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Pulitzer Laureate
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I'm not a fan of the Mac adverts, then again i'm not their target audience.
Note: I am going on about the adverts. NOT the mac users.
The target audience of the Mac ads are those who know fuck all.
I say this because the advert itself right off the bat assumes that the person knows nothing by the opening line:
"Hello I'm a Mac, and I'm a PC" The person who knows fuck all would think that a PC is another operating system and not a term to describe and not the computer itself
The advert then goes to state a flaw with the "PC" while in turn making the Mac look brilliant. To someone who knows what they're doing a lot of the flaws such as the viruses, the BSOD, etc can be dealt with. However if you know fuck all it puts you off.

so yeah there's my reason.

Copy Clerk
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The mac ads piss me off as as where I work almost all are mac owners what is fair enough as not gamers and uni students so mainly used for browsing and papers but as only PC gamer (rest have only 360's and say are superior to PC's but not get into that.) But any anyone goes on about macs or iphone or ipod get same bull every f****** time what said on the ad's.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lgzbhEc6VVo
just quick goggle and found the 15 things I hear every time macs mentioned anyone up to playing find the faults in macs logic so use it against collages as my reasons just don't shut them up? -_-

Copy Clerk
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I the the Mac OS package is quite well done but its 'user friendliness' comes down to its limitations

its like saying a harmonica is a better instrument then a piano because its easier to use

Press Junketeer
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y8c616:
I think they're ace!!! I like how they poke fun at all of windows bad points and bigs up Mac's OS. In fairness, macs are better for 'creative' things such as music and video production, etc. Windows are optimized for office and games. Macs can do all a windows pc can do because of the dual OS software, but not vice versa. Therefore i think the ads are not only funny, but true. If a tad annoying. I hate, however, how the new windows ads are a complete ripoff of the mac ads.

Wow a non-hater :)
Thats good to see.
I'd like to see how many of these PC owners actually have used a mac instead of calling it retarded when the word Mac pops onto the screen.

Gone Gonzo
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The commercials are about as polite as some of their users. I'm in the graphic/web design field and if this is ever spoken in the presence of a mac user, they go on a rant about how I I should have a mac because of superior bla bla. I say the same thing every time, "To each their own, I like PCs, you like macs, what's to argue about". There's not much to argue about in my mind, both systems have their own benefits and problems, honestly why should anyone care what the other person uses?

Unless of course it's a console and you wanted to play the game with your friend online, then you can complain and rant.

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Eggo:
You know what's strange? I spent almost 20 times less on my gaming/audio PC at home compared to the Mac Pro I use at work every day and...I greatly prefer my home PC for recording music, creating media, hell, doing everything compared to the Mac Pro I use at work.

Just goes to show it all boils down to preference and intelligence.

I use both too and completely agree. Whenever I Photoshop/record/edit/anything on my PC (a pretty high end machine) it usually takes a second or two to accomplish any task. I fail to see the logic in paying more for a machine which does it in the same time (or slower) and has a crappier interface. And one mouse button. Whats the difference in waiting a second for something to process instead of a second and a half? Most people champion stats that only result in an imperceivable amount of computing time anyway, which is fucking retarded.

EDiT: Oh and the Mac ads are annoying. The PC ones are just as bad.

Pulitzer Laureate
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i think the mac ads are kinda dumb, but the windows ads (like the incomprehensible ones with jerry seinfeld) are much, much worse.
personally, i like the mac for doing all my computer work and internet stuff. i use a windows for gaming and...thats pretty much it. i find it too hard to do anything else with them...it really doesn't matter what your computer CAN do...what matters is what you can do with it.

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Zeldadudes:

I'd like to see how many of these PC owners actually have used a mac instead of calling it retarded when the word Mac pops onto the screen.

I'd like to see a mac owner who knows what they're talking about and aren't just another sucker for a crappy marketing campaign. But we cant all get what we want.

