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Pulitzer Laureate
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jim_doki:

perfectimo:

Can we post pictures of ourselves with our equipment or just our equipment in spoilers? I want to see this AC30.

EDIT: Can we say our band names too? I'm asking because I don't want to derail topic.

just for you perfectimo!


as for band names, at the moment im playing under Jim Doki and The Violence, but im working with someone, we're going by The Child Brides

Nice want to see my amp and guitar? Are you a Beatles fan?

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1803
Joined: 8 Nov 2008

I play bass and love playing pretty much anything but my friend (a really good musician) made this awesome reggae song from the strummy bit on feel good inc (gorillaz) and the bass is so fun on it! (also blues is really great)

Gone Gonzo
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I would love to see your stuff!

i have a respect for the beatles. i think they did a lot for modern rock and pop. i dont see them as the be all and end all. that title belongs to Queen for me (hence the AC30). I personally play alternative stuff. big into sounding like sonic youth and nirvana, pop is also an important factor for me

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jim_doki:
I would love to see your stuff!

i have a respect for the beatles. i think they did a lot for modern rock and pop. i dont see them as the be all and end all. that title belongs to Queen for me (hence the AC30). I personally play alternative stuff. big into sounding like sonic youth and nirvana, pop is also an important factor for me

That's why I thought you had the AC30 and Dot. I guess you won't understand why me and my friends band is called "The Shoes". Give me a sec and I'll take some photos.

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jim_doki:
I would love to see your stuff!

Note: that the stain on the Strats scratchplate is blood, I still haven't washed it off. Also that is why the middle pick-up has dropped.

Gone Gonzo
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perfectimo:

jim_doki:
I would love to see your stuff!

*totally awesome snip*

you are officially going on my freindd list. anyone who swears by strats, vox, and semi acoustics gets my vote.

is that a AC30CCH or an older model? Stacks are great for sound, but i honestly could never be bothered lugging one of those around. Why are you called "The Shoes"? do you have anything i could listen to?

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2583
Joined: 27 Sep 2008

I'm liking my guitar right now, although I'm pretty lame wit it. It's an electro acoustic, not particularly good, but like I said, I'm lame with it, so I have no need for a good one yet.
I haven't been able to bring my keyboard to my uni flat yet, and my flute's a tad on the loud side to be playing late at night. But it's not like playing Cash songs is hard, so I can cope without being good.

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jim_doki:

perfectimo:

jim_doki:
I would love to see your stuff!

*totally awesome snip*

you are officially going on my freindd list. anyone who swears by strats, vox, and semi acoustics gets my vote.

is that a AC30CCH or an older model? Stacks are great for sound, but i honestly could never be bothered lugging one of those around. Why are you called "The Shoes"? do you have anything i could listen to?

I had a feeling we would end up friends, you seemed to like a lot of stuff I did. Friendship accepted.

AC30CCH, the guy at my local music shop was asking for $1600 - $1800 for the combo and the head and box was $1800. I have a Fender frontman for practice, the stack was for when my friends were doing gigs but the 1 friends moved to NSW and we broke-up until now.

We are called the Shoes because in an interview when the Beatles was asked why they were called the Beatles they said:

Interview:

Ringo: John thought of the name Beatles, and he'll tell you about it now.
John: It's just that it means Beatles, isn't it, you know? That's just a name, like "shoe."
Paul: "The Shoes." See, we could've been called "The Shoes," for all you know.

So we stole the name. I don't have anything audible you could listen to at the moment but if you are lucky me and my friend may record over the end of year holidays and I'll send you the files... in a torrent.

Red Guard
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Joined: 14 Oct 2007

So it seems we can post Equipment pictures. Here are the loves of my current life.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Labyrinth:
So it seems we can post Equipment pictures. Here are the loves of my current life.

I have always wondered, what do you tune a violins strings to?

EDIT: Forgot to say, that is a pretty darn cool violin, my friend has one but I'm guessing you didn't buy it just to look at.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 6 Feb 2008

perfectimo:

Labyrinth:
So it seems we can post Equipment pictures. Here are the loves of my current life.

I have always wondered, what do you tune a violins strings to?

EDIT: Forgot to say, that is a pretty darn cool violin, my friend has one but I'm guessing you didn't buy it just to look at.

G D A E; in fifths like a mandolin.

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Lukeje:
G D A E; in fifths like a mandolin.

Thanks. I think someone told me it was fourths one time but then it clicked in my head, they were a liar.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 27 Sep 2008

I'd buy a purple violin just to look at. I mean I'd attempt to play it, but I haven't played since I was 6 and I was pretty bad then, it's just so pretty.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2538
Joined: 29 Mar 2008

Labyrinth:
So it seems we can post Equipment pictures. Here are the loves of my current life.

violins=sexy

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 3639
Joined: 3 Apr 2008

Can anyone recommend me some decent turntables that can connect to my pc. I require some.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1911
Joined: 31 Jan 2008

galletea:
I like the Aeolian, but minor modes are always a winner for me.

