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What should be done about terrorism
Pacify them
12.2% (19)
12.2% (19)
ignore them
13.5% (21)
13.5% (21)
minor military ops
14.1% (22)
14.1% (22)
major military ops
5.1% (8)
5.1% (8)
sactions against countries
2.6% (4)
2.6% (4)
combo of options
24.4% (38)
24.4% (38)
nuke them till they glow and shoot them in the dark
28.2% (44)
28.2% (44)
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Gone Gonzo
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Edit:New question. What should be done about Iran? I think most of us agree that Iran having nuclear capabilities is a bad thing, and with iran currently enriching uranium and expanding that process what should be done? International efforts have done nil so would Israel be right in striking the facility? After all the iranian prez(equivalent) is a nut job that has called for the destruction of Israel.

In light of the recent terror attack in India, what is the proper response to said attack? Would you undertake military ops, is sanctions enough? Do you ignore it and hope it doesn't happen again?

If your country got shot up tomorrow by terrorist what would you want done?

Personally I think massive airstrikes to wipe any harboring countries military out and sanctions.
None of this give them democracy crap. Just make it too painful for future attacks to be put in action.

The whole well the world "condemns" terrorism ideal is not working, what actions can prevent/slow attacks?

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Airstrikes do nothing except antagonize the local populations and create more willing terrorists, so unless you are advocating genocide against areas where terrorists are then it isn't going to work.

To deal with terrorism you have to actually try to deal with it, as happened after WW2 with Japan and Germany. When the allied nations went in, and helped them rebuild. They didn't sanction them into starvation, then bomb them into the stone age, then sell off the rights to rebuild to the highest bidder so that the people living there didn't even have food or fresh water two years after "mission accomplished".

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For a start you just can't just bomb a country to the ground, that's how to breed terrorism. The best solution is something that doesn't give a terrorist organisation publicity or strengthens their cause in anyway. Therefore my solution would to do small scale operations with as few civilian causalities as possible and sanctions for countries that harbour terrorist. This may seem weak, but this way they have little idealogical reasoning for attacks and won't gain wider support.

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the best thing to do in my opinion (i have to put that) about terror, is for one don't look em in the face and say bring it on, cuz they just might. And second keep a close eye on them and do something about it in small strides not in a big horde.

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Send in Gaz, Captain Price, and the rest of the squad. Terrorism will be over like that *snaps fingers*.

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Mourn the losses quietly, and hold a gun to the world media, telling it that all it can do is to give factual history lessons about the locations of the terrorism.

Win-win situation. (Except for the deaths and destruction. That's always FAIL.)

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The best solution to terrorism is producing electric cars and letting those motherfuckers starve.

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Kukul:
The best solution to terrorism is producing electric cars and letting those motherfuckers starve.

Not all Terrorists are in the Middle East and Southern Asia...

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Kukul:
The best solution to terrorism is producing electric cars and letting those motherfuckers starve.

Then one could argue that with their reduced economy they would be more likely to resort to violence (desperate times bring about desperate measures) IE the evil western countries destroyed our econ.

Just playing devils advocate.

Erana:

Not all Terrorists are in the Middle East and Southern Asia...

Yeah all them damn canadian with their toxic maple syrup bombs.. or worse Icelanders that attack school buses with icepicks. Sorry just being facetious

Your post is true but majority is based in the middle east(including africa) and asia.

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Kukul:
The best solution to terrorism is producing electric cars and letting those motherfuckers starve.

Yep. This solution is obviously fool-proof as the long suffering and starving people of Afghanistan have obviously never engaged on any terrorist acts have they?

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cuddly_tomato:
To deal with terrorism you have to actually try to deal with it, as happened after WW2 with Japan and Germany. When the allied nations went in, and helped them rebuild. They didn't sanction them into starvation, then bomb them into the stone age

You're right. They firebombed (and nuked) them into the stone age and THEN came and helped them rebuild.

I say shut the fucking media up first of all, then do covert military ops to kill anyone involved after bringing them in and interrogating.

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Trace their families, erase them.
Trace their backers, erase them too.

For those of us not called Joseph (or Ioseph if you want to be picky). The best action is to just ignore them as far as possible. Occasionally things happen that can't be ignored, but almost always it's innocent people that suffer most from the retaliations.

