What is your emotional flashpoint?

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Any attempt to force morality on another - be it religious, ideological or philosophical. The moment someone tries to make their morality manifest in a practical manner against someone else's will we will have a problem.

The only subset of "morality" I tolerate is ethics and the "golden rule" (do unto others as you wish done unto yourself). Everything else has a habit of becoming hypocritical.

When people complain about equal rights activists making people reluctant to speak up about their opposition of gay marriage. I equate it to how the South must have felt about Lincoln.

I guess religious debates is one of mine, too. They're just stupidity from both sides.

A guy earlier posted about how he will verbally assault people who "preach" in front of him, attack them, and with pride said that he made a guy cry. He even admitted that he abandoned notions of mercy and decency.

Being an agnostic of sorts, I don't have anything against atheists. But I despise this sort of mentality. It drives me nuts. If you're pushing your views on other people, you're generally wrong, but this includes people who hate religion just as much as it includes religious people. From the indecisive and cowardly "I don't know" stance that I'm floating in right now, the angry atheists and the preachy religious people all look alike to me. And I'm so sick of listening to them argue -_- If you say that all people that believe/don't believe in X religion (perhaps a few less popular ones aside maybe?) are stupid and deserve your abuse, I probably don't like you.

Quack science. Particularly in medicine, and even more so health products for athletes.

I have had to work (still am) very long and very hard to learn the art of not snapping and blurting out a sassy comment every single time a person starts advocating for protein powder, amino acid pills, energy bracelets, or any bullshit diet with more than three capital letters in it that basically just says "cut out [insert nutrient 1] entirely and stock up only on [insert nutrient 2]." The fact that people make hideous amounts of money bullshitting people like this by using fancy, made up "science words" makes me hiss like a wet cat.

A lumberjack that works his body every day and eats decent meals doesn't need a frickin' POWDER to get ripped, so why the hell should anyone else?

Feminists, homos and people who always yell "RACIST." Like that Zimmerman trial, someone said "If it was a black guy who killed a white kid, would he be acquitted?" Basically implying that the judge and jury was racist.

When parent's neglect/abuse/don't love their children.
That makes me so angry and so sad I actually tear up thinking about it. Children love their parents unconditionally, it's biology, they should be that way. Likewise, a parent should love their child unconditionally back; unfortunately there are cases where that's just not true, and that almost literally breaks my heart.

Honestly I feel like that's almost the worst thing human beings can do to each other, because even if you have been through some shit (like serious shit, don't want to be specific to not trigger anyone) you can always take comfort in the fact that at least your parents love you.
It's such a basal need, it should be a fucking Human Right.
But they'll let anyone be a parent...

(I know, I know... It's not like anyone can stop people from having children. I just hate that this actually happens)

McKinsey:
Anti-abortion movement. People who cry "Abortion is murder!" and want to MAKE you have children even if you are not ready yet. When someone says "A fetus has a soul!" and tries to turn a woman into a living incubator against her own will.
Man, this gets me mad real quick.

How interesting. My emotional flashpoint is abortion.

I'm generally pretty middle-of-road on most issues, or outright apathetic... not on abortion, though. My stance has nothing to do with the mother, and everything to do with the baby.

lacktheknack:

McKinsey:
Anti-abortion movement. People who cry "Abortion is murder!" and want to MAKE you have children even if you are not ready yet. When someone says "A fetus has a soul!" and tries to turn a woman into a living incubator against her own will.
Man, this gets me mad real quick.

How interesting. My emotional flashpoint is abortion.

I'm generally pretty middle-of-road on most issues, or outright apathetic... not on abortion, though. My stance has nothing to do with the mother, and everything to do with the baby.

Yeah, I think it's an emotional debate for most.

The contempt that nearly every generation has for the one that comes after it is a huge source of frustration for me. "Those kids are so decadent and lazy and stupid because of (video games/rock and roll/smartphones/etc.) If they didn't have those things, they'd be so much more productive!" - No one who has ever read a history book

Never mind that the generation before them said pretty much the exact same thing before them. It's a wonder that anyone even has kids, when they despise their kids' generation so much. Especially the people who spoil their kids, and then complain about how spoiled their kids are.

Jacco:
I was just on Facebook...

