It's certainly not a positive thing in most cases. However, those of you saying it should be 'not -allowed-'...the only response I can think of, is even if you disagree with -why- someone would commit suicide, that doesn't mean anyone has the right to deny it to them. By all means, a person so depressed as to seriously commit the act should be given help where available, but beyond that, their lives are solely in their hands, bar any other circumstances such as murder etc.

And while it may be that it damages those around them psychologically, how exactly do you reconcile that with a dead person? -_- Or at the very least the determined? Fair enough, as a preventative, i.e.: You kill yourself you are hurting your friends and loved ones. But what if the person has none? Or believes they don't? Can -all- of them be convinced so easily that suicide is the wrong course of action?

Nimbus:
What if suicide was only legal for people found to be of sound mind? I think this would be a great solution.

Then crazy people would still kill themselves without seeking the consultation of anybody before hand.

BallPtPenTheif:

cuddly_tomato:

If you don't mind me asking... why drowning? I mean... jeez that's got to be one of the worst ways to go out.

Actually, I heard one theory that the afterlife experience might just be a hallucination that occurs when the brain degrades or deteorates at the rate of the golden ratio. Theoretically it could create an expansive hallucination that could seem to last for an eternity if not a very long time.

So drowning, bleeding to death, etc... would be ideal ways to go if you bought into that theory.

Interesting theory, however there is only one way to prove it, and I am not about to try it out!

Thing is though, when you commence on the path of self destruction (such as slashing your wrists) don't your self preservation instincts kick in and demand that you take action to save your life? I am talking MAJOR panic alarm bells ringing, unbearable anxiety while you are spraying blood plasma all over the phone you are using to call for an ambulance. If I was going to kill myself I would choose a method that did me in really really really quick. Maybe build myself a guillotine.

BallPtPenTheif:

Nimbus:
What if suicide was only legal for people found to be of sound mind? I think this would be a great solution.

Then crazy people would still kill themselves without seeking the consultation of anybody before hand.

So? I have a theory: No law should be formed with the assumption that it'll be broken. It dosn't change anything and messes up the ppricipal of law.

Nimbus:

So? I have a theory: No law should be formed with the assumption that it'll be broken. It dosn't change anything and messes up the ppricipal of law.

So then what do you think your law will be achieving? It fails as a deterrant and there are no benefits by it existing. Much like current anti-suicide laws they only exist token gestures of morality.

BallPtPenTheif:

Nimbus:

So? I have a theory: No law should be formed with the assumption that it'll be broken. It dosn't change anything and messes up the ppricipal of law.

So then what do you think your law will be achieving? It fails as a deterrant and there are no benefits by it existing. Much like current anti-suicide laws they only exist token gestures of morality.

It would allow sane people to kill themselves if they want to. +1 to freedom.

Nimbus:

BallPtPenTheif:

Nimbus:

So? I have a theory: No law should be formed with the assumption that it'll be broken. It dosn't change anything and messes up the ppricipal of law.

So then what do you think your law will be achieving? It fails as a deterrant and there are no benefits by it existing. Much like current anti-suicide laws they only exist token gestures of morality.

It would allow sane people to kill themselves if they want to. +1 to freedom.

That suicide is painless, it brings on many changes...and I could take or leave it if I please.
The game of life is hard to play, gonna lose it anyway...

gmer412:
One big opposition to suicide comes from religion. In Christianity, suicide is like throwing away a gift that someone had given you. God gave you life, and it's not your right to take it away. That said, I'm not religious. I think that the ONLY time it should be allowed is when someone has a terminal disease/condition. Or possibly something that can't be treated and causes excruciating pain.

STOP EVEN REFERENCING RELIGION, YOU ARE FUELING THE ESCAPIST HOLY WAR AND NEED TO BE REMOVED.

Battlefrank:

gmer412:
One big opposition to suicide comes from religion. In Christianity, suicide is like throwing away a gift that someone had given you. God gave you life, and it's not your right to take it away. That said, I'm not religious. I think that the ONLY time it should be allowed is when someone has a terminal disease/condition. Or possibly something that can't be treated and causes excruciating pain.

STOP EVEN REFERENCING RELIGION, YOU ARE FUELING THE ESCAPIST HOLY WAR AND NEED TO BE REMOVED.

GRAGH! DIE, USER OF CAPS!

Spartan Bannana:
These days, there's much talk of suicide, and while I personally think of it as a terrible thing and decision, I consider it to be a person's right. They should be allowed to take their own life if they really want to. However, many people see fit to stop other people from committing suicide, and I think that this is a form of oppression. So what do all of you think, is suicide a right? Should people be allowed to commit suicide unobstructed?

