Being a teenage girl I have to say this Twilight was a good book and I completely understand why anyone who's not a girl would hate it. It was not great but most people hate it because it has a large fan base but when you read it you find its average. "everything in it has been done before and better" The story was done before and its written so simple and inartistic that a third grader could read it, its not bad its just simple book for simple people. If your going to hate it at least read it first Also the movie was great the acting was so horrible it had me laughing the entire way through, also to clarify in the book their is no sex scene it skips over that so yes they do have sex no it does not go into detail. (Also if you want a valid point of why is sucks the vampires glitter in sunlight they don't burst in the flames cuz sparkling is so much cooler)

I attempted to read the first book in series after hearing from several people, male and female, that it was good.

I got to the part where the main vampire sparkles in the sunlight, shut the book, winged it across the room and immediately picked up Shadows Linger by Glen Cook to distract me from the trash I had wasted half a day reading.

I think the point to take away from this is
VAMPIRES ARE LAME
unless the Nosforeatu vampires are gonna make a comeback
ugly nasty plaugespreading bloodsuckers are cool by me

But you know what? A werewolf book would suck too
You know why?
Because you don't write a good book by going

Guy 1-"Dude you know what's awesome?"
Guy 2-"I don't know, what is awesome Brodawg?"
Guy 1-"Werewolves my broski."
Guy 2-"AWWWW FUCK YEAH WEREWOLVES!"
Guy 1-"Dude, broseph, you know what we should do?"
Guy 2-"I dunno my bromide, what?"
Guy 1-"Write a book, ABOUT werewolves!"

although I'm pretty sure if you replaced all the werewolves in there with vampires you'd get the exact conversation that spawned twilight..

I kind of have trouble understanding people who harbor such unadulterated hate for something they haven't even experienced. I mean, I have no intention of reading/watching Twilight, but that's because it just doesn't appeal to me, and I haven't heard anything from friends or the Internet to dissuade me otherwise.

For example, I really liked the Harry Potter novels. It really bothered me when people would pronounce judgment on them without having read them. Just move on, guy.

tikiwargod:
This doesn't suprise me, I personally think the movie will suck and have no intention of seeing it, all the really well received movies aren't that good. For example: the Dark Night was awful and There Will Be Blood was only good for the main actor.

I don't really get some of your argument here. Twilight wasn't necessarily well-received by critics, even if it did make a crapton of money. It currently posts a 56/100 on Metacritic. That's not that great. Furthermore, that's a pretty sweeping statement claiming that "well-received movies aren't that good." I mean, clearly someone (actually, a lot of someones) think that those movies are really good. Critics aren't right all the time, but there's gotta be something to what they're saying.

Oh, and I loved There Will Be Blood. Great acting, interesting and epic story, GREAT soundtrack. What's not to like?

I liked There Will Be Blood, too...and No Country for Old Men, as well. That one was awesome. But back to twilight. I don't hate it. I just pay no attention to it. It's hard sometimes, but it gets easier when you remember it's just a fad and that it isn't nearly endearing enough to have the lasting appeal of a classic.

Your.Name.Here:
I mistakenly picked the option "Gremily SUCKS", I thought Gremily related to the book in some way, so I would like to apologize for that.

Anywho, Twilight sucks, and I invite anyone who disagrees to attempt to show me otherwise.

I did the same damn thing

You know why these books are popular? Dreamy lead male character.

I seriously heard a girl say "Oh man, he's just so perfect" while discussing Edward with one of her friends.

RebelRising:
...Cracked humorist Dan Gladstone's Hate By Numbers.

That was a great video, but sadly, he no longer makes them.

PS. His name's Wayne.

GenHellspawn:

RebelRising:
...Cracked humorist Dan Gladstone's Hate By Numbers.

That was a great video, but sadly, he no longer makes them.

PS. His name's Wayne.

Yeah, that's a shame, but SWAIM's new series seems to make up for it, along with Net_Work. Not quite as funny though.

One of my friend's girlfriend is nuts about this "Edward". Apparently, she keeps nagging him why can't you be like Edward. The worst part is, she's not joking.

Dr Spaceman:
I kind of have trouble understanding people who harbor such unadulterated hate for something they haven't even experienced. I mean, I have no intention of reading/watching Twilight, but that's because it just doesn't appeal to me, and I haven't heard anything from friends or the Internet to dissuade me otherwise.

For example, I really liked the Harry Potter novels. It really bothered me when people would pronounce judgment on them without having read them. Just move on, guy.

tikiwargod:
This doesn't suprise me, I personally think the movie will suck and have no intention of seeing it, all the really well received movies aren't that good. For example: the Dark Night was awful and There Will Be Blood was only good for the main actor.

