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Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1058 Joined: 2 Jul 2008     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3285 Joined: 23 Oct 2007     |
Because it's the_root_of_all_evil we're talking about, the most prominent Doctor Who fan on the entire forum, and he notes that he's been watching since the Second Doctor. That's a long time. Anyway, as a Christmas special, it was pretty good. It was well-paced, IMO, which was all I was really looking for after the ending to the last series. It didn't make any canonical sense, of course, but I suppose we'll get back to better things when Moffat takes over. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 587 Joined: 27 Apr 2008     | At the risk of incuring Roots wrath may I point out that Troughton era cybermen and the ones in the current series are not the same Cybermen. I was under the impression that the new itteration of cybers are from an alternative reality and not from space. RTD wanted to reintroduce them without any of the baggage of canon and the cybers have a slightly more rigid place in the canon than the Daleks who have been moving through time at the whim of writers since the year dot. So whilst the historical ideas were really poor the temporal mechanics were broken and the acting was a little wooden but criticising cybers now based on there origin is like comparing The Prisoner and Eastenders. And Im feeling pink as a pistol, good lord I cant even form a cogent similie! |
Time Lord  Posts: 9760 Joined: 13 Feb 2008     |
:P We all have our little predilections, and I only started one of them. Look at the number of Twilight threads. We just LOVE to have a good dissection.
Yeh, they are Parallel Dimension Cybermen, but as I was discussing with others, that's like having Parallel Dimension Daleks that are good guys. It brings in people due to the canon, but then throws it back in their face. Even with all the changes, they are still logical machines; and half of the episode was filled full of logical holes that you could drive a Star-Destroyer through. When people really enjoy a show, it's because of the main villain being not just evil, but smart, funny and preferably attractive. Dervla/Cybermen scored 1 out of 4. "The Next Doctor" felt like the Borg had come back to the Victorian Era and then been slayed by a cold germ. Oh, and Electric, you're comparing The Prisoner and Eastenders? You do know that no-one leaves Albert Square...and they're always asking to "'ave a word". Wotcha, numbah six. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 404 Joined: 30 May 2008    | I wasn't even excited for this episode. Well, a little, but that's only due to the fact that I'm a big fan of the series. I'd just prefer a bit of a break from Cybermen and Daleks, and resurrect a few other classic Dr. Who enemies. I'm a big fan of Tennant though, and it'll be difficult to adjust to a new doctor. But then again it was the same with Eccleston, and I got over that. (Northern pride. Gets me every time.) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2581 Joined: 27 Sep 2008  | I'm not a Doctor Who fan at all, but even I knew that it was pretty inconsistent with the whole Cybermen thing. And I'd like to point out that he has been a woman before (I think). But we don't tend to count the film I suppose. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 587 Joined: 27 Apr 2008 |
I never wish to correspond with you again for likening my beloved prisoner to that depressing pile of poop. I know I started it but if you continue the comparison stating that patrick Mcgoohan and Dot Cotton bare resemblance! Happy new year |
Time Lord Posts: 9760 Joined: 13 Feb 2008 |
He was a woman in "The Curse of the Fatal Death", but that was a spoof. There was also the parallel universe adventure where Arabella Weir played the Doctor. |
Muckraker  Posts: 306 Joined: 4 Oct 2008   | The plot was rubbish. Just plain rubbish. I've enjoyed all the other cybermen plotlines, but this one seemed to sort of fizzle out. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1409 Joined: 9 Jul 2008    | What we need now is for Cyberzilla to fight Mecha-Steisand |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 54 Joined: 2 Apr 2008   | I don't know why people get really worked up over these things. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1761 Joined: 8 Nov 2008    | Well in at 17:35 on BBC one today they will show who the next doctor is. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1108 Joined: 9 Feb 2008  |
More like 6.10 at this rate. Get on with it Doctor Who confidential, I wasn't expecting a documentary about the modernisation of Doctor Who. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 733 Joined: 4 Nov 2008   | Oh. I didn't catch what the new guys name is but he looks about 12. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1761 Joined: 8 Nov 2008 |
Well there he is, the new Doctor. Matt Smith |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1359 Joined: 21 May 2008     |