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Outlaw islam and deny access to your country by islamic citizens.. simple and effective :)

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cuddly_tomato:
To deal with terrorism you have to actually try to deal with it, as happened after WW2 with Japan and Germany. When the allied nations went in, and helped them rebuild. They didn't sanction them into starvation, then bomb them into the stone age

You're right. They firebombed (and nuked) them into the stone age and THEN came and helped them rebuild.

I say shut the fucking media up first of all, then do covert military ops to kill anyone involved after bringing them in and interrogating.

*sighs*

We tried that. For years Britain fought the IRA. Used SAS to assassinate and used the military to try to control the population. All it did was create more terrorism and more lives were lost.

Now the IRA is disarming. You know why? Because we all started talking. When people are talking they are not killing. That is a start. And when talking people will understand the needs of each other better, and maybe even find that the other guy really isn't so different.

Ohh and a free media is an essential function of democracy. If you advocate shutting them up you are advocating installing a military junta in power and doing away with freedom.

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The best thing you can do is... well, there's no best response folks. Let's face it, terrorism is a horrible thing, and anything you do will help the terrorists. If you turn the other cheek, they'll blow that one up too. If you fight back, they'll swell in number from the civilians you harm. The fact is, there's no way other than eradication that wil STOP terrorism, but that would make you no better than what they are attacking you for.

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cuddly_tomato:

Kukul:
The best solution to terrorism is producing electric cars and letting those motherfuckers starve.

Yep. This solution is obviously fool-proof as the long suffering and starving people of Afghanistan have obviously never engaged on any terrorist acts have they?

Well its obviously not fool-proof since you didn't get it.
I meant the Saudi Arabians who fund the terrorists, not the starving Afghani
Poor people don't blow themselves up if nobody asks them to.

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To quote the great HaliWali, "The answer is Rockets, the answer is ALWAYS Rockets..."

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Dele:
Outlaw islam and deny access to your country by islamic citizens.. simple and effective :)

Ha your going to get banned for this I forsee. Though I can sorta agree with you, not being racist or whatever but most acts are done by Islamic terror(granted there are smaller organizations out there ELF being one of them :)

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Well I don't think Nukes are the answer, there is far too much bad that comes from the use of nukes especially when you consider the country you are nuking could have them as well. Generally you should try to negotiate and war should be a last resort but stay away from nukes. In this case a Majority of people in India are not terrorists anyway.

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Dele:
Outlaw islam and deny access to your country by islamic citizens.. simple and effective :)

Not all terrorism is linked to Islam and not all Islam is linked to terrorism. Is that too hard to remember?

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Kukul:

cuddly_tomato:

Kukul:
The best solution to terrorism is producing electric cars and letting those motherfuckers starve.

Yep. This solution is obviously fool-proof as the long suffering and starving people of Afghanistan have obviously never engaged on any terrorist acts have they?

Well its obviously not fool-proof since you didn't get it.
I meant the Saudi Arabians who fund the terrorists, not the starving Afghani
Poor people don't blow themselves up if nobody asks them to.

I do get it. The thing is this - the 9/11 attacks were done on the budget of a few plane tickets and some knives. That's all. A few hundred dollars, at most, bypassed the most expensive and technologically advanced security net in the history of the world. You know how much anthrax costs to produce? Go to a place where they shear the wool of sheep and you will find tonnes of it. Bombs? There is enough material in the average kitchen to make a decently lethal pipebomb if you know what you are doing. Terrorism costs virtually nothing.

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Dele:
Outlaw islam and deny access to your country by islamic citizens.. simple and effective :)

Until the terrorists are Irish, Indian, Spanish, American, Lebanese, Somalian...

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Send in an army of bears.
No one messes with bears.

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Well, just because the option is there: Nuke em all (From orbit preferably).

To be serious: A combination of options. Most important of all is to eliminate the reasons for terrorism (poverty, oppression, etc.). If that is too late then talk, make deals if necessary. If that is not an option (as can be the case with a few groups) find them and eliminate them. Not by bombing them but by pin point operations. Locate them via spyplanes and drones and assasinate them with special forces or even armed drones.