Gone Gonzo
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y8c616:
First of all, my shitty WINDOWS computer fucked up( wish i had a mac now) and secondly, no i don't, but i know plenty of professionals who have worked in various studios for years, most of which will be running a mac pro setup, either with pro tools or logic software.

I assume that it was a PEBKAC error, right?

Paperboy
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Quick would you buy: A)PC ,B)MAC or C)Toaster?

Gone Gonzo
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They're operating systems, not religions.

Just for fun... Ubuntu is the best!!!

Anonymous Source
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See... the only once Windows gave me a BSOD and it was purely my fault (switched to a Nividia card and didnt rid of all the ATI files), not once has vista crashed on me or my cousin, so i dont know what mac commercials are smoking, secondly all OS tend to be shit when they come out, due to not enough hardware for it... heres a tip if it crashes on you get a completely new computer, oh shit didnt we have to do that for XP, yes we did... because older stuff wont support, stuff that never existed at the time...

I just loled (Warning not for Mac Lovers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig1qtduR9ik
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7148748849652085555

NO OS is problem free, stop treating it like god, they will crash, and most the time its most likely "your" fault

cant we all get along like these guys?
http://tv.truenuff.com/mac/networking.php

Press Junketeer
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Zac_Dai:
They're operating systems, not religions.

Just for fun... Ubuntu is the best!!!

Heresy! Cleanse it with fire!

Press Junketeer
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gibboss28:

Zeldadudes:

I'd like to see how many of these PC owners actually have used a mac instead of calling it retarded when the word Mac pops onto the screen.

I'd like to see a mac owner who knows what they're talking about and aren't just another sucker for a crappy marketing campaign. But we cant all get what we want.

Give me an example and i'll read your statement with more enthusiasm.
I brought a mac because i needed a piece of software...

Muckraker
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The commercials don't say "On a PC it's like this, but on a Mac, it's like this, which is better." They just say "PCs are gay. Buy a mac."

They don't actually make their product sound good they just talk shit about their competition. It's the same level as ignorance as a political smear campaign.

Anonymous Source
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I am a moderate on the whole Mac vs. PC thing. Both have good and both have bad.

Infamous Scribbler
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OH I just saw a new one, PC and Mac are putting lights on a tree. Mac makes a comment about how they can set their differences aside and be friends. But when they plug in the lights PC has put "PC rules" in the lights. SO! Mac is talking about PC and Mac putting their differences aside and being friends, IN AN ANTI-PC COMMERCIAL! What hypocricy!

Muckraker
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O wait...
no games.

that's why I didn't get one.
(though I heard about the new Mac, and possible future Macs that actually run PC games)

Gone Gonzo
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Nimbus:

y8c616:
First of all, my shitty WINDOWS computer fucked up( wish i had a mac now) and secondly, no i don't, but i know plenty of professionals who have worked in various studios for years, most of which will be running a mac pro setup, either with pro tools or logic software.

I assume that it was a PEBKAC error, right?

More like an I.D.10.T error.

Gone Gonzo
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DO NOT ACTUALLY TYPE THE CONTENTS OF THE SPOILER INTO YOUR TERMINAL WINDOW!!!!!

The fact of the matter is that Macs are now a fad to any person in college who has used a PC all of their life. It doesn't matter if you say you think it is better than a PC or not, the reason you bought that computer was simply because it is 'hip' right now. Sure, you may like that it has no learning curve to it. hell, I'll agree with you on that point. What I would love to do is have one of these Mac users I referred to above open Terminal and type in four simple keystrokes:

That would solve a whole lot in my opinion.

I warned you!!! I did!!

Gone Gonzo
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Aries_Split:

Nimbus:

y8c616:
First of all, my shitty WINDOWS computer fucked up( wish i had a mac now) and secondly, no i don't, but i know plenty of professionals who have worked in various studios for years, most of which will be running a mac pro setup, either with pro tools or logic software.

I assume that it was a PEBKAC error, right?

More like an I.D.10.T error.