Well there's your problem right there. Hey-oooooooh! *drum rimshot* :P

I really can't say I have any specific, though the one I'll bring up is the one that is pretty much at the core of anyone's emotional flashpoint: "perceived ignorance". That is to say, you just don't see how ANYONE could come to a conclusion that's different than the one that you've come to. I'd imagine this relates to your issue with anti-vaccine people. I'm just taking a wild guess here so I could be completely wrong and this could all be irrelevant, but I'd imagine you're pro-vaccine? If so, the reason you get frustrated looking at anti-vaccine comments is because you see the passion people have for their point of view and don't see how they could possibly get that way. How could they be so wrong while thinking they've got things right? Why do they absolutely refuse to listen to anyone that doesn't agree with them no matter how much evidence there is that goes contrary to their standing?

In other words, it's just the good ol' "Clash of Opinions", particularly in areas that people are very passionate about. That's why political discussions tend to get very heated.

But I guess that's more of an answer to "why people have emotional flashpoints" than an example of one for myself, so I guess I'll go ahead and say that politics is one of mine. As a conservative, it really frustrates me when people attack conservatives as essentially being the epitome of all evil. As though all conservatives are just racist, sexist, greedy homophobes and the people that think that refuse to believe otherwise.

sky14kemea:
Bullying. Specifically when people are bullying others for their own entertainment.

Having been a victim of bullying, and also a bit of a bully before that, I kind of know both sides. (You could say me getting bullied was karma? Though I think it went a bit beyond that).

Anyways, I just hate to see people being singled out and picked on, no matter what the subject is.

Bullying's a weird one for me. Was bullied pretty badly up until roughly 8th grade (in the U.S., btw), and not in the "take my lunch money" way but more in the "I might possibly get stabbed or jumped on the way home from school" kind of way.

However, I'm very hesitant when it comes to hearing others discussing bullying. A lot of people (the Disney channel and their PSAs spring to mind) seem to believe that simply not getting along with somebody or being an asshole to them constitutes bullying, which is something I heavily disagree with. Bullying, in my eyes, is about making a concentrated effort and going out of one's way to making someone's life as miserable as humanly possible. Things like the Disney Channel's "not letting people sit at your table = bullying" or even the whole notion that a bunch of people discussing you in a negative light counts as bullying (many FaceBook and Youtube dramas are good examples) is something that just irks me. I'm a major free speech advocate and support the idea that people don't have to be polite to one another, so I take the line between full-on bullying and simply being a prick / offensive pretty seriously.

McKinsey:
Anti-abortion movement. People who cry "Abortion is murder!" and want to MAKE you have children even if you are not ready yet. When someone says "A fetus has a soul!" and tries to turn a woman into a living incubator against her own will.
Man, this gets me mad real quick.

lacktheknack:

McKinsey:
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How interesting. My emotional flashpoint is abortion.

I'm generally pretty middle-of-road on most issues, or outright apathetic... not on abortion, though. My stance has nothing to do with the mother, and everything to do with the baby.

Abortion is one of those topics I typically avoid due to how uncertain the answer to that debate is as well as the seeming tendency for people to be on one extreme or the other and the absolute refusal to hear opposing opinions on the matter. It's like a more fucked version of religious discussions, imo.

As for my own opinion's on the abortion debate itself, I'd rather not detract from the thread's purpose and thus will keep that to myself for now. The likelihood of completely derailing the thread is simply too high.

V da Mighty Taco:

sky14kemea:
Bullying. Specifically when people are bullying others for their own entertainment.

Having been a victim of bullying, and also a bit of a bully before that, I kind of know both sides. (You could say me getting bullied was karma? Though I think it went a bit beyond that).

Anyways, I just hate to see people being singled out and picked on, no matter what the subject is.

Bullying's a weird one for me. Was bullied pretty badly up until roughly 8th grade (in the U.S., btw), and not in the "take my lunch money" way but more in the "I might possibly get stabbed or jumped on the way home from school" kind of way.

However, I'm very hesitant when it comes to hearing others discussing bullying. A lot of people (the Disney channel and their PSAs spring to mind) seem to believe that simply not getting along with somebody or being an asshole to them constitutes bullying, which is something I heavily disagree with. Bullying, in my eyes, is about making a concentrated effort and going out of one's way to making someone's life as miserable as humanly possible. Things like the Disney Channel's "not letting people sit at your table = bullying" or even the whole notion that a bunch of people discussing you in a negative light counts as bullying (many FaceBook and Youtube dramas are good examples) is something that just irks me. I'm a major free speech advocate and support the idea that people don't have to be polite to one another, so I take the line between full-on bullying and simply being a prick / offensive pretty seriously.

