Well, we can't deny that Apple makes great computers. Most will even say they're better than PC (hell, I agree). So I figured that mac users deserved a Mac thread (even PC users should read up on Mac). So here it is the iThread dedicated to Mac chat.

I would also like to invite some pro Mac users to discuss on here and answer questions about Macs.

Hmmm...even though I do not use a mac, I feel a need to post on this thread...

Spartan Bannana:
Hmmm...even though I do not use a mac, I feel a need to post on this thread...

ask a question if you feel like you want to know more. i use a Mac every day. for both work and entertainment...

xxcloud417xx:
Well, we can't deny that Apple makes great computers. Most will even say they're better than PC (hell, I agree). So I figured that mac users deserved a Mac thread (even PC users should read up on Mac). So here it is the iThread dedicated to Mac chat.

I would also like to invite some pro Mac users to discuss on here and answer questions about Macs.

I would say that 90% of computer users disagree with you.

This isn't a statement, I mean it as an honest question to all Mac users...

Why did you buy a Mac as opposed to a PC?

the_tramp:
This isn't a statement, I mean it as an honest question to all Mac users...

Why did you buy a Mac as opposed to a PC?

I second this question, and not as an attack on Macs, but just what attracted you to them.

the_tramp:
This isn't a statement, I mean it as an honest question to all Mac users...

Why did you buy a Mac as opposed to a PC?

I think the answer will be either "I needed it for x software that was free" or "because it was cool".

xxcloud417xx:
Well, we can't deny that Apple makes great computers.

Yes we can, quite easily.

the_tramp:
This isn't a statement, I mean it as an honest question to all Mac users...

Why did you buy a Mac as opposed to a PC?

Many reasons :

Performance. Macs are really performant computers and they always have been. Go to Apple.com and look up the Mac Pro, it's insane.

Esthetics. They also do look pretty nice and sleek.

Annoyance. Vista vs. Mac OS X. That's all i got to say.

Service. Apple has a great warranty and they replace almost without question. Not only that, they now will transfer all your files from your PC to a Mac when you make the purchase of one, free of charge.

Marketing. I will admit I'm a slave to marketing, so are alot of people. And Apple knows how to present their stuff.

TheGhostOfSin:

xxcloud417xx:
Well, we can't deny that Apple makes great computers.

Yes we can, quite easily.

Then do it. don't say you can.

Nimbus, 90% of computer owners don't care what they get, they just want something cheap, that browses the web and is able to use a word processing document. That's hardly the crowd to ask if a Mac is a good machine.

xxcloud417xx:

TheGhostOfSin:

xxcloud417xx:
Well, we can't deny that Apple makes great computers.

Yes we can, quite easily.

Then do it. don't say you can.

Ok then I will.

I deny that Apple makes great computers.
Well that was even easier than I thought it would be.

My former boss was/is a Mac hardcore fan/ fanboy. I honestly don't know why. Anything that has an Apple logo is automatically better. Dell monitor? Peh! This monitor is made by Apple, THUS better!

He can't stand Windows, even though there's nothing wrong with it if you do the things he does on his Mac. I guess Mac users are the emos/goths of the digital society. They just want to be different.

TheGhostOfSin:

xxcloud417xx:

TheGhostOfSin:

xxcloud417xx:
Well, we can't deny that Apple makes great computers.

Yes we can, quite easily.

Then do it. don't say you can.

Ok then I will.

I deny that Apple makes great computers.
Well that was even easier than I thought it would be.

Did i mention that most people who deny that Apple makes great computers are either ignorant, stupid or both? I think we have a good example of one of those people now. Thanks TheGhostOfSin.

Get some information, and make a counter-argument that makes sense. This thread was made for just that Discussion on Macs. You can defend them or say that they suck. but we want reasons.

xxcloud417xx:

the_tramp:
This isn't a statement, I mean it as an honest question to all Mac users...

Why did you buy a Mac as opposed to a PC?

Many reasons :

Performance. Macs are really performant computers and they always have been. Go to Apple.com and look up the Mac Pro, it's insane.

Esthetics. They also do look pretty nice and sleek.

Annoyance. Vista vs. Mac OS X. That's all i got to say.

