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Muckraker
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Apocalypse Tank:
The simplest and only solution:

Get lion king and watch it at home
the Circle of life was the shit.

A very valid answer. I agree 100%.

Paperboy
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Look, don't hate Disney for the rating. They make the movie and it's the responsibility of your country's rating system to assign it a value. I gotta say though, why would you, six-year-old in tow, choose to go see Prince Caspian over more family friendly choices, like Wall-e? Have you seriously never read the Narnia series? The books aren't exactly puppies and sunshine, you know.

Gone Gonzo
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This Person:
Look, don't hate Disney for the rating. They make the movie and it's the responsibility of your country's rating system to assign it a value. I gotta say though, why would you, two-year-old in tow, choose to go see Prince Caspian over more family friendly choices, like Wall-e? Have you seriously never read the Narnia series? The books aren't exactly puppies and sunshine, you know.

they are childrens books.

just not toddlers books.

Gone Gonzo
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i hate disney. kill mickey mouse and eat him!

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Altorin:

This Person:
Look, don't hate Disney for the rating. They make the movie and it's the responsibility of your country's rating system to assign it a value. I gotta say though, why would you, two-year-old in tow, choose to go see Prince Caspian over more family friendly choices, like Wall-e? Have you seriously never read the Narnia series? The books aren't exactly puppies and sunshine, you know.

they are childrens books.

just not toddlers books.

I was talking to my cousin about her two-year-old and got the ages confused. As you can see I edited my post to fix the discrepancy.

Gone Gonzo
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Nah. Probably not. The rating system is pretty fucked. Violence usually gets a free ride and a cheesy sex scene usually gets you an R or worse.
Passion of the Christ is one of the best examples. That level of violence would've easily garnered it an X rating. But it's about Jesus; and a movie about Jesus can't get an X rating.
My point is the Narnia books have a Christ allegory in them that may have motivated the ratings board.

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inu-kun:
Wonder what a half exposed nipple would have done to this movie's rating?

It would put Disney out of business. They can't afford a nip slip.

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Gone Gonzo
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PG ie PGm 13+. and disney is EVIL! didn't you already know that?

why does caspian have a racist "latino" (?) accent? yeah, we know he is a freedom fighter but does he have to speak like that? and arn't all the people ment to be decended from the first four from "lion witch and the wardrobe"?... wow, i just relised that, they were all related...

the original series was better, the brittish TV version.

Gone Gonzo
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MPAA. Blame them.

Beat Writer
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You'd be surprised, man.
I was looking back to some old favorites like Rocko's Modern Life. At the time, I knew something was up, but didn't quite get it. Now... WOW. It was beautiful.

Anyway- You should have known what you were in for if you read the books, man. And if you hadn't read them, you most likely have no business taking a kid to see it. Sorry to support your opposition. >.<;;

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I would say it was half in half
Half your fault for not checking up on what was their, plus the FYI is the sequal to things are usually alot darker and more cynical/sinister than the original.

Half-Because Disney didn't tell you what the rating was for exactly and not making the trailers look more mature.

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Sylocat:

inu-kun:
Wonder what a half exposed nipple would have done to this movie's rating?

Instant R rating.

Yeah, because no child has ever seen a nipple, but decapicated heads? every single day!

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...We shelter kids too much. Keep them away from the swearing, keep them away from the sex, keep them away from the violent torture, that's fine. But keeping them from "jumpy parts", now that's just silly.

Muckraker
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Not a huge Disney fan, but your issue is with the ratings, not the people who made the movie. the entire ratings system is riddled with inconsistancy and major flaws in basic common sense.

My main question to you is, since this movie was a sequel, had you or your neice seen the first movie? Frankly I think it was about the same as far as the violence and scariness, so it really shouldnt have come as much of a surprise. especially since many times sequels try to top their predecessors.

Gone Gonzo
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Well the movie was based on an established book series so Disney had to work with what those books gave them and doesn't a regulatory body funded by the Federal government decide what films are rated? Either you or the film ratings board is to blame. I do not see how you could blame Disney unless High School musical has destroyed the brains of the members of the film ratings board.

