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Muckraker
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A while back, I took my 6-Year-Old Niece to see the popular movie adaptation of the book Prince Caspian. The rating was PG, and I assumed as much. She had seen several Disney PG's and I thought nothing of it. A cheesy swordfight could earn a PG in today's world. But this movie had monsters, decapitations, and "jump out at you" spot or two. She had nightmares for a week. And to top it all off, I was to blame, according to her mother. I should have watched the movie forst or something apparently. I guess if you happen to be the Disney Company, you can get whatever rating you want from a film. What I need is some opinions. Am I to blame?

Paperboy
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I guess you have never read the books then? If you had you would have known what to expect. PG means Parental Guidance, not Suitable for everyone which is a U rating. I would say 6 is far too young for many PG rated films.

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I don't think Disney decides the ratings. Sorry dude, as much as hating on Disney is fine, they didn't pull this one, the people who decide the ratings did.

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Red Guard
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Yeah, I would say it's your bad.
I thought everyone knew the the rating system has just been getting more and more lacadazical with it's ratings. PG-13 used to mean a bit of violence and some casual curse words. Now it's fairly strong language, violence, nudity...basically everything is a rating lower then what it should be, these days.

Gone Gonzo
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Sorry man, but it isn't Disney's fault. They don't get to choose the ratings that their films get; ratings are a separate board, which analyzes the film's content and rates it "accordingly". Disney may have been trying to reach a PG13 rating, but the film board thought it was only PG. Next time, maybe read a few reviews online about a questionable movie first...they tend to say whether it is violent or not.

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PG usually is someone 12+.

Don't blame Blizzard for his Diablo 2, that got 15+ and you let your 10 year old cousin play it.

I did, when I was 8, and after IV act and all the horrible creatures in Hell (hey, it were different times - Diablo 2 had pretty good graphics), I had nightmares for like a month.

Blame yourself for not knowing the rating system.

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Disney are douchebags.

That is all.

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Press Junketeer
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Wonder what a half exposed nipple would have done to this movie's rating?

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I sometimes find that my local theater posts ratings below what they actually are. I'd say it's to make more money by letting more people see it, but I've been asked repeatedly how old I am when I'm going to see a PG movie. I'm sixteen. Sure, I'm small, and I could probably pass for 13, but the movie was PG!

Beat Writer
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the mpaa decides the ratings and unfortunately they can be surprisingly biased in their reviews when big money comes into play just look at harry potter 3 or dark night they really did not deserve their lenient ratings but as they were big money blockbusters they got an easy pass.If you want to watch an interesting movie on this topic check out This Film Is Not Yet Rated

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493459/

EDIT: oh and just fyi the rating system is completely voluntary meaning there is no actual law prohibiting you from seeing a particular movie that is R or NC-17 even if you are not 17

Gone Gonzo
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Well it is your fault and it isn't.

The PG rating has been steadily slipping in it's standards. The Fellowship of the Ring is PG and I hope you would never take a 6 year old to see that. It seems as long as you don't show major organs or sex scenes you can get away with just about anything violence wise and still avoid a 12+ rating.

With little kids you should always watch the film first. Even U rated films seem to have nightmare inducers in them now.

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Terrible film of a terrible series of books. +1 for Eddie Izzard

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ChristmasChild:
A while back, I took my 6-Year-Old Niece to see the popular movie adaptation of the book Prince Caspian. The rating was PG, and I assumed as much. She had seen several Disney PG's and I thought nothing of it. A cheesy swordfight could earn a PG in today's world. But this movie had monsters, decapitations, and "jump out at you" spot or two. She had nightmares for a week. And to top it all off, I was to blame, according to her mother. I should have watched the movie forst or something apparently. I guess if you happen to be the Disney Company, you can get whatever rating you want from a film. What I need is some opinions. Am I to blame?

Parents are responsible for screening the media they expose their children to, so yeah sorry, it's on you, man...

You can not rely on the ratings systems alone... they are only guidlines, and are inconsistent in my opinion. You should read reviews and do more research before you take a young child to see a film...

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fix-the-spade:
Well it is your fault and it isn't.

The PG rating has been steadily slipping in it's standards. The Fellowship of the Ring is PG and I hope you would never take a 6 year old to see that. It seems as long as you don't show major organs or sex scenes you can get away with just about anything violence wise and still avoid a 12+ rating.

With little kids you should always watch the film first. Even U rated films seem to have nightmare inducers in them now.

Watership Down. That is all.

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i thought the PG thing was actually quite a vague rating, i mean for christ' sake, TOY STORY was a PG movie. how did that epic film ever deerve such a rating. i reckon you should get PG- and PG+, to say parental guidance, this one may be a bit nasty, or may be softer than others

about it being your fualt and that you should have watched the film first to make sure it was suitable, i think that's b/s. if it was in the cinema, the most likely thing was that you hadn't seen it either, and given the way that books are heavily adapted for the screen, the book might not have alluded to the film content (just look at the mash-up they made of Harry Potter 4 when they converted that film!)

and what was the rating of Watership down?
i remember watching it somewhere between the age of 3 and 7, and being perfectly okay with it, but i watched when i was about 9, and i had to put the light back on at night. it shows if you actually understand what's going on, it has a much greater impact

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inu-kun:
Wonder what a half exposed nipple would have done to this movie's rating?