He is called Matt Smith. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1761 Joined: 8 Nov 2008 | I think he looks pretty good as the Doctor, but we will just have to wait and see. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3874 Joined: 4 May 2008    | I'm a little apprehensive, but after an episode I'll say, "Oh, he's good. I like him." Then the balance will be restored, and nearly nobody will mind. At least, that's what's happened with every other regeneration. |
Paperboy  Posts: 30 Joined: 26 Dec 2008    | i dunno i enjoyed it, sure it wasn't amazing, wasn't really as good as most other doctor who but despite all that i still enjoyed the tennant |
Beat Writer  Posts: 222 Joined: 11 Nov 2008 | I'm definitely going to have to just wait and see on this doctor as I've never seen him in anything so don't know what he will be like. My only complaint is that they went with a young doctor again as it would have been nice to see an older doctor. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1761 Joined: 8 Nov 2008 |
Yeah, though he has something old about him. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 932 Joined: 27 Apr 2008    | That's the new Doctor!?! Blehh!! I don't like him already. And now I have a new theory; RTD is deliberately killing the show because he knows everyone is looking forward to Steven Moffat taking over. Also, that christmas special was cack. Everything looked good up until... |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1108 Joined: 9 Feb 2008 | He looks a lot younger than he is, but I still think the doctor should be mid thirties as a bare minimum. I didn't particularly like the way he came across in the interview, but I'll withold judgement until I see an episode. Can't see me warming to him though. |
BANNED  Posts: 1198 Joined: 6 Sep 2008  | I'm optimistic about the new Doctor because, well, it feels good to beoptimistic occasionally. My main turn off is his posh accent. Is that not a bit... old fashioned?
Wasn't it Moffat who cast the new Doctor? Being honest though, I think I was the only person who thought David Tennant was overrated. I didn't see the big fuss myself. User was banned for: Banning poems from schools in the UK. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1761 Joined: 8 Nov 2008 |
Meh, everyone says that to begin with he will probably do fine, they chose the last ten doctors fine didn't they? |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 932 Joined: 27 Apr 2008 |
Yes, but the other doctors looked right at least. Have you seen those cheeks? It looks like he hasn't eaten in a month. I've talked to several people and all their reactions have been "eww"s or "hell no"s. Maybe that's just the company I keep... |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1761 Joined: 8 Nov 2008 |
I thought the same thing about David Tennant. But you'll get used to him. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1169 Joined: 13 Nov 2007   | From what I can tell, it was Piers Wenger who picked him. And I don't like the looks of the guy either... ah well, with Moffat as head writer, it'd be kind of hard to fail. |
Time Lord Posts: 9760 Joined: 13 Feb 2008 |
We will not tolerate failure. But...I quite like him. Even if he was a little incestuous last time. ;) The Grudinaa did quite a good piece on him. Ooh, and Michelle Ryan as a companion...mmmm. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3191 Joined: 1 Nov 2007     | Hmm...I'm quiet optimistic about this guy. I quite liked him in "The Ruby in the Smoke", but thats a very different character. Most people say they don't like the new doctor at first, then warm to him. He'll have to a pretty good job to beat David Tennant though, he's my doctor. btw, on topic, the last episode was really, truelly terrible. Doctor Who has these episodes from time to time, then it'll throw something like The Library or The child in the gas mask at you and it all seems better again. |
Time Lord Posts: 9760 Joined: 13 Feb 2008 | This still scares the life out of me |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1557 Joined: 31 Dec 2007  |
Haha. Bring enough neck for the rest of the class? I don't know if I'll watch this series. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1761 Joined: 8 Nov 2008 |
At least it isn't a female doctor. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2800 Joined: 25 Aug 2008   | Meh I don't know if he'll make a good doctor i just can't see it myself still I'm rooting for a third series of Torchwood |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1557 Joined: 31 Dec 2007 |
Oh GOD yes. When 'equality' decides it's time to break harmless inoffensive tradition, that's when I break out of my tolerance zone and start killing feminists with a spade. |
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Why is there an entire thread devoted to this one episode? Wasn't there an unofficial Doctor Who discussion thread?
Why are people going insane over what is clearly a bad episode? Who gives a shit about cannon - the episode was awful regardless, no need to even go into accuracy.
Frankly, I'm surprised they didn't just write it off as an alternate universe again, at least then we wouldn't have to worry about why everyone was surprised about the existence of aliens.
That said, really, does this deserve a new thread?