Service. Apple has a great warranty and they replace almost without question. Not only that, they now will transfer all your files from your PC to a Mac when you make the purchase of one, free of charge.

Marketing. I will admit I'm a slave to marketing. And Apple knows how to present their stuff.

Performance: So is any good PC. Seriously, my PC could whoop most macs any day of the week. (At the things I use it for. Games, things that use less than 8 Cores; Everything)

Esthetics: I disagree. I want something that looks like a god-damned monolith, not a... a... I don't even know how to describve how ugly macs look to me.

Annoyance: The only OS I have used that I thought was worse to use than OSX was Ubuntu. And that was probably because I didn't give Ubuntu a proper try.

Service: Depends on where you buy. Most PC outles/PC parts outlets have outstanding service. Also, what's the point of having all my files transfered when iTunes can't play them (Except for like, 3 file types) or there is no MS Word.

Marketing: Youtube search "I'm a PC". Some of that shit is hilarious.

xxcloud417xx:

TheGhostOfSin:

xxcloud417xx:

TheGhostOfSin:

xxcloud417xx:
Well, we can't deny that Apple makes great computers.

Yes we can, quite easily.

Then do it. don't say you can.

Ok then I will.

I deny that Apple makes great computers.
Well that was even easier than I thought it would be.

Did i mention that most people who deny that Apple makes great computers are either ignorant, stupid or both? I think we have a good example of one of those people now. Thanks TheGhostOfSin.

Get some information, and make a counter-argument that makes sense. This thread was made for just that Discussion on Macs. You can defend them or say that they suck. but we want reasons.

They have less programs. That is the prime argument, I think.

Honestly, I may be in the 1% here, but I've never had any problems with vista. Maybe a small bug here or there, but much better than XP or any other main-stream OS.

I'll admit it, I much prefer windows to mac. I can't fully explain why but the strangest reason is the smear campaign that mac launched. I always saw mac as more of an underdog, the guys who beat the the ***holes on the evil team at the end of the movie in a thrilling upset. The smear campaign they've been using against windows the whole time really ruins that image for me and watching windows take the high road (at least so far) and avoid mac-bashing speaks volumes to me. That is my opinion and I'm actually very interested in learning more what makes macs so awesome (I mean that honestly, I don't know a huge amount about them). I also have the similar question, Why a mac? Why not a PC?

I suppose I should also point out that I much prefer a PC that is capable of being changed to personal preference. I love being able to modify my machine to make it stronger for gaming, movie making, movie watching, or anything else I feel like. As far as I know, (and I would like to point out my knowledge of macs is limited at best) the mac is not as compatible with new hardware or software.

I should also point out that I love gaming and powerful gaming computers. To my knowledge,(which once again, is fairly limited) macs are not nearly as powerful and comparing the mac-pro to my own machine, my machine is several times more powerful.

I have one other question if nobody minds, are makes capable of gaming? And if so, at what level?

Mariena:
My former boss was/is a Mac hardcore fan/ fanboy. I honestly don't know why. Anything that has an Apple logo is automatically better. Dell monitor? Peh! This monitor is made by Apple, THUS better!

He can't stand Windows, even though there's nothing wrong with it if you do the things he does on his Mac. I guess Mac users are the emos/goths of the digital society. They just want to be different.

Some people are a slave to marketing, as I've said. And Apple knows how to Market their product. We have a bunch of Mac Pros where I work (its a newspaper) and personally i prefer the interface and etc. of the Mac, it also runs the Adobe programs (Illustrator, InDesign, Photoshop) alot better in my opinion. But if you look at the setup, you'll notice that we have the Mac towers with some plain PC monitors. Mac monitors are nice, BUT, they're pricey and not really essential when you can get one for a quarter of the price from Dell.

xxcloud417xx:

the_tramp:
This isn't a statement, I mean it as an honest question to all Mac users...

Why did you buy a Mac as opposed to a PC?

Many reasons :

Performance. Macs are really performant computers and they always have been. Go to Apple.com and look up the Mac Pro, it's insane.

Esthetics. They also do look pretty nice and sleek.

