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Infamous Scribbler
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Frank_Sinatra_:
MPAA. Blame them.

Don't blame the MPAA, blame the stupid parents on CARA (Classification and Rating Administration) board members... who are parents. http://www.mpaa.org/FilmRatings.asp

I would say, blame branding and marketing types. Disney is portrayed as a family friendly company with most of it's products being innocent and pure and all that bollocks.

I just went through their Annual Report to try find a mission statement.. they don't have one :S http://corporate.disney.go.com/investors/annual_reports.html

Copy Clerk
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Joined: 22 Dec 2008

Disney is totally getting away with stuff, but the ratings are not what they were 20 or even 10 years ago.

Gone Gonzo
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fix-the-spade:
Well it is your fault and it isn't.

The PG rating has been steadily slipping in it's standards. The Fellowship of the Ring is PG and I hope you would never take a 6 year old to see that. It seems as long as you don't show major organs or sex scenes you can get away with just about anything violence wise and still avoid a 12+ rating.

With little kids you should always watch the film first. Even U rated films seem to have nightmare inducers in them now.

Our family (being fans of Tolkien) watched Fellowship together. About an hour in, my mom and sister both became grossed out and left.

Tron was PG. Fellowship was PG. Um... Shouldn't movies that have the same ratings contain about the same type or amount of questionable content?

Ratings have always been messed up. Perry Mason is a great show, but it features smoking, drinking and implied intimate relationships absolutely everywhere, not to mention the high mortality rate that dirtbags have on that show. Despite all this (and the mature nature of the show in general) it's been rated "G," or whatever equivalent exists wherever you happen to be.

The Cromartie High School manga (I think) has been rated "Older Teens," despite the fact that the only objectionable content is random people getting hit and a few swear words, as well as some mature themes (like the humor based around meeting people you've known in the past while checking out adult material at a rental place, or having a member of your family discover and organize your cache of adult books/magazines.)

Personally, I consider this content much less objectionable than a lot of other "Older Teens" mangas. Even the "all ages" DBZ manga has decapitations and dismemberment.

Pulitzer Laureate
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well It happened, just be sure to research more, it may be Disneys, may be the Ratings boards, or it may be yours, dont lay blame, learn and try not to Repeat History

Gone Gonzo
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Deschamps:
I sometimes find that my local theater posts ratings below what they actually are. I'd say it's to make more money by letting more people see it, but I've been asked repeatedly how old I am when I'm going to see a PG movie. I'm sixteen. Sure, I'm small, and I could probably pass for 13, but the movie was PG!

I got how old i was when i went to see MAx Payne. Sure im only 16 but im constants told im 17. And i was wearing my motorbiking jacket...

Then it turns out we get discounts if we're 15 doh!

Beat Writer
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they dont make the villains like they used to. and the rating system cannot be really trusted.

Gone Gonzo
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Puppeteer Putin:

Frank_Sinatra_:
MPAA. Blame them.

Don't blame the MPAA, blame the stupid parents on CARA (Classification and Rating Administration) board members... who are parents. http://www.mpaa.org/FilmRatings.asp

I would say, blame branding and marketing types. Disney is portrayed as a family friendly company with most of it's products being innocent and pure and all that bollocks.

I just went through their Annual Report to try find a mission statement.. they don't have one :S http://corporate.disney.go.com/investors/annual_reports.html

Yeah while I was at work I thought "Oh shit, i put the wrong group down."

Muckraker
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Bright_Raven:

Jumpman:

Bright_Raven:
PG ie PGm 13+. and disney is EVIL! didn't you already know that?

why does caspian have a racist "latino" (?) accent? yeah, we know he is a freedom fighter but does he have to speak like that? and arn't all the people ment to be decended from the first four from "lion witch and the wardrobe"?... wow, i just relised that, they were all related...

the original series was better, the brittish TV version.

Wow. You are either completely unfamiliar with the series or missing several parts of your brain. The accent isnt latino and it is used to help show that caspian and the rest of the telmaurines are not originally from narnia (both the movie and book explains this at the end)

the whole related thing is crap too, in the books it clearly states that while there hadnt been any humans in narnia for hundreds of years before the LWW, there are multiple surrounding coutries with humans, like Archenland and Calormen, where people migrated from after the fall of the white witch.