Yeah, it could have been that, but from what he's telling us it was most likely a layer-8 issue of some sort.

Infamous Scribbler
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corporate_gamer:
There not as bad as the new microsoft "i'm a pc" adverts.

I'm a pc, and I'm desperately trying to convince people I'm down with it

You can't exactly blame them for that, after the moronic bashing the Apple ads gave them.
Personally I find the adverts humerous, the blatant ignorance makes me chuckle.
I was once in my younger days almost swayed by macs, but my friend pointed out to me that PC's are infinetly better for gaming. That, and I went to an Apple Store to try one out, and I could not get used to the UI at all. Thats just personal taste, though.

I tend to side with PC's in the flame war, I'm sick of the outlandish snobbery that some people can carry about Macs. I have my qualms with Vista (that annoying administrator thing it throws at you whenever you try to do anything for a start), but its still the only OS for me.

Gone Gonzo
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The Mac commercials don't particularly bother me, but then again I'm part of the hipster artist crowd, using a Macbook Pro myself.

What I really don't like are the new Windows commercials.

You're a PC and you... Sell fish. Fascinating. Makes me want to buy one right now.

Either way, everyone picks a side, and in the end we're either satisfied with our choice or we move on to another one.

BANNED
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Michael_McCloud:
The Mac commercials don't particularly bother me, but then again I'm part of the hipster artist crowd, using a Macbook Pro myself.

What I really don't like are the new Windows commercials.

You're a PC and you... Sell fish. Fascinating. Makes me want to buy one right now.

Yeah, Microsoft's 90% market share is really lacking without one more non-conforming conformist hipster artist :p

Microsoft has already won; this sort of cultural marketing has nothing to do with trying to attract a small limp-wristed demographic which owns turtlenecks and can't hold a job. It's there to be funny and positive.

I can't say the same for Apple's recent marketing efforts.

Gone Gonzo
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Eggo:

Michael_McCloud:
The Mac commercials don't particularly bother me, but then again I'm part of the hipster artist crowd, using a Macbook Pro myself.

What I really don't like are the new Windows commercials.

You're a PC and you... Sell fish. Fascinating. Makes me want to buy one right now.

Yeah, Microsoft's 90% market share is really lacking without one more non-conforming conformist hipster artist :p

Microsoft has already won; this sort of cultural marketing has nothing to do with trying to attract a small limp-wristed demographic which owns turtlenecks and can't hold a job. It's there to be funny and positive.

I'm not saying it's not funny, It just doesn't seem to appeal to me in any way. So what if some fisherman in west Timbuktu uses Windows? I want a better reason than "Everybody else is doing it" to side with a company. Like, I dunno, the specs of it all, whether or not I'll have to worry about viruses and anti-spyware programs clogging up the processor. Honestly, even if a guy with a beret, goatee, and a set of bongos showed up and said "I'm a PC", I still wouldn't have given a damn. Likewise, if a fisherman took the place of the cool artist stereotype man, I honestly wouldn't have cared, so long as the fisherman brought the same points across.

In short, the quirky good-natured atmosphere of the commercials isn't what bothers me. What bothers me is that their only selling point (apart from parental control, it seems) is "Hey, look at who all is using our computers! Isn't that great? You should buy one now!"

And even if I hated both commercials, I was raised on OS 9. I was born with a Safari in my hand.

Gone Gonzo
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Zeldadudes:

y8c616:
I think they're ace!!! I like how they poke fun at all of windows bad points and bigs up Mac's OS. In fairness, macs are better for 'creative' things such as music and video production, etc. Windows are optimized for office and games. Macs can do all a windows pc can do because of the dual OS software, but not vice versa. Therefore i think the ads are not only funny, but true. If a tad annoying. I hate, however, how the new windows ads are a complete ripoff of the mac ads.

Wow a non-hater :)
Thats good to see.
I'd like to see how many of these PC owners actually have used a mac instead of calling it retarded when the word Mac pops onto the screen.

