I like a villain whose motivation is kept secret. The G-man from Half Life 2 is my favorite villain, and I still have no idea why he keeps messing with the situation that humanity is going through. He did say that "it will all make sense in the course of, well... I'm really not at liberty to say. In the meantime, this is where I get off". I really can't wait to see the ending to the half life series.

I picked the mother one, because atleast it gives some sort of logic, instead of "I'M EVIL!"

I do it for the lulz.

*ahem*

Because sometimes its good to be bad. Dungeon Keeper taught me that lesson.

Cali, dear. You're still ignoring the point. There are people out there that do things they know are wrong. There are other people out there with no moral compass whatsoever, to which every action is only a risk/gain ratio.

In my example the thief didn't have to steal, it was just more convinient. There are people like that.

There are people to whom human life is just a statistic, and money is another one. They know killing is wrong, but as long as it nets them money, that's okay, screw the rest.

They don't think they're doing the right thing. They know they're doing something immoral. You're talking about normal people. People that aren't screwed up, and whose intentions are in the right place. You're talking about people with a moral compass. There are both people without a moral compass whatsoever (psychopaths for example, and some other disabilities) and people who just don't give a damn.

Then there's also the people who believe their own satisfaction from something normal society considers wrong is more important than doing what's right. A rapist doesn't believe that raping someone is the right thing to do, or that it's not wrong. That it's wrong becomes secondary. It's not the best thing to do at the time, it's just more pleasurable than not doing it. The same logic could be applied to people cheating on their spouses or partners. Sure, they know it's wrong, they know it's not necessary, but it's exciting, and fun. And that becomes more important.

That's two different examples of setting morals aside. In the second example because what's right or wrong is secondary to other things. In the first example because morals just aren't important enough.

I'd hate to burst your bubble. If you want to keep believing everyone, especially in both RL and fiction, is a nice person that always tries to do the right thing, then sure. Keep it up. Just watch out becase there's some really fucked up people out there who couldn't care less if they're doing something wrong. And if they're smart enough to KNOW they're doing something wrong, they're even worse.

I won't respond anymore. I've made my points clear enough already. And whatever you may want to believe doesn't really matter, on this subject. This isn't personal beliefs we're debating.

YOU STOLED MY HAMBURG0R!

I did it for my crowbar badge... and I'd do it all again in an instant I tell you!
In an instant!

"He started it..."

insanelich:

wewontdie11:
Not sure why but I just prefer it when villains are evil simply because that's the way they are. No real inspiration they naturally just want to be evil or are completely psychotic. Adds to the villainy in their character through the lack of rationality I think.

I don't think you know what psychotic means.

... well that was random. Psychosis is generally a mental disorder when somebody has a very poor grip on reality resulting in mental derangement.

Mental illness in different variations is always fun. Psychosis can be among the more interesting ones, but it takes a DAMN good writer to do it. Most people just come up with something really boring when they try.

wewontdie11:

insanelich:

wewontdie11:
Not sure why but I just prefer it when villains are evil simply because that's the way they are. No real inspiration they naturally just want to be evil or are completely psychotic. Adds to the villainy in their character through the lack of rationality I think.

I don't think you know what psychotic means.

... well that was random. Psychosis is generally a mental disorder when somebody has a very poor grip on reality resulting in mental derangement.

First part right, it indeed is a poor grip on reality. Resulting in mental derangement? Both archaic and completely wrong.

You're already insane if you experience psychosis.

More importantly, it doesn't result in "evil" behavior more often than other mental disorders do. The chances are you're a kook yelling on a soapbox much more likely than you're a villain. Psychopathy, accurately summarized as "a lack of conscience", is a much better way to explain "evil", even though it makes for utterly boring villains.

I play evil. Always. Maybe it has something to do with for years and years in gaming we were never even given the option. We always played the hero. But mostly it's just me. As a kid I always rooted for Cobra over GI Joe....or Darth Vader over Luke. Good is too boring for me. Plus KotOR spoiled me to always want that choice.

I don''t know.

I just woke up and said, "Hey, villainy would be mighty swell to try out."

