If you were in England and saw someone breaking one of your home laws would you intervene?
Also:
What do you, personally, class as excessive force?
With regards to self-defence
i.e. guy A gets attacked by guy B, how much harm does guy A have to cause before you think he's gone too far?

EDIT: will you bust anyone on this thread who admits to crimes? lol

Graustein:
Right, that does make sense. But still, any comment on the "you must help" rumour?

Never heard of it, but you say "one of the french provinces"... There's only one. Quebec. Assuming you were speaking of Quebec, all I can say with regard to that place is it's a really fucked-up and ass-backwards one, and it has 90% of all the dumbest laws in the country... Most of said laws being openly pro-french racism which if someone legislated an english version of, they'd riot.

Is there a reward for turning in illegal immigrants in your state, like there is here in Arizona? I always figured it was just border states.

I've heard that when a person is pulled over for minor traffic infractions, the officer is really only there to give a warning, but depending on how the person being pulled over acts, they will get a ticket.
Is that true?

Or when an officer pulls someone over, they are going to give a person a ticket. Also, I doubt it's true, but do officers have some sort of 'quota' that they have to meet?

Khell_Sennet:

Graustein:
Right, that does make sense. But still, any comment on the "you must help" rumour?

Never heard of it, but you say "one of the french provinces"... There's only one. Quebec. Assuming you were speaking of Quebec, all I can say with regard to that place is it's a really fucked-up and ass-backwards one, and it has 90% of all the dumbest laws in the country... Most of said laws being openly pro-french racism which if someone legislated an english version of, they'd riot.

Shows how much I know about Canada. Thanks for that though.

This is from the perspective of a political activist who's had some.. interesting times with police at protests, albeit in Australia.

What is the US police force's policy when it comes to non-violent anti-governmental protests?

I hear a lot in left-wing reports of trigger-happy cops with their wonderfully "Non-lethal" tazers giving protesters hell even if the protest itself is in no way condoning violent or becoming violent. In addition I'm far from a fan of US policy in general, and would probably wind up at a protest if I ever went to the country.

Oh, and another question. What sort of Sedition laws does the US have?

1&2. Has anyone ever been wise crackig when you pulled them over? If so what's the funniest thing they've said?(I like to do that kind off thing to anyone of higher authority who catches me doing something(only extremely minor things))

3. If I carry around a moderate to large blunt object that is somewhat threatening looking(a wooden dowel to a sledge hammer, ), but have no intents or purposes to use as a weapon only in the case of self defense. Is it illegal or just very suspicious and slightly unethical?

Labyrinth:
This is from the perspective of a political activist who's had some.. interesting times with police at protests, albeit in Australia.

What is the US police force's policy when it comes to non-violent anti-governmental protests?

I hear a lot in left-wing reports of trigger-happy cops with their wonderfully "Non-lethal" tazers giving protesters hell even if the protest itself is in no way condoning violent or becoming violent. In addition I'm far from a fan of US policy in general, and would probably wind up at a protest if I ever went to the country.

Oh, and another question. What sort of Sedition laws does the US have?

I think I may be able to take this one as it only requires an American who is relatively knowledgeable of our laws.

Police are only allowed to act if the protest is becoming an angry mob(aka violent). They may increase presence if the crowd is likely to grow violent. What happened in the 60s I have no experience of ,but that was a time of tension, confusion, suspicion, and a whole mess of things that made the government and law enforcement offices take everything with the slightest bit of caution.

I'm fairly certain we have no sedition laws as you can tell by the number of jokes, insults, and empty threats centered at our less-than perfect government(I don't like how it's acting and you may not either but you have to admit we have done better at one point in time or another).

Here's one for ya...

If I were to buy the skimpiest thong I can find, one which fully hides my manbits and the crack of my ass (hence why not a g-string), but leaves little else to the imagination... Now If I were to buy such a thing, and dance in front of my window wearing nothing but this thong (curtains being open), can I get in trouble for it?

I know it sounds like a joke/BS question, but here's the thing... I have these neighbors, and they're really REALLY annoying, and nothing I've tried has convinced them to behave or move out. Now I'm no slim-skinny dude, in the +/-300lbs range with a spare tire and a hairy chest. If there's nothing illegal, nothing that I can get a fine over, about me dancing in a banana hammock in my own house, it might just be something to scare them off.