The irony of your picture has not gotten past me...
and irony is a sneaky 'lil bastard.

Suicide is not the way out, people need help. Not just "it's going to be okay, everything is alright" because if everything were alright they wouldn't be killing themselves, would they? And, be honest, when has saying that ever helped ever? If you are seriously depressed, you need help.

Suicide is right if there is no other option and no waty to escape or make whatever you are going through at all better but the thing is that is almost never the case. There is always something t be done. It is ultimately the decision of the commiter though.

Mr Frogurt:
No, suicide usually takes place in mentally diseased people and can be stopped. Euthanasia on the other hand, i believe should be legal. I would rather be able to die peacefully than live for another month of horrible pain.....wouldn't you?

I have to agree with you. Suicide is preventable, but Euthanasia can help people pass in peace.

if i had to go itd be by shooting myself

hem dazon 90:
if i had to go itd be by shooting myself

Me too. Quick and painless.

I think people should be legally allowed to end their lives.
I cannot jump inside of peoples' heads, I don't know what it's like to be them, so it would be inappropriate of me to assume there's a magical way to make things better for them.
Yes, perhaps therapy and liver crippling quantities of drugs can help, however, I'm of a cynical disposition, so I don't really find a mountain of value in life anyway.
If you're not enjoying it... hell, it's understandable, life doesn't exactly get miraculously better.
The greater part of your life is spent slowly deteriorating and fighting to live as long as possible before you kick the bucket.
Life is not glamorous, so if someone looks at it saying "This is not worth it" I can understand and respect their decision.

Mr Frogurt:
No, suicide usually takes place in mentally diseased people and can be stopped. Euthanasia on the other hand, i believe should be legal. I would rather be able to die peacefully than live for another month of horrible pain.....wouldn't you?

oh ya

A girl a few years younger than me that I knew back in highschool killed herself last week. Sad stuff. I never would have expected it from her. I can't really form an opinion on this so soon after.

However, I am in full support of euthanasia for terminally ill patients who want to die.

I'm kind of in a state of uncaring about suicide, I know its a horrible event but I just don't care, then again I'm one of the more thick skinned individuals you will meet.

On a side not my school does an assembly about suicide every year. Last year they gave us a figure of, "every second, 17 people commit suicide" that might not seem like a lot at first, but that's 536,112,000 a year that would wipe out the earth in 11.19 years (assuming there are 6 billion people), I thought that was the stupidest thing they could have said ever, it ruined the rest of their argument.

No, I don't think it is a right. That being said I find the legal status of it interesting. It is illegal yet if they succeed there is nothing to be done and if they fail rather than go to Jail they might instead go to a mental hospital.

If you have the right to live, you have the right to die.

They want it so bad, I say let them have at it.

'Mentally diseased' I could careless, you want to kill yourself and have the means then do it.

Unless you sick or being tourtured by a nazi or somthing I wouldn't help you kill youself because thats a momentary feeling with some long term results. Odds are if you got some one out of killing themselves they'd thank you a few years down the road.

Suicide should be a crime that's punishable by death.

On a more serious note, suicide is nothing but a selfish and cowardly way out, and I'll never have any respect or sympathy for the people who choose it. They've got no care or concern about what they're doing to anyone else, only themselves.

I have this little saying: The government should NOT control our bodies, meaning we can do whatever the f*** we want with it, its YOUR body, not theirs, so yeah, if you dont like your life, you have every single right to take it away.

Also on topic, everyone should have full right over their own body, if they want to destroy it, its their choice, if they want to pump it full of alcohol and drugs, its their choice, as long as they dont hurt anyone else physically, it should be legal.

That being said, i dont like suicide, i think its a bad way out of life, and it really scars those close to you, but when it comes to your rights, you should have the right to do it.

Total freedom over your own body should be something everyone thinks of as obvious.

Fronken:
I have this little saying: The government should NOT control our bodies, meaning we can do whatever the f*** we want with it, its YOUR body, not theirs, so yeah, if you dont like your life, you have every single right to take it away.

Also on topic, everyone should have full right over their own body, if they want to destroy it, its their choice, if they want to pump it full of alcohol and drugs, its their choice, as long as they dont hurt anyone else physically, it should be legal.

That being said, i dont like suicide, i think its a bad way out of life, and it really scars those close to you, but when it comes to your rights, you should have the right to do it.