Instant R rating.

Gone Gonzo
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First off overall it is your fault and yet it is not much for the same reason as fix-the-spade has stated. The reason the ratings seem more lax is because more people complain that they should be the ones to approve content for their kids and yet they complain to the ratings board so they can just let their kids go to the theatre without their supervision.

However this is also your fault because you judged a movie by its rating and not on the content. So you should expect to have no expectations since you did not know the plot, story or characters for the movie. Second THIS IS DISNEY! The company most well known to tug at your heart strings and show children the evils of the world in animated and now live action form. Don't believe me check out this clip from the Nostalgic critic, he even has top 11 disney villans as well that you should check out.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/1600-nostalgia-critic-top-11-saddest-moments

Gone Gonzo
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Baby Tea:
Yeah, I would say it's your bad.
I thought everyone knew the the rating system has just been getting more and more lacadazical with it's ratings. PG-13 used to mean a bit of violence and some casual curse words. Now it's fairly strong language, violence, nudity...basically everything is a rating lower then what it should be, these days.

Indeed, it is getting to the point you have to be absolutely over the top to even get an R now or just make a softcore Porno.

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Sylocat:

inu-kun:
Wonder what a half exposed nipple would have done to this movie's rating?

Instant R rating.

unless you have a 200 million dollar budget ala Titanic

Paperboy
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thebobmaster:

fix-the-spade:
Well it is your fault and it isn't.

The PG rating has been steadily slipping in it's standards. The Fellowship of the Ring is PG and I hope you would never take a 6 year old to see that. It seems as long as you don't show major organs or sex scenes you can get away with just about anything violence wise and still avoid a 12+ rating.

With little kids you should always watch the film first. Even U rated films seem to have nightmare inducers in them now.

Watership Down. That is all.

Oh god! Remember that scene where that one rabbit had visions of other rabbits dying underground?

Sheez, that scared me and I was 16 at the time...

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Deschamps:
I sometimes find that my local theater posts ratings below what they actually are. I'd say it's to make more money by letting more people see it, but I've been asked repeatedly how old I am when I'm going to see a PG movie. I'm sixteen. Sure, I'm small, and I could probably pass for 13, but the movie was PG!

:DD

I got a few mates with the same problem, only it's when we're going into bars or clubs.

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it's the kids fault
i mean seriously what a wuss
amirite?!??

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niblik:

thebobmaster:

fix-the-spade:
Well it is your fault and it isn't.

The PG rating has been steadily slipping in it's standards. The Fellowship of the Ring is PG and I hope you would never take a 6 year old to see that. It seems as long as you don't show major organs or sex scenes you can get away with just about anything violence wise and still avoid a 12+ rating.

With little kids you should always watch the film first. Even U rated films seem to have nightmare inducers in them now.

Watership Down. That is all.

Oh god! Remember that scene where that one rabbit had visions of other rabbits dying underground?

Sheez, that scared me and I was 16 at the time...

I haven't seen it, but I am familiar with the book, and am at a loss as to how a movie based off it could possibly be fit for little kids.

Gone Gonzo
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thebobmaster:
Watership Down. That is all.

Brutal fight scenes, Bullet wound bleed outs, Mass gass based extermination, nightmare visions.

That thing gives me nightmares now.

Gone Gonzo
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Yeah, PG-rated movies aren't really kid-safe anymore.

G movies, on the other hand, usually are. Like Planet of the Apes; the kind of movie that'll put a smile on any 5-year old's face.

"Get your hands off me, you damned dirty ape!"

Gone Gonzo
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lol, If you thought taking a 6 year old to a PG movie was a good idea then it is probably your own fault.

PG is one of those swing ratings, it used to mean everything that wasn't an R until Gremlins and Raiders of the Lost Ark came out.

I'd say any kid around 10 years old or so should be ready to see a PG movie without having troubles, but clearly that kid wasn't ready to see it. There are plenty of movies perfect for little kids these days that aren't like sitting through Barney the dinosaur for adults.

Tales of Despereaux is probably in that phase, or Bolt.

Sure, they may not be something that you'd go and watch by yourself, but you're toting a toddler around, you sort of have to go by their sensibilities... Did the kid watch the first Narnia? It wasn't as gruesome, but did they watch it and enjoy it and understand it? It had some pretty scary parts in it for little kids.

I don't think the mom was right in saying you should have watched the movie first, but I do think you should have gone to a kiddie movie with a kiddie.. They aren't all horrible for adults these days

Gone Gonzo
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I never trust ratings. Last I checked, Viva Pinata is E10+, who wouldn't let their kid play that game? Worst thing there is beating a pinata.