I know I sure as hell wouldn't want to live next door to an obese guy who dances near-nude in his living room with the windows unobscured.

Ahh an officer of correctional duty...I wanted to become one...but I doubt they'd employ me due to my "Fck with me and a'll cave your skull in and say your threw yourself off the gantry" tendancies...

But my question! Umm....Tbh I don't think I had one...

You ever played a GTA game and slaughtered the police and other law enforcers for fun?

How often do would you do the good cop bad cop thing(i know it happens i was there for one), and would you use it on a specific group more then others(such as kids lighting fireworks, and there is a bylaw that restricts them)?

ace_of_something:

orifice:
How many people have you fitted up for crimes they didn't commit! (no really!)

Zero, I swear on my family's honor.

Then your a better cop than we have here in britain! British cops are utter bastards for fitting people up. I once witnessed 6 cops turn up at a house with a bag of heroin, which they inserted into the drain pipe of the house. The n they knocked the door, served a search warrant, then pulled the heroin back out of the pipe and said look what we've found, oh dear! (for the record the guy was a known heroin dealer, but the bust was still bad)

sneakypenguin:

Anyways another question. Can a cop write a ticket in another county? reason I ask was I was doing way over the limit, got pulled over but i pulled over right past the next county line, and didn't get a ticket or even a warning.

Random question, ever bust someone for making out/having sex in public/car? The police always spotlight people at our parks or in cars I was just curious if there was a law against it.

1. Depends on your state laws. Juristiction is a a sticky wicket. Here the county line is right at the edge of the city and the next county is another city. People would often speed up to get into the next county thinking once they're in that county you can't give them a ticket. But here we have a 5 mile buffer, so they have to get a pretty good distance into the next county to avoid said ticket. And if i turn on my lights and they do that, than I just write the plate number, and now they have a 'fleeing to avoid arrest' which is much much worse than a small speeding ticket.

2. I personally never found that as a cop, because this town has a very low prostitution rate. However teens do it. Actually truth be told, when I was in high school me and my friend would drive to the make out places, shine a giant light in cars to piss said people off and get them to chase us. Anyway, there is a law against it it's called Lewd conduct a similar law called indecent exposure carries a lesser charge. And the band 311 gets there name from this cities code for 'public' nudity.

Clairaudient:
What was the most ridiculous arrest you've ever made? (exg: Arresting a man wearing nothing but a paper pirate hat and a hook on his hand)

You ever see reno 911? We got a call for a potential burglary in progress (this was about 7 in the afternoon in summer). The description was 'black male about 35' in a neighborhood of about 90% black population... yeah that helps. So I with a partner on foot patrol, show up a little later than a guy in a cruiser (Foot Pat for the win!) We find no trace of the house being broken into. The occupant of the house says "I didn't make any call like that. Why are you here bothering me? You are always here bothering me you fucking pigs!" We say alright, fine. Leave about 5 minutes later another call for the same thing about 2 blocks away, same description. Except this time we have "he's wearing a brown cowboy hat" That narrows it down. And since I was only two blocks away me and my partner bolt. When we show up There is the black male mid 30's with a wearing brown cowboy hat... a black tshirt, black chuck tailors... and no pants of any sort.
guess what he was doing? He was looking into windows and jerking off into a potted plant he was carrying. So we chased him around the block about 3 times, cuz both me and my partner were running slow cuz we were hoping the other one would tackle him. Eventually I just decided I'll have to do it. Turns out the guy was high out of his mind on meth.

That has to be in the top 3. We chased him around in a circle around the block for like 3 or 4 laps.

I will say this, compared to the shit i see in the jail, the shit on the street was nothing.

Fruhstuck:
If you were in England and saw someone breaking one of your home laws would you intervene?
Also:
What do you, personally, class as excessive force?
With regards to self-defence
i.e. guy A gets attacked by guy B, how much harm does guy A have to cause before you think he's gone too far?

EDIT: will you bust anyone on this thread who admits to crimes? lol

I believe in a being a good person and helping my fellow man. So if it was like assault, murder, a purse snatching, you bet your ass. But I think most people should act like that.
Excessive force is hitting someone who is already in restraints. Excessive force is using your weapons when someone is unarmed and screaming at you. There is actually a chart with different levels of force (passive resistance, active resistance, active aggression, etc.) you are allowed to go 'one level' above what the other person is using.