There is no such thing as minor modes.. Modes are modes. Aeolian is the same as the minor scale and Lydian is close to a minor but thats about it.

Also I was aiming for this thread to be less "Hey I'm *blaah* and I play *blaah* I've only been playing for 2 years but I'm pretty amazing" and more "Yeah if you use G7 then it'll fit but try G7M to add some tension, it might not be what you're looking for but it could work"

But whatever

On the topic of learning theory - I think that if you want to be anything more then a bedroom hobby muso then you need it. At the very least (guitarists) learn the name of your chords and how to make them, different voicings and some concept of timing (bass players) know your fretboard and have a good (very good) sense of rhythm. I don't mean to pick on guitarists and bass players but come on, there are very few piano players who don't know their stuff. When you go and jam with other people it makes everything run smoother if you know your stuff, I've been to practices where we have knocked down 5 or 6 songs in a bit over an hour cos one person yells out the chords and the others play it. Fair enough if your knew to guitar you don't know F#m7-5 or B9add13 but if you have the willingness to learn then people will want to play with you more and in the future, hire you more.

Also - If your a new band please for the sake of good music don't go rushing to get gigs, make sure you are tight enough - play your songs flawlessly!

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smallharmlesskitten:
Can anyone recommend me some decent turntables that can connect to my pc. I require some.

I'm not a DJ but on a DJ album cover they had a picture of these, so take that as you wish.

Pulitzer Laureate
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zen5887:
*SNIP*

I don't play jazz and don't want to learn any time soon so those chords are pretty much useless to me. I know the kind of people you mean who rush to do gigs, me and my friends only played schools gigs. It's expected that you suck.

EDIT: Cut quote and sorry for double again. I'm going to bed that is like the fourth double post today.

Press Junketeer
Posts: 396
Joined: 8 May 2008

Hi, guys. I play the Viola. I'm horrible at it. You guys make me really ashamed that I do not know any music theory, let alone being able to play anything other than Twinkle Twinkle Little Star..
T-T I wish I can tell one pitch from another.
At least I have fun with Hime. Yes, I even named my Viola, even though I can barely keep a tune with her. (Yes, it's a her.)

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1911
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perfectimo:

zen5887:
*SNIP*

I don't play jazz and don't want to learn any time soon so those chords are pretty much useless to me. I know the kind of people you mean who rush to do gigs, me and my friends only played schools gigs. It's expected that you suck.

EDIT: Cut quote and sorry for double again. I'm going to bed that is like the fourth double post today.

Man 'big' chords don't just come up in Jazz - I've seen F11, C13, F#m7-5 and more as well as some pretty cool modulation in Disco

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zen5887:
Man 'big' chords don't just come up in Jazz - I've seen F11, C13, F#m7-5 and more as well as some pretty cool modulation in Disco

I thought disco had some weird chords, they always sounded so interesting.

I play rock n' roll, like chuck berry, the beatles and others I can't be bothered listing. My point is I don't use those chords as they aren't really part of that "sound" but I have learned different blues chords and scales because that is what I'm into.

I do hope to expand further in music but I'm taking my time. One day I will be playing chords that take longer to say than the song they are used in but that day will be a few years off.

Gone Gonzo
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zen5887:

galletea:
I like the Aeolian, but minor modes are always a winner for me.

There is no such thing as minor modes. Modes are modes. Aeolian is the same as the minor scale and Lydian is close to a minor but thats about it.

There are however modes that contain a minor third, and those that contain a major third. I believe that is what he was referring to. The dorian is also a 'minor' mode.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 13 Jul 2008

My favourite music programs currently are Sibelius, Audacity and:

Soundplant, the program that enables every key on a qwerty keyboard to launch different samples.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Joined: 16 Apr 2008

I know of modes and use them occasionally but don't really have a favourite. I'm all about clashing chords like Augmented 5th's and Minor/majors. I use them a lot on my music.

Press Junketeer
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Joined: 15 Nov 2008

jim_doki:

yeah, i would like to be like this, but i'm not talented enough and i dont really have the time to sit down. I write in a Sonic Youth style. if it sounds good, use it

I'm just lucky, my father began teaching me when I was little. (Though, I couldn't do much but learn about music theory until my hands were big enough to really play properly. lol) He's been playing since he was 14 (He's 60 now) and has studied music, played in countless local banmds, knows every genre in the book BLAH. He's just amazing at the instrument, so it helps to have someone like that teaching you.

zen5887:

On the topic of learning theory - I think that if you want to be anything more then a bedroom hobby muso then you need it. At the very least (guitarists) learn the name of your chords and how to make them, different voicings and some concept of timing (bass players) know your fretboard and have a good (very good) sense of rhythm. I don't mean to pick on guitarists and bass players but come on, there are very few piano players who don't know their stuff. When you go and jam with other people it makes everything run smoother if you know your stuff, I've been to practices where we have knocked down 5 or 6 songs in a bit over an hour cos one person yells out the chords and the others play it. Fair enough if your knew to guitar you don't know F#m7-5 or B9add13 but if you have the willingness to learn then people will want to play with you more and in the future, hire you more.