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Xaryn Mar:
Well, just because the option is there: Nuke em all (From orbit preferably).

To be serious: A combination of options. Most important of all is to eliminate the reasons for terrorism (poverty, oppression, etc.). If that is too late then talk, make deals if necessary. If that is not an option (as can be the case with a few groups) find them and eliminate them. Not by bombing them but by pin point operations. Locate them via spyplanes and drones and assasinate them with special forces or even armed drones.

Alternative thinking here.
What if terrorism isn't bred from poverty oppression etc. but rather a means with which to control people. IE shore up support, successful attack on a church or w/e gets you more followers. A means with which to keep people following you rather than take down the evil west as most would assume.

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sneakypenguin:

Kukul:
The best solution to terrorism is producing electric cars and letting those motherfuckers starve.

Then one could argue that with their reduced economy they would be more likely to resort to violence (desperate times bring about desperate measures) IE the evil western countries destroyed our econ.

I checked your profile and apparently your American. So s\are you calling yourself evil.

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I see a few options, however the most effective one requires discarding morality - if you genocide them, no discrimination, just kill everyone in the country, that would stop it (the western world is strong enough to do that to the rest of it - but they never would)

The better solutions for real life are either: find them a common enemy, with which they are even more diametrically opposed than they are with you (think cold war europe, even though they had just been conquered, the Germans were quite happy to have the western powers in, because it kept the eastern one out).
OR
let them have their country back

it really is that simple - even if it leads to another dictatorial government, even if this government is the most dangerous, murderous, unstable government ever, just let them be and get your dick out of their life, a revolution HAS to come from within to throw off a government permeanently (and if they genuineally get nukes, well then we have another MAD situation - but with the economic superiority massively in our favor).

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cuddly_tomato:

Kukul:

cuddly_tomato:

Kukul:
The best solution to terrorism is producing electric cars and letting those motherfuckers starve.

Yep. This solution is obviously fool-proof as the long suffering and starving people of Afghanistan have obviously never engaged on any terrorist acts have they?

Well its obviously not fool-proof since you didn't get it.
I meant the Saudi Arabians who fund the terrorists, not the starving Afghani
Poor people don't blow themselves up if nobody asks them to.

I do get it. The thing is this - the 9/11 attacks were done on the budget of a few plane tickets and some knives. That's all. A few hundred dollars, at most, bypassed the most expensive and technologically advanced security net in the history of the world. You know how much anthrax costs to produce? Go to a place where they shear the wool of sheep and you will find tonnes of it. Bombs? There is enough material in the average kitchen to make a decently lethal pipebomb if you know what you are doing. Terrorism costs virtually nothing.

You are talking out of your ignorant ass my friend.
9/11 attacks costed more money than you and me will ever earn.
Years of preparations, teaching these people to fly, funding their travels and upkeep, maintaing an army of people who will ensure your seciurity and indoctrinating them properly, paying bribes to maintain secrecy etc.
That costs a lot of money.
Thats why you don't see every group of lunatics killing thousand of people. Just the ones with money.

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Phantom2595:

sneakypenguin:

Kukul:
The best solution to terrorism is producing electric cars and letting those motherfuckers starve.

Then one could argue that with their reduced economy they would be more likely to resort to violence (desperate times bring about desperate measures) IE the evil western countries destroyed our econ.

I checked your profile and apparently your American. So s\are you calling yourself evil.

No I was speaking from a different perspective(terrorist/terrorist country).
How can an american be evil, we have manifest destiny or w/e /attempt at humor

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Kukul:

cuddly_tomato:

Kukul:

cuddly_tomato:

Kukul:
The best solution to terrorism is producing electric cars and letting those motherfuckers starve.

Yep. This solution is obviously fool-proof as the long suffering and starving people of Afghanistan have obviously never engaged on any terrorist acts have they?

Well its obviously not fool-proof since you didn't get it.
I meant the Saudi Arabians who fund the terrorists, not the starving Afghani
Poor people don't blow themselves up if nobody asks them to.