They canceled Futurama

Because it's just too much damned fun.

Can being-able-to-beat-people-with-a-stunstick-and-finding-it-fun be considered as ultimate power? If yes, then that.

Etrius_the_seraphim:
O.O this whole thred is a reched hive of scum and villany *nukes the thred*

See the problem with what you just did is you did the classic mistake all "goody two shoes" do. You say a little speech and you attack and walk away thinking you've defeated the villain. This thread is too evil to be destroyed by your measly nuke.

*Laughs maniacally... pauses for the other posters to laugh along with him* (You better laugh with me or there will be hell to pay!)

Because if someone says "You can't do that!" you don't have to listen or care.

I make it comical.

Premise 1: I could be a successful hero or villain
Premise 2: All hero's are shunned my the public
Premise 3: A successful villain can become rich
QED I would be a villian because it sucks less than the alternative

Edit:The world will never know who has killed all the worlds puppies and robbed every major company except the snowcone industry HAHAHA

Ever played Dungeon Keeper 2? "It's good to be bad"

Jursa:
Ever played Dungeon Keeper 2? "It's good to be bad"

I concur

xitel:

Flying-Emu:

Aardvark:
I'm only a villain because holding countries to ransom with orbital superweapons is an easier route into power than democracy.

This.

But my superweapon is located in a basement and is just a multicolored death ray.

Multicolored? Are you sure that's not just a laser light show?

Do not question my want to introduce Laser Floyd to Middle-Eastern countries, mortal.

Working in retail. ;)

wheres "because it's too damn fun"

I kill cause BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD...SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE...AND BADGES CAUSE KHORNE LIKES THOSE TOO.

On a more serious not however I would probably be evil for revenge, or power...

stompy:

As for me, it'd be power. Why do I want power? Power leads to knowledge. Knowledge leads to divinity. You can see where I'm going with this...

because of that. Or if you paid me enough.

Also, I like villains I can sympathise with, ones that have a back story and a reason for being the way they are. Or ones that see themselves as the good guys and are not evil from malice but from perspective.

Ultimate power. It's all a real villain wants. They can say they just do it because it's fun but that is ultimate power. You just do what you want.

It's the same like sefless actions. There is no such thing. Everything you do is because somehow you get better for it.

Aiden Rebirth:
the devil made me do it...

why doese everyone blame dante? he not that bad of s guy.

Best Excuse?
I play world of warcraft

Who needs an excuse? Villains have 10 times more fun, can kill anyone they don't like, do anything they want and basically have ultimate power up until the point a young child heralded as a prophet savior comes along and accidentally trips over and sticks a knife if your back.

But even if you die young, its always best to be evil. I'd rather rule for a day with ultimate power than spent a lifetime as someone normal.

Humanity has become too corrupt, so I will drown them in their own evil! Evil for Evil's sake villains are really the kind you can hate.
King Einon in Dragonheart. now there was a monster! Kara tells him to release her father so he shoots an arrow through his heart. "Death should be a release not a punishment"

Aardvark:
I'm only a villain because holding countries to ransom with orbital superweapons is an easier route into power than democracy.

I'll be voting for you in 2016. I better see a freaking gagantuan orbital superweapon, with updates on it's development and a voting poll for what we want added to it.

I wasn't loved enough as a child.
:(

I can get away with nuking someplace and It wont be a total shock and to give me an excuse to eat puppies....maybe babies on the side. I dont want to get fat

ChromeAlchemist:
I'll be voting for you in 2016. I better see a freaking gagantuan orbital superweapon, with updates on it's development and a voting poll for what we want added to it.

That reeks of democracy.

How about this? You accept me as your lord and master, bow down and worship me as the technological God I will become, or I'll blast you and your entire city into rubble.

Destruction brings happiness. I don't know why, but it's much more appealing to me to burn something than build something and I do believe I need help for this but most people would choose the former. In Fallout 3, it's more fun (in my opinion) to blow off a raider's head than deliver a letter to someone's family and if you don't agree with me you must be mental.

Because I am a clown...and clowns as you know, are pure evil. That is my reason for being evil, because I am a clown.