Yeah, I agree. I was the subject of some very serious bullying, up until the 8th grade. (I still got insulted verbally after that, but after getting bigger and a few fights, they just said things from a distance.) I remember watching a movie with a friend and his cousin and aunt. The bigger kid broke the other kids glasses for no good reason, and the reaction of the people in the room was "I've never seen bullying like that!" I was thinking, "...Really? I have..." The thing that annoys me is that NO ONE thinks they were the popular kid in school. This is because, to some people, anything less than 100% popularity (or at least very close to it) is unpopular. We should try not to get too worked up over it, I guess, because people can't understand if they haven't experienced it first hand. But if someone is just quarreling with someone and they say they're getting bullied, yeah...that's... -_-

I have lots of those subjects that will always raise my blood pressure by a significant margin.

Religious debates can be so nasty, while I happily side with fellow theists, even our side can't be trusted to remain civil. I'll avoid them like the plague.

Animal abuse, after just losing my cat to cancer recently, hearing an owner abuse and harm their healthy pet infuriates me like almost nothing else.

Political discussions, for all the same reasons as the religious ones.

Pokemon gen wars, I hate the genwunner mentality so much you wouldn't believe!

I try to see the other side and tolerate people who view the world differently from me, but some of the dumb debates on these subjects or stories makes me less likely to simply agree to disagree.

As someone deeply effected by the rape of a very close friend... Well rape jokes just don't do anything for me. I can filter out the idiots on the internet using "rape" as a synonym for "humiliate" when I'm playing online games to a point but I get upset when my friends do it. It didn't happen to me but I feel the stress daily about thinking about how I could have stopped it from happening if I had spent my day differently. Having that shit pop into your head when you're trying to relax and have fun gets grating. I would like for gamers to collectively stop misusing the term but I'm not optimistic that it'll stop.

piinyouri:
A lot of stuff.
Some of it seemingly trivial, others not so much.

Pretty much any time I see someone being unbelievably ignorant I get riled up.

I'm pretty unstable though, probably hovering right around bi-polar.

This except I am bi-polar.
It'd be easier to list the things that don't set me off, and even then if my mood isn't right I'd get set off anyway.

Though the biggest ones are probably the government surveillance (and nobody caring), police/government brutality, corporations destroying consumer rights, people trying to deny rights to others and bullying.

Those'll set me off even if I'm super calm and on tranquilizers while listening to the smoothest of smooth jazz.

Unfortunately everything and their mother also could set me off at any point just cuz my brain hates me.

game-lover:
Infidelity. Adultery. Cheating.

First thing that comes to mind. I will lose my shit in less time than it takes to say those three words in succession.

Probably there are others in here somewhere. But the main one is that little dealie right there.

This one right here. I just find it infuriating. Now, if someone else can actually manage to have a fulfilling, open relationship, where both parties can do whatever they want, good on them. But personally, I just can't grasp it for a relationship of my own.

As for anti-vaccine, vaccines have a place. Personally, I just hate being jabbed with needles for any reason, so really, I'm pro-vaccine, just anti-needle. Can't stand the things, they freak me the fuck out.

sky14kemea:
Bullying. Specifically when people are bullying others for their own entertainment.

Having been a victim of bullying, and also a bit of a bully before that, I kind of know both sides. (You could say me getting bullied was karma? Though I think it went a bit beyond that).

Anyways, I just hate to see people being singled out and picked on, no matter what the subject is.

Reminds me of that Facebook conversation with the guy who shared your last name. :D

OT: Manipulative people. When people are clearly not above fucking with other people's lives or saying anything to get what they want.

It's actually something I discovered I have an ability for quite some time ago, but I don't on principle. It just infuriates me. Most recently, my friend's girlfriend (my ex) has used threats of self harm and suicide, not to mention lying about when she's supposed to be moving away (getting out of his hair for good) in order to make sure he doesn't break up with her.

When he actually shut her out for a few days, she then came crying to me, trying to get me to talk him into getting back with her, then made the same threats to me that she'd hurt/kill herself if I didn't comply. Utterly sick of it at that point, I asked why that was my problem, and I haven't had to put up with her since.

I loathe any type of racism, nationalism and immigrant hostility. Got a pamphlet from some fucking anti-immigrant organization, burned that shit in the grill together with my cousin (Whose dad is Danish). The sad thing is that one such party is on the rise here, which is very worrying. Sweden is a wonderful country and to anyone who wants to live here I say welcome! We're all equals and borders should mean as little as possible.