Gone Gonzo
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Um, you can always blame Disney. There's no time when Disney isn't at fault. :P

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Bright_Raven:
PG ie PGm 13+. and disney is EVIL! didn't you already know that?

why does caspian have a racist "latino" (?) accent? yeah, we know he is a freedom fighter but does he have to speak like that? and arn't all the people ment to be decended from the first four from "lion witch and the wardrobe"?... wow, i just relised that, they were all related...

the original series was better, the brittish TV version.

Wow. You are either completely unfamiliar with the series or missing several parts of your brain. The accent isnt latino and it is used to help show that caspian and the rest of the telmaurines are not originally from narnia (both the movie and book explains this at the end)

the whole related thing is crap too, in the books it clearly states that while there hadnt been any humans in narnia for hundreds of years before the LWW, there are multiple surrounding coutries with humans, like Archenland and Calormen, where people migrated from after the fall of the white witch.

Dude seriously, Im not asking you to research everything you say in a post, but if your accusing people of racism and incest, you might wanna back up what your saying.

Beat Writer
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Man, I remember when for a film to be R rated, it needed to have oceans of blood or at least one or more sex scenes and every other word had to have some reference to the word Fuck or Shit. Nowadays, most of that you can find in PG rated movies.

Times have changed.

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inu-kun:

Sylocat:

inu-kun:
Wonder what a half exposed nipple would have done to this movie's rating?

Instant R rating.

Yeah, because no child has ever seen a nipple, but decapicated heads? every single day!

Sadly, that's how the MPAA thinks.

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-Zen-:

EOT:
I guess you have never read the books then? If you had you would have known what to expect. PG means Parental Guidance, not Suitable for everyone which is a U rating. I would say 6 is far too young for many PG rated films.

Good point.

4thegreatergood:
Some time later, he took the same kids to the Muppet movie. When Kermit was being flung by the ceiling fan, the younger one started hyperventilating. He was never allowed to take them to a movie again.

I can understand the Raiders of the Lost Ark thing, but the kid freaked out in the Muppet movie? No, that's not the teacher's fault; that's the parents' fault for raising a pansy.

Your terrible Zen.
xD
I had a similar idea.
That is the kind of kid that deserves to be blindfolded for life so he can't go hyperventilating when he gets hit by a calm breeze with a leaf in it.
I personally think it's no one's fault.
Everyone has their opinon, everyone reacts differently than each other. Some kids might have no got scared, some might have.
So really,case closed, the ruling is no one's fault.
Let's all go to a titty bar!
Bring your kids!

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Abedeus:
PG usually is someone 12+.

Funny, I thought that was always films rated 12.

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zhoomout:

Abedeus:
PG usually is someone 12+.

Funny, I thought that was always films rated 12.

Dunno exactly. We don't use PG ratings in Poland. Just a big (well, not too big, but visible) green circle for All Ages, yellow triangles with number from 7 to 15 (Age under parent's watch) and red circles with a triangle inside for Mature Only.

Much easier this way.

For theaters, there is always an information about recommended age and why is it so. Some people just might not know (like myself, living in a country without ESRB or the likes of it) what PG means.

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inu-kun:

Sylocat:

inu-kun:
Wonder what a half exposed nipple would have done to this movie's rating?

Instant R rating.

Yeah, because no child has ever seen a nipple, but decapicated heads? every single day!

Sadly, that's how the MPAA thinks.

Heh, yeah, that's what's horrible about all rating systems. Brief nudity, so little you would have to be a pervert or a maniac to notice? 21+, and banned in Australia!! (*nods* sorry, mates)

Chopping people to pieces or impaling on giant poles (Final Destination ;d) - Meeeeh... maybe 15. Maaaaybe...

I still remember first Matrix, with the brutality, blood and gunfire had only 12+. Or the already mentioned FD that got a yellow triangle with 15 in it.

Gone Gonzo
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dangerousdave_42:
oh and just fyi the rating system is completely voluntary meaning there is no actual law prohibiting you from seeing a particular movie that is R or NC-17 even if you are not 17

that's true, but the theater can make rules about who sees what movie. so depending on the local theater, they can card you for being under 17

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inu-kun:
Wonder what a half exposed nipple would have done to this movie's rating?

Moved it down to G. Babies have more experience with nipples than the average viewer of the Chronicles of Narnia movies.

Gone Gonzo
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Abedeus:

zhoomout:

Abedeus:
PG usually is someone 12+.

Funny, I thought that was always films rated 12.

