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Copy Clerk
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What we really need to worry about is the government taking our guns! Obama and Biden are the dynamic duo of gun control and prohibition! Don't let the man fool you, and don't shrug it off either.. it happened in the UK and in Australia, and it can happen here if we let it! Tyranny is a few well targeted pieces of legislation away!

EDIT: Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_YTM_eAWnQ

Infamous Scribbler
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....calm down, you sound like a redneck.

Gone Gonzo
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AntiThom:
What we really need to worry about is the government taking our guns! Obama and Biden are the dynamic duo of gun control and prohibition! Don't let the man fool you, and don't shrug it off either.. it happened in the UK and in Australia, and it can happen here if we let it! Tyranny is a few well targeted pieces of legislation away!

Well that's stupid. It's well documented that guns just get you into more trouble during a zombie apocalypse. Disappointing.

Also, taking guns out of the hands of the population radically decreases their ability to kill each other. Something Americans haven't twigged yet.

Gone Gonzo
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Good, you americans cannot even be trusted to handle vegetable peelers. You do not deserve firearms. However on the other hand it is your access to guns that helps keep your population in check thus preventing your stupidity from overrunning the world... come to think of it most americans have the same IQ, gait, smell, volcabulary and voracious appetite as the living dead... *flee*

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avykins:
Good, you americans cannot even be trusted to handle vegetable peelers. You do not deserve firearms. However on the other hand it is your access to guns that helps keep your population in check thus preventing your stupidity from overrunning the world... come to think of it most americans have the same IQ, gait, smell, volcabulary and voracious appetite as the living dead... *flee*

i find that... slightly offensive. im american, i have an iq of 125.
i have to say that its just the loudmouth retards that make us all look bad.

Gone Gonzo
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The second we stop worrying about the zombies is the second it happens!!

Kids, be prepared to kill your parents, otherwise they will eat you brain ;)

Copy Clerk
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rossatdi:

Also, taking guns out of the hands of the population radically decreases their ability to kill each other. Something Americans haven't twigged yet.

WRONG. Gun Control in areas has provennot only to INCREASE violent crimes, but even GUN crimes in general. Why? That's because criminals don't obey laws, dipshit. And taking guns away from law-abiding citizens only makes them easier targets for said criminals. It's a proven fact, wise up.

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DamienHell:
....calm down, you sound like a redneck.

Yeah, what he said

Copy Clerk
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DamienHell:
....calm down, you sound like a redneck.

I'm not a redneck I'm just motivated. And I speak the truth. The Clinton "Assault" weapons ban already showed that congressional dems are willing to ban a weapon based on it's looks alone, all functionality aside.

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AntiThom:

rossatdi:

Also, taking guns out of the hands of the population radically decreases their ability to kill each other. Something Americans haven't twigged yet.

WRONG. Gun Control in areas has provennot only to INCREASE violent crimes, but even GUN crimes in general. Why? That's because criminals don't obey laws, dipshit. And taking guns away from law-abiding citizens only makes them easier targets for said criminals. It's a proven fact, wise up.

And giving guns to innocent people often makes those same people do stupid shit because they have a gun. More guns, more shootings... you wise up.

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Gone Gonzo
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rossatdi:
Also, taking guns out of the hands of the population radically decreases their ability to kill each other. Something Americans haven't twigged yet.

I love you.

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AntiThom:

rossatdi:

Also, taking guns out of the hands of the population radically decreases their ability to kill each other. Something Americans haven't twigged yet.

WRONG. Gun Control in areas has provennot only to INCREASE violent crimes, but even GUN crimes in general. Why? That's because criminals don't obey laws, dipshit. And taking guns away from law-abiding citizens only makes them easier targets for said criminals. It's a proven fact, wise up.

While I may not share his zeal, AntiThom has a point. In Canada, you have to jump through plenty of hoops to get fire-arms (WAY less then the States), and we still have plenty of gun crime. Heck, a few years ago was dubbed 'Year of the Gun'.

If anything, laws should be tougher on gun-toting criminals.
Guns are here to stay, like them or not.

Gone Gonzo
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AntiThom:

rossatdi:

Also, taking guns out of the hands of the population radically decreases their ability to kill each other. Something Americans haven't twigged yet.

WRONG. Gun Control in areas has provennot only to INCREASE violent crimes, but even GUN crimes in general. Why? That's because criminals don't obey laws, dipshit. And taking guns away from law-abiding citizens only makes them easier targets for said criminals. It's a proven fact, wise up.

Calm down. You sound like the last person I'd want to have a gun. Also, how many cases of home owners fighting off hordes of gun armed raiders have you heard about in the last month. This isn't the wild west and it's not the apocalypse.

Map of homicide rates, darker = higher. Note the USA's darker shade.

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AntiThom:

rossatdi:

Also, taking guns out of the hands of the population radically decreases their ability to kill each other. Something Americans haven't twigged yet.