Edit: I don't carry the shield anymore but if I did, unless someone admits to murder or something probably not. :-)

TriggerAF:
Is there a reward for turning in illegal immigrants in your state, like there is here in Arizona? I always figured it was just border states.

Is there a reward for turning in illegal immigrants in your state, like there is here in Arizona? I always figured it was just border states.

Nebraska has an ICE (immigrations customs enforcement, INS no longer exists) headquarters in this city, so we almost never have to deal with that. If you arrest someone who turns out to be an illegal we just call ice and let them know, and they sit in jail.
I have serious issues with immigration laws, especially since I started working at jail.

superbleeder12:
I've heard that when a person is pulled over for minor traffic infractions, the officer is really only there to give a warning, but depending on how the person being pulled over acts, they will get a ticket.
Is that true?

Or when an officer pulls someone over, they are going to give a person a ticket. Also, I doubt it's true, but do officers have some sort of 'quota' that they have to meet?

I've heard that when a person is pulled over for minor traffic infractions, the officer is really only there to give a warning, but depending on how the person being pulled over acts, they will get a ticket.
Is that true?
Or when an officer pulls someone over, they are going to give a person a ticket. Also, I doubt it's true, but do officers have some sort of 'quota' that they have to meet?
No and No. It's an officer's discretion but most of your traffic stops are documented and you have to say " I gave a warning" if you did. If you're doing that all the time expect internal affairs to ask why. That quota thing is an urban myth. People think when they see a lot of cops out that the 'quota' most be nearing it's turn in date, the truth is speeding/drunkenness has become a problem in a certain area so they put more patrol cars in that area to curb the problem.

Labyrinth:
This is from the perspective of a political activist who's had some.. interesting times with police at protests, albeit in Australia.

What is the US police force's policy when it comes to non-violent anti-governmental protests?

I hear a lot in left-wing reports of trigger-happy cops with their wonderfully "Non-lethal" tazers giving protesters hell even if the protest itself is in no way condoning violent or becoming violent. In addition I'm far from a fan of US policy in general, and would probably wind up at a protest if I ever went to the country.

Oh, and another question. What sort of Sedition laws does the US have?

The right to assemble is inalienable (we've come a long way from the 1960's) but officer presence is required at most political rallies. Not because of the people holding said rally but usually everyone else The officers aren't there to start shit, they're there IN CASE something happens to be able to stop it before it starts. And usually in most states, you need a permit to protest. However, your protest cannot obstruct other people's rights

Peaceful protest is not only allowed but encouraged. This country was founded on rebellion.

fluffylandmine:
1&2. Has anyone ever been wise crackig when you pulled them over? If so what's the funniest thing they've said?(I like to do that kind off thing to anyone of higher authority who catches me doing something(only extremely minor things))

3. If I carry around a moderate to large blunt object that is somewhat threatening looking(a wooden dowel to a sledge hammer, ), but have no intents or purposes to use as a weapon only in the case of self defense. Is it illegal or just very suspicious and slightly unethical?

Only once to twice usually it was more disrespectful "sup brah?" kind of stuff. You have to understand I'm a very wide-shouldered stocky person who is 6'6" And have kind of a serious looking face. Most people are scared of me.
Context is once again important here if you're in a hardware store or at a construction site. Actually in my teen years me and my friends would dumpster dive and my friend who worked at a grocery store would use his discount to buy cheap generic soda. We would go to a park, and smash it all. Once or twice a cop pulled up and asked what we were doing or if there was booze in the cans. We showed them our broom and ensured we'd clean up when we were finished and they were on their way. After watching for a minute or two. But the 'appearance' of crime is a crime too. So think of that.

Khell_Sennet:
Here's one for ya...

If I were to buy the skimpiest thong I can find, one which fully hides my manbits and the crack of my ass (hence why not a g-string), but leaves little else to the imagination... Now If I were to buy such a thing, and dance in front of my window wearing nothing but this thong (curtains being open), can I get in trouble for it?