I have, it was a reliable system, and if people want to spend their money on macs then that is fine, but that does not mean that Macintosh has to bash windows.

Gone Gonzo
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I do hate the Mac ads, but Microsoft responded to them really well with their PC ad.

Gone Gonzo
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Mac: Hey PC, what're you doing?
PC: Playing a game.
Mac: Oh, which one?
PC: Any.
Mac: Oh...

Gone Gonzo
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Gxas:
DO NOT ACTUALLY TYPE THE CONTENTS OF THE SPOILER INTO YOUR TERMINAL WINDOW!!!!!

The fact of the matter is that Macs are now a fad to any person in college who has used a PC all of their life. It doesn't matter if you say you think it is better than a PC or not, the reason you bought that computer was simply because it is 'hip' right now. Sure, you may like that it has no learning curve to it. hell, I'll agree with you on that point. What I would love to do is have one of these Mac users I referred to above open Terminal and type in four simple keystrokes:

That would solve a whole lot in my opinion.

I warned you!!! I did!!

rm*, is that for "reset memory"?

Gone Gonzo
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Bored Tomatoe:

rm*, is that for "reset memory"?

It stands for "remove *". The * is basically a wildcard. It stands for anything. (Java, here goes) Say you wanted to import a java utility into your program code but found out you needed more than one. Instead of typing "import java.util.(whatever utility)" and the other utilities you wanted to import, you'd simply put "import java.util.*" and import all of the utilities at once. So saying "remove *" you will remove each and every file/program/etc on your machine with no real way of recovering it all because Unix will pretty much be inoperable. That's the way my Comp. Sci. prof. put it at least. I haven't seen it in action, but he has and I trust him.

Gone Gonzo
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Gxas:

Bored Tomatoe:

rm*, is that for "reset memory"?

It stands for "remove *". The * is basically a wildcard. It stands for anything. (Java, here goes) Say you wanted to import a java utility into your program code but found out you needed more than one. Instead of typing "import java.util.(whatever utility)" and the other utilities you wanted to import, you'd simply put "import java.util.*" and import all of the utilities at once. So saying "remove *" you will remove each and every file/program/etc on your machine with no real way of recovering it all because Unix will pretty much be inoperable. That's the way my Comp. Sci. prof. put it at least. I haven't seen it in action, but he has and I trust him.

Ok, so its a way of software-frying a mac?

Copy Clerk
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Nothing worse than ads by either, mac, at&t, Lottery. ugh

Gone Gonzo
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Bored Tomatoe:

Ok, so its a way of software-frying a mac?

Yes. The perfect practical joke for a 'hip mac user' with tons of money.

Gone Gonzo
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y8c616:

Eggo:

y8c616:
I think they're ace!!! I like how they poke fun at all of windows bad points and bigs up Mac's OS. In fairness, macs are better for 'creative' things such as music and video production, etc. Windows are optimized for office and games. Macs can do all a windows pc can do because of the dual OS software, but not vice versa. Therefore i think the ads are not only funny, but true. If a tad annoying. I hate, however, how the new windows ads are a complete ripoff of the mac ads.

You know what's a tad annoying?

People who don't know what they're talking about and constantly saying "macs are better for 'creative' things such as music and video production.'"

That is a tad annoying.

Well why do most professionals in the music and video production professions use macs?
Hmmm... must be coincidential

Actually, it is coincidental. You can do everything you want in the "Creative" department on a PC perfectly fine. Mac's are generally "out of the box" setup and ready to go, and most musicians aren't computer savvy enough or don't want to go through the trouble of building their own rigs. Some also fear virus's or are simply following a trend. But to say that a Mac is better for "Creative" things is just not true.

Gone Gonzo
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Gxas:

Bored Tomatoe:

Ok, so its a way of software-frying a mac?

Yes. The perfect practical joke for a 'hip mac user' with tons of money.

I need to remember this. It might come in handy later.

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