Dude seriously, Im not asking you to research everything you say in a post, but if your accusing people of racism and incest, you might wanna back up what your saying.

are you actually using "dude, seriously" in a non ironic sence? do people actually talk like that? are you a mutated turtle? the only verson of the story i know is the classic Brittish tv series, and even in that they dont have racist accents. yes, the accents are racist in the last movie, and even seing the trailer i could tell it would be horrendusly violent. but because it was directed at kids fro some reason the OFLC lowered the rating, just like harry potter 3.

Just for the record, I am not in fact, a turtle. not that there's anything wrong with that...(obscure seinfeld reference here folks)

Paperboy
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I have no intentions of seeing the movie, but I would say from experiance that most PG rated disney films are okay, this one might have been an exception though.

Gone Gonzo
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Fox1789:

Knight Templar:
Disney doesn't decide the rating.

thats true you cant blame disney but they should let people know in reveiws if the movie would be scary for a certain age

They shouldn't make the reviews.

Gone Gonzo
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I think there just needs to be something between PG and PG-13. Not a little kid movie, but not bad enough to be PG-13.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Are you to blame? Not as such, but... Disney has gone too far? srsly... with Prince Caspian? No, that's idiotic.

As for the movie rating "A cheesy sword fight can get you a PG rating", that's naive, the Movie ratings system is based on very clearly defined standards. And, honestly, how hard would it be to read a couple reviews or even ask someone else who has seen the movie about the content.

In that you are to blame, but then I would say Mom is just as culpable, for approving the movie of choice or trusting you with the decision.

Pulitzer Laureate
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I knew the film was gonna be grittier then the first (from reading the books). But I was surprised how much I enjoyed it. The violence redeemed it for me. Then I'd been dragged there by my sister and her friend.

Muckraker
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Baby Tea:
Yeah, I would say it's your bad.
I thought everyone knew the the rating system has just been getting more and more lacadazical with it's ratings. PG-13 used to mean a bit of violence and some casual curse words. Now it's fairly strong language, violence, nudity...basically everything is a rating lower then what it should be, these days.

You may be right but I don't think it's about "these days" "Jaws" was only PG in the 70's and I think we can all agree no 6 year old should watch that.

Copy Clerk
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I loved Prince Caspian. Great movie. My young cousins have seen it and loved it. (Youngest is 8.) Of course, all of us had read the books first, so that might make a difference.

However, to show you how subjective ratings are, take a look at Sev Trek: Pus in Boots. John Cook, an Australian comic artist, created the Sev Trek parody of Star Trek. In its heyday of popularity, it spawned a movie from collaboration of him and his fans. It was set on the USS Enterforaprize D with Captain Pinchard, and it had numerous fight scenes, people being vaporized, people melting, limbs being severed, at least one guy getting chopped in half by a closing door, with copious amounts of blood pooling around his torso.

The rating? G.

"Oh, it's a cartoon, so it must be OK for kids." must have been their thought.

John said he even DELIBERATELY put some of that stuff in just to GET the PG rating and STILL didn't get it.

Copy Clerk
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I work at a movie theater...

Yes there isn't a law specifically prohibiting anyone into a movie due to age, but there is an agreement among movie theaters to not allow people under the age of 17 into R rated movies and things like that.

I had to refuse people trying to sneak into Pineapple Express. >_>
Buckets of fun *rolls eyes*

But when you get 13 year olds trying to see a movie about pot...

Gone Gonzo
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You took a 6yo to a PG prince caspian...a 6yo...to a pg film. You do realise that means parental guidance? That means you should have checked BEFORE going. Disney arn't at fault here. They said its upto you, left it as your responsibility.

Personally i think this just goes to show how little responsibility people are willing to accept when it comes to policing/moderating what their kids do/see. Plus its Narnia...the books weren't exactly 6yo friendly. Why should the movie be?

On a slightly different note: How exactly can an accent be racist? It's kind of needed to portray the character species properly. They seem to be based on conquistadors (i dont remember clearly who they were descended from) but the whole spanish armour outfit seems to demand that accent.

Muckraker
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I actually find ratings too strict these days.

Gone Gonzo
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Sylocat:

inu-kun:
Wonder what a half exposed nipple would have done to this movie's rating?

Instant R rating.

are you kidding? the movie would blur it AND take the movie straight to dvd for "sexual themes"

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