Arrogance. Really the typical "I think something is like X therefore it must be so and everybody is wrong for thinking otherwise"-attitude is the thing that gets me all the fucking time in its various shades. The usual thing that irritates me about it the most is the willingness to abandon any shred of actually trying to learn something and basing ones own preconceptions and selfish desires before finding the most useful solution. Still, I can normally deal with it because we all tend to argue like this sometimes and we all make mistakes or simply don't know better, but it really starts to get annoying when these people flat-out refuse to accept any criticisms or anything that challenges their world-view and then ramble on into insults or the utterly egregious "I'AM THE VICTIM HERE!"-stance in its various facets that tells far more about how much of a self-righteous, obnoxious prick that person is than about anything we could possibly talk about. But even that I can deal with to some extend and just smile the usual suspects away.

However....

There is a line they should not cross: it is advocating murder, genocide or any of those other amusing things that we can see people spout from time to time. Really at this special triple-point when arrogance, lack of empathy and utter ignorance is so extensive, so vast, and just so eternal that it makes those people simply go like "We should kill/torture/neuter group X because of [insert poorly thought out selfish reason here]" then I get...a little bit angry and I always end up far more concerned about humanity because of those guys than whatever group they see as a threat. The usual discussions where this kind of people can be exceptionally encountered includes but is not limited to: Death Penalty Debates, Threads about overpopulation and Threads about Muslims. And given that I worked for Amnesty International for a time, think the overpopulation argument is very much bogus and I know too many muslims to believe they are all terrorists...well you can conclude what happens....

Sleekit:
i particularly like the way bigots and racists speak to you in casual conversation as if, ofc, you share their prejudices...

This. If you're going to be an ignorant piece of shit, don't act like we're buddies who think remotely alike.

The things that make me angry are these:
1. People who can't spell or use correct grammar
2. Homeopathy
3. Conservative argument (cutting government spending is a bad idea, taxes are great and socialism FTW)
4. Censorship in general. I'm an adult, why can't I buy Saints Row 4 (in Australia)?

Sleekit:
i particularly like the way bigots and racists speak to you in casual conversation as if, of course, you share their prejudices...

This happens a lot in my social circles, probably indicates I should look for a new crowd right?
An ex-friend of mine (who's also openly gay) would casually say some of the most racist, sexists and generally every form of stereotyping he could justify within the context of his rant.

This is why I'm both outspoken on those topics and sort of restrained when I get trolled on here. Because I know a real life person who thinks in this way and was raised by a whole family who believes in this stuff.

OT: I have many flashpoints, but I won't go there with those. Jingoism/ultra-nationalism at the exclusion of all the rest of humanity tends to get under my skin so much I will verbally challenge a person talking like in public.

Anything evil done in the name of religion makes me fucking furious. Islamic extremists who suppress women or cry out for blasphemers to be killed, the Catholic Church telling people in poor african nations that condoms are evil, homophobic bible-belt fuckheads who alienate gay relatives, children even...

But also:

- pro-lifers
- climate change deniers
- people who misrepresent scientific evidence for their own gain
- people who try to push creationism into schools
- people who're cruel to animals
- pseudoscientists, quacks, 'psychics', and so on
- alliance scum, especially fucking goddamn gnomes

Censorship is a major one for me.

Throw in religion, abortion, politics, and pretty much everything else that riles most people up and you've got a molotov cocktail brewing.

Tom Milner:

The Artificially Prolonged:
Gossip and talking behind people's back. I hate it, it's devious, cowardly and disrespectful to the person being talked about. No good ever comes from it.

100% agreed. if you have a problem with someone, say it to their face or say shtum.

OT:
Religious preachers. i don't care what you're preaching, i will drag you off your high horse and (verbally) beat you to your knees until you promise to stop being a prick. i have done this multiple times, and not regretted it.

i have done this in front of friends

i have done this in front of family

i have done this in front of the general public.

lesson? DO. NOT. PREACH. IN. FRONT. OF. ME. i WILL endlessly bash you for it, made one guy cry once. when i go after you, any assemblance of decency and mercy goes out the window. go and spread your lies and bigotry elsewhere!

why yes, i am hardline atheist.

and what makes you different?