I know it sounds like a joke/BS question, but here's the thing... I have these neighbors, and they're really REALLY annoying, and nothing I've tried has convinced them to behave or move out. Now I'm no slim-skinny dude, in the +/-300lbs range with a spare tire and a hairy chest. If there's nothing illegal, nothing that I can get a fine over, about me dancing in a banana hammock in my own house, it might just be something to scare them off.

I know I sure as hell wouldn't want to live next door to an obese guy who dances near-nude in his living room with the windows unobscured.

They can't do much about it unless they have kids than you might get in trouble

Dommyboy:
You ever played a GTA game and slaughtered the police and other law enforcers for fun?

Totally! Saints Row is better though. I actually made my gang look kind of like cops. It creates a very odd game.

Bootss1:
How often do would you do the good cop bad cop thing(i know it happens i was there for one), and would you use it on a specific group more then others(such as kids lighting fireworks, and there is a bylaw that restricts them)?

I was not a detective, sad to say, so I didn't do much with interviewing. Though in vice I did from time to time. That routine is sometimes used but it only works on
a) the very very young
or
B) the very very stupid

If some kids were lighting fireworks that shouldn't have them, I personally would take said fireworks bring them to evidence for disposal and than bring the kids home to their parents and let them know what's gong on. (I assume you mean like 12-14 year olds.)

orifice:

Then your a better cop than we have here in britain! British cops are utter bastards for fitting people up. I once witnessed 6 cops turn up at a house with a bag of heroin, which they inserted into the drain pipe of the house. The n they knocked the door, served a search warrant, then pulled the heroin back out of the pipe and said look what we've found, oh dear! (for the record the guy was a known heroin dealer, but the bust was still bad)

I don't think you realize just how angry I got reading that. If you can't catch someone by the book than you aren't doing a good job. That's crooked and if they are doing stuff like that they don't deserve their job in any way.
So mad.

Have you ever had to clear a protest? and if so, is it true that the people really spit on the cops and such?

ace_of_something:

Fruhstuck:
If you were in England and saw someone breaking one of your home laws would you intervene?
Also:
What do you, personally, class as excessive force?
With regards to self-defence
i.e. guy A gets attacked by guy B, how much harm does guy A have to cause before you think he's gone too far?

EDIT: will you bust anyone on this thread who admits to crimes? lol

I believe in a being a good person and helping my fellow man. So if it was like assault, murder, a purse snatching, you bet your ass. But I think most people should act like that.
Excessive force is hitting someone who is already in restraints. Excessive force is using your weapons when someone is unarmed and screaming at you. There is actually a chart with different levels of force (passive resistance, active resistance, active aggression, etc.) you are allowed to go ‘one level’ above what the other person is using.

Edit: I don’t carry the shield anymore but if I did, unless someone admits to murder or something probably not. :-)

Awesome, a guy punched me in the face a while ago and i broke his arm, both wrists and ankle in the ensueing fight
If that'd happened under your jurisdiction what would be the repurcussions for me?

EDIT: what's the best thing about being on the force?

hey, if my brother got busted for dealing, and I knew about it but wasnt involved in any way, could I get prosecuted?

also, I have to appear in court soon as a witness to a stabbing, but I don't really want to go(because I think I make a poor witness), how can I get out of it?

Did you enjoy your time as a police officer and would you encorage others to become one?

Another one I came up with
Have you ever illegally downloaded anything?

why do you hate protesters? why are you against the freedom of speech?

why don't you guys take action about the corruption in the force

ace_of_something:

Clairaudient:
What was the most ridiculous arrest you've ever made? (exg: Arresting a man wearing nothing but a paper pirate hat and a hook on his hand)

You ever see reno 911? We got a call for a potential burglary in progress (this was about 7 in the afternoon in summer). The description was 'black male about 35' in a neighborhood of about 90% black population... yeah that helps. So I with a partner on foot patrol, show up a little later than a guy in a cruiser (Foot Pat for the win!) We find no trace of the house being broken into. The occupant of the house says "I didn't make any call like that. Why are you here bothering me? You are always here bothering me you fucking pigs!" We say alright, fine. Leave about 5 minutes later another call for the same thing about 2 blocks away, same description. Except this time we have "he's wearing a brown cowboy hat" That narrows it down. And since I was only two blocks away me and my partner bolt. When we show up There is the black male mid 30's with a wearing brown cowboy hat... a black tshirt, black chuck tailors... and no pants of any sort.
guess what he was doing? He was looking into windows and jerking off into a potted plant he was carrying. So we chased him around the block about 3 times, cuz both me and my partner were running slow cuz we were hoping the other one would tackle him. Eventually I just decided I'll have to do it. Turns out the guy was high out of his mind on meth.