Annoyance. Vista vs. Mac OS X. That's all i got to say.

Service. Apple has a great warranty and they replace almost without question. Not only that, they now will transfer all your files from your PC to a Mac when you make the purchase of one, free of charge.

Marketing. I will admit I'm a slave to marketing. And Apple knows how to present their stuff.

Too bloody true you are slave to marketing.

You can't say better performance because you can build the same spec PC as the Mac Pro and for cheaper.

You also can't just say Vista vs OSX because the majority don't use vista they use XP and even then a lot of people use linux. So you have to compare OSX with all the other OS on the market.

Service also depends hugely on who you bought your PC from or if you built it yourself.

I'll give you looks but they aren't my taste, even then there is a myriad of case designs for PCs.

This is why I think these debates are stupid. Only thing to you can discuss is the merits of the OS but thats subjective because people want different things out of there OS.

Some want gaming (windows), others want to be able to have full control over there OS and PC (Linux) some want something thats easy and simple or how apple put it "just works"(OSX).

Nimbus:

xxcloud417xx:

the_tramp:
This isn't a statement, I mean it as an honest question to all Mac users...

Why did you buy a Mac as opposed to a PC?

Many reasons :

Performance. Macs are really performant computers and they always have been. Go to Apple.com and look up the Mac Pro, it's insane.

Esthetics. They also do look pretty nice and sleek.

Annoyance. Vista vs. Mac OS X. That's all i got to say.

Service. Apple has a great warranty and they replace almost without question. Not only that, they now will transfer all your files from your PC to a Mac when you make the purchase of one, free of charge.

Marketing. I will admit I'm a slave to marketing. And Apple knows how to present their stuff.

Performance: So is any good PC. Seriously, my PC could whoop most macs any day of the week. (At the things I use it for. Games, things that use less than 8 Cores; Everything)

Esthetics: I disagree. I want something that looks like a god-damned monolith, not a... a... I don't even know how to describve how ugly macs look to me.

Annoyance: The only OS I have used that I thought was worse to use than OSX was Ubuntu. And that was probably because I didn't give Ubuntu a proper try.

Service: Depends on where you buy. Most PC outles/PC parts outlets have outstanding service. Also, what's the point of having all my files transfered when iTunes can't play them (Except for like, 3 file types) or there is no MS Word.

Marketing: Youtube search "I'm a PC". Some of that shit is hilarious.

xxcloud417xx:

TheGhostOfSin:

xxcloud417xx:

TheGhostOfSin:

xxcloud417xx:
Well, we can't deny that Apple makes great computers.

Yes we can, quite easily.

Then do it. don't say you can.

Ok then I will.

I deny that Apple makes great computers.
Well that was even easier than I thought it would be.

Did i mention that most people who deny that Apple makes great computers are either ignorant, stupid or both? I think we have a good example of one of those people now. Thanks TheGhostOfSin.

Get some information, and make a counter-argument that makes sense. This thread was made for just that Discussion on Macs. You can defend them or say that they suck. but we want reasons.

They have less programs. That is the prime argument, I think.

They don't have less programs, they just have less of the common PC programs, and alot less games (unfortunately. The Mac has some of the Basic PC programs like Word, Power Point Excel, etc. It also has all of the Adobe programs (InDesign, Macromedia Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere Pro, Audition, etc.) But for all the PC programs it lacks it makes up for with a different (and often cooler or better) Mac program (Garage Band, Final Cut, Aperture, Logic Express, iMovie, etc.) Getting a Mac takes getting used to because of this, but many of the people that have done it, have been alot happier with the new programs.

xxcloud417xx:

They don't have less programs, they just have less of the common PC programs, and alot less games (unfortunately. The Mac has some of the Basic PC programs like Word, Power Point Excel, etc. It also has all of the Adobe programs (InDesign, Macromedia Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere Pro, Audition, etc.) But for all the PC programs it lacks it makes up for with a different (and often cooler or better) Mac program (Garage Band, Final Cut, Aperture, Logic Express, iMovie, etc.) Getting a Mac takes getting used to because of this, but many of the people that have done it, have been alot happier with the new programs.