Whenever I see people dismissing human life of any worth, I get pretty heated. The sheer amount of narcissism, cognitive dissonance, cynical delusion, and arrogance these privileged introverts (and yes, they're ALWAYS privileged introverts) makes me pretty mad. Bonus points if they're an objectivist or misanthrope.

Seeing bigotry of any form also rubs me the wrong way. I'm talking about so called "acceptable targets", such as pedophiles (NOT THE SAME THING AS CHILD RAPE!), necrophilies or those that practice bestiality (though if you believe animals are equal to humans I understand the last one)

Atheists who lost their belief due to some personal tragedy. You THINK you're rejecting an unjust God, but you're really just highlighting how selfish you are. People have suffered MUCH WORSE than you have, both today and throughout history. But their tragedies are okay, since it doesn't affect YOU, does it? Once you have to experience loss, though, suddenly you're crying out against this creators obvious hate of you. If there is a God, the fact that he lets self-centered people like you suffer proves he must be just.

For the record, I'm an atheist who reluctantly came to this conclusion after my beliefs lost one too many intellectual all arguments. Of course, I didn't WANT to lose faith, because I actually had concern for the millions of people who have been oppressed and lived terrible lives. Religion was the only hope they had, and having to accept it was a lost cause was a very depressing experience. When some narcissistic asshole so easily gives up on this one hope for humanity because their gravy train came to end, you bet I'm gonna be passed.

Ratties:

Angie7F:
I dont really have one.
Wait, people posting about marriage and kids.
I think it is those menial stuff that people take for granted that really make other people feel bad about them selves.
So anyone who does not think twice about posting about their pregnancy/ marriage/ promotion pisses me off.

This shit runs rampant on Facebook. The only time it pisses me off is when they constantly have to update it. If they just post one comment on there along the lines of "my boyfriend proposed today, so happy." Then I can let it slide. When they go on the warpath with it, posting comment after comment about it, I just want to scream. Nobody really gives a fuck in the first place, just accept it and move on.

No one cares that this annoys you, either, yet you felt compelled to make this comment. It's relevant in this discussions cards next, true, but so is newlyweds celebrating on Facebook.

Blatant hypocrisy like this also bugs me.

Wanton cruelty, in any shape or form, to animals or people. Cruelty to dogs in particular gets my blood boiling, as I've always been a dog person and our family has had dogs since I was a baby. I wont even tolerate jokes about it and whenever I accidentally read something about dog poisoners or other such human viciousness, it completely ruins my day. There's nothing that shows a person's true monster as what they do to those who are helpless to resist. I get the feeling that I could watch all manner of atrocities be committed on people who do that kind of shit, so I guess I'm technically a hypocrite for thinking their human rights should be revoked.

To a lesser extent, I hate people who boost their own ego by belittling others, whether it is at school, work, or even in bed.

Tom Milner:

The Artificially Prolonged:
Gossip and talking behind people's back. I hate it, it's devious, cowardly and disrespectful to the person being talked about. No good ever comes from it.

100% agreed. if you have a problem with someone, say it to their face or say shtum.

OT:
Religious preachers. i don't care what you're preaching, i will drag you off your high horse and (verbally) beat you to your knees until you promise to stop being a prick. i have done this multiple times, and not regretted it.

i have done this in front of friends

i have done this in front of family

i have done this in front of the general public.

lesson? DO. NOT. PREACH. IN. FRONT. OF. ME. i WILL endlessly bash you for it, made one guy cry once. when i go after you, any assemblance of decency and mercy goes out the window. go and spread your lies and bigotry elsewhere!

why yes, i am hardline atheist.

That my emotional flashpoint. People who need to shit on others beliefs to feel better abut themselves. If you hear someone quoting scripture, why not just ignore them?

someonehairy-ish:
Anything evil done in the name of religion makes me fucking furious. Islamic extremists who suppress women or cry out for blasphemers to be killed, the Catholic Church telling people in poor african nations that condoms are evil, homophobic bible-belt fuckheads who alienate gay relatives, children even...

But also:

- pro-lifers
- climate change deniers
- people who misrepresent scientific evidence for their own gain
- people who try to push creationism into schools
- people who're cruel to animals
- pseudoscientists, quacks, 'psychics', and so on
- alliance scum, especially fucking goddamn gnomes

But evil done in the name of ANYTHING and EVERYTHING else is hunky-dory in your books? Again, you're singling out a group of people to shit on due to a specific trait. Also, your idea of "evil" is subjective. Pro-lifers value human life at any stage of development, and therefore see pro-choice as murder.

