
Oh wait no you haven't, would you care to give examples and reasons behind your claims?

Random American I found somewhere:
*Starts sobbing uncontrollably*
What you got against 'merica?
You're a terrorist ain't you?

Iron Ninja:
Answer the question.
Just give a reason for one of them if all three is too hard.

Random American I found somewhere:
They is cowards, they quit outa world war 2!

Iron Ninja:
Ah, the old second world war thing eh?
You ever heard of the French Foreign legion?

Random American I found somewhere:
No... Ain't they all foreign?

Iron Ninja:
The french foreign legion, along with the free french army led by Charles de Gaulle, fought for the entirety of the war, despite the Vichy government surrendering to the axis.
On top of that there was also the French resistance movements, which, while not as effective as some of the eastern European resistance groups, did rather well considering the many advantages the German occupiers had over them.

Meanwhile America managed to sit out half of a war of the worlds, not once, but twice. When the "cowardly" French took part in both of them from start to finish.

Random American I found somewhere:
Buh?

Iron Ninja:
Buh indeed.

Random American I found somewhere:
You can't tell me what I can and can't hate!

Iron Ninja:
Fine, hate away, I just want to know why.

Random American I found somewhere:
I got a reason, they was mean to us. Said nasty french things about our Government.

Iron Ninja:
Really?
Wow, I guess I can't top that.
Wanna know what the French did to my country?

Random American I found somewhere:
What's your country?

Iron Ninja:
New Zealand.

Random American I found somewhere:
Ain't that that new type of sausage? (I've honestly been asked that)

Iron Ninja:
Yes.

France infiltrated my sausage of a country with two secret agents, and used explosives to blow up a Greenpeace boat in one of our harbours, one man was killed in the explosion.
The agents were tried in New Zealand and began to serve a jail sentence, then the French government asked if they could serve their time in France, so we gave them back.
They were both released in the course of six years and promoted.

I myself, and almost every person I know, holds no resentment towards the French, certainly not to the same levels that Americans seem to harbour. And quite frankly I find it confusing that the country that not only supported your war for independence with weapons and manpower but that you have also never once had a war against, would be so hated.

(Seriously, why the fuck do I always get asked if New Zealand is that new type of sausage?)

I'd say within the last 30 yrs America's relationship with France has deteriorated; why I dunno (I think they slew the first insult) but we typically get along (FYI:My chronology is probably wrong);
French-Indian War: Against
Revolutionary War (U.S.):For
Revolutionary War (France):For
War of 1812:For
Napoleonic War(s):Against
Civil War:Against (unless you are from the South)
Giving us the Statue of Liberty: For
(What I believe is)The Crimerean War:For
WW1: at first Against then For
WW2: For
And then after that is when the rift grew

And Secondly don't say the American culture is narrow-minded if you are doing the same thing!

My dad's heritage is English, my mum's heritage is French and as such I have chronic self-loathing ;-)

Phantom2595:

Castrate the Heathen:

elgringobandito (TERRORIST):
Oh, I forgot. You spawned the language. That's why it's called American.

I hate America.

Why do you hate freedom?

[Crying Bird]

Hating America doesn't mean you have to hate freedom, you could hate them because of their American Dream and irresponsible lending that plummeted the entire world into and economic crisis.

Whats wrong with a "dream of a land in which life should be better and richer and fuller for everyone, with opportunity for each according to ability or achievement....in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position." ?

As far as the economic thing, I saw it coming a few years ago and I laughed and laughed and laughed at people buying houses they couldn't afford. I am still laughing too.

Grampy_bone:
Yeah I've never really gotten the whole France hatred thing. I mean, without them the USA probably wouldn't exist. To show our gratitude, we didn't help them at all during their own revolution. Aren't we great buddies? Then they even gave us this really neat statue and everything to show they still loved us (I guess it's in New York or something.)

Well Technique we got support from their 'corrupt' government and not their people, and in fact we were somehow blamed for why the french peasants was starving in the streets, not the fact that Louis XIV spent a lot of money on a pretty palace. You expect a bunch of Farmers to ride over to France like Calvary showing up over the hill to help them with a revolution?