I don't really get some of your argument here. Twilight wasn't necessarily well-received by critics, even if it did make a crapton of money. It currently posts a 56/100 on Metacritic. That's not that great. Furthermore, that's a pretty sweeping statement claiming that "well-received movies aren't that good." I mean, clearly someone (actually, a lot of someones) think that those movies are really good. Critics aren't right all the time, but there's gotta be something to what they're saying.

Oh, and I loved There Will Be Blood. Great acting, interesting and epic story, GREAT soundtrack. What's not to like?

I just don't find the story compelling, nothing happens untill the end when he confronts his son and then kill the priest. Although you're right about the acting and soundtrack.

Random argument man:
One of my friend's girlfriend is nuts about this "Edward". Apparently, she keeps nagging him why can't you be like Edward. The worst part is, she's not joking.

Which is exactly why the book sells so much! It's disgusting! She needs to stop nagging your friend or I will personally come and tell her she needs to program a brain for herself.

Edward watches Bella sleep at night when she doesn't know he's there via window.
Oh wait, that's romantic, isn't it? [Sarcasm]

I saw the movie with a couple of friends because one of them is a tool. After Zack and Miri, it's the funniest movie I've seen all year.

For a good MST3K ribbing, see Twilight. For a good movie or any kind of plot at all, don't.

I really, really don't care about any of this Twilight bullshit. Its only a fad, it will die soon.

gremily:
Twilight has swept the nation and I don't see what the big deal is. I have not read any of the books or seen the movie, and don't want to. This is my basic overview of it: There's a human girl and a vampire dude, and they can't love each other but they do anyway. WOW, THAT HAS'NT EVER BEEN USED BEFORE. And I don't care if it got $70.6 million in the box office. That doessn't make the movie any good. Out of fifteen different sites that was posted on Google, the average rating was 2.6 out of 5.

So far most of the people who I've seen reading it is teenage girls, and I've also heard that it has like eight sex sceens. I opened the first book off a freind to a random page, and it said, "He put his arms around her waist," and that was all the proof I needed. Besides, Vampires are way overated. You know whats missing in this world... Werewolfs; and for all the twilight fans reading this, DON'T SEND ME HATE MAIL ABOUT THERE BEING WEREWOLFS IN THE BOOK. I'm talking about a full werewolf book, not just some on the side.

What do you think?

Sorry for picking Gremily SUCKS,I thought by Gremily, you meant extremely, and were trying to say that Twilight extremely sucks. :S Sorry. Sad thing: Twilight sold better than James Bond, and James Bond ACTUALLY has a scene were he is naked with this secretary [is UberAmazing]. But I do agree,it's just pathetic. The only cool vampires in video games/books/movies/etc. [besides Dracula] are The Family from Fallout 3. They eat corpses... That is just amazing. By the way, HP Lovecraft FTW. and Fallout 3 FTW!

It's the "it" book for the average teenage girl. Just like all the other "it" things it'll fade away into obscurity. Although it does bug me a lot mainly because Twilight is apparently better than 1984 according to the people who read Twilight; if they know who George Orwell is (which is a grand total of zero).

dalek sec:
And this picture sum's up the whole series and everything to me:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/merc501/psyduckmotivatorrx0.jpg

Thank you for the new Avatar
xD By the way,I just realized why Twilight is so successful. The girls read it for one reason: They are prepubescent and are extremely horny from teh hormones that are changing them. So, they read Twilight, they read the soft-core porn and get horny.
Problem solved. Now where is my Pip-Boy 3000 you promised! -tazed by Gman- Rise...and...shine...Mr. Freeman...Rise and shine...

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/bum-reviews/2741-twilight

I have read all four books and I genuinely like the series. I started reading it because my girlfriend was reading it and she wanted someone to talk to about it, so I figured I would read it so we could discuss it. It helped that I hugely enjoy vampire lore myself.

The movie deviates from the book a bit, but keeps the feeling from the book, so I felt it was rather well done. Everything fits well and the casting was well done.

As for the "eight sex scenes" the OP talks about, they do not exist. While sex does get alluded to, it isn't until the last book, and they don't describe it, just that it happened. The target market for this book is young adult, so that sort of content wouldn't be in the book anyhow.

Overall, it's a series that attracts many people because it is well written and the characters are believable.

I think its just a shitty concept first thought up by Shakespeare (the whole 'forbidden love' thing) that was pulled through a meat grinder by some menopasal 30-year old chick and is eaten up by socially awkward and sexually unsatisfied teenage girls who have this illusion that they can change bad boys. I find it ridiculous.