And which of those come pre-installed on every mac for free? (Serious question)

a mac thread huh?¿..sorry I don't like macs,too simple for me, windows Vista(yes I said vista) works just fine for me...but for more answers to why I do not like macs and macusers check this video http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

p.s. it's all good fun until people take my comment seriously, so please don't ^^ my bro is a macuser/macfanboy

xxcloud417xx:

Did i mention that most people who deny that Apple makes great computers are either ignorant, stupid or both? I think we have a good example of one of those people now. Thanks TheGhostOfSin.

Get some information, and make a counter-argument that makes sense. This thread was made for just that Discussion on Macs. You can defend them or say that they suck. but we want reasons.

Oh, you're one of those people.

You said I couldn't deny something and I did, you never asked me to give a counter-arguement.

xxcloud417xx:

TheGhostOfSin:

xxcloud417xx:
Well, we can't deny that Apple makes great computers.

Yes we can, quite easily.

Then do it. don't say you can.

See.
I did that, but you decided it was necessary to call someone stupid and ignorant for having a different opinion than you.

I don't need to justify myself or my opinions to you.
Now the mere thought of apple or it's products may fill you with glee and optimism but others don't feel the same and you would do well to remember that.

But you want a reason?
Fine, Games for Windows. That is all the reason I need.

Oh, Macs are fantastic. I mean, they're just great for gaming aren't they! Really great. Just peachy.

xxcloud417xx:
Well, we can't deny that Apple makes great computers. Most will even say they're better than PC (hell, I agree).

I, along with, oh about 99% of PC gamers, would disagree with you.

Please, I challenge you to present to me the pros of gaming on a Mac as opposed to a PC.

Eggo:
I use a Mac Pro at work but compared to even Vista, the UI is utterly useless in terms of actually getting things done.

It's great for people who have a lot more money than computer literacy though.

Mwhaha. I knew you'd say that.

Rely on apple for entertainment, but if you live in a house made of Apple, you lose sight of the world because there would be *drumroll* no Windows!

xxcloud417xx:

TheGhostOfSin:

xxcloud417xx:

TheGhostOfSin:

xxcloud417xx:
Well, we can't deny that Apple makes great computers.

Yes we can, quite easily.

Then do it. don't say you can.

Ok then I will.

I deny that Apple makes great computers.
Well that was even easier than I thought it would be.

Did i mention that most people who deny that Apple makes great computers are either ignorant, stupid or both? I think we have a good example of one of those people now. Thanks TheGhostOfSin.

Get some information, and make a counter-argument that makes sense. This thread was made for just that Discussion on Macs. You can defend them or say that they suck. but we want reasons.

Ok, I will....

Or no I won't. I will just link this...

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

Never used a Mac ><
But Apples new line is interesting: Youtube link

All I can say is, Macs screwed up my schoolwork as a teenager. That "finder"? GAAAAH

MY opinion is entirely based on gaming, so that's why I never went for a mac.

I know SOME games are out on Mac, but, I need choice, so I'm sticking to the PC.

Why are we discussing Macs, on a gaming forum? That's like discussing squares in a forum that's about drawing circles.

I have a question. Why is it that this "superior" computer and operating system has a program for it that allows you to run Windows on it? If it is so "superior", shouldn't it be able to do it without the help of Windows?

Yes, I am pro-PC. I am not against Macs at all, I just want to know why people think they are so much better than PCs. What can Macs do that PCs can't? Besides run a program that runs Windows I mean.

Saphatorael:
Why are we discussing Macs, on a gaming forum? That's like discussing squares in a forum that's about drawing circles.

Win.

Gxas:

Saphatorael:
Why are we discussing Macs, on a gaming forum? That's like discussing squares in a forum that's about drawing circles.

Win.

If circle drawers never discuss other shapes, then they limit themselves and their knowledge.

ChristmasChild:
Rely on apple for entertainment, but if you live in a house made of Apple, you lose sight of the world because there would be *drumroll* no Windows!

My god that's bad ><
Made me cringe and well...laugh a little.

And WTF is up with the iPhone commercials with the "magic hand"? O want to see someone using them like they were meant to be used. Mindless, repetetive tapping, screaming in frustration at the dusty screen!