Agreed, theory is essential. Music, like anything else, is something you need to educate yourself about if you wish to ever become great.
I don't understand the mentallity of budding musicians who think they don't need theory, it's like a person picking up surgical utensils, who's watched a few surgeries on Discovery Health, thinking he can wander into a hospital and get a job as a surgeon with no education, it makes no sense.
Sorry, rawk starz, you need to study to become good.

Also, although I was taught music theory very young, going back to it, I decided to pick up Sean Malone's book "Music Theory For Bassists." Which I bought from Hal Leonard, online, for very cheap. Incredibly helpful, thorough read, very simplified too.
So, you aspiring bassists around here really should pick it up.

Also, it's by Sean Malone (Cynic, Gordian Knot) so that's just coated in win from the get-go.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 1 Jan 2008

KneeLord:
recording and engineering accoustic folk

You were using recorded samples right? Because if you weren't, I'm gonna have to ask a big how the hell did you do that?

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2538
Joined: 29 Mar 2008

having studied composition for four years i can heartily endorse the studying of musical theory. it's made me a much better songwriter

BANNED
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GenHellspawn:

KneeLord:
recording and engineering accoustic folk

You were using recorded samples right? Because if you weren't, I'm gonna have to ask a big how the hell did you do that?

No recorded samples, at least not in the sense I believe you're referring to.

To answer your question: I recorded the guitarist playing (with x2 AT2020 Cardioid Condenser Mics) into an audio interface (Edirol UA-25) via ASIO into Steinberg's Wavelab. Then, in FL, I opened the recording in 'audio clip' generator and tracked it in the bottom half of the playlist window. I assigned the audio clip generator to a mixer track and dropped in my insert FX (just mild compression, eq and the tiniest bit of reverb). The guitarist recorded to a click, so I didn't have to do much unquantized cutting or editing to make it all fit together.

It's worth noting in the above scenario that I recorded to Wavelab and then imported the .wav file in FL. That's just how I'm comfortable working, even if it introduces a few extra steps, which could be avoided if I recorded natively within FL Studio. To do so, (in version 8, at least) you'd just click record, specify that you want to record audio, and it will write directly to an audio clip generator via the Edison wave editor. Once you are finished recording, it will prompt you to name the wave file post facto.

If you want to take the above aproach, there are video tutorials off Image Line's website that explain it far better than I can in text.

Cheers

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Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 21 May 2008

My current guitar and amp arn't worth showing.
But on the 25th and I'll have myself a Epiphone Dot ES-335 Semi-Acoustic Electric Guitar in Cherry.

Gone Gonzo
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TheGhostOfSin:
My current guitar and amp arn't worth showing.
But on the 25th and I'll have myself a Epiphone Dot ES-335 Semi-Acoustic Electric Guitar in Cherry.

i have said it before and I will say it again. The epiphone dot is the best guitar under (au)$1300 you will ever find. they sound almost EXACTLY like a 335, and are a third of the cost

Gone Gonzo
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Labyrinth:
So it seems we can post Equipment pictures. Here are the loves of my current life.

..........................................*cries*

Labyrinth, I think it should be forbidden for you to show that absolutely sublime purple electric violin on the Escapist anymore.....It makes me think of my lack of electric cello..............

That's very cool, though, the picture of your acoustic violin. You know what this means, however.....Don't you?

Muckraker
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Joined: 16 Oct 2008

jezz8me:

TheGhostOfSin:

roblikestoskate:
What Would Bowie Do

Get old and disappear?

WWJD is more what you should be asking. Not jesus though. John as in Lenon.

Heh. Lennon's fine too. No need to get territorial. I would, however, like you to read this excerpt from Allmusic.com:

Even when he was out of fashion in the '80s and '90s, it was clear that Bowie was one of the most influential musicians in rock, for better and for worse. Each one of his phases in the '70s sparked a number of subgenres, including punk, new wave, goth rock, the new romantics, and electronica. Few rockers ever had such lasting impact.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 5 May 2008

My amp isn't worth showing, it's a cruddy little Behringer practice bass amp. Nothing special about it. When I was buying my bass I spent almost all my budget on the guitar, got the amp because it was cheap.

Whenever I finally get around to taking electric guitar lessons (Which at the moment I'm too damn busy for) I'll probably be getting one of these as a relatively cheap starter guitar.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 29 Mar 2008

Jamanticus:

Labyrinth:
So it seems we can post Equipment pictures. Here are the loves of my current life.

..........................................*cries*

Labyrinth, I think it should be forbidden for you to show that absolutely sublime purple electric violin on the Escapist anymore.....It makes me think of my lack of electric cello..............

That's very cool, though, the picture of your acoustic violin. You know what this means, however.....Don't you?

damn you all and your classical strings!
i actually have a few string quartet peices written that i've never heard live. im thinking i might find two more string players and make you suckers play it

Pulitzer Laureate
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Joined: 20 Dec 2007

Well. . .alot of guitar players here 'eh? But this thread isn't just about that so I'm going to come out and say I play the tuba and I'm not too bad if I do say so myself.

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