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Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 741 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 | Again I've just heard theres a warning about the New York subways or something possibly being bombed in the near future. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 720 Joined: 9 May 2008 | Something like UNATCO is not only possible but is actually a reality already. The "UN Peacekeeper" forces that get sent in to different places when unrest sprouts up are pretty much a light version of what UNATCO was in DeusEX. It's only a matter of time before the UN talks enough countries into turning control of their militaries over to a "multi-national" command of some kind to form something just as powerful as UNATCO. The one world government is going to happen. The first steps towards it have already been made. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 741 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 | Isn't that a little different from what I said? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2290 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 | I think an efficient UNATCO type organisation is long over due. A few rotating platoons or specialists that can be flown at the drop of a hat bomb. Wouldn't be overly expensive given general cost commitments. A unit trained and/or staffed by a combination of SAS and IDF (Israeli Defence Force) personnel is going to make terrorists shit their pants. They would however need a quick authorisation system. Something like a request from the targeted nation plus one Security Council sponsor with a serious report/screening process after each event. |
Paperboy Posts: 41 Joined: 16 Nov 2008 | what be amazingly usefull except if deus ex taught me anything this will lead to a giant conspiracy theory and a plague and i really dont think its worth the risk... |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 741 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 | I kinda envisioned more along the lines of Rainbow... |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 760 Joined: 4 Sep 2008 | May I point out the effectiveness of previous UN endeavors as an example as to why this would be unsuccessful? |
Anonymous Source Posts: 9 Joined: 14 Jan 2008 | geee... conspiracies and plague or fear of public transport... I think a Unatco could work, even if it does get out of hand like Deus Ex shows us, they'll end up going to far and all will reset. |
Paperboy Posts: 41 Joined: 16 Nov 2008 | well there is one way to calm the fears of people like me we need two brothers who are cyborgs and we should be fine so just find two cyborgs who are brothers and im fine with it |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 741 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 | I think it would be better if such an organisation acted as a publically acknowledged group, ignore all the stuff about conspiracies with Cyborgs and AIs with a fetish for Greek myth. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 9 Joined: 14 Jan 2008 | The problem, as with other forms of control, is who actually controls it. I'm all for world police, but controls would need to be in place. Do we stop full scale rebellains? Do we help countries that aren't on the level? Etc I still like the idea, because regardless I think it'll create more peace. Btw, what was the rainbow reference you made earlier? I am not familiar. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 741 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 | Rainbow Six is based off a Tom Clancy novel, Six is the codename of John Clark, the leader of Rainbow in its first appearance, being a major star the novel is titled after his full codename, Rainbow Six. The first game has some meshing with the novel, everything after that has no links at all. Rainbow is very similar to this proposal:
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Anonymous Source Posts: 1 Joined: 27 Nov 2008 | No, Savage. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 741 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 |
Wuh? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1657 Joined: 18 Nov 2008 | World police? Didn't Team America try that already? |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 569 Joined: 27 Nov 2008 |
Exactly. For instance, the United Nations mission in Sierra Leone, in which a not insignificant number of peacekeepers were actually collaborating with the rebels they were meant to be fighting. The UN's problem is that it draws inneffective troops to it's peacekeeping endeavours, big nations don't want to give troops, so nations with poorly trained militaries give the troops for the $1 million/month/battallion payout. Any UNATCOesque organization would have the same problems. |
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BANNED Posts: 938 Joined: 14 May 2008 | I would like to see a UNATCO vs Rainbow Six deathmatch. Genetically enhanced death machines vs Chavez Ding*. *For the uninformed Chavez Ding = God in rainbow six 1 and 2...and 3? User was banned for: A boss encounter one may never forget.... (Permanent) |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 760 Joined: 4 Sep 2008 |
It's not just this; it's the UN's unwillingness to actually act on something. In Rwanda, for example, Canadian Peacekeepers were sent in, but not allowed to fire their weapons. A number of them were killed during the genocide, so the UN decided to send in troops to extract them, rather than defend the country they were there to keep peace in. Then there's nuclear issues, the Veto powers nations get, etc. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1611 Joined: 25 Jun 2008 |
Zippy would kick those terrorist's arses. I'm not sure how Bungle, George, Jeffrey or Rod, Jane & Freddy would hold up in a proper fire-fight though... |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1161 Joined: 2 Sep 2008 | Pointless since each country has it's own special forces and agencies trained for anti-terrorism and aren't too willing to expose their training secrets. If they ever did it would be little more than publicity stunt to show a more cohesive UN. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2350 Joined: 14 Sep 2007 |
You just gave me an excellent idea. UNATCO sounds like a nice idea. But I'm only in if trenchcoats and sunglasses are standard-issue. |
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After watching a detailed report on, of all things a German English-Language satellite broadcast (The Journal from DW-TV) about the situation in Mumbai, today's Zero Punctuation, and the fact I've bought Deus Ex for the fourth time last week, I've thought hard on the subject of a UN-based Counter-Terrorism agency. In this modern age, most politicians are screaming the evil threats of Terrorists, Militaries are gearing up for smaller scale urban warfare and CT actions, does the idea of a UNATCO-like body sound:
1) Possible,
2) an effective measure,
3) an example of cultural differences being put aside to
back neo-con/alarmist conservatives agendasunite nations against terrorism& 4) not going to lead to a MJ12 type global coup?
UPDATE: The Counter-Terrorism divisional Chief for Mumbai was killed in the attacks today.