Total freedom over your own body should be something everyone thinks of as obvious.

Every right comes with a responsibility. If you can't uphold that responsibility, the right is taken away from you. What would be the responsibility of those wanting to end their life?

To further prod at your argument...
From the amount of 300kg plus people lining up for a few large meals at maccas to tide them over 'til dinner, or the scrawny junkie laying in the gutter of a busy city street, people can't be trusted to have total control over their body. Besides which, everything you do has an impact on the others around you. How can you have total control over yourself without impugning on the rights of every other individual out there?

in my opinion. suicide is selfish and weak, my friends brother shot himself because he was being bullied at school. i doubt he even thought of the damage he had brought to his familiy, especialy his sister (my friend). ive was bullied during my primary school years, i just took it, busted a few lips and walked off. the fact that a person would actual thinks that their best choice is suicide just shows that they didnt think it through or go deep enough.

if you ever have read the amazing book by James Frey called "a million little pieces", a true story about James frey's fight and stuggle against drugs and liquor. the man is still living, his healthy and although he went through one of the toughest expriences of his life, he didnt commit suicide.

so no, i am against suicide

Mr Frogurt:
No, suicide usually takes place in mentally diseased people and can be stopped. Euthanasia on the other hand, i believe should be legal. I would rather be able to die peacefully than live for another month of horrible pain.....wouldn't you?

no.
i do not believe in life after death, i hope for it but i logicly know it does not exist... i am watching "Blade Runner" right not BTW.

i personally think that people who do suicide are weak and not in the right track of mind.. dont get me wrong but i think they need help mfrom their family and friends, help to make them build a stronger personality and carry on.. i think its not a solution but more of additional problem..

Too many variables! To many things to take into consideration when figuring out if suicide is tbe best course of action. Then it depends on the situation I guess. . .I mean, there are a lot of things to think about here. Do I think suicide is right or wrong? I think it's wrong. Are their situations in life that can make it a right course of action? I don't know. . .maybe. . .like Euthanasia, that to me has a very good possibility of being the right course of action, but again it's situational. This whole concept is tricky. lol!

I agree with JayThulu and Toxic Waster.

Suicide, like murder, is usually commited at a point in a person's life when he's not thinking straight. I wouldn't say they were mentally diseased persé (though this can very well be the case), they can also be in a wrong state of mind at the time. Afterward they almost always end up regretting having done it (or at least the three I know did, as do the ones you read about in papers/magazines).

I've thought about it myself but could never console myself with the idea. For one, it's weak in the extreme and will hurt every friend and relative you've ever had, yes even that uncle you've only met twice will probably be saddened, and especially those parents you're always fighting with. You know, those people that hate you. For two, (and this may sound extremely corny) what the hell am I complaining about, being born into the middleclass in a developed country?

I agree with allowing euthanasia btw.

Why are there so many people here that think just because they don't agree with it, it should be illegal? It seems such a terrible irony that suicide should be illegal.

Jaythulhu:
On a more serious note, suicide is nothing but a selfish and cowardly way out, and I'll never have any respect or sympathy for the people who choose it. They've got no care or concern about what they're doing to anyone else, only themselves.

A lot of people with little to no experience or understanding of depression say things like this.

Depression is an illness. Not a life choice. Suicide can be a consequence of that illness. Would you go to a cancer sufferer and tell them that dying is a "selfish and cowardly way out"?

cuddly_tomato:

Jaythulhu:
On a more serious note, suicide is nothing but a selfish and cowardly way out, and I'll never have any respect or sympathy for the people who choose it. They've got no care or concern about what they're doing to anyone else, only themselves.

A lot of people with little to no experience or understanding of depression say things like this.

Depression is an illness. Not a life choice. Suicide can be a consequence of that illness. Would you go to a cancer sufferer and tell them that dying is a "selfish and cowardly way out"?

What a load of horseshit. For the record, dying from cancer is not suicide, it's being killed by a disease. They're about as similar as a fart and hamburger. Death by suicide is NOT the end result of depression. Oh, and by the way, depression is entirely treatable and curable. Funny that. To not seek help and to go off yourself because you've got a chemical imbalance in your brain is cowardly, selfish, and plenty of other things besides.

For you to even try and link the death of a cancer sufferer with some selfish prat who commits suicide is pathetic, you miserable little worm. Cancer sufferers fight with every ounce of their being to try and live. Suiciders don't give a fuck about anyone other than themselves, and are not worthy of being in the same afterlife. It's ignorant, uninformed people trying to make excuses that spout bullshit like yours.