That has to be in the top 3. We chased him around in a circle around the block for like 3 or 4 laps.

I will say this, compared to the shit i see in the jail, the shit on the street was nothing.

What other crazy shit have you seen? :O

what was your favorite aspect of being on the force, and what was your best moment as an officer? (sorry if you have already answered something like this)
What was your most frightening moment on the force?

ace_of_something:

I was not a detective, sad to say, so I didn't do much with interviewing. That routine is sometimes used but it only works on
a) the very very young
or
B) the very very stupid

If some kids were lighting fireworks that shouldn't have them, I personally would take said fireworks bring them to evidence for disposal and than bring the kids home to their parents and let them know what's gong on. (I assume you mean like 12-14 year olds.)

no mean if you and another cop catch kids doing something wrong, will you do good cop bad cop? that's what happened to me. my freind was carrying fireworks so one took them and let him off with a warning because we were not near people went he lit them off. the other cop was trying to 'convince' his co-worker that they should total ticket my freind

SnowCold:
Have you ever had to clear a protest? and if so, is it true that the people really spit on the cops and such?

The KKK did a rally near our Mexican consulate. And than there was a counter rally. And a third rally to say how they don't like illegal immigrants or the KKK. (That last one was dumb cuz the consulate helps LEGAL immigrants or people become legal) We were all sure that shit would get out of control but it was pretty tame because we made them all stay 'outside of throwing distance' away from each other. Edit: Yes some of them spit but that individual gets pulled out handcuffed and sent away for assault before they can make things worse.

Fruhstuck:

Awesome, a guy punched me in the face a while ago and i broke his arm, both wrists and ankle in the ensueing fight
If that'd happened under your jurisdiction what would be the repurcussions for me?
EDIT: what's the best thing about being on the force?

Depending on WHY he punched you could be nothing or it could be aggro assault (which means you hit someone but you had a good reason).

Smiles:
hey, if my brother got busted for dealing, and I knew about it but wasnt involved in any way, could I get prosecuted?
also, I have to appear in court soon as a witness to a stabbing, but I don't really want to go(because I think I make a poor witness), how can I get out of it?

1. No.
2. You don't have to UNLESS you've been Subpoena'd, which if you haven't and you waffle on them they might do. However I would urge you to do your civic duty and testify people who stab people shouldn't be given any chance to roam the streets.

klc0100:
Did you enjoy your time as a police officer and would you encorage others to become one?

Another one I came up with
Have you ever illegally downloaded anything?

Yes very much so. But it's not a fairy tale, most people are not going to respect the authority of your office in any way, most people are not happy to see you, and most people assume a lot about you; you're a Fascist. You hate (insert whatever here). You're racist against (whatever you want). But it's rewarding you help everyone around you as best you can and can take pride in that. When someone is happy to see you and you really help them out it's awesome.

Illegally? No actually. I downloaded a ton until it became a illegal though. I didn't stop out of my boyscoutism though it was because my computer was too old and crappy to run the software at the time. And since than i've felt it's too much effort.

Pepperlander:
why do you hate protesters? why are you against the freedom of speech?

why don't you guys take action about the corruption in the force

I feel your trying to goad me into a stupid internet argument. You have disrespected me and the other people in this thread so, I will not give you a respectful answer.

Drake the Dragonheart:
What was your most frightening moment on the force?

Thankfully I personally never had to deal with a standoff... But undercover work is frightening in general. I was in the gang unit briefly. My first arrest Being in a room with a wire (which by the way now a-days is about the size of an eraser head) with 5 guys who are all carrying guns... who search me before entering and took away my only weapon.
That made me sweat really bad. They questioned why I was sweating and I than played it off as the clanks (withdraws). I bought the stuff made it out. The other guys ran inside and arrested all of them. (and FYI The amount I purchased was $8,000) worth and they had a lot more. All of them also had illegal weapons and other outstanding warrants. Still... scary as hell.