Gnomes and Pseudoscience ARE the devil, I will give you that.

Norithics:
The whole "alpha male" movement that talks glibly about emotionally manipulating women to get laid, then passively bullying others into the same practice to reinforce their misguided belief that they're entitled to this. I've never met somebody like this iRL, but I just cannot imagine any conversation with them that wouldn't end in fists. Granted, I never win fights, but it's almost not the point.

I was talking to a guy in my class the other day, and he randomly mentioned how he and his friends would do the women manipulation thing. I thought it was kind of funny cause he's a short, annoying bastard, and I thought "No way this dude's getting laid."

I don't really have any emotional flashpoints, seeing as I'm an apathetic bastard. Case in point: Eric Snowden and the NSA leaks. When news hit that the US was spying on its citizens all I could come up with was a "Oh, I thought we all knew that. Whatever, next website!" I didn't care in the least bit about it and saw it as something we already knew. Then there are the people saying how we should be thankful to Snowden for being so brave to do what he did for us. Didn't care and still don't care about what he did. In fact, every time I see some news story about him now, I always say to myself that he might get shot.

Then before that was the Xbox One debacle. All I got from the presentation was that there was gonna be a Halo t.v. series streaming on it. I loved that one of my favorite game series was finally getting a television show. Then E3 came and the information on its DRM came to light. When that happened, I saw all these posts that pretty much amounted to "Xbone is shit, you shit for liking it" everywhere, yet I didn't care. None of the DRM policies really struck a nerve with me, not eve the always on kinect camera. All I cared about was that if I decided to get it, I would need around $600 by november.

I tend to steer clear of any debate about any relevant controversy on the net, seeing as it essentially boils down to shit flinging from all sides.

Let's see, there's bullying, anti-abortion, racism, sexism, censorship, bullying, "alpha-males" aka acting like a sexist douche because you're a guy and when guys are saying it to guys it's okay (except it still isn't), animal cruelty coming from PETA...y'know, let's just say "everything." I'll get mad at the Home Shopping Channel if they sell a product I find stupid enough.

Yes, I know I said bullying twice. That's a big one.

I'll preface what I say as not trying to come off as hostile to people in this thread because while it's not my intention to target anyone here (or more likely the posting population as a whole in this thread) the specific opinion I have might lead to that misunderstanding.
I hate egocentric people that will look down on others for having views that are not theirs. I do not mean the people in this thread, and the OP was very good about keeping that thing out of here when he urged people to not try and ridicule those who share opinions they don't agree with. I mean the kind of people that will have a different opinion and straight up call you stupid for not having their opinion. Not saying that that view isn't smart, not saying that the reasoning behind having that view is flawed, but blanket writing people off as stupid because they disagree with said view. The people in this thread are expressing their opinions, and if that opinion is that X thing is stupid that's fine. I'm sure they have real reasons that are valid and that is a good solid basis. But if someone were to come along and tell them that holding that view just makes them stupid or worthless in some way, because that person disagrees with them, we have a problem.

I like to think that I'm a respectful guy when it comes to arguing, and I guess that's part of why this sort of thing pisses me off. I don't get super angry, cause there is not much that you can say on the internet that will really make me anything more than a little frustrated. But it's one of the few things that gets to me.

Pro-life arguments drive me nuts.

I don't like being talked about as if I'm some sort of walking incubator.

I also hate the "well, maybe you shouldn't have opened your legs" comments that often follow.

Also, the strategic use of the word "mother". As in, when a women becomes pregnant, even in the beginning no matter what the circumstance, she is always referred to as 'the mother' by pro-lifers in abortion debates rather than a woman or even a girl/child in some cases.

I could go on for years but anyway, pro-life arguments piss me off.

Oh, and I kinda forgot to mention gay bashing, especially when it's done with completely irrelevant or false arguments.

"It's unnatural!"
- No, it's not. Even animals do it. And even if it were, it'd be on a long list of things most people do on a daily basis that are a step up from living in caves or on a tree.

"It's a sin!"
- "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone", and all that. And according to the Bible, there are no innocents. And no religion should impose its values on those who do not follow it.

"If we allow gay marriage, where does it end? What if someone wants to marry a dog?!"
- Here's a lovely quote: "If you can't tell the difference between a relationship formed by consenting adults and bestiality, I recommend you never get a dog."

"I just hate people who are different!"
- Well, at least now you're being honest.

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