I do get it. The thing is this - the 9/11 attacks were done on the budget of a few plane tickets and some knives. That's all. A few hundred dollars, at most, bypassed the most expensive and technologically advanced security net in the history of the world. You know how much anthrax costs to produce? Go to a place where they shear the wool of sheep and you will find tonnes of it. Bombs? There is enough material in the average kitchen to make a decently lethal pipebomb if you know what you are doing. Terrorism costs virtually nothing.

You are talking out of your ignorant ass my friend.
9/11 attacks costed more money than you and me will ever earn.
Years of preparations, teaching these people to fly, funding their travels and upkeep, maintaing an army of people who will ensure your seciurity and indoctrinating them properly, paying bribes to maintain secrecy etc.
That costs a lot of money.
Thats why you don't see every group of lunatics killing thousand of people. Just the ones with money.

Hmmm... And how much money did Timothy McVeigh have? More than you or I will ever earn? I suppose making electric cars would have stopped him too huh? And the 7/11 terrorists who bombed London (who were all English). And also the Basque terrorists, electric cars will stop them too! My god it is so simple!

Thank you for enlightening me to my ignorant ways.

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View it as a criminal act and not a military one and use police protocol.

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I've always said, the best, and often only, response to terroism

Business. As. Usual

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Some combination of options would probably work best... I'm personally not the biggest fan of major military ops, though minor military operations haven't worked too well in the past... granted, I'm not sure if there will ever be a way to completely irradicate terrorism forever... But I'm sure it has something to do with having adequate defenses against their attacks and not having the media cause so much of a ruckus whenever an attack or attempted attack occurs. Because in the end, that's one of the main purposes of terrorism: causing fear. Stop the media from spreading fear and paranoia and in my opinion, we'll be a lot better off. Educate the public rather than telling them what to be afraid of, and fear will slowly vanish.

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The whole point of terrorism is just that: inspiring terror.

I say: don't grant them the satisfaction. These people can't be reasoned with, so don't try. And current military strategies are underdeveloped for these situations - I mean, an invasion? Seriously? That hasn't worked since WWII. And it hasn't worked so far.

The best response is to grieve, and treat it as a regrettable incident. Because that's what terrorism is - an act of senseless violence with no serious or rational motive. Or to put it in other terms: a dick move by a bunch of nutters. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Larenxis:
View it as a criminal act and not a military one and use police protocol.

This.
Serves me right for not reading the entire thread before responding.

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cuddly_tomato:

Kukul:

cuddly_tomato:

Kukul:

cuddly_tomato:

Kukul:
The best solution to terrorism is producing electric cars and letting those motherfuckers starve.

Yep. This solution is obviously fool-proof as the long suffering and starving people of Afghanistan have obviously never engaged on any terrorist acts have they?

Well its obviously not fool-proof since you didn't get it.
I meant the Saudi Arabians who fund the terrorists, not the starving Afghani
Poor people don't blow themselves up if nobody asks them to.

I do get it. The thing is this - the 9/11 attacks were done on the budget of a few plane tickets and some knives. That's all. A few hundred dollars, at most, bypassed the most expensive and technologically advanced security net in the history of the world. You know how much anthrax costs to produce? Go to a place where they shear the wool of sheep and you will find tonnes of it. Bombs? There is enough material in the average kitchen to make a decently lethal pipebomb if you know what you are doing. Terrorism costs virtually nothing.

You are talking out of your ignorant ass my friend.
9/11 attacks costed more money than you and me will ever earn.
Years of preparations, teaching these people to fly, funding their travels and upkeep, maintaing an army of people who will ensure your seciurity and indoctrinating them properly, paying bribes to maintain secrecy etc.
That costs a lot of money.
Thats why you don't see every group of lunatics killing thousand of people. Just the ones with money.

Hmmm... And how much money did Timothy McVeigh have? More than you or I will ever earn? I suppose making electric cars would have stopped him too huh? And the 7/11 terrorists who bombed London (who were all English). And also the Basque terrorists, electric cars will stop them too! My god it is so simple!

Thank you for enlightening me to my ignorant ways.

I don't know who Timothy McVeigh is, but note that both the Basque terrorists and IRA were not international terrorist groups yet they still had money.
International terrorism requires even more money.
Anyway the soultion clearly isn't that simple, but I believe stripping arabs of their oil-money is a good way to start.

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