Gone Gonzo
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Deschamps:
I sometimes find that my local theater posts ratings below what they actually are. I'd say it's to make more money by letting more people see it, but I've been asked repeatedly how old I am when I'm going to see a PG movie. I'm sixteen. Sure, I'm small, and I could probably pass for 13, but the movie was PG!

I have that in reverse. I'm 14 but I get passed for 16,even when I was 13!
Back on topic,that whole thing about 'you should have watched it first' is pure b/s. I went to see it with a friend and I was annoyed at how different it was from the books and the old tv series. Even if you had read the books or even seen the film beforehand,there is no way of knowing how a child will react. I saw films much worse than that when I was her age and I was completely fine with it. Every person will react differently to a film. You could not have known what kind of effect it would have on her. Also,dont blame Disney. As much as I hate them they are not to blame in this situation.

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Hookman:

Deschamps:
I sometimes find that my local theater posts ratings below what they actually are. I'd say it's to make more money by letting more people see it, but I've been asked repeatedly how old I am when I'm going to see a PG movie. I'm sixteen. Sure, I'm small, and I could probably pass for 13, but the movie was PG!

I have that in reverse. I'm 14 but I get passed for 16,even when I was 13!
Back on topic,that whole thing about 'you should have watched it first' is pure b/s. I went to see it with a friend and I was annoyed at how different it was from the books and the old tv series. Even if you had read the books or even seen the film beforehand,there is no way of knowing how a child will react. I saw films much worse than that when I was her age and I was completely fine with it. Every person will react differently to a film. You could not have known what kind of effect it would have on her. Also,dont blame Disney. As much as I hate them they are not to blame in this situation.

I'm 15 and I've been mistaken as 20-30 years old. It's rather infuriating actually.

Anyway moving back to the topic, shouldnt the movie's rating have some warning as to what the movie contained? What I mean is, on adverts for films if they're a PG it would say something like 'Mild fantasy violence and scenes that may be unfit for small children' that would indicate if anything that a child shouldnt be seeing is contained in the film. I personally would have researched this film a bit first.

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ChristmasChild:
A while back, I took my 6-Year-Old Niece to see the popular movie adaptation of the book Prince Caspian. The rating was PG, and I assumed as much. She had seen several Disney PG's and I thought nothing of it. A cheesy swordfight could earn a PG in today's world. But this movie had monsters, decapitations, and "jump out at you" spot or two. She had nightmares for a week. And to top it all off, I was to blame, according to her mother. I should have watched the movie forst or something apparently. I guess if you happen to be the Disney Company, you can get whatever rating you want from a film. What I need is some opinions. Am I to blame?

Yes, you are to blame. I am sorry but any time you take a kid to see a movie or let them play a video game or anything else then you had better look into it first. Considering that Prince Caspian is one of the most famous works Lewis ever put out (Sadly people ignore 'out of the silent planet and the screwtape letters) and considering that J.R.R. Tolkien was both his friend and contemporary it should have been obvious that a quick glance was in order.

But even without that it is always the fault of the adult or authority figure when something like this happens. Ratings are no substitute for research and with the internet there is no excuse.

Gone Gonzo
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My psychology teacher had a similar problem. When he was in high school, he babysat a friend's kids. One day, he went to see Raiders of the Lost Ark. One of the kids started hyperventilating from the action. He got in trouble, of course, but it passed quickly. Some time later, he took the same kids to the Muppet movie. When Kermit was being flung by the ceiling fan, the younger one started hyperventilating. He was never allowed to take them to a movie again.

Gone Gonzo
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EOT:
I guess you have never read the books then? If you had you would have known what to expect. PG means Parental Guidance, not Suitable for everyone which is a U rating. I would say 6 is far too young for many PG rated films.

Good point.

4thegreatergood:
Some time later, he took the same kids to the Muppet movie. When Kermit was being flung by the ceiling fan, the younger one started hyperventilating. He was never allowed to take them to a movie again.

I can understand the Raiders of the Lost Ark thing, but the kid freaked out in the Muppet movie? No, that's not the teacher's fault; that's the parents' fault for raising a pansy.

Gone Gonzo
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Disney doesn't decide the rating.
Anyway it was PG that means its your job to decide if its ok for your kid, do you need a rubber stamp for everything you do?

Gone Gonzo
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Goodness gracious! I don't want to be mean, but step back and look at this for one second. You're complaining that PG Disney movies have gone too far. DISNEY!

To reiterate what has already been said, PG means "parental guidance", so it is up to the older individual to judge whether or not the movie will be suitable for their child. But hey, for next time, imdb has a parents' content guide for most movies. Check that out first, and you should be good to go.

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The simplest and only solution:

Get lion king and watch it at home
the Circle of life was the shit.

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