SecretTacoNinja:

What other crazy shit have you seen? :O

That could go on and on. If you've ever had someone turn to you and say "It's my fist and it's my ass, and I can do what I want with it." Or seen a grown man cry and hide in terror from the idea of using a shower, if you've noticed that many homeless guys pee next to the toilet but not in it, if you've see to men fight nearly to the death over a magazine, or if you've seen two trannies fight in a lobby... if you've seen all that... You have a small idea what it's like to work in corrections.

I dont know if I have been Subpoena'd, all I know is my mom says I have to go... they will give me the statement I made on the night it happened, which is going to be embaressing because I was so freaked out I couldn't think straight...

could I say that I fear for my safety, because the stabbers were gang affiliated or something? is there anything you can tell me that might get me out of it?
(not that I don't want to help, but they have security cameras from five angls at least, and I think I would be more of a hinderance than a help...)

Smiles:
is there anything you can tell me that might get me out of it?

Bring this little guy along and wear a matching outfit. I don't think they'll want to account your statement then. =P

Smiles:
I dont know if I have been Subpoena'd, all I know is my mom says I have to go... they will give me the statement I made on the night it happened, which is going to be embaressing because I was so freaked out I couldn't think straight...

could I say that I fear for my safety, because the stabbers were gang affiliated or something? is there anything you can tell me that might get me out of it?
(not that I don't want to help, but they have security cameras from five angls at least, and I think I would be more of a hinderance than a help...)

Attorneys are trained to realize when someone is a poor witness, you need to stay as part of their case. Because, the more evidence they have compiled the less likely it will go to trial. Well over half (i wanna say something like 3/4) of cases don't go to trial. One major reason is if the prosecution has a very strong case the defense will plead out to get a lighter sentence, knowing they can't win. You might be that one extra piece that creates a slam dunk and if you back out the case won't be strong enough to prevent a trial and than this guy will walk. If you do what you need to you might be scared for a while but eventually you will know that you did the right thing.
You will not look foolish; statements are read in a very dry manner not re-enacted like a play. They'll say "And on the night of (date) you said "I saw (suspect's name) stab (victim), is that true?" and you'll say yes.
They won't say "So you were screaming like a mad woman when officer smith asked you what you saw." Actually, if they even do bring that up it will be to strengthen the case people don't get hysterical when they saw nothing.
The prosecution will make sure you're very well prepared and understand what's going to happen. It's not at all like TV.
Court can be very very scary but it needs to be done.
If you truly are frightened of that let them (the attorneys) know they will do what needs to be done.
I'm very sorry I didn't really answer your question, but I hope I can help you realize how important you are to helping your community.

okay thank you. Reading your thread here, and some of the things you've dealt with, makes me feel a little more confidant about it. I wanted to be a police officer once, I dont think I have what it takes though :)...

What sort of behaviour do you expect or generally receive from people on drugs? Ice's one that interests me in particular, because I had a fun experience with a friend's friend on a bad trip.

Labyrinth:
What sort of behaviour do you expect or generally receive from people on drugs? Ice's one that interests me in particular, because I had a fun experience with a friend's friend on a bad trip.

All drugs you have to watch people carefully cuz you never know what you might suddenly need an ambulance. I'm not sure what ice means to you; some regions it means cocaine some it means meth.

Pot: You can expect them to be pretty spacey and usually fairly easy to deal with.

Ecstasy: A strong desire to keep moving and touching everything possible

Cocaine: Usually very very hyper and kind of impervious to pain.

Crack: Could be unable to stay awake or they could be doing back flips.

LSD: Expect to be talking to someone who is not there. And may or may not think that you are in fact; a giant talking blue iguana.

Meth: Meth is the worst; these people are usually impervious to pain, very aggressive, and insist on being nude.

Alcohol: Can be very mellow or very aggressive. Expect vomit though. Totally brings out a person's id.

That being said all drugs you need to be careful cuz you can't really expect anything except that it's gonna get real stupid real quick.

I once had a woman high on ecstasy grab my crotch and tell me how she loves a guy in uniform. She quickly got handcuffed and up against the cruiser. I was than verbally abused and told I might be a big man but not in the pants, and that I could never handle all that woman. (All 90 pounds of her!)
She got an assault an officer charge. (Ps. Don't even ask cuz I'll tell you now: No, never, no way in hell.)