Personally I have not hate the French. In fact most French people I've meet have been pretty cool. However, isn't it more fun to associate an entire country with a select few?

well the french resistance didnt do much. sure they scouted out a bit. but thats what we had airborne and the marines for as well. they were like the poles. the french were kinda asking for it due to there terrible equipment and lacking of an effective border against german.

Hell, when the french were hiring mercenaries for there airforce many pilots couldnt fly the french planes because France was the only country to have all the controls BACKWARDS on there planes. that and the details of them were that, there engines were unreliable and the frames were so bad that a .22 could puncture it.

in all honesty if the french had better equipment (like revamping EVERYTHING from rifles to tanks to airplanes) they could have easily won.

well that and the morale of the men was terrible and there was like a 65% desertion rate.

dont get me wrong. what France lacks in defense and its military, it makes up for it in its research in medicine and biology

(Seriously, why the fuck do I always get asked if New Zealand is that new type of sausage?)

Maybe it's some sort of sideways innuendo on "Can I have sex with you?"

Wait a minute? Do Americans hate the French and the Brittish don't? What the hell? It seems my stereotypical views of the relationships between those countries have been completely wrong...

I'm half French and half English. However the English side is the more dominant side (I am currently wearing an England Rugby Jersey!). I also live in France. To be honest I quite like the French. Honestly speaking they aren't all that different except the language barrier. The dynamics between the English and the French are pretty damn funny. You have the heated rivalry but it is also a lot of playful teasing. Things like "Roast Beef" and "Frog" are tossed around quite a lot. Other then that the French are really nice and only disliked because they have a more complex and better sounding language (yeah I went there).

Jenkins:
well the french resistance didnt do much. sure they scouted out a bit. but thats what we had airborne and the marines for as well. they were like the poles. the french were kinda asking for it due to there terrible equipment and lacking of an effective border against german.

Everyone paints the French as surrendering wimps. Then when talking about the Resistance they say that they were sneaky rats. Compare the number dead in the First World War between all nations.
(Can check here http://www.ysursa.com/history/West%20Civ/Textbook/WWI-casualties.htm)

The French lost the second most amount of men, second only to Russia. Now comparing the 6 odd million French casualties to the 250,000 casualties of the Americans. Or the 3 million British casualties. France was crippled after the First World War. The reason they were invaded so quickly was to avoid the total downfall of France as a nation. I personally respect that decision. And about the Poles. They were victims of an incredibly fast invasion. Germany never declared war. Also they were over powered by two nations due to the Nazi-Soviet pact meaning Germany and Russia would invade from each side.

Good food, I don't understand a word of their language though.

I'm sort of french, though not really, I don't live there (or lived) but I am an offical french citizan
but for real french people. no, though everyone else I know seems to hate them >.>

i dont see why the French have such a hard time. one of my house mates is French (well, her dad's American, her mum's French and she grew up in France) and we do tease her a bit with jokes like 'whats the difference between the French army and toast.....you can make toast into soldiers' and that i say anything French is 'on froncay' (just to clarify, i know thats spelled wrong) and its great fun. i don't get why people don't like them, the ones i know are great.

implodingMan:
I was thinking about French military history, which is more extensive than most people think, and I came across this page.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp

Nice list of victories, draws, and losses.

Plus the American Independence War would have been lost without French support, so Americans paid them back with that whole World War 2 business. I'd say they are even right now.

Oh, and I am French Canadian, but that is a whole other bucket of worms.

That's a very interesting link, but it also shows some interesting bias in battle selection; every single engagement from the 100 Years' War is included, but then there's an amazing leap from 1453 to 1509, 1515, 1544 and then nothing till 1643; I think France fought more than 5 battles in some 200 years... Still a good primer, though.

Oh well, this list has a good example of France vs the Nazis

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=ttzp219uWbU

smallharmlesskitten:
There are two things I cannot stand... People who are intolerant of other peoples cultures. And the French.

oh the irony. if i had a signature this quote would go straight into it.

I really love French culture, films, music, humor, and food, actually. Several locations in France are up there on my list of places I'd like to visit before I die.

Also, Emily Loizeau > most people.