Dunno exactly. We don't use PG ratings in Poland. Just a big (well, not too big, but visible) green circle for All Ages, yellow triangles with number from 7 to 15 (Age under parent's watch) and red circles with a triangle inside for Mature Only.

Much easier this way.

For theaters, there is always an information about recommended age and why is it so. Some people just might not know (like myself, living in a country without ESRB or the likes of it) what PG means.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499448/ if you look at the certification, it shows the ratings for a lot of countries if you arent familiar with the PG rating

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Knight Templar:
Disney doesn't decide the rating.

thats true you cant blame disney but they should let people know in reveiws if the movie would be scary for a certain age

Gone Gonzo
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Hmm, my initial thoughts were that they'd released a movie where ariel takes simba from behind with a strap-on shaped like a dalmation. I was quickly disappointed, obviously. Next time, OP, do a little research before you go to a film. Just because it's disney doesn't mean it's appropriate for little kids. Take the pirates trilogy, for example. Fairly kiddie by adult standard, but certainly not flicks ya'd take the toddlers to see.

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You, ChristmasChild, are not to blame. Its the F***ed up rating people. Oh, hey, a Disney Film! PG. Decapitation you say? Pishposh, those brats will heal fast. Oh, an ANIME movie next? A man holds another mans hand!? R R R R R R R!

See the problem? All the rating people are heavily bribed rich Victorian Englishmen

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Jumpman:

Bright_Raven:
PG ie PGm 13+. and disney is EVIL! didn't you already know that?

why does caspian have a racist "latino" (?) accent? yeah, we know he is a freedom fighter but does he have to speak like that? and arn't all the people ment to be decended from the first four from "lion witch and the wardrobe"?... wow, i just relised that, they were all related...

the original series was better, the brittish TV version.

Wow. You are either completely unfamiliar with the series or missing several parts of your brain. The accent isnt latino and it is used to help show that caspian and the rest of the telmaurines are not originally from narnia (both the movie and book explains this at the end)

the whole related thing is crap too, in the books it clearly states that while there hadnt been any humans in narnia for hundreds of years before the LWW, there are multiple surrounding coutries with humans, like Archenland and Calormen, where people migrated from after the fall of the white witch.

Dude seriously, Im not asking you to research everything you say in a post, but if your accusing people of racism and incest, you might wanna back up what your saying.

are you actually using "dude, seriously" in a non ironic sence? do people actually talk like that? are you a mutated turtle? the only verson of the story i know is the classic Brittish tv series, and even in that they dont have racist accents. yes, the accents are racist in the last movie, and even seing the trailer i could tell it would be horrendusly violent. but because it was directed at kids fro some reason the OFLC lowered the rating, just like harry potter 3.

Gone Gonzo
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Baby Tea:

basically everything is a rating lower then what it should be, these days.

I'll politely disagree. I'm Australian and therefore have a different set of ratings to you people in the U.S.
Our R rating doesn't fuck around, and people know this and treat it accordingly. The american R rating, on the other hand... Well lets just say the matrix, which got M 15+ recommended (the equivilent of PG13) here, got R in the states..the same rating as fight club. I don't really think to two depict a comparable level of violence/language/themes, do you? If the ratings were consistant then people would have meaning, as it stands now it might as well be randomly assigned.
At any rate is isn't unfair to expect a movie with a PG rating to have mild violence, mild innuendo and/or mild language. Having not seen the film I can't really judge if it's better or worse.

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Apocalypse Tank:
The simplest and only solution:

Get lion king and watch it at home
the Circle of life was the shit.

Truth there brother.

Funny story about under estimating ratings like this. A mate of mine works with an after school care group and during their holidays program last year they went and saw Bridge To Terrabithia. End of story.. cinema packed with crying kids aged 6-10.. My mate still holds it to be one of the worst days of his life.

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That reminds me of this one time a woman brought her little son to see a movie & got the wrong room. & I'm like "excuse me ma'am, is your son old enough to see House on Haunted Hill?"

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Pyronox:
Disney are douchebags.

That is all.

Aladdin, Alice In Wonderland and The Lion King beg to differ.

Once upon a time they made good films with a lot of creative thought - and on one occassion James Earl Jones.

Although I have to agree with that analogy of today's Disney. Lilo & Stitch. Now that was a pointless movie.

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When I grow up, I want to be a bad parent.

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Lion King was a blatant rip-off of Kimba the White Lion.

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