WRONG. Gun Control in areas has provennot only to INCREASE violent crimes, but even GUN crimes in general. Why? That's because criminals don't obey laws, dipshit. And taking guns away from law-abiding citizens only makes them easier targets for said criminals. It's a proven fact, wise up.

i get what you mean about taking citizen guns away making them easier targets (i might want to improve my grammar later XD)
but its still pretty dangerous to have guns >_< cant they make a law so anyone seen with a gun is arrested, and just have them for home protection, kept in the home? :P

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fix-the-spade:

rossatdi:
Also, taking guns out of the hands of the population radically decreases their ability to kill each other. Something Americans haven't twigged yet.

I love you.

You're a little young, and male, for my tastes but I always like compliments.

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Fightgarr:

AntiThom:

rossatdi:

Also, taking guns out of the hands of the population radically decreases their ability to kill each other. Something Americans haven't twigged yet.

WRONG. Gun Control in areas has provennot only to INCREASE violent crimes, but even GUN crimes in general. Why? That's because criminals don't obey laws, dipshit. And taking guns away from law-abiding citizens only makes them easier targets for said criminals. It's a proven fact, wise up.

And giving guns to innocent people often makes those same people do stupid shit because they have a gun. More guns, more shootings... you wise up.

Again, you are WRONG. I didn't know that personal opinions were always facts. I don't refer to myself as an "innocent person" more like a "citizen". AND 80 MILLION citizens legally own firearms here in the U.S., out of which less than 1% use those guns in a crime. It's the criminals, with thier illegally obtained handguns that are causing the problems here.

Gone Gonzo
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AntiThom:
Again, you are WRONG. I didn't know that personal opinions were always facts. I don't refer to myself as an "innocent person" more like a "citizen". AND 80 MILLION citizens legally own firearms here in the U.S., out of which less than 1% use those guns in a crime. It's the criminals, with thier illegally obtained handguns that are causing the problems here.

Let me guess...the only way he can be RIGHT is if he agrees with you completely, ignorantly and blindly so?

For you're own benefit I'll let you know that you a tad closed minded...might want to look into that...

OH and your post there is FULL of irony in that first bit...

Gone Gonzo
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AntiThom:

Again, you are WRONG. I didn't know that personal opinions were always facts. I don't refer to myself as an "innocent person" more like a "citizen". AND 80 MILLION citizens legally own firearms here in the U.S., out of which less than 1% use those guns in a crime. It's the criminals, with thier illegally obtained handguns that are causing the problems here.

BOLD FOR NO REASON The problem is criminals in general. Giving them tools, directly or indirectly, that can very easily kill someone is not a smart move is it?

Also most murders are by an acquaintance rather than random criminal activity. It is much more likely that-guy-you-kind-of-know will kill you than THE-EVIL-CRACK-ADDICT.

Gone Gonzo
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Also, I'm leaving before this gets too heated. Leaving work that is. I'll be back to refute AntiThom's tired NRA propaganda in a bit.

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AntiThom:

Again, you are WRONG.

On se calme.

Indirect Translation:

Don't flame. (This goes for both)

Gone Gonzo
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AntiThom:
I don't refer to myself as an "innocent person"

So you're a criminal?

Copy Clerk
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I think we need fewer guns in this country, even the smart americans don't know what to do with the damn things.

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rossatdi:

AntiThom:

rossatdi:

Also, taking guns out of the hands of the population radically decreases their ability to kill each other. Something Americans haven't twigged yet.

WRONG. Gun Control in areas has provennot only to INCREASE violent crimes, but even GUN crimes in general. Why? That's because criminals don't obey laws, dipshit. And taking guns away from law-abiding citizens only makes them easier targets for said criminals. It's a proven fact, wise up.

Calm down. You sound like the last person I'd want to have a gun. Also, how many cases of home owners fighting off hordes of gun armed raiders have you heard about in the last month. This isn't the wild west and it's not the apocalypse.

Map of homicide rates, darker = higher. Note the USA's darker shade.

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instead of banning guns altogether ( a useless move) the government should instead move to regulate handguns and assualt weapons. nobody has any use for assualt weapons, and handguns are the cause of an absurd amount of gun accidents.
long guns are fine for hunting, and hunting only.
the constitution does not guarentee a right to assualt weapons, or even guns in general. it means for "a well-regulated militia" known in the US as the National Guard.

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Weapons in general should be prohibited.

-Ricky

Copy Clerk
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rossatdi:

Calm down. You sound like the last person I'd want to have a gun. Also, how many cases of home owners fighting off hordes of gun armed raiders have you heard about in the last month. This isn't the wild west and it's not the apocalypse.

Well then you'd be glad to know that I own 13 firearms, and I've got another one soon to come. I've never had to use any of them in a self defense scenario, and honestly I hope I'll never have to. There's more to the right to bear arms than hunting, sport shooting and self defense, I feel people have forgotten that, you've all been desensitized by modern times. Just don't forget that people will always be people, and that's something not to take lightly.

oh and check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_YTM_eAWnQ

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AntiThom:

DamienHell:
....calm down, you sound like a redneck.

