BallPtPenTheif:

PatientGrasshopper:
This does sound like Atheist evangelistic. Which makes it pretty much a religion now.

Religions typically aren't defined by what you don't believe. If they were than christians would be atheists for not believing in everybody else's gods.

That is an interesting argument because that is exactly the same one that pantheists said about early Christians. So if Atheism isn't a religion why would they have to recruit pople?

That's just plain silly. I wish it would have happened near me, I could have gotten free pizza, but it's still pretty stupid.

PatientGrasshopper:

BallPtPenTheif:

PatientGrasshopper:
This does sound like Atheist evangelistic. Which makes it pretty much a religion now.

Religions typically aren't defined by what you don't believe. If they were than christians would be atheists for not believing in everybody else's gods.

That is an interesting argument because that is exactly the same one that pantheists said about early Christians. So if Atheism isn't a religion why would they have to recruit pople?

They don't HAVE to, they just do. People like having people around them that think the same way, mind you.

Khell_Sennet:
I know it's a free pizza and all, but do we get to choose where it's from? Or if I denounce more religions can I get stuffed crust?

Only if you get the 2 for 1 "Life has no meaning" deal, with the small coke.

Anarchemitis:

*click*

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:
Well, offering free pizza is much better than murdering people in the name of god.

That was observation number 5 of my original post.

OK, well that was also observation number one of my original post.

CoverYourHead:
Ugh, am I the only atheist that only mentions my religion when people try to convert me with flyers at my door?

Seriously, do whatever you want, just leave me out of it unless I can have something without having to listen to you. If some monks from something showed up at my door offering me food if I embraced their god I'd kindly accept, take the food, and never think about them again.

no your not the only one, there's just the two of us though. I tend to get in shit if I mention it. For example we were doing a thing in relingion class where we had to write down our religion (and do something else that has nothing to do with my example) and when I wrote down I was athiest one of the other kids saw and beat me up and called me a freak. When I told the princible I was being religeosly descrimated againts she said she'd get right on it. Then she asked my religion and when I told her she did fuck all to help

Ace of Spades:

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:
Well, offering free pizza is much better than murdering people in the name of god.

That was observation number 5 of my original post.

OK, well that was also observation number one of my original post.

I only meant to say that I was glad some one agreed. However, I'm an unappreciative bastard and the phrase, "Thank you," can be difficult for me to type.

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:
Well, offering free pizza is much better than murdering people in the name of god.

That was observation number 5 of my original post.

OK, well that was also observation number one of my original post.

I only meant to say that I was glad some one agreed. However, I'm an unappreciative bastard and the phrase, "Thank you," can be difficult for me to type.

Oh, I thought you were accusing me of stealing your idea. Most people I encounter on forums aren't very nice people. You're welcome.

Ace of Spades:

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:
Well, offering free pizza is much better than murdering people in the name of god.

That was observation number 5 of my original post.

OK, well that was also observation number one of my original post.

I only meant to say that I was glad some one agreed. However, I'm an unappreciative bastard and the phrase, "Thank you," can be difficult for me to type.

Oh, I thought you were accusing me of stealing your idea. Most people I encounter on forums aren't very nice people. Your welcome.

It should be "You're welcome." (Just joking! But seriously, get it right)

BS like this is probably why everyone gets on my case because not being affiliated with any religions... -_-;

I think I'll just quietly skulk away from this issue and pretend I'm not in any way similar to the offending party, thankyouverymuch. >>;

Somebody explain to me why people get together because they don't believe in something. That's defining yourself by your belief that something doesn't exist. That's just bizarre.

Susurrus:
Somebody explain to me why people get together because they don't believe in something. That's defining yourself by your belief that something doesn't exist. That's just bizarre.

It's simple really, umm... really simple. People want to be around other people who have similar beliefs, it's the same reason any university society exists.

Susurrus:
Somebody explain to me why people get together because they don't believe in something. That's defining yourself by your belief that something doesn't exist. That's just bizarre.

It's the religion for angsty teens looking for a way to shock their parents.

P.S. I was refering to the "atheists" involved with this incident, not atheists at large-You guys are all right.

SuperFriendBFG:
Science is my religion. I'm also anti-stupid. And the hosts of that even fall into my stupid category.

Agnostic? I generally hold that agnosticism as being the scientific 'religion' as it says 'ok, if god exists, prove it', and 'if god does not exist, also prove it'.

At least, thats how I understand it.

Edit:
On topic; Atheism is, in essence, ok, but these idiot extremists give the whole a bad rep.

Same with every religion (and yes, Atheism is a religion, albeit one based on a negative). Well, maybe not agnostic's, but thats just because we're indecisive buggers! ;)

Ace of Spades:

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:
Well, offering free pizza is much better than murdering people in the name of god.

That was observation number 5 of my original post.

OK, well that was also observation number one of my original post.

I only meant to say that I was glad some one agreed. However, I'm an unappreciative bastard and the phrase, "Thank you," can be difficult for me to type.

Oh, I thought you were accusing me of stealing your idea. Most people I encounter on forums aren't very nice people. You're welcome.