I think the relationship between France and America took a massive blow when Jacques Chirac (the French president at the time) backed out on the 'War on Terror'.
I lol'ed when George Bush tried to change the name of French fries to 'Freedom Fries' xD.
Personally, I have no qualms with the French (being part-french myself :DD). Food's great, language's sexy, and the southern beaches are made of pure win. :P

I sometimes have a thing against the French on XBL, but that is normally when they get host I am laggy heh.

Other than that, all jokes/insults against them I have no idea what they are based on.

What's the difference between a Frenchman and a piece of toast? You can make soldiers out of toast.

How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris? Don't know, they've never tried.

I live in France by the way. And right now it's about -10 degrees and covered in snow. The Cheese is cold and the wine is frozen. Right now it's not the best place to be :|

But generally it's alright.

What the hell is French cuisine besides wine, croissants and snails?

In my experience, American French hating is just a running joke, but then I don't hang out with all that many intolerant people. I will say that I have several French relatives, so I may not be the best American to ask about this.

STORY TIME
Last Easter, I traveled to Paris. I bought a pass for the Metro, and I was about to get past the turnstile when some young teenagers (16 or so) jumped over the big barrier and unlocked it from the other side! Then they asked me if I would like to come through the barrier! French people are nice!

Vuzzmop:
Strange how the americans seem to forget the incredible bravery and dedication of the French Resistance when reffering to them as, and I quote "surrender monkeys".

The media probably has a lot to do with it; before the eighties, the French were normally portrayed quite positively in american film and TV, and then once they started stepping on US Cold War policies (As anyone who is afraid of horrible nuclear death might do)the US media seemed intent on portraying them as cowards with horrible accents and odour problems. Gee, coincidence?

Personally, I found the few French people I have met to be both likeable, and nice smelling.

No. "Americans" is wrong. "Stupid Americans" might be more accurate. Personally, I feel nothing but nothing for the French, because I'm not a cunt who judges people based on what their country does, or what their leaders think. I don't hate the Japanese, because I don't -know- any Japanese people. And if I did, I'd judge THAT person, not everyone else by them.
And yeah, I'm American. Though I personally think that people who are all, and I quote, ""'Murica, heck yeah!"" can fuck right off. Full offense meant to your father, Madnezz. Sorry.

theklng:

smallharmlesskitten:
There are two things I cannot stand... People who are intolerant of other peoples cultures. And the French.

oh the irony. if i had a signature this quote would go straight into it.

I am 100% certain he was probably joking, maybe.

I was once with a French girl. She was really pretty and had a great accent. As the evening went by, we got progressively drunker and randier. I suggested going back to her place. She accepted. As we were walking to her place I was getting more and more excited. Would all the stories of French eroticism be true? As we got into her lounge she removed her top. Lo and behold, she had more underarm hair than me. I shouted "Holy Shit!" and literally ran out the door and down the street, with her calling after me, "What?! What is wrong?!"

So that's why I feel weird about the French. They got good food tho.

theklng:

smallharmlesskitten:
There are two things I cannot stand... People who are intolerant of other peoples cultures. And the French.

oh the irony. if i had a signature this quote would go straight into it.

Heh, from Austin Powers I believe?

i generally dislike them for disliking england. when the EU was starting France voted to keep england out. when English was decided to be the language of the EU France insisted that it was also french (this is why they commentate in English then in french but not in any other language).

also for any agreement in which another country has to do something they will pounce on them as soon as they start to slip up. but then when tey are set to do something they will often refuse to even attempt it.

Meh, wished they speak english to tourists, or at least attempt too...Or at least talk a bit slower french so I might decipher it...but nooo they wanna talk french all the damn time, and refuse to give me time to figure it out ><

The US and France used to be on good terms, remember that little statue (of liberty) they built for the Americans? Unfortunately, when France said "Invade Iraq? I dunno that sounds like a not-so-good Idea." Suddenly they weren't 'french fries' anymore, they were 'freedom fries'. In other words, the US collectively shat on their mates for being honest, it was a rather disgusting smear campaign and the French I've heard comment are still largely going "WTF?" over it.