Twilight has done to vampires something that breaks my heart. Twilight made them uncool...

People, its bad. We all get it.
There's something seriously wrong with a book when even its biggest fans admit that its poorly written.

Random argument man:
One of my friend's girlfriend is nuts about this "Edward". Apparently, she keeps nagging him why can't you be like Edward. The worst part is, she's not joking.

Wait, she wants him to be a pedophile, murderer, and demon?

Twilight is good for one thing, the return of Mute Math on the soundtrack.

You have to remember who the intended reader of the books are and then relate that to the movie. My friend read the book because we both want to see the movie (out of curiosity, hot guy and VAMPIRES come-on) and she said she wishes she could shut they girl up about the little girl love "ohhh he's so beautiful", especially considering it's like half the book... but alas we'll both still see the movie, completely realizing how incredibly lame the love story is.

It's a pop love story and it has vampires. Yes it's been done and for some reason it's crack to the female fantasy horror fans.

Buffy, Angel, True Blood, Moonlight.... OH THE LIST GOES ON!

Random argument man:
One of my friend's girlfriend is nuts about this "Edward". Apparently, she keeps nagging him why can't you be like Edward. The worst part is, she's not joking.

...that's truly horrible.

I've read the first book (as Lima just mentioned) and enjoyed it to a certain extent. But the book HAS to be taken with a grain of salt. Its really over the top. I mean, /half/ the book (at least it felt like half) is devoted to describing Edward's perfection and god-like. I mean, really, gimme a break. But I just rolled my eyes and continued on because the story was entertaining enough to accommodate a fair amount of cheese.

sprout:

Random argument man:
One of my friend's girlfriend is nuts about this "Edward". Apparently, she keeps nagging him why can't you be like Edward. The worst part is, she's not joking.

...that's truly horrible.

I've read the first book and enjoyed it to a certain extent. But the book HAS to be taken with a grain of salt. Its really over the top. I mean, /half/ the book (at least it felt like half) is devoted to describing Edward's perfection and god-like. I mean, really, gimme a break. But I just rolled my eyes and continued on because the story was entertaining enough to accommodate a fair amount of cheese.

I agree of course with the grain of salt... the gf is just falling victim to her fantasies.

He's the standard cheesy love ideal.
He's hot.
Stronger, faster, smarter (he's had eons to learn and know a multitude of things) then the majority of other guys because he's immortal.
He'll always be there. (immortal)
He has the bad boy potential.
...AND HE'S MADLY IN LOVE WITH YOU.

I'd never even heard of it until I saw an advert for it; and after that, I wished I hadn't seen the damn ad in the first place...

No power in Heaven or Earth would get me to buy a ticket to see that...

Interview with the vampire and Bram Stoker's Dracula, the only two vampire movies and books ever done right. Vampires are a difficult thing to write about because vampires are hypotheticly beings who have lived for centuries. So how would they adapt to the ever changeing world? Where would the bodies go? A vampire would have to hide them very well or get rid of them one way or another and after a couple centuries I'm sure they would pile up somewhere and be found and raise questions.If your born in the 15th century, how do you ajust to the bombardment of changes of entering the 20th century? You would also lose your sense of humanity over the years and become something else entirely, unable to relate to the human experiance. Twilight is so flawed in that the vampire is three hundred years old dateing a 15 year old girl, what is it the vampire is falling in love with? Innocence? After three hundred years personally, I would see her as a chocolet milkshake with sprinkles, so why would I date it? Yes we all love our junk food but come on, when was the last time you fell head over heals in love with a bag of potato chips?

asteroth21nox:
Yes we all love our junk food but come on, when was the last time you fell head over heals in love with a bag of potato chips?

Ok, that is hilarious. I definitely agree with you about Interview with a Vampire. I haven't read Dracula but heard it was well done.

Also,I really fought being the one to point this out, the main vampire has 'only' been turned for 80 years. The three hundred year old vampire is his adopted father. The main chick is 17. But you're right. All the things he seems to love about her have to do with her being human... making me wonder what will happen once she becomes a vampire. Which seems inevitable.

I bet if they made a vampire soap opera it's ratings would be off the charts.

Lima:
I bet if they made a vampire soap opera it's ratings would be off the charts.

They made it. It's called True Blood, and sadly, its ratings are decidedly on the charts.

Jordan Deam:

Lima:
I bet if they made a vampire soap opera it's ratings would be off the charts.

They made it. It's called True Blood, and sadly, its ratings are decidedly on the charts.

Yeah I listed that in one of my previous posts but do you think it falls under the category of SOAP OPERA?