Everything's nice and edited now.

atheism isn't organized as a religon. It's just a group who doesn't belive in god. With in that, they all have their own theories and ideas. Some are Scientific, who follow evolution and The big band, some beleive in reincarnation, some people just don't care, ect.

@ apsham: Right, but how many people are in a society because they don't like football?

Susurrus:
@ apsham: Right, but how many people are in a society because they don't like football?

Perhaps instead of football they like PnP RPG's, there's a society.

Ace of Spades:

Ace of Spades:

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:
Well, offering free pizza is much better than murdering people in the name of god.

That was observation number 5 of my original post.

OK, well that was also observation number one of my original post.

I only meant to say that I was glad some one agreed. However, I'm an unappreciative bastard and the phrase, "Thank you," can be difficult for me to type.

Oh, I thought you were accusing me of stealing your idea. Most people I encounter on forums aren't very nice people. You're welcome.

Everything's nice and edited now.

Well done.

Have a cookie.

PatientGrasshopper:

That is an interesting argument because that is exactly the same one that pantheists said about early Christians. So if Atheism isn't a religion why would they have to recruit pople?

The army recruits people but they aren't a religion. I really don't understand what recruitment has to do with religion.

Much like Unions, people organize and group in order to increase their social presence and gain political leverage. FYI

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:

Ace of Spades:

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:

Beowulf DW:

Ace of Spades:
Well, offering free pizza is much better than murdering people in the name of god.

That was observation number 5 of my original post.

OK, well that was also observation number one of my original post.

I only meant to say that I was glad some one agreed. However, I'm an unappreciative bastard and the phrase, "Thank you," can be difficult for me to type.

Oh, I thought you were accusing me of stealing your idea. Most people I encounter on forums aren't very nice people. You're welcome.

Everything's nice and edited now.

Well done.

Have a cookie.

Yay, cookies!

Right, I appreciate that. Liking PnP is a totally viable alternative. As is, say, believing in the big bang, or God, or whatever. BUT to be an atheist you can hold a number of different beliefs. It just seems kinda odd to join together when you don't necessarily have anything in common but a lack of belief in something.

Added to which, religions have their observances, ceremonies and rituals, for good or bad. Armies have their purposes. What is the point of a society that has no actual purpose? You're attending to do what? Not do anything religious? I mean, I can't imagine they regularly discuss whether big bang or steady state is a more viable alternative..

BallPtPenTheif:

PatientGrasshopper:

That is an interesting argument because that is exactly the same one that pantheists said about early Christians. So if Atheism isn't a religion why would they have to recruit pople?

The army recruits people but they aren't a religion. I really don't understand what recruitment has to do with religion.

Much like Unions, people organize and group in order to increase their social presence and gain political leverage. FYI

True but the army doesn't give you a specific set of beliefs to go by. You do what they say because they say it not because you believe it,even more so with unions.

Eldritch Warlord:

Susurrus:
@ apsham: Right, but how many people are in a society because they don't like football?

Perhaps instead of football they like PnP RPG's, there's a society.

I believe the point he was aiming at was that there is no 'anti-football league'. Whilst many or all PnP RPG groupings might hate football, they do not define themselves as an organization by that hate.

At least, thats the point I think he was making.

Beowulf DW:
3) If Atheism isn't a religion, why the hell are these guys trying to spread their beliefs?

I've also always found this really weird. I'm an atheist, but think being pushy about it is kinda stupid. Its a bit like forming a giant anti-tennis union.

The next time I see someone call atheism a religion I am going to find a way to hurt them over the internet.

Susurrus:
@ apsham: Right, but how many people are in a society because they don't like football?

...you don't really get Atheism, do you? By your logic, a Christian society was formed... because they don't like Atheism.

Marbas:
The next time I see someone call atheism a religion I am going to find a way to hurt them over the internet.

In the words of one famous quote, "I'll be rich and famous when I invent a way to stab people over the internet" ;)

Marbas:
The next time I see someone call atheism a religion I am going to find a way to hurt them over the internet.

this sounds exciting.... atheism is a religion :D

Just wondering... what else would you call a group of people that often congregate and talk about spirituality? (or lack there of?)

EXPLICITasian:

Marbas:
The next time I see someone call atheism a religion I am going to find a way to hurt them over the internet.

this sounds exciting.... atheism is a religion :D

Just wondering... what else would you call a group of people that often congregate and talk about spirituality? (or lack there of?)

Well, while there is the EAC and we do indeed congregate, our talks are mostly about global domination and how best to serve Satan in denial of Christ. That or humanity's next steps in Evilution so that we can move on to dominate everything, every one, and ram the galaxy into another galaxy.

Just 'cause.

Atheism as a whole does not state the need for congregation. People can gather to talk about it, if they wish but people can gather to talk about football if they wish as well. Doesn't make it a religion. Atheism and Atheists are in conflict with with established religion, therefore, Atheists are the exact opposite of religion.

Free Holiday For Atheists!

Just say you're a Christian and you get December 25th off work!

:)

Just wondering... what else would you call a group of people that often congregate and talk about spirituality? (or lack there of?)

The lack thereof is the key distinction of course. I would call them atheists AND a group of people who are defining themselves via opposition to other parts of society.