I'm not a redneck I'm just motivated. And I speak the truth. The Clinton "Assault" weapons ban already showed that congressional dems are willing to ban a weapon based on it's looks alone, all functionality aside.

No guns = good.

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AntiThom:
Gun Control in areas has provennot only to INCREASE violent crimes, but even GUN crimes in general. Why? That's because criminals don't obey laws, dipshit. And taking guns away from law-abiding citizens only makes them easier targets for said criminals. It's a proven fact, wise up.

Funny you should say that because according to offical figures the murder rate in the US is 200 times greater than in Japan. In Japan no private citizen can buy a handgun legally.

Also, just because a citizen is 'law-abiding' doesn't mean they are incapable of murder - the majority of murders are so called 'passion killers' who just get so enraged they end up killing someone out of heat of the moment. Anyone, law-abiding or not, can do this; taking away guns prevents this from happening, naturally. There was a case where a police sheriff (more than just a respectable citizen, I'm sure) ended up shooting his family out of heat of the moment.

I live in the UK where we aren't allowed to buy guns without a proper license and I am very glad of that fact; our police officers aren't given guns either (with the exception of the armed response units, obviously).

And avykins, that's an awfully big brush you're using there.

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curlycrouton:

AntiThom:
I don't refer to myself as an "innocent person"

So you're a criminal?

I also don't take people's words out of context, I mean to say (as I did) that I refer to myself as a citizen and not just another person, it's pride.

Gone Gonzo
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AntiThom:
What we really need to worry about is the government taking our guns! Obama and Biden are the dynamic duo of gun control and prohibition! Don't let the man fool you, and don't shrug it off either.. it happened in the UK and in Australia, and it can happen here if we let it! Tyranny is a few well targeted pieces of legislation away!

Ok, someone get this guy some banjo. Gun control stops people getting the guns in the first place. Yes bad people can get them but it makes it even harder to get them.

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RetiarySword:

AntiThom:
What we really need to worry about is the government taking our guns! Obama and Biden are the dynamic duo of gun control and prohibition! Don't let the man fool you, and don't shrug it off either.. it happened in the UK and in Australia, and it can happen here if we let it! Tyranny is a few well targeted pieces of legislation away!

Ok, someone get this guy some banjo. Gun control stops people getting the guns in the first place. Yes bad people can get them but it makes it even harder to get them.

HAR HAR. A law will not stop a criminal, that's kind of why they are CRIMINALS.

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"No guns = good."

That's the most naive comment I have ever heard! The UNDENIABLE FACT is that THE BAD, CRIMAL GUYS will be using guns and the such to hurt their victims right? So, by taking away the basal right to bear arms you are leaving civilians totally open to be the victims of the gun-wielding criminals who prey on the weak.

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AntiThom:

rossatdi:

Calm down. You sound like the last person I'd want to have a gun. Also, how many cases of home owners fighting off hordes of gun armed raiders have you heard about in the last month. This isn't the wild west and it's not the apocalypse.

Well then you'd be glad to know that I own 13 firearms, and I've got another one soon to come. I've never had to use any of them in a self defense scenario, and honestly I hope I'll never have to. There's more to the right to bear arms than hunting, sport shooting and self defense, I feel people have forgotten that, you've all been desensitized by modern times. Just don't forget that people will always be people, and that's something not to take lightly.

oh and check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_YTM_eAWnQ

I'm also glad I live in the UK. Where the NRA doesn't make up a political lobby.

Desensitized to what? Gun ownership was never particularly big thing in the UK. I get hunting with a rifle but what is the point of owning a handgun or an assault rifle. Those things are designed to kill people. Only.

Also, you need to watch your tone or the banhammer of common decency might get swung your way. This forum is about the free, courteous, exchange of ideas. We know you're from florida but that doesn't mean you have to act like a stereotype.

I'll check the video out when I get home, I'm sure it's hilariously poor journalism at its best.

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Never mind this comment I'm trying to get used to the forum system here.

Gone Gonzo
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AntiThom:

RetiarySword:

AntiThom:
What we really need to worry about is the government taking our guns! Obama and Biden are the dynamic duo of gun control and prohibition! Don't let the man fool you, and don't shrug it off either.. it happened in the UK and in Australia, and it can happen here if we let it! Tyranny is a few well targeted pieces of legislation away!

Ok, someone get this guy some banjo. Gun control stops people getting the guns in the first place. Yes bad people can get them but it makes it even harder to get them.

HAR HAR. A law will not stop a criminal, that's kind of why they are CRIMINALS.

A law won't stop a criminal, but it makes their job harder. How many people from the UK know anyone who could supply you with anything liek a pistol. Shotguns farmers have, air rifles a few people have them but not a fucking semi-auto pistol! In your country most people have guns under their pillows. I've never seen an illegal gun in my life. The fact